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And just to clarify, yes I'm a girl. Now, I've been dating this guy for a while, things have been going.. mostly okay, he's nice enough, and has a motorcycle which is hot. However, kissing him has just been.. meh. He's also not geeky enough for me . AND, during this last week, discovered he's really bad at the happy fun intimate time. *cough* I've not been in that many relationships (well, as far as actually dating somebody), but I have a pretty good idea of what I want. How can I best break it to him?
He's not geeky enough
He doesn't have similar enough interests in another aspect to me
He's not a dominant enough person (I'm... much more of the other persuasion, so I prefer a Type A, of sorts)
He's bad at all the intimate touchy stuff.
The two last things, his dominance and his intimacy issues, have you talked to him about them? Tell him what you want him to do when you're fooling around, usually a little guidance goes a long way.
As for the first two, if you really want this to work, you don't have to be the same person in order to be in love. Do stuff he likes one weekend, do stuff you like the next. It's not always 'opposites attract' because you have to have some stuff in common, but asking him to be like you 100% is never going to work. You need to be your own persons, and you have to be willing to mesh into the other's world enough to do things that they like to do.
Well, yeah.. but first and formost, almost everything I do is geeky. I was a drama geek, a music geek, I've been playing D&D for like ten years.. as well as many other tabletop things.. when I save up large chunks of money, it's for geeky things. My computer was my most recent purchase, for example. He.. plays guildwars. That's about all he does that's geeky. He's never been into any nerdy card games, tabletop, video/console/pc games.. I know that seems like a stupid complaint, but..
As to the other two, yeah.. I can talk to him, and have some, but it's not.. been very productive. He flat out refuses to do some things. Which I'm not going to mention, as they're somewhat personal.
with all that bad stuff why are you dating him besides the fact he has a motorcycle.... there are lots of dudes with motorcycles.
As for not being geeky enough there is not much you can do about that other than maybe introduce him to geeky stuff. As a guy I have a really hard time finding girls that are geeky enough. It is an eternal struggle to train new girl friends how to play settlers of catan and warhammer with me. Im sure most of them just play along to humor me but if you don't put in the effort to try and teach them geeky stuff you can't expect them to pick it up on their own.
Not having similar interests is not a huge problem but maybe you could take some interests in what he likes. Its a two way street. Plus find new things that you both like and learn them together.
Young guys for the most part are nervous as hell in bed and not very good at being dominate. I remember the first time a girl wanted me to do that and i was like WTF. You can't expect him to be all holding you down pulling your hair and slapping your ass the first time you get in bed together. Have you asked him to do those types of things? Have you told him anything at all? or just lay there unhappy.
You have to make your own happiness in the sack. If a girl is giving me a crappy hand job im not going to sit there and pretend i enjoy it im going to show her how i like it and get her to do it the right way. Girls should do the same thing. Don't be super bossy about it. You need to be delicate. Baby steps here or you will smash his ego and make things worse.
You want him to be confident and dominate tell him that and then SHOW him how you like things done. Don't just blame him for not knowing the specifics of your sexual desires. If you have already told him this and he still sucks well you can lead a horse to water you can't make it grab a whip and bone you.
He's bad at sex, you don't enjoy hanging out without him that much, and your personalities don't mesh. It sounds like you want to break up with him. There is no point in dating someone that you don't want to date to spare their feelings or whatever. Not fair to you and not fair to him.
So, end it. Be classy and kind about it if you can, just make it clear that you don't want to date anymore. You're young (I think) and
things have been going.. mostly okay, he's nice enough
is damning to me. Nice enough? Go for someone that you like a whole bunch.
As to the other two, yeah.. I can talk to him, and have some, but it's not.. been very productive. He flat out refuses to do some things. Which I'm not going to mention, as they're somewhat personal.
Okay, I might be jumping the gun here, but if I take your thing about him not being dominant enough, along with this line, I would suggest you end the thing now.
Because, if what you talked to him about is important in your life(as it is for a lot of people), then if he refuses to do it, it just will lead to unhappiness. I known someone in a very similar situation, and the longer you're with him, the more you'll resent him and look for that "extra" elsewhere.
I feel you. I've tried dating non-geeky guys and it really just doesn't work. It doesn't even really matter what they're geeky about, just as long as they have that passion for something. My boyfriend now is a major music geek, which I find very sexy, and I'm slowly introducing him to gaming. (Right now, he's cheerfully keeping me informed as to the state of his Pokemon... awww!)
You sound like you're bored by him. The sex isn't great, you find him sorta bland, you don't enjoy talking to him: out the door he goes. Be kind but firm, and make it very, very clear that you don't want to date anymore. "I don't feel like this is working out, so I don't think we should see each other anymore" is generally a good thing to say. Give him whatever stuff you have of his back and then cut off contact; it'll hasten his getting over you.
