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Political activism on other forums

QinguQingu Registered User regular
edited September 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
So the vast majority of us support Obama. Many of us also spend shitloads of time posting on this forum.

A number of us, including me, are also posting on other forums that are more conservative-minded than this, with the explicit purpose to defend or promote Democrats there. For example, I post on a Christian Guitar forum; I know Loren posts on Xwalk.

I'd like this thread to be a place for us to share resources and to help each other do just that. What other forums do you post on, and what techniques do you use? Have you identified other forums that don't have liberal representatives on them?

I don't have anything grand or high-minded in mind (I know the internet is SERIOUS BUSINESS). I'm not saying we should be aggressive or start a "forum war" or any shit like that. I just think there's a lot of people in other forums who are missing the same kind of information that we have here, or have misinformation.

I think this thread could do without extended criticism of the idea: if you don't want to do it, I'm not going to try to convince you.

Is anyone else interested in doing this?

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    ThetherooThetheroo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Wouldn't this qualify as a forum raid, which is against the rules?

    Edit- Actually, rereading it it doesn't seem exactly like that. Maybe ask a mod for permission?

    Edit 2- You know what, just ignore everything I say.

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    Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Your idea seems a little elitist. Others have differing opinions, and those that can be swayed usually have enough "sense" to have done so already. I hope that's not too extended of a critique. :P

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    QinguQingu Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Your idea seems a little elitist. Others have differing opinions, and those that can be swayed usually have enough "sense" to have done so already. I hope that's not too extended of a critique. :P
    I will freely admit to being elitist.

    But the fact is, there are some perfectly intelligent, perfectly open-minded people out there who simply do not have access to the kind of information we have on here. They may simply not be interested in politics, or if they are, they may only post in a conservative echo-chamber. On my second forum, there are a lot of people who simply have the wrong information about Obama: a lot of people think he will raise their taxes, for example.

    I'm not talking about wishy-washy ideological stuff; I'm talking about spreading true information about Obama to people who may not have the ability or motivation to acquire it for themselves.
    And before you say it, I know I sound like a religious person, and yes, it freaks me out too. Shit, I was just lying in bed trying to go to sleep, just heard that Ron Paul might run as a third-party, and actually started praying to the fucking Universe to make it happen. I caught myself, but then I got up and prayed to my cat, mightiest of all beasts. And I meant it.[i

    Let that be an illustration of how important I think this election is.

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    darklite_xdarklite_x I'm not an r-tard... Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Is there a particular reason you feel it's necessary to start forcing your political opinion onto forums that seemingly have nothing to do with politics? Granted there's nothing stopping people from not reading provided you're making new posts stating clearly what you're about, but even as you admitted, this reeks of self-righteousness wrapped up in a "noble cause". No one likes Mormons and no one is going to like this.

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    QinguQingu Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    darklite_x wrote: »
    Is there a particular reason you feel it's necessary to start forcing your political opinion onto forums that seemingly have nothing to do with politics? Granted there's nothing stopping people from not reading provided you're making new posts stating clearly what you're about, but even as you admitted, this reeks of self-righteousness wrapped up in a "noble cause". No one likes Mormons and no one is going to like this.
    You could be right. But maybe one person on another forum will learn something and it will lead to them making a better or more honest voting decision.

    I mean, most people fucking hate soliciters who ring their doorbell and bother them, and yet Obama's campaign (and many others) have made GOTV canvassing a centerpiece of their strategy. I don't really see how this is any different.

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    Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Qingu wrote: »
    darklite_x wrote: »
    Is there a particular reason you feel it's necessary to start forcing your political opinion onto forums that seemingly have nothing to do with politics? Granted there's nothing stopping people from not reading provided you're making new posts stating clearly what you're about, but even as you admitted, this reeks of self-righteousness wrapped up in a "noble cause". No one likes Mormons and no one is going to like this.
    You could be right. But maybe one person on another forum will learn something and it will lead to them making a better or more honest voting decision.

    I mean, most people fucking hate soliciters who ring their doorbell and bother them, and yet Obama's campaign (and many others) have made GOTV canvassing a centerpiece of their strategy. I don't really see how this is any different.

    Wait, I had assumed you meant only on political or semi-political forums where this kind of thing is expected.

