Something about the culture and all the rules bothers me. I'm not very interested in that sort of thing, but I've thought that if I was, then the standard stuff wouldn't do it for me. Like, if tying people up was my thing, I'd want to actually tie them up completely, not tie them up but they have a safe word to get out if they need or something.
Well, there aren't really any "rules" except: don't kill anybody and don't do anything to anybody that they don't want done to them.
The safeword is just an extension of consensuality. If you tie somebody up, and they change their mind halfway through, and you don't honor that, you're not just breaking the "rules" of BDSM, you're breaking the law and all sorts of nigh-universal moral codes. The safeword is just a system to make sure that fake protest (but still within the realm of consensuality) is easily distinguishable from a withdrawal of consent.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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PasserbyeI am much older than you.in Beach CityRegistered Userregular
This too is a suprise to me, I thought Durandal was the guy with the massive pecs, like shockingly huge. I've probably got you confused with another Durandal? There's at least a couple of you I believe.
Well, massive pecs would be way bigger than a b-cup.
And no, I am a duder. I just have a lovely rack.
Edit: and yeah if I were a lady, I'd be using Leela.
Zimmydoom, Zimmydoom
Flew away in a balloon
Had sex with polar bears
While sitting in a reclining chair
Now there are Zim-Bear hybrids
Running around and clawing eyelids
Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!
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PasserbyeI am much older than you.in Beach CityRegistered Userregular
It's the same reason we write off Mormonism, isn't it? They only carry hints of the crazy now, but their roots are black-hating-Jesus-came-to-America-and-smote-woowoo-Indians-with-red-skin crap. I mean, that their religions are founded on those tenets is inescapable, and they don't even go for the apologetics route about it like real Christians, they've just forgotten that's what their religion says.
The difference, though, is that Buddhism encourages the follower to pick and choose what they want to follow while Christianity does not.
There is nowhere in the Bible where Jesus or God says, "Don't take my word for it!"
Buddhism is a little bit like Reading Rainbow, actually.
Buddhism is definitely better about it, but I don't see what's Buddhist about a belief structure when you've whittled it down to "everybody suffers, let's reduce suffering."
Something about the culture and all the rules bothers me. I'm not very interested in that sort of thing, but I've thought that if I was, then the standard stuff wouldn't do it for me. Like, if tying people up was my thing, I'd want to actually tie them up completely, not tie them up but they have a safe word to get out if they need or something.
Well, there aren't really any "rules" except: don't kill anybody and don't do anything to anybody that they don't want done to them.
The safeword is just an extension of consensuality. If you tie somebody up, and they change their mind halfway through, and you don't honor that, you're not just breaking the "rules" of BDSM, you're breaking the law and all sorts of nigh-universal moral codes. The safeword is just a system to make sure that fake protest (but still within the realm of consensuality) is easily distinguishable from a withdrawal of consent.
Right, I understand that. I just don't understand why someone would want to do that and still have consent involved. I understand that apparently people do, but I just don't get it.
Buddhism is definitely better about it, but I don't see what's Buddhist about a belief structure when you've whittled it down to "everybody suffers, let's reduce suffering."
Well sure because you've whittled things down past Buddhism at that point. You have to have at least the four noble truths for it to be Buddhism.
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Zimmydoom, Zimmydoom
Flew away in a balloon
Had sex with polar bears
While sitting in a reclining chair
Now there are Zim-Bear hybrids
Running around and clawing eyelids
Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!
Buddhism is definitely better about it, but I don't see what's Buddhist about a belief structure when you've whittled it down to "everybody suffers, let's reduce suffering."
Depends on the method by which you reduce suffering.
"Let's reduce suffering by giving people what they want" = not terribly Buddhist.
"Let's reduce suffering by wanting less stuff" = more Buddhist.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
Something about the culture and all the rules bothers me. I'm not very interested in that sort of thing, but I've thought that if I was, then the standard stuff wouldn't do it for me. Like, if tying people up was my thing, I'd want to actually tie them up completely, not tie them up but they have a safe word to get out if they need or something.
