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getting back into pc gaming.. suggestions?

moccasymmoccasym Registered User regular
edited September 2008 in Games and Technology
i'm getting back into pc gaming armed with a gtx 260 and an e8400, so i should be able to handle most of the games out there. the only question is.. which one?

the last computer game ive played a lot of world of warcraft, but i'm not looking to start a new mmorpg. some other games i played and liked back in the day:

master of orion 1,2
starcraft
diablo 1,2
quake 3

it seems like most of the games today are fps .. has anything really changed since the days of quake 2? what are your recommendations?

edit: i should add games i don't like playing:

games like tomb raider (the third person thing just messes with me and i suck @ them)
puzzle crap or games with puzzles in them to solve

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  • AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    You liked Master of Orion?

    Then you might want to try out Civilization 4.

    You might like to spend one last moment with your social life before taking the plunge though.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    moccasym wrote: »
    i'm getting back into pc gaming armed with a gtx 260 and an e8400, so i should be able to handle most of the games out there. the only question is.. which one?

    the last computer game ive played a lot of world of warcraft, but i'm not looking to start a new mmorpg. some other games i played and liked back in the day:

    master of orion 1,2
    starcraft
    diablo 1,2
    quake 3

    it seems like most of the games today are fps .. has anything really changed since the days of quake 2? what are your recommendations?

    edit: i should add games i don't like playing:

    games like tomb raider (the third person thing just messes with me and i suck @ them)
    puzzle crap or games with puzzles in them to solve

    Orange Box. Just stay away from Portal if you don't like puzzles, or awesomeness.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    As always, I am going to recommend Baldur's gate 2 or Planescape: Torment if you haven't played them.

    On a more modern front, the Ornage Box is a good suggestion.

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  • jotjot Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'll second Civ 4. Get the latest Add-on (Beyond the Sword) only, as it includes all the interesting things from the other add-on.

    If you can find it, Alpha Centauri is also excellent.

    If you liked Starcraft, check out Warcraft III. Even if you don't dig the whole B-Net thing, the single player campaigns are pretty well made.

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  • moccasymmoccasym Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    thanks i'll take a look @ civ 4, although moo was always more my cup of tea.

    i've actually played warcraft 3 and it was good. what about games like gears of war, crysis, call of duty? are these games all just clones of each other just at a different time/location with different weapons?

    and do these games play more like quake 3 or are they SLOW like halo?

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The correct answer is either Galciv 2 plus the awesome expansions (if you only get one get all of them and thank me later)

    Or

    Peggle Nights baby.

    Peggle

    fucking

    Nights

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  • AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    moccasym wrote: »
    thanks i'll take a look @ civ 4, although moo was always more my cup of tea.

    i've actually played warcraft 3 and it was good. what about games like gears of war, crysis, call of duty? are these games all just clones of each other just at a different time/location with different weapons?

    and do these games play more like quake 3 or are they SLOW like halo?

    No.

    Gears of War is a 3rd person shooter with a fairly unique system where taking cover is essential.

    Crysis is a first person shooter with wide open sandbox environments.

    Call of duty 4 is so linear that I felt my brain go numb, but the multiplayer is incredible.

    And they're all pretty frantic games.

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  • angrylinuxgeekangrylinuxgeek Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'd say before you do anything else play Half-Life 2, it's pretty much man's greatest achievement when it comes to video games.

    After that I'd play Ep1 and Ep2, then get into TF2 and Portal.

    So basically, buy the Orange Box.

    Other stuff, from different genres:

    Company of Heroes
    S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
    Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
    Audiosurf
    SWAT 4
    The Witcher: EE

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  • FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Thirding the Orange Box. It's $30 on Amazon. Everyone who will so much as tolerate the FPS genre should own it.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Antihippy wrote: »
    Call of duty 4 is so linear that I felt my brain go numb
    Oh god no, not a linear game that makes you follow its fuckawesome storyline.

    HL2 is "linear." Gears of War is "linear." Every game that doesn't sell itself as "Like GTA but" is probably "linear."

    When did "this game is linear" become an insult?

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  • moccasymmoccasym Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    oh dang, you get 5 games for $30?
    i thought it was just some knocked-up version of half-life 2

    okay i think imma hafta jump on this.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    moccasym wrote: »
    oh dang, you get 5 games for $30?
    i thought it was just some knocked-up version of half-life 2

    okay i think imma hafta jump on this.

    Come join us in the TF2 thread when you're ready [strike]to get your ass handed to you[/strike] for some friendly competitive gaming.

