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another fantastic thread by orikae
Orikaeshigitae
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my professors have just decided to go on strike because they've been working without a contract for the last four months.
also:
*the university wants to introduce a new class of professors which only have Masters' degrees, and give them the same responsibilities as PhDs, which devalues both the professors' profession and my education
*the U wants to reduce a fund which was set up to normalize differences in payroll due to visible minorityship, gender, disabilities, etc - it was at $100 000, which wasn't enough, and now they want to change it to $20 000.
*the previous contract held the standard of pay at the provincial average, which is the same that everyone else in ontario gets paid. this is apparently too much money now.
PROS FOR ME
fuck school.
CONS FOR ME
i'm paying $300-$500 a week so that I can say 'fuck school,' and there will be no refunds because the university is composed entirely of dickheads.
so what do you guys think? have you ever participated in a 'work stoppage' yourself? was your dad a strikebreaker for Henry Ford in the thirties?
also:
*the university wants to introduce a new class of professors which only have Masters' degrees, and give them the same responsibilities as PhDs, which devalues both the professors' profession and my education
*the U wants to reduce a fund which was set up to normalize differences in payroll due to visible minorityship, gender, disabilities, etc - it was at $100 000, which wasn't enough, and now they want to change it to $20 000.
*the previous contract held the standard of pay at the provincial average, which is the same that everyone else in ontario gets paid. this is apparently too much money now.
PROS FOR ME
fuck school.
CONS FOR ME
i'm paying $300-$500 a week so that I can say 'fuck school,' and there will be no refunds because the university is composed entirely of dickheads.
so what do you guys think? have you ever participated in a 'work stoppage' yourself? was your dad a strikebreaker for Henry Ford in the thirties?
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Also no work stoppages on my end, because here in the heart of america we have a good work ethic
get out there and strike with the teachers. lend a hand out there. be progressive and get them what teachers actually deserve
also i bet you work for walmart which has no union to strike
e: i would absolutely be out there with them but i have to take care of my dog, who as stated in previous threads is quite sick and needs to be carried around like a large furry duffel bag.
You're lucky. Hard to have a good work ethic when employers fuck you in the ass year after year. "Shit due to inflation we have to cut medical costs by half, meanwhile, I get a $200,000 raise."
it's actually hard to strike because I'm unemployed at the moment
all I really wanted to do was vote for the newspaper that had the prettier advertising campaign because I am that shallow, instead they gave me four ballot sheets with too many options
my first option were the conservative people and my last were the feminists, I did not know or care who the 16 other parties were
needless to say most people didn't score too highly
fun though
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And because my company basically has a monopoly on health care in south western PA, they can do that.
we just had a rebranding that cost 1.5mil, this is the result: www.uwindsor.ca
meanwhile i went into the art building after we had that heavy rain as a result of hurricane ike
the roof is leaking so bad that half of the painting studio floor was a giant puddle and some people's drawings got ruined because they were out to dry
Also, if it was me, I'd tell those bitches to get back to work because I don't pay 500 bucks a week for them to mull about bitching about their paychecks. They can do that in-between semesters.
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yeah but those MAs typically teach under supervision and are recognized as being separate, also these instructors would be teaching the exact same subjects as the current professors
A smart person would've taken them to court and sued them for all they're worth. You can't tell people they can be fired for organizing, and you can't fire people for it. Good scare tactic though.
i just took it as an impromptu 2 week intersession
If I were a more motivated individual.
Then it's up to you to make sure the school is meeting your educational needs. I never minded having an MA or a Teacher's Assistant (TA) for things outside of my major like my english or humanities classes. Even for some of my labs I didn't mind, because it was basically 30min of discussion and then run tests for 3 hours to determine your unkown. But if it was like Organic Chemistry or Instrumental Chemistry, I'd be pissed I was being shortchanged in my education value.
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really? i thought walmart did this constantly?
Yeah, you're right. I'd be way to lazy to fork up the cash to sue them.
it's probably a different thing for math or science, which (although i haven't taken advanced levels) seems to be pretty much 'teach the textbook in a well-founded way'
but for english teachers, almost all of the curriculum is determined by research, knowledge about the subject, and critical thinking skills, all of which are developed throughout the course of the masters' and doctorate
i wouldn't want my early british literature teacher also teaching me contemporary genre fiction, but at a lower level of credentials
It's illegal. I remember some companies in the 1800s tried to do it (I think?), and it didn't go over well. Of course, certain individuals are exempt from unions, but places like Walmart are exactly the types of places that usually have them.
http://www.unions.org/home/unionlaborlaw.php
I just got a text from a friend saying that they had to watch a video called something like "Help keep Target union free"
PHD's are there to research. MA's are there because they enjoy teaching. Who would you rather be taught by?
A lot of corporations do. People are scared of their boss all over the place. The majority of the US is scared to sacrifice for the sake of improvement
at least at my school, all professors are required to do something like 60% research 30% teaching 10% administrative stuff
so really that's not restricted to CS
A Masters is all you really need.
Was He-Man a PhD of the Universe?
No, he was one of the Masters of the Universe and yet he stilled kicked ass.
bahahahaha I would crack up if a manager showed me that video
Yeah they do shit like that. The thing is it hurts them immensely because they actually have to improve the workplace and guarantee wage improvement for things like inflation and shit. It's very beneficial to the worker because you have good job protection and benefits and stuff like this. However it does cause some cockiness and unwillingness to cooperate with management. You'll notice management in places with unions tend to be real dickfuckers. However the types of places that have them would've breed this type of manager anyways, because the nature of the work is very factory oriented or "get as much done as possible and push as hard as you can and drain the worker" type of deal. Basically minimum wage type jobs.
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Oh man I would've died laughing. Luckily two of the cool managers showed it to them, so one of them asked if people would join a union if he started one, and everyone said yes.
"Shit I guess the video didn't work then, oh well."
But at least that means you can party party party all day long, right
my dad was in charge of a plant in new jersey that went on strike, apparently the unions in jersey dont fuck around and threats were made towards my dad and family
so back here in west virginia, we got a bodyguard
these 3 guys came in shifts and sat outside the house and every now and then he would walk around making sure everything was cool
he would follow us to school and talk to the principal and such to let them know what was going on
this lasted for about 2 weeks until the strike ended
no teamsters ever made any attempts though
also there was no hot bodyguard action ala kevin costner and whitney houston
We warned you.
yeah, basically