Well, there aren't really any "rules" except: don't kill anybody and don't do anything to anybody that they don't want done to them.
The safeword is just an extension of consensuality. If you tie somebody up, and they change their mind halfway through, and you don't honor that, you're not just breaking the "rules" of BDSM, you're breaking the law and all sorts of nigh-universal moral codes. The safeword is just a system to make sure that fake protest (but still within the realm of consensuality) is easily distinguishable from a withdrawal of consent.
Exactly. You can be into BDSM but not to the point that you actually are going to hurt people without them wanting it. Generally it's sexy to be in power with the agreement of the partner, more than not doing it at all.
Right, I understand that. I just don't understand why someone would want to do that and still have consent involved. I understand that apparently people do, but I just don't get it.
Because the physical experience of being tied up is powerful.
Also, some people do engage in no-safeword play after they've been together for a long time and competely trust each other.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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PasserbyeI am much older than you.in Beach CityRegistered Userregular
Right, I understand that. I just don't understand why someone would want to do that and still have consent involved. I understand that apparently people do, but I just don't get it.
Because the physical experience of being tied up is powerful.
Also, some people do engage in no-safeword play after they've been together for a long time and competely trust each other.
As I understand it, that occurs at about the point you can be confident giving blanket consent for another person to do anything they want, while also being sure that they won't do anything you wouldn't want them to.
I wanted to say something about inappropriate use of the word shemale but you actually used it right, so
I got nothin'
See, how is it you can be a word nazi, but I can't make people squirm with awkward humor?
It's just not fair! *sniff*
Hey now, I'm not a word n---
I just stand vanguard over that one particular family of words
though lately I've given up on policing them anywhere beyond D&D
there was a thread the other day where people thought that transvestites were the ones who wanted to change their gender, and drag queens were any kind of crossdresser at all
but I'm getting too old to play the scholarly game
Man I figured the forum Thanatos frequented would be familiar with dudes having boobs. Oh burn I haven't even seen him but I've heard he's a fatty so I'm gonna say it anyways.
Buddhism is definitely better about it, but I don't see what's Buddhist about a belief structure when you've whittled it down to "everybody suffers, let's reduce suffering."
Depends on the method by which you reduce suffering.
"Let's reduce suffering by giving people what they want" = not terribly Buddhist.
"Let's reduce suffering by wanting less stuff" = more Buddhist.
Well, right, but when you get it down to that, I don't see what's specifically Buddhist about it. It could be Buddhist inspired, but beliefs like that are far from unique to Buddhism.
Basically, I see Western Buddhist the way I see modern pagans or Wiccans. Just silly, stupid shit to me. It's my judgmental side showing itself yet again.
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My friend's sister is a fancy hobo and I am so jealous of her.
She always gets job being a ski lift operator or working at a camp or some shit. She just got her MBA in Ireland, and now that she's back she's going to work for Disney Cruises for a few months in the Bahamas.
Also talking of looking akward at the gym, today I saw some massive guy (dude was like a foot shorter then me and easily eighty or so pounds heavier) with the crappiest form I've ever seen doing a squat. I swear I could hear his back crying in anguish, but I didn't point this out because it would've been too damn ridiculous, given his stature and that I'm skinny (albeit toned) as all fuck. I don't think he would have taken me seriously.
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PasserbyeI am much older than you.in Beach CityRegistered Userregular
I wanted to say something about inappropriate use of the word shemale but you actually used it right, so
I got nothin'
See, how is it you can be a word nazi, but I can't make people squirm with awkward humor?
It's just not fair! *sniff*
Hey now, I'm not a word n---
I just stand vanguard over that one particular family of words
though lately I've given up on policing them anywhere beyond D&D
there was a thread the other day where people thought that transvestites were the ones who wanted to change their gender, and drag queens were any kind of crossdresser at all
but I'm getting too old to play the scholarly game
Well, you don't have to worry about me misusing gender/transgender related terms. Like I said, many of my friends are bisexual/homosexual/queer/transgendered/etc., so I'm pretty good at the 'lingo', as it were.