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  • angrylinuxgeekangrylinuxgeek Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    any PC gamer would consider himself lucky to play a knocked-up version of Half-Life 2

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  • Desert_Eagle25Desert_Eagle25 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Based on your list, here are my solid suggestions:


    Strategy Style:
    Spore (not strategy, but fun none the less)
    Sid Meier's: Civilization Series (all of them + expansions)
    Sins of a Solar Empire

    FPS Style:
    Orange Box (BEST BUY EVER)
    S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
    Crysis + Crysis Warhead

    Hack'n'Slash Style (ie Diablo):
    The Witcher: Enhanced Edition (MUST if you enjoyed diablo)

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  • MasoniteMasonite Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Games with a * are free as in beer.

    Allegiance*
    America's Army*
    Anachronox
    Arcanum
    Armed and Dangerous
    Baldur's Gate II
    Barkley Shut up and Jam Gaiden*
    Battlefield 2142
    Beneath a Steel Sky*
    Cave Story*
    Chivalry is Not Dead*
    The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay
    Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord, Barbarossa to Berlin, and Afrika Corps
    Crimson Skies
    Crysis
    Diablo II
    Dungeon Keeper 2
    Empyreal Nocturne*
    F.E.A.R and F.E.A.R Combat*
    Fallout and Fallout 2
    Freedom Fighters
    Freedom Force and Freedom Force vs. The Third Reich
    Freespace* and Freespace 2*
    Galactic Civilizations II
    Gears of War
    Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2
    Giants: Citizen Kabuto
    Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
    Grim Fandango
    Ground Control*
    Guild Wars
    Hidden and Dangerous 2
    Homeworld 2
    Jedi Academy
    Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II
    Jedi Outcast
    Knights of the Old Republic and KOTOR 2
    Lego Star Wars and Lego Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy
    Mafia
    Masq*
    Mass Effect
    Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries
    Mount and Blade
    N*
    Neverwinter Nights 2 and Mask of the Betrayer
    No One Lives Forever and No One Lives Forever 2
    Oblivion
    Planescape: Torment
    Rainbow 6: Vegas
    S.W.A.T 4
    Silent Storm
    Sim City 4
    Sins of a Solar Empire
    Splinter Cells 1, 2, and 3
    Starsiege: Tribes*
    Star Wars: Republic Commando
    Supreme Commander and Forged Alliance
    Synaesthete*
    Theater of War
    Thief, Thief 2, Thief III
    Total Annihilation: Spring*
    Tron 2.0
    Tropico
    Warcraft III
    Warzone 2100*
    The Witcher
    World in Conflict
    XIII

    On Steam:
    Assassin's Creed
    Audiosurf
    Battlestations: Midway
    Beyond Good & Evil
    Bioshock
    Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30 and Earned in Blood
    Call of Duty, Call of Duty: United Offensive, Call of Duty 2, Call of Duty 4
    Civilization IV
    Company of Heroes and Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts
    Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
    Day of Defeat: Source
    DEFCON, Darwinia, Uplink
    Deus Ex and Deus Ex 2
    Disciples II
    Dreamfall: The Longest Journey
    Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
    Fahrenheit (Indigo Prophecy)
    Full Spectrum Warrior
    GRID
    GUN
    Hitman: Something or other
    IL2 Sturmovik
    Jade Empire
    Jagged Alliance 2
    Just Cause
    Max Payne and Max Payne 2
    Medieval II: Total War
    Nexus: The Jupiter Incident
    Orange Box
    Overlord
    Painkiller
    Penny Arcade Adventures: On the Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness Episode 1
    Project: Snowblind
    Psychonauts
    Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45
    S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl
    Sam and Max: Season 1 and 2 (Season 1 Episode 4 is *[free as in beer])
    Sid Meier's Pirates!
    Trackmania United Nations*
    The Longest Journey
    Tomb Raider: Whatever the good ones are, by Crystal Dynamics or whatever
    Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
    X3: Reunion

    Mods (all free):

    Battlefield 2:
    Battlefield Pirates 2
    Forgotten Hope 2
    Point of Existence 2
    Project Reality

    Half-Life:
    Natural Selection
    The Specialists

    Half-Life 2:
    Age of Chivalry
    Fistful of Frags
    Hidden: Source
    Insurgency
    Minerva: Metastasis
    Pirates Vikings Knights 2
    Revolt: The Decimation

    It's inevitably going to happen, so we might as well get it out of the way now.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ah screw you, I ALMOST won. Arse.

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  • TwistedJesterTwistedJester Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Orange Box: Just do it.

    Battlefield 2142: Team based FPS set in the near future (not so much pskew pskew lasers future as it is set in reality future) with customizable classes and unlocks are you rank up. It's very addictive. If you get it, get the Deluxe edition. It's the same price as the regular one and includes the Northern Strike expansion pack.

    Red Orchestra: Ridiculously detailed and realistic WWII FPS revolving around the Eastern Front. It can have a steep learning curve, but the rush you get some charging an enemy position and lighting them up with an SMG is unparalleled.