And just to clarify, yes I'm a girl. Now, I've been dating this guy for a while, things have been going.. mostly okay, he's nice enough, and has a motorcycle which is hot. However, kissing him has just been.. meh. He's also not geeky enough for me . AND, during this last week, discovered he's really bad at the happy fun intimate time. *cough* I've not been in that many relationships (well, as far as actually dating somebody), but I have a pretty good idea of what I want. How can I best break it to him?
He's not geeky enough
He doesn't have similar enough interests in another aspect to me
He's not a dominant enough person (I'm... much more of the other persuasion, so I prefer a Type A, of sorts)
He's bad at all the intimate touchy stuff.
*face palm*
Be honest with him. Sit him down over dinner and talk it out! How are you benefitting yourself or your boyfriend by letting things drag on like you are? Sounds like you are wanting something out of the relationship that he is not willing or able to give? Time to let him go and move on. Then again you know this, something tells me that you do. By the way *cough* I will be home in less than a month. Sound good? LOL
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Making the world taste better one can at a time. :winky:
For the love of all thats holy - do not be unclear. Here's how it happens. You dont want to hurt them, so you say something like, "I need some time" or "maybe in the future..." You do this to ease the pain - but you will create false hope. Dont string him along.
Alternatively, you could realise that its OK to have different interests. But to be fair - its sounds like your looking to justify the break.
It's spelled "capitol" hill. Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine, as a fellow Seattle resident.
You and me both, brotha. Also "Coleman Dock," "Pike's Place Market" and "Freemont."
So as for this guy, MeeOk...
On the plus side, he's got a motorbike
On the negative side, you two have very little in common
So yeah, I'd suggest splitting. I mean, if you're both 38 then perhaps it might be a viable option to try and work things out, but this sounds like some early 20's blues. You are likely adverse to the idea, at least at this point since it's only been a couple of months, and you don't want to hurt his feelings.
You are going to hurt his feelings, regardless. Trying to spare them doesn't benefit either of you at all, since if he likes you in any way he'll take that bit of easy let-down information and consider it to be accurate, twisting it around until he thinks you'll take him back. And then he pines, and then you get odd phone calls, and nobody wins.
Tell it to him straight, or don't tell it to him at all. You could try and mold him into an ideal lover, but remember that although you can suggest change to someone, they won't change significantly unless they themselves want to. And at this point, that probably ain't happening.
There's enough different that you straight up cannot change (you can't force someone to be a nerd, and someone who doesn't like playing alpha/dominant isn't going to want to do it regularly for your amusement... and if he isn't willing to communicate, he won't be a good dom anyway)
It's not worth it. Believe me, there are dominant nerdy guys out there. Most of the guys I've dated are like that oddly enough (though good for me, bwaha)... plenty of fish in the sea m'dear
The guy is human, other girls will complain saying: He is geeky, he dominates, and also performs like a porn star, but he is geeky, I prefer a motorcylce tattoed type guy.
Maybe if you tell him of your fantasies and let him know you would like him to be like the man of your dreams, he will start training himself.
Fantasma on
Hear my warnings, unbelievers. We have raised altars in this land so that we may sacrifice you to our gods. There is no hope in opposing the inevitable. Put down your arms, unbelievers, and bow before the forces of Chaos!
If the first 4 months aren't happy-great-sex-having-enjoy-every-moment-sicken-your friends you have no future. "You're not really what I was looking for, it's been nice, see ya" then grab your toothbrush and start making plans without him
Horseraddish on
If you're gonna punch someone in the face, aim for the back of the head.
Dump him. The guy isn't what you want and if life has taught me one thing its that mostly people don't change. You can talk to him if you like about what you want and even if he does put a token effort into changing for some time he'll inevitably slip back into the kind of person that he really is. Also you can't really make someone a geek, you either are or you aren't its not a matter of concious choice. Long story short you've only been going out two months, this guy isnt what you're looking for and most likely never will be also he's crap in bed. Seems like a no brainer to me.
Yeah, there's maybe one geek girl for every five geek guys out there, and I'm pretty sure one or two of them own motorcycles. Your chances are pretty damn good.
Sure, you could try to work with him on improving happy fun intimate time, since sometimes guys simply don't know how to do things effectively, and even reasonably talented people can have off days. But it sounds like your heart isn't in it. Sounds like you'd be better off pursuing one of the thousands of geek guys available to you.
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As for the first two, if you really want this to work, you don't have to be the same person in order to be in love. Do stuff he likes one weekend, do stuff you like the next. It's not always 'opposites attract' because you have to have some stuff in common, but asking him to be like you 100% is never going to work. You need to be your own persons, and you have to be willing to mesh into the other's world enough to do things that they like to do.