Buddhism is definitely better about it, but I don't see what's Buddhist about a belief structure when you've whittled it down to "everybody suffers, let's reduce suffering."
Depends on the method by which you reduce suffering.
"Let's reduce suffering by giving people what they want" = not terribly Buddhist.
"Let's reduce suffering by wanting less stuff" = more Buddhist.
Well, right, but when you get it down to that, I don't see what's specifically Buddhist about it. It could be Buddhist inspired, but beliefs like that are far from unique to Buddhism.
Basically, I see Western Buddhist the way I see modern pagans or Wiccans. Just silly, stupid shit to me. It's my judgmental side showing itself yet again.
Well, it's a spectrum of Buddhist-ness.
I agree with a lot of tenets of Buddhism but I don't call myself Buddhist because my beliefs aren't Buddhist enough in my opinion to warrant the label.
But if somebody believed in the four noble truths and was following the eightfold path for secular reasons, I think at that point it's perfectly acceptable call them a Buddhist. They are following the -ism taught by Buddha.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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The wiki page for cloaca has a picture of a seagull pooping. Also a hawk’s butt. Classy.
Seeing a penguin poop might have been the funniest thing I've ever experienced. I was at the zoo with my ex and there were a bunch of young children around. One of the penguins just turned around, raised its flippers, stood up on its tip-toes, and blasted all over the glass. Children started either laughing or screaming. It was so great.
Buddhism is definitely better about it, but I don't see what's Buddhist about a belief structure when you've whittled it down to "everybody suffers, let's reduce suffering."
Depends on the method by which you reduce suffering.
"Let's reduce suffering by giving people what they want" = not terribly Buddhist.
"Let's reduce suffering by wanting less stuff" = more Buddhist.
Well, right, but when you get it down to that, I don't see what's specifically Buddhist about it. It could be Buddhist inspired, but beliefs like that are far from unique to Buddhism.
Basically, I see Western Buddhist the way I see modern pagans or Wiccans. Just silly, stupid shit to me. It's my judgmental side showing itself yet again.
Well, it's a spectrum of Buddhist-ness.
I agree with a lot of tenets of Buddhism but I don't call myself Buddhist because my beliefs aren't Buddhist enough in my opinion to warrant the label.
But if somebody believed in the four noble truths and was following the eightfold path for secular reasons, I think at that point it's perfectly acceptable call them a Buddhist. They are following the -ism taught by Buddha.
I would agree with this. Buddhism is not like Western religions in that you do not have to believe in the supernatural to "be buddhist."
A Christian is NOT just someone who follows Christ's examples and thinks he was a pretty smart guy.
A Buddhist CAN BE someone who follows Buddha's examples and thinks he was a pretty smart guy.
Ultimately, W_H, it's another No True Scotsman argument. What makes a person a true Christian or Buddhist? I think the central ideas of Christianity are that Christ was a real person, who died for our sins, and that redemption (in the afterlife) can only come by being Christ-like. I don't think you can call yourself a Christian just by acting like Jesus without accepting the notions of the afterlife and salvation.
However, the core beliefs of Buddhism in my opinion are the four noble truths and the escape from suffering via the eightfold path. If you accept those, you're a True Scotsm--- err, Buddhist.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
The wiki page for cloaca has a picture of a seagull pooping. Also a hawk’s butt. Classy.
Seeing a penguin poop might have been the funniest thing I've ever experienced. I was at the zoo with my ex and there were a bunch of young children around. One of the penguins just turned around, raised its flippers, stood up on its tip-toes, and blasted all over the glass. Children started either laughing or screaming. It was so great.
Hahahaha that is incredible. Penguins are endlessly entertaining.
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But it isn't always, depending how you have your preferences set.
Well, there aren't really any "rules" except: don't kill anybody and don't do anything to anybody that they don't want done to them.
The safeword is just an extension of consensuality. If you tie somebody up, and they change their mind halfway through, and you don't honor that, you're not just breaking the "rules" of BDSM, you're breaking the law and all sorts of nigh-universal moral codes. The safeword is just a system to make sure that fake protest (but still within the realm of consensuality) is easily distinguishable from a withdrawal of consent.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Damn shemales, ruining my fantasies.
