And the parts have arrived. Time for the ceremonial building-of-the-new-computer, followed by the ceremonial troubleshooting-when-the-damn-thing-won't-post.
Quick question, just because I invariably feel like I'm doing it wrong, what is the correct application of thermal grease on the CPU?
RTFM :P I believe the application is different depending on whether you're using a Phenom, C2D, or C2Q. Start here and pick which processor you're using.
EDIT: Yep. For Intel's procs the line you make with the compound needs to be either vertical or horizontal.
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Subtotal: $1,002.47 CAD
Note that a little parts fiddling would easily get the Newegg build to cost less than the Ncix build, so take this comparison for what it's worth.
comment: To be honest, I'm a little excited to see that I can get an Alienware for such a reasonable price. I don't really want to build my own PC: I just want to play games.
reminder: The price of the Ncix build, the Newegg build, and, to a lesser extent, the Memory Express build would fall after rebates, as noted at the top of this post.
Only reason you'd want to buy the 4670 is if you don't have a PSU capable of running either of those, you really really love ATI/hate NVIDIA, or you've sustained brain damage.
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The 4830 is a better card than the 9800 GT. The difference isn't always huge, but you can buy them for $120, and Powercolor has one on Newegg that is $99 after the MIR. At that price you'd have to be retarded to buy the 4670 if you meet the power requirements (which are exaggerated by most people) :P
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Well then... that was just about one of the smoothest builds I have ever made. Total build took about an hour and a half, and then everything POSTed without issue, and Windows installed without so much as a hitch.
For anyone in Canada pricing out stuff be sure to check out directcanada.com, I purchased most of my stuff there and it was cheaper than ncix.ca and newegg.ca. I did order a couple of things from newegg and ncix due to directcanada not stockinhg them or just being out of stock, but for the most part they were pretty good.
Well then... that was just about one of the smoothest builds I have ever made. Total build took about an hour and a half, and then everything POSTed without issue, and Windows installed without so much as a hitch.
I didn't even get to swear once.
Wow, good work. I can only hope we are so fortunate.
I'm getting frustrated by the fact the ASUS 9800 is deactivated, I can't find anything else I am satisfied with. I think I may have to wait for black friday :x.
edit: The only place I have found the card was on PartsPC.com, but it's $20 more than when it was on newegg.
edit2: It is on BzBoyz for the same exact price.
Well then... that was just about one of the smoothest builds I have ever made. Total build took about an hour and a half, and then everything POSTed without issue, and Windows installed without so much as a hitch.
I didn't even get to swear once.
My parts should be showing up on my doorstep in the next couple hours. Since I haven't done anything even resembling a build since the nVidia 5200 was new, I'm sure I'll do enough swearing for the both of us.
Well then... that was just about one of the smoothest builds I have ever made. Total build took about an hour and a half, and then everything POSTed without issue, and Windows installed without so much as a hitch.
I didn't even get to swear once.
You suck.
It's looking more and more like my replacement vidja card isn't gonna get here till mid-late next week at the earliest. I was hoping for monday.
Well then... that was just about one of the smoothest builds I have ever made. Total build took about an hour and a half, and then everything POSTed without issue, and Windows installed without so much as a hitch.
I didn't even get to swear once.
My parts should be showing up on my doorstep in the next couple hours. Since I haven't done anything even resembling a build since the nVidia 5200 was new, I'm sure I'll do enough swearing for the both of us.
As promised. The holes in the case for the PSU, and the holes in the PSU itself, are out of line vertically by roughly 1/16th of an inch.
My video card got marked as shipped today. No Tracking # yet but that gives me hope I'll see it monday.
Weeeeeee!
So, before I get it I want some clear guidance on power supplies.
Everyone says the 500 watt supply in the OP is more than good enough for that PC. I just want to be sure that 500w (single rail) is in fact sufficient. In the back of my mind I have a concern that a insufficient PS is what caused my card to fry (though I'm not sure that makes sense, but I'm not an electrical engineer, so...). Im scared that it'll just happen again.