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    QinguQingu Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Qingu wrote: »
    darklite_x wrote: »
    Is there a particular reason you feel it's necessary to start forcing your political opinion onto forums that seemingly have nothing to do with politics? Granted there's nothing stopping people from not reading provided you're making new posts stating clearly what you're about, but even as you admitted, this reeks of self-righteousness wrapped up in a "noble cause". No one likes Mormons and no one is going to like this.
    You could be right. But maybe one person on another forum will learn something and it will lead to them making a better or more honest voting decision.

    I mean, most people fucking hate soliciters who ring their doorbell and bother them, and yet Obama's campaign (and many others) have made GOTV canvassing a centerpiece of their strategy. I don't really see how this is any different.

    Wait, I had assumed you meant only on political or semi-political forums where this kind of thing is expected.
    Yeah, pretty much. Or large, general subculture forums (like PA) with political sub-sections.

    I don't mean trolling random forums or going to forums that are not "open to outsiders"

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    RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'm interested, I'm just wondering what sort of forums you're talking about Qingu. I actually want to do my part to help the Obama campaign, but unfortunately my job explicity states that I can't do things like working a phone bank or things like that, so this would probably be my only source of activism.
    If you could just point me to some politically conservative forums, and perhaps have the OP be a repository of rebutting articles to commonly held misbeliefs about Obama.

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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Any truly conservative forum will probably ultimately dismiss you as a troll, or just not pay you any attention. The effort required to swim upstream against an entire forum is pretty overwhelming (watch what happens when one of our token republicans posts in the AmPol thread.)

    Nonpolitical forums will probably treat you pretty much the same way, but they'll be nicer about it. Unfortunately there don't seem to be all that many multipartisan forums on the internet; they seem to get dominated pretty quickly by one side or the other. And the ones that are out there are about the stupid shit that crosses party lines: 9/11 conspiracy et al.

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited September 2008
    Believe it or not there are people who know about him, know about his policies, and don't believe he's a Muslim/the anti-Christ... and who still don't like him. Not everyone agrees with his policies, even those who understand them.

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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Organichu wrote: »
    Believe it or not there are people who know about him, know about his policies, and don't believe he's a Muslim/the anti-Christ... and who still don't like him. Not everyone agrees with his policies, even those who understand them.

    I'd have to imagine those would be the single-issue voters, either the "top-income no-more-taxes" folk, the "no infanticide by abortionists" fuckwits, or the "take mah gun from my cold dead hands" folk.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Qingu, I think you have absurd ideas about the clout and potency forum-goers actually have, either in general or in total.

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited September 2008
    Organichu wrote: »
    Believe it or not there are people who know about him, know about his policies, and don't believe he's a Muslim/the anti-Christ... and who still don't like him. Not everyone agrees with his policies, even those who understand them.

    I'd have to imagine those would be the single-issue voters, either the "top-income no-more-taxes" folk, the "no infanticide by abortionists" fuckwits, or the "take mah gun from my cold dead hands" folk.

    Not all of them. There really are people out there who just disagree on these issues. :winky:

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    PicardathonPicardathon Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Organichu wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    Believe it or not there are people who know about him, know about his policies, and don't believe he's a Muslim/the anti-Christ... and who still don't like him. Not everyone agrees with his policies, even those who understand them.

    I'd have to imagine those would be the single-issue voters, either the "top-income no-more-taxes" folk, the "no infanticide by abortionists" fuckwits, or the "take mah gun from my cold dead hands" folk.

    Not all of them. There really are people out there who just disagree on these issues. :winky:

    Or maybe they actually think that McCain's experience wins out.

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited September 2008
    I'm not sure if you guys are just messing with me or what but you do all know that some people really think Obama's policies are, as an aggregate, bad, right?

    I feel like maybe since I'm a D&D newbie I'm being hazed here, because I don't think you guys are being serious. Sure, a lot of people on the right are scare mongers and believe dumb shit they hear about Obama and vote on stupid minutia, et cetera. But there are plenty of people who sit down, think about it, and say "I don't agree with Obama's platform, I think those are the wrong stances for this country".

    Like, that happens.

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    projectmayhemprojectmayhem Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    This is a stupid fucking idea.


    'Here is why you should vote like I do!'

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited September 2008
    What? No. God no.


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