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It's a joke about a meme you haven't been exposed to yet.
Gotcha. Thanks for the explanation.
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Buddhism is definitely better about it, but I don't see what's Buddhist about a belief structure when you've whittled it down to "everybody suffers, let's reduce suffering."
well
you are my fucking bitch
But he has BOOBS.
But.. but ducks really do have cloacas....
Biology humor is funny, dammit, meme or no.
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I got nothin'
Right, I understand that. I just don't understand why someone would want to do that and still have consent involved. I understand that apparently people do, but I just don't get it.
Well sure because you've whittled things down past Buddhism at that point. You have to have at least the four noble truths for it to be Buddhism.
I'm the one who claimed to be a duck.
You're bad at this.
Depends on the method by which you reduce suffering.
"Let's reduce suffering by giving people what they want" = not terribly Buddhist.
"Let's reduce suffering by wanting less stuff" = more Buddhist.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Exactly. You can be into BDSM but not to the point that you actually are going to hurt people without them wanting it. Generally it's sexy to be in power with the agreement of the partner, more than not doing it at all.
Because the physical experience of being tied up is powerful.
Also, some people do engage in no-safeword play after they've been together for a long time and competely trust each other.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
See, how is it you can be a word nazi, but I can't make people squirm with awkward humor?
It's just not fair! *sniff*
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That's the whole point.
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As I understand it, that occurs at about the point you can be confident giving blanket consent for another person to do anything they want, while also being sure that they won't do anything you wouldn't want them to.
I just stand vanguard over that one particular family of words
though lately I've given up on policing them anywhere beyond D&D
there was a thread the other day where people thought that transvestites were the ones who wanted to change their gender, and drag queens were any kind of crossdresser at all
but I'm getting too old to play the scholarly game
Well, right, but when you get it down to that, I don't see what's specifically Buddhist about it. It could be Buddhist inspired, but beliefs like that are far from unique to Buddhism.
Basically, I see Western Buddhist the way I see modern pagans or Wiccans. Just silly, stupid shit to me. It's my judgmental side showing itself yet again.
She always gets job being a ski lift operator or working at a camp or some shit. She just got her MBA in Ireland, and now that she's back she's going to work for Disney Cruises for a few months in the Bahamas.
SO JEALOUS
Well, you don't have to worry about me misusing gender/transgender related terms. Like I said, many of my friends are bisexual/homosexual/queer/transgendered/etc., so I'm pretty good at the 'lingo', as it were.
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Well, it's a spectrum of Buddhist-ness.
I agree with a lot of tenets of Buddhism but I don't call myself Buddhist because my beliefs aren't Buddhist enough in my opinion to warrant the label.
But if somebody believed in the four noble truths and was following the eightfold path for secular reasons, I think at that point it's perfectly acceptable call them a Buddhist. They are following the -ism taught by Buddha.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I just don't understand why you can post twice per post and I can only post once per post.
Seeing a penguin poop might have been the funniest thing I've ever experienced. I was at the zoo with my ex and there were a bunch of young children around. One of the penguins just turned around, raised its flippers, stood up on its tip-toes, and blasted all over the glass. Children started either laughing or screaming. It was so great.
I would agree with this. Buddhism is not like Western religions in that you do not have to believe in the supernatural to "be buddhist."
A Christian is NOT just someone who follows Christ's examples and thinks he was a pretty smart guy.
A Buddhist CAN BE someone who follows Buddha's examples and thinks he was a pretty smart guy.
However, the core beliefs of Buddhism in my opinion are the four noble truths and the escape from suffering via the eightfold path. If you accept those, you're a True Scotsm--- err, Buddhist.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
cause i'm just that good
also i was being meta cause it was a "post post" in terms of a "post after a post" as well
hellllll yea
Hahahaha that is incredible. Penguins are endlessly entertaining.
'Cause Mike is special like that.
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