EDIT: I should clarify the PS I have isn't the one in the OP but a raidmax 500w supply. And I have a 2.8ghz cpu instead of the 2.53, plus a Wireless network card and an additional 2 chips (for 8gb total) ram.
Everyone says the 500 watt supply in the OP is more than good enough for that PC. I just want to be sure that 500w (single rail) is in fact sufficient. In the back of my mind I have a concern that a insufficient PS is what caused my card to fry (though I'm not sure that makes sense, but I'm not an electrical engineer, so...). Im scared that it'll just happen again.
EDIT: I should clarify the PS I have isn't the one in the OP but a raidmax 500w supply. And I have a 2.8ghz cpu instead of the 2.53, plus a Wireless network card and an additional 2 chips (for 8gb total) ram.
Post the wattage and and amperage for the +12v rail(s). If the PSU that came with the case is their RX500S, then I would say that it is insufficient. It looks like it has a single 22A +12v rail, which isn't good. The 500W PSU that comes with the OP's "bang for the buck" box has two 22A +12v rails, one of which is dedicated to the CPU.
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can someone explain the whole "rail" thing to me
i just do not understand it. so explain it like you are explaining it to a complete idiot... ie me
I was under the impression that single rail was pretty much optimal that the multiple rail thing was kind of a gimmick.
And yes, it's a RX500S.
I can't really afford a new PS right now, so well, if it doesn't work that is shit.
An insufficent PS should just make the thing not post, or at worst shut down shortly after post; not damage hardware and make it behave as if it's fried, as my video card did.
i just do not understand it. so explain it like you are explaining it to a complete idiot... ie me
In a nutshell, ATX specs state that no more than 240W can be pulled per-wire from the PSU. Since it would be insanely expensive to implement OCP (over-current protection) that way, one of the methods to meet the OCP requirement is to bundle groups of cables (namely the various 12 volt connectors) into rails (groups of wires). The problem is that power is effectively trapped on those rails; if you're only pulling 80 watts from a rail, the extra 160 watts isn't going to be available if you needed power elsewhere. So that low amperage (22A) +12v rail shouldn't be capable of delivering more than a theoretical 264 watts (depending on how loose the OCP trigger is).
In that RAIDMAX PSU the +12v connectors for the motherboard, processor, and PEG connectors are all using that single rail. Using some numbers from an Anandtech article, a 9600 GT 58.8 watts from the PEG connector and 48.0 watts from the PCI Express slot. Add in power consumption from the processor and the rest of the components and you can see where you might have problems with power consumption ;-) Quality matters a lot, as less reputable manufacturers overstate how much power can be delivered or use lower than typical operating temperatures in their tests.
I was under the impression that single rail was pretty much optimal that the multiple rail thing was kind of a gimmick.
By what standard? It doesn't matter whether it is a gimmick, the fact of the matter is that multiple-rail PSUs are more numerous. There are better alternatives, but virtually all modular PSUs (actually, I believe it is all) and the majority of other PSUs use a multiple-rail design. There are more two and four rail PSUs listed on Newegg (not combining those numbers, mind you) than single-rail designs, and that ignores the less-popular three, five, and six rail designs.
I can't really afford a new PS right now, so well, if it doesn't work that is shit.
An insufficent PS should just make the thing not post, or at worst shut down shortly after post; not damage hardware and make it behave as if it's fried, as my video card did.
Or it isn't capable of delivering enough power, or clean enough power and is causing problems that are more subtle. I've had a defective PSU cause memory errors, which isn't something most people think about considering.
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I don't have any personal attachment to any of this other than the fact that I want my PS to be good enough so I don't have to shell out the cash for a better one :P
I'm just basing the rail thing on skimming of discussion earlier in the thread. I have no opinion or knowledge on the subject personally.
Most of the ones I see say 22A for the 12V rail though, even if it's multiple. My PS doesn't list the wattage at 22A; where are you getting the 264W from?
Either way, is there an affordable PS that would be recommended if I don't need a case also?
