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Planetside's Successor being Developed in CHINA! -- Welkin 4591

BamelinBamelin Registered User regular
OMGOMG Planetside 2! Sort of ... read on dear friends read on!

By Tim 'CR5' Edwards - From Issue 192, October 2008 PC Gamer UK. (Section: This Is... Oddball, Page 17)

Planetside was one of my favourite games. It offered a weird glimpse of the future: a perpetual war for territory fought in first-person, on a distant network of planets. The hours I spent in that game hold fierce memories: driving forces to the front line, manning battlements, dropping fighters out of the sky in my anti-air MAX suit. Planetside still exists, but it's pointless playing it now: the continents are empty and major battles are rare. I long for it to regain momentum, or for another MMO developer to take up the challenges and opportunities developer SOE squandered. Then I heard about Welkin 4591.

China Calling
Chinese developers Outpop Digital have licensed the Planetside technology, and are rebuilding the game. They're running a very early beta test in China and enterprising gamers from the UK and US are getting involved. Their efforts are almost comically passionate. The website for Welkin is entirely in Chinese. To get in, you need to answer a multiple choice questionnaire. Once in, you're granted a glimpse at the potential, such as titans flying over bases and satellites manoeuvring into position over the battlefield... Oh, the potential. There's a happy ending to this. Outpop, touched by the support, have already begun outreach efforts to the first English-speaking pioneers and are providing them with CD keys and beta access. See Welkin in action at azuretwilight.org/index.php?welkin.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k492V46u_j0

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU-pYOOXek0


I spent about 2 years playing Planetside. The game brought alot of joy to me when it first hit ... finally somebody attempted to do something different from typical cookie cutter MMORPG's.

Fast forward to 2008 and I get an email from an old Planetside clan called KAAOS ... they are getting ready to start up in Warhammer. While browsing their forums I stumbled on a link to Azure Twilight's Forums --- which has become the defacto place to go for information about Welkin 4591 billed by many as "Planetside 2" in everything but name.

Apparently Welkin 4591 is being developed in China however the developers are now aware of the fairly large surge of interest from the western market. There have been murmerings of a possible English server.

Watching the video above, any Planetside vet should recognize elements of the Planetside game engine. For more information check out: http://azuretwilight.org/index.php?welkin

Anyways, for all you Planetside vets out there I thought you might be interested in this. I know I was. The game has gone through a first beta already and will soon be launching into a second beta phase.

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    FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Odd. The only outfit I ever joined was Azure Twilight. Surprised anything from that long ago still exists.

    Video looks like PS with a Tribes skin.

    Anyway I doubt I'd be interested in a PS reskin at this point. Going back and playing it moderately recently it's hard to deal with the CSHD issues that arise when you're years beyond the concept being novel. If Sony had done this and just made some new fucking base layouts a few years ago PS might have stayed interesting.

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    JarofmoldymayoJarofmoldymayo __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    OH my.


    This sounds absolutely FANTASTIC.

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    BamelinBamelin Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Graphically, Planetside is not much to look at anymore however, it still has some of the most largest battles I've seen in an FPS.

    I was into the game pretty hardcore, it also offered some of the best team coordination I'd seen in an MMO. There still isn't anything like it out there in the MMO field although I'd been hoping Huxley and the Agency fill this gap. This Welkin game though looks to be a dream come true. Everything I wanted Planetside to be.

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    TokledTokled Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    This would blow my mind if it achieves the scale planetside had in its short lived prime.

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    ThetherooThetheroo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I read this as "Planescape" first.

    Now I am sad.

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    JarofmoldymayoJarofmoldymayo __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    100 guys fighting for each island was a sight to behold.

    So was holding a base with a full squad of lasher infantry.




    INCOMING GALAXY! EAST!

    And I'd be damned if every gun in the base wasn't pointed at the ting.

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    wakkawawakkawa Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    An mmofps done right would be amazing. Tighten up the ground combat, diversify the maps and you are basically set.

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    VoranthVoranth MI NOMBRE, POR CIERTO ES DONTÉ!Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Planetside definitely holds some of my most memorable gaming moments ever. There's nothing quite like a column of tanks rolling through the foggy Hossin swamps, shelling the Terran base over the hill as the night sky is lit with the tracers and explosions of dogfighting aircraft, covering the massive dropships laden with infantry and exosuits, their twitchy trigger-fingers awaiting their squad leaders order. Without hesitation they leap into the sky and dive through flak and missile fire right into the heart of the enemy installation.

    If done right, this game will kick ass.

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    CyrixdCyrixd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Planetside... without Sony?!

    Oh my god.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Cyrixd wrote: »
    Planetside... without Sony?!

    Oh my god.

    But Chinese.