As to the other two, yeah.. I can talk to him, and have some, but it's not.. been very productive. He flat out refuses to do some things. Which I'm not going to mention, as they're somewhat personal.
As for not being geeky enough there is not much you can do about that other than maybe introduce him to geeky stuff. As a guy I have a really hard time finding girls that are geeky enough. It is an eternal struggle to train new girl friends how to play settlers of catan and warhammer with me. Im sure most of them just play along to humor me but if you don't put in the effort to try and teach them geeky stuff you can't expect them to pick it up on their own.
Not having similar interests is not a huge problem but maybe you could take some interests in what he likes. Its a two way street. Plus find new things that you both like and learn them together.
Young guys for the most part are nervous as hell in bed and not very good at being dominate. I remember the first time a girl wanted me to do that and i was like WTF. You can't expect him to be all holding you down pulling your hair and slapping your ass the first time you get in bed together. Have you asked him to do those types of things? Have you told him anything at all? or just lay there unhappy.
You have to make your own happiness in the sack. If a girl is giving me a crappy hand job im not going to sit there and pretend i enjoy it im going to show her how i like it and get her to do it the right way. Girls should do the same thing. Don't be super bossy about it. You need to be delicate. Baby steps here or you will smash his ego and make things worse.
You want him to be confident and dominate tell him that and then SHOW him how you like things done. Don't just blame him for not knowing the specifics of your sexual desires. If you have already told him this and he still sucks well you can lead a horse to water you can't make it grab a whip and bone you.
So, end it. Be classy and kind about it if you can, just make it clear that you don't want to date anymore. You're young (I think) and
is damning to me. Nice enough? Go for someone that you like a whole bunch.
Okay, I might be jumping the gun here, but if I take your thing about him not being dominant enough, along with this line, I would suggest you end the thing now.
Because, if what you talked to him about is important in your life(as it is for a lot of people), then if he refuses to do it, it just will lead to unhappiness. I known someone in a very similar situation, and the longer you're with him, the more you'll resent him and look for that "extra" elsewhere.
You sound like you're bored by him. The sex isn't great, you find him sorta bland, you don't enjoy talking to him: out the door he goes. Be kind but firm, and make it very, very clear that you don't want to date anymore. "I don't feel like this is working out, so I don't think we should see each other anymore" is generally a good thing to say. Give him whatever stuff you have of his back and then cut off contact; it'll hasten his getting over you.
Be honest with him. Sit him down over dinner and talk it out! How are you benefitting yourself or your boyfriend by letting things drag on like you are? Sounds like you are wanting something out of the relationship that he is not willing or able to give? Time to let him go and move on. Then again you know this, something tells me that you do. By the way *cough* I will be home in less than a month. Sound good? LOL
For the love of all thats holy - do not be unclear. Here's how it happens. You dont want to hurt them, so you say something like, "I need some time" or "maybe in the future..." You do this to ease the pain - but you will create false hope. Dont string him along.
Alternatively, you could realise that its OK to have different interests. But to be fair - its sounds like your looking to justify the break.
So as for this guy, MeeOk...
On the plus side, he's got a motorbike
On the negative side, you two have very little in common
So yeah, I'd suggest splitting. I mean, if you're both 38 then perhaps it might be a viable option to try and work things out, but this sounds like some early 20's blues. You are likely adverse to the idea, at least at this point since it's only been a couple of months, and you don't want to hurt his feelings.
You are going to hurt his feelings, regardless. Trying to spare them doesn't benefit either of you at all, since if he likes you in any way he'll take that bit of easy let-down information and consider it to be accurate, twisting it around until he thinks you'll take him back. And then he pines, and then you get odd phone calls, and nobody wins.
Tell it to him straight, or don't tell it to him at all. You could try and mold him into an ideal lover, but remember that although you can suggest change to someone, they won't change significantly unless they themselves want to. And at this point, that probably ain't happening.
There's enough different that you straight up cannot change (you can't force someone to be a nerd, and someone who doesn't like playing alpha/dominant isn't going to want to do it regularly for your amusement... and if he isn't willing to communicate, he won't be a good dom anyway)
It's not worth it. Believe me, there are dominant nerdy guys out there. Most of the guys I've dated are like that oddly enough (though good for me, bwaha)... plenty of fish in the sea m'dear
Maybe if you tell him of your fantasies and let him know you would like him to be like the man of your dreams, he will start training himself.
Don't settle if you're aware you're settling. That stuff pretty much never works out.
Sure, you could try to work with him on improving happy fun intimate time, since sometimes guys simply don't know how to do things effectively, and even reasonably talented people can have off days. But it sounds like your heart isn't in it. Sounds like you'd be better off pursuing one of the thousands of geek guys available to you.
Move along.