    GTA: San Andreas: It holds up pretty well to this day, despite being pretty old.

    If you haven't noticed, I like First Person Shooters.

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  • angrylinuxgeekangrylinuxgeek Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    whatever you do don't buy GTA off Steam. It's bug-ridden filth.

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  • MasoniteMasonite Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ah screw you, I ALMOST won. Arse.

    This is a first for you, huh? :P

    Maybe, instead, you could elaborate on some of your recommendations.

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  • Desert_Eagle25Desert_Eagle25 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Masonite wrote: »
    Ah screw you, I ALMOST won. Arse.

    This is a first for you, huh? :P

    Maybe, instead, you could elaborate on some of your recommendations.

    Seriously. While being a good comprehensive list, it's a moot point without knowing what's good and what's not.

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  • mopdog21mopdog21 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Orange box is a great place to start back into PC gaming. You get 5 games, online play, and Steam which can lead to other games.

    The best thing about buying the orange box is that it comes with Half-Life 2, and you can then download all sorts of free mods to play with friends online. Some of them get crazy.

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  • angrylinuxgeekangrylinuxgeek Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I think he's suggesting that they're all good, it's just worthless without any sort of summary or indication what each game is. There's no reason to slog through a list like that when others are providing responses with reasoning.

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yeah, Orange box is a good starting place, because it's so cheap, and provides a really good mix of fps style games.

    Civ 4 is also an excellent choice, best turn based strategy I've played.

    The list above is good, there are a few I might remove, but for the most part they're all realy solid.

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  • moccasymmoccasym Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    sorry if this is a n00b question, but what's "STEAM" that everyone's refering to?

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  • Desert_Eagle25Desert_Eagle25 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    moccasym wrote: »
    sorry if this is a n00b question, but what's "STEAM" that everyone's refering to?

    www.steampowered.com

    It's really hard to describe. I'd call it a "gaming hub" - it allows you purchase, download, and manage your game collection (you can re-download games any time, any where) and it has amazing community features, specifically for clans, or other fun groups. It's got buddy list features and chat, and everything. You can even chat in-game with no lag. It has an extensive list of games that's constantly growing (Crysis and Crysis Warhead! Oh, and the Witcher...) and it's one of THE best Download Services available for gamers.

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  • angrylinuxgeekangrylinuxgeek Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    http://store.steampowered.com/

    A service you can use to buy games via digital distribution. Huge library, lots of sales. It's really the future of video game distribution.

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  • Shoegaze99Shoegaze99 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    moccasym wrote: »
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    it seems like most of the games today are fps .. has anything really changed since the days of quake 2?
    Yes, lots.

    Here's one more nod for the Orange Box, pretty much the best box of gaming goodness this side of Gaming Goodnessville. Half-Life 2 and its two episodes are brilliant, each better than the last, Team Fortress 2 is ridiculous fun, and Portal will convert even a puzzle-hater like you.

    ORANGE BOX YOURSELF

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  • moccasymmoccasym Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    now im confused. i should buy the games from steam instead of best buy?

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  • Shoegaze99Shoegaze99 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Either way. It doesn't matter. I prefer hard copies, but other people don't mind download style.

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  • Rogueknight-Rogueknight- Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    http://store.steampowered.com/about/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_(content_delivery)

    Steam is a service developed by Valve, famous for Half-Life 1, 2 and the Orange Box that has already been mentioned.

    It is a service that combines a friend list and game manager with digital downloads of games (That you pay for, then download off the Steam servers - no middleman or retailler between you and the developer in most cases). Steam also has functions for auto-downloading patches and updates, for games like Team Fortress 2 content is provided after release by the developer in new updates such as maps and game modes. Steam also provides a server browser, as supported games show up in server lists making it quick and easy to locate a server for your game.

    Many developers outside Valve now use steam to provide their games to users as well, making its store an excellent hub if you are interested in downloading games straight to your PC as opposed to the traditional CD and box market.

    Steam runs in your task menu and connects to the internet. It is free, so if you want to play about with it you can download it and view the functions for yourself. It isn't perfect, but it is exceptionally well thought out as a concept and generally works well in my experience.

    I think the best thing to do would be to register and have a look at some of the free content and demoes available so you get used to the interface. If you decide to purchase the Orange Box, steam will be automatically installed from the retail version or you will need to download steam before purchasing the game online.



    As for your game recommendation - If you like Starcraft, I really recommend one of these two.

    Company of Heroes -
    http://original.companyofheroesgame.com/

    This is without doubt an incredible step forward for games of the RTS (Starcraft) Genre. Some of the features added in this game are amazing - you can position your troops behind cover, with an indicator to show how effective the cover will be. Then, your troops will realistically engage the enemy - popping up over cover to take shots, flanking around to new cover if they are exposed. Strategy is everything in a gunfight - A unit behind cover with a heavy weapon can take on many different units of the same calibre in open field.