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    Waka LakaWaka Laka Riding the stuffed Unicorn If ya know what I mean.Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Cyrixd wrote: »
    Oh my god

    x2

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    hazywaterhazywater Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    i loved planetside. i look forward to seeing where this goes.

    tank columns
    bomber formations
    intense indoor/outdoor firefights
    so awesome

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    DixonDixon Screwed...possibly doomed CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    yyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy

    I'm happy now, I don't think I've ever had as much fun as I have in Planetside

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    TokledTokled Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Couscous wrote: »
    Cyrixd wrote: »
    Planetside... without Sony?!

    Oh my god.

    But Chinese.

    I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, especially in comparison to SOE.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Tokled wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Cyrixd wrote: »
    Planetside... without Sony?!

    Oh my god.

    But Chinese.

    I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, especially in comparison to SOE.
    I haven't played Planetside, but SOE must have touched you in a really bad way to make the though of a Chinese version see really good.

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    JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    From the videos this looks awful. My main beef with Planetside was that most of my time was spent getting to a fight. Oftentimes there would be battle indicators, and when I finally got there, there were maybe a handful of people? It had its moments, but it definitely had some serious issues. We'll see if this game is any good..

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    BamelinBamelin Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Couscous wrote: »
    Tokled wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Cyrixd wrote: »
    Planetside... without Sony?!

    Oh my god.

    But Chinese.

    I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, especially in comparison to SOE.
    I haven't played Planetside, but SOE must have touched you in a really bad way to make the though of a Chinese version see really good.

    SOE has developed abit of a "reputation".

    So far they have screwed up games that should have done far better through mismanagement, bungling, lack of support, etc, etc

    Games I can think of off hand:

    StarChamber (CCG)
    Stargate Online (CCG)
    Planetside
    Star Wars Galaxy (for fuck's sake how could you screw up STAR WARS?)

    I can't speak for EQ, EQ2 or Vanguard, but in general the Station Forums are a cesspool of complaints regarding lack of marketing, games being "rebalanced" (screwed up beyond recognition), great titles being left to die (StarChamber/StarGate), shitty customer support, shitty support for games that have committed communties desperately trying to get help from devs (Planetside, StarChamber, StarGate, and others), and the list goes on.

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    TokledTokled Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Couscous wrote: »
    Tokled wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Cyrixd wrote: »
    Planetside... without Sony?!

    Oh my god.

    But Chinese.

    I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, especially in comparison to SOE.
    I haven't played Planetside, but SOE must have touched you in a really bad way to make the though of a Chinese version see really good.

    I don't think it would be an exaggeration to say I will never play another Sony MMO again.

    Also, I've never actually played a game developed by a Chinese company, that I'm aware of, so who knows.

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    Dyrwen66Dyrwen66 the other's insane Denver CORegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Hm, reminds me of a Tribes world meeting a Battlefield game, or something. Definitely looks like it has potential, I just hope the graphics improve and ... it supports English users. <.<

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    HarshLanguageHarshLanguage Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I hope they fix the gameplay issues and design decisions that PlanetSide has never addressed. Sure, the game could use a modern engine, but it could also use an overhaul in most other ways too.

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    BamelinBamelin Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I hope they fix the gameplay issues and design decisions that PlanetSide has never addressed. Sure, the game could use a modern engine, but it could also use an overhaul in most other ways too.


    At the very least it sounds like the command rank system will be overhauled. Only 1 CR5 will be able to command a battle sector so no more multiple /contall's.

    I'd read as well that power supply (NTU's) at a current base of operations will be dictated by back line bases and sectors you currently hold. Not really sure how it will work exactly though.

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    Mr RayMr Ray Sarcasm sphereRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Fuck yes. The world needs more MMOFPS games. It needs one that doesn't suck at least.

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    AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yay for microtransactions?

    Well for me anyway. If it's microtanscationed but free-to-play I wouldn't terribly.

    So I guess it's good that I understand chinese?

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    citizen059citizen059 hello my name is citizen I'm from the InternetRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Thanks for the heads-up, definitely have to keep an eye on this.

    To this day, no MMO experience has matched that of Planetside for me. None.

    I had the good fortune of working with a very skilled squad, and that really makes or breaks the game right there.

    They focused on "capture & hold" tactics, either taking a base or dropping a generator. It really depended on the tactical situation. Usually we were taking a base away from the front lines, either to cause a diversion or deny a resource.

    I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I was any good at PS, because I wasn't. Not individually. But working with a highly skilled group that effectively communicated what to do, how to do it, and when to do it...well, that turns any player into a powerhouse.