    Use mortars and lay down cover fire or blind fire. Set your Machine gun posts, and point them in the direction you want to cover an angle. Anti tank artillery guns can be moved and positioned for armor defense. Set a sniper trap in any building in town, and watch the enemy try to root you out. Set up minefields along a road, and watch enemy trucks explode and roll off the road. Then, when the truck has stopped, place your troops behind the wreckage for cover. That brilliant landmine ambush you just created? Watch as the enemy troops AI use the tank wreckage for cover, destroying all the open field advantage you had.

    Company of Heroes is an excellent strategy game, and some of the single player missions are superbly handled. Mission 3 is epic and I can't spoil it for you.

    Trailer

    Dawn of War
    http://www.dawnofwargame.com

    Another game, again by Relic in the RTS mould. Although Dawn of War doesn't have the same level of advancements (Squad cover and unit AI) it makes up for it with explosions and carnage. Based on the Warhammer 40,000 IP, this is one of the few games that really captures the speed and danger of a futuristic Warhammer battlefield. Tactics are still needed to balance out your armies weaknesses, but there is enough units for anyone to find a army they love. I can't really explain much more, watch and enjoy this - If you enjoy this opening movie, I think you are going to love the game.

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Titan Quest (the best Diablo-esque game around at the moment), Civilization IV (the best turn based Strategy game around), and GameTap (a subscription service that for $60/year will let you play hundreds of quality console & PC games on your computer), and the random indie game are pretty much all I use my computer for as for as gaming goes.

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  • angrylinuxgeekangrylinuxgeek Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    why leave your house to spend time with the unwashed masses when you can buy your games online 8-)

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  • FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    moccasym wrote: »
    now im confused. i should buy the games from steam instead of best buy?

    Generally you will want to shop around for prices still. For instance the Orange Box is still $40 on Steam I believe, better to buy it from Amazon unless you just can't bear to wait on shipping time.

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  • SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Another fun RTS game that I enjoyed a lot was World in Conflict. You don't really have to worry about resource management -- you just focus on the battles. The setting is pretty cool too -- it's 1989 and the USSR invades the US.

    edit: Also, keep in mind that whether you buy the Orange Box or any other Valve games in store or through Steam, you'll be using Steam to play it no matter what. At least that's how I understand it.

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  • Desert_Eagle25Desert_Eagle25 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    moccasym wrote: »
    now im confused. i should buy the games from steam instead of best buy?

    Basically Steam is just a service. You can buy games from there, or best buy - which ever has the better price. The great thing is, for certain games, you can actually register them with Steam (if they offer it for that game) and it becomes apart of your Steam account - meaning you can download it now at any time from any where! Just about all Valve games offer this.

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  • citizen059citizen059 hello my name is citizen I'm from the InternetRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    If you get Steam, and you happen to like music...any music at all...get Audiosurf.

    I mean, seriously...what's more fun than flying a spaceship on a psychedelic interstellar highway whilst collecting multicolored blocks to the beat of your favorite songs?

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  • Desert_Eagle25Desert_Eagle25 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    citizen059 wrote: »
    If you get Steam, and you happen to like music...any music at all...get Audiosurf.

    I mean, seriously...what's more fun than flying a spaceship on a psychedelic interstellar highway whilst collecting multicolored blocks to the beat of your favorite songs?

    WIN!

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I think I'm gonna need someone to explain what's happening there...I'm not really getting the gameplay.

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  • Desert_Eagle25Desert_Eagle25 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I think I'm gonna need someone to explain what's happening there...I'm not really getting the gameplay.

    Avoid the gray bricks, get the colored ones, get bonuses for not running into anything, get bonuses for the colors you can pile up together. oh yea, and the track, speed, rhythm, and placement of the blocks is paced off the music.

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  • citizen059citizen059 hello my name is citizen I'm from the InternetRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I think I'm gonna need someone to explain what's happening there...I'm not really getting the gameplay.

    Avoid the gray bricks, get the colored ones, get bonuses for not running into anything, get bonuses for the colors you can pile up together. oh yea, and the track, speed, rhythm, and placement of the blocks is paced off the music.

    Right. Faster songs flow downhill and you have a lot of blocks to grab. Slower songs climb uphill and have less blocks.

    The video I posted has a mix of both in the same song.

    Each track is different based on the song you choose, and you can choose anything in your library...from a CD, MP3, etc.

    Then, your score is uploaded and you can compare how you did with the rest of the world on that song.

    We have a friendly little Audiosurf competition going here.

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