    Usually we'd drop in with anywhere from 12 to 15 in our group. Obviously anytime you took an unoccupied base, you'd get one or two people scouting the situation to see if it was maybe just a rogue capture. After they got incinerated, you'd get a group of five or ten. Then just more and more until finally you're fighting on a near constant basis to hold the base as long as possible. Awesome stuff, and since the guys running the squad were making the decisions on a tactical basis rather than just "HAY GUYS LETS GET THIS BASE LOL", it usually wound up crippling the opposing force in some way on the front lines.

    It felt like you were making a difference and changing the course of the battle, which isn't something you can say about a lot of MMO's where, yeah...you can do a quest or something but it doesn't change the story arc.

    You can argue that things didn't matter in PS either, since nobody could keep a base forever, but really that was the draw of it. Every day you logged in, the battlefield was different, and it was up to you & your faction to find the right way to dominate it.

    Have I said enough good things about PS yet? :p

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    AbsolutionAbsolution __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    What the hell happened to Huxley?

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited September 2008
    The graphics in those videos look pretty shitty, but a) it's a beta and b) if it captures the feeling from Planetside, I don't care.

    I had tons of fun with PA people back when Planetside did that free year thing.

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    BamelinBamelin Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    From what I understand the video's are showing a very early beta and they were doing weapons testing/balancing.

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    DixonDixon Screwed...possibly doomed CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Echo wrote: »
    The graphics in those videos look pretty shitty, but a) it's a beta and b) if it captures the feeling from Planetside, I don't care.

    I had tons of fun with PA people back when Planetside did that free year thing.

    I would play planetside now even with its shitty graphics if the servers were somewhat populated, here's to hoping this does well

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    TwistedJesterTwistedJester Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I can deal with shitty graphics. However, PlanetSide's infantry combat has not aged well. It was so crappy that it made Battlefield 1942's infantry combat look good.

    Honestly, my ideal sequel to PlanetSide would just take Battlefield 2142 and just expand its scope to match that of PlanetSide.

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    AyulinAyulin Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Dixon wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    The graphics in those videos look pretty shitty, but a) it's a beta and b) if it captures the feeling from Planetside, I don't care.

    I had tons of fun with PA people back when Planetside did that free year thing.

    I would play planetside now even with its shitty graphics if the servers were somewhat populated, here's to hoping this does well

    So much good times in that game. It really relied on having competent leaders and players smart enough to listen, though, but just the sheer epic scale was an experience in itself. Assaulting a base while fighting off both the defenders AND the other faction from getting it at the same time was great; defending against that same situation too.

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    AbraxenAbraxen Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Howdy all,

    I was the person that made the in game videos from Azure Twilight.

    I wanted to address a coupld of things.

    First, my computer isn't amazing, so I wouldn't judge the graphics only by the video. Also keep in mind that the video was of an early closed beta based around weapons testing. Beyond that you really should view the videos in high quality. Keep in mind that youtube isn't keeping the same exact quality of video over the net.

    Second, open beta has final started. I'll be the first to admit that it isn't EASY to get in, but it's not hard. We have a tutorial up in fact that will walk you through it. if you hop over to http://welkin4591.com you should be able to get in game going by our wiki.

    Lastly, I did whip up another video. It's only a teaser just to let everyone know that there is more in game than what was seen during the last video of closed beta.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feFSz8SnGtE

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    KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    The scale of the bases is way too big. Sure, base fights in planetside could get cramped when you had a couple dozen people assaulting the place, but it's going to feel emptier than it really is.

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    One of my favorite Planetside moments was re-specializing so I could fly the big troop transport plane, waited for a ton of people to board it, flew over the a combat-heavy zone, got the plane blown up and killed everybody.

    Then I specialized in something else.

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    AbraxenAbraxen Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Don't quote me on this, but I do believe they are allowing more people per "continent" than PS did. Perhaps a reason for the scale.

    There is more to come. Like I said this is just a teaser. I will say it was encouraging to show up and see people playing. I'm usually busy on Saturday's .

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    BlueDestinyBlueDestiny Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'll take a look at the beta. Is everything in Chinese in-game?

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    FaceballMcDougalFaceballMcDougal Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Those posts gushing over Planetside? Ya I could make a ton of them.

    Some of the best times I've ever had on a computer.

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    LittleBootsLittleBoots Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    So signing up for this. Wish me luck!

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    AbraxenAbraxen Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'll take a look at the beta. Is everything in Chinese in-game?

    Yes. Although we have some people working on English patches. Last time I checked I don't think the wiki really mentions those too much, but it's been a while.

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    LittleBootsLittleBoots Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Yikes! I bit too laggy for me. I would try it again though if they got some servers closer to the states.

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    IriahIriah Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    an MMOFPS with Tribes skiing would be wicked, man

    those maps look about the right size for it, too

    edit: In any case, the pace looks really slow. Those dudes look like they're underwater, which is never fun to play.

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