Most of the ones I see say 22A for the 12V rail though, even if it's multiple. My PS doesn't list the wattage at 22A; where are you getting the 264W from?
It lists the amperage as 22A (that's what the A stands for). Watts should be under that, but amps x volts = watts.
Either way, is there an affordable PS that would be recommended if I don't need a case also?
Define affordable. There are some 600-650 watt units that run around 60-70 (free shipping on Newegg), and if you dig around I'm sure you might be able to find a decent one with a MIR to bring the price down a little bit. The $70 one is SLI certified, though if you were to be content with the 500W PSU that comes with the Sonata III (from the "bang for the buck" box) it's $50.
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But yeah, sub $100 is affordable. ~$50 would be ideal; that 700 watt one comes to $40 after rebate that I'm not sure I can get because of my case got the same rebate.
Building a high-end unit for a design studio, working with large photoshop documents, polygon-heavy 3D scenes and video editing etc. etc.
I haven't built a computer for a very long time. I am looking into a seperate mac machine, but this will by my personal PC as well. I don't know what's the best these days, but here is what I'm looking at. I already have monitors and PSUs.
So essentially a high-end system with 8GB of memory and 2TB of diskspace. The graphics card is for the off occasion when I play video games.
What sort of OS am I looking at running to get the most of that 8GB of ram? I live with a bunch of techies, there are a variety of spare PSUs to choose from, but what should I be looking at?
I don't have any personal attachment to any of this other than the fact that I want my PS to be good enough so I don't have to shell out the cash for a better one :P
I'm just basing the rail thing on skimming of discussion earlier in the thread. I have no opinion or knowledge on the subject personally.
Most of the ones I see say 22A for the 12V rail though, even if it's multiple. My PS doesn't list the wattage at 22A; where are you getting the 264W from?
Either way, is there an affordable PS that would be recommended if I don't need a case also?
Corsair makes pretty good power supplies that would fit in your budget if you are willing to spend around 100 up front and wait for a rebate.
These are all single rail, don't skimp on the amps, and have a 5 year warranty:
So can anyone recommend me some video cards to look at? Or can someone tell me exactly what I should be looking for in a card? I have been looking at core clock speeds and memory clock to try to make out the differences in 512mb cards. Is there a huge significance between the 9800s that are 600mhz core clock and 1800 memory and the overclocked cards that are around 700 and 2000mhz?
Nope. This Antec. It also has a longer warranty (one more year) than the RAIDMAX PSUs which is a plus.
Hey thats pretty nice.
I'll bookmark it.
I think I'm going to give my PS a shot for now though since money isn't something I have an abundance of. If it doesn't cut it I'll pick this one up. My PC has been sitting useless for a week, what's a few more days?
I am planning on upgrading my video card soon. So I am wondering if my psu will be enough.
The card I'm looking at is this: Video Card Or something similar.
My PSU is the standard one in this My Computer (My setup is that but with 2 more gigs of RAM)
Judging from what I know about power supplies, it sucks. So am I gonna be able to run the video card?
Building a high-end unit for a design studio, working with large photoshop documents, polygon-heavy 3D scenes and video editing etc. etc.
I haven't built a computer for a very long time. I am looking into a seperate mac machine, but this will by my personal PC as well. I don't know what's the best these days, but here is what I'm looking at. I already have monitors and PSUs.
So essentially a high-end system with 8GB of memory and 2TB of diskspace. The graphics card is for the off occasion when I play video games.
What sort of OS am I looking at running to get the most of that 8GB of ram? I live with a bunch of techies, there are a variety of spare PSUs to choose from, but what should I be looking at?
I've read bad things about the current (11 series) Seagate HDDs doing the rounds. Dark tales of them dying prematurely and rendering data useless. They have a good long warranty, which is nice, but the warranty of course doesn't cover any data you may lose.
I've no idea as to the validity of those reports myself, but it is something to consider. It's made me a little worried as I have an 11 series 750GB in my rig right now.
Edit: To answer your question, you'll need a 64bit OS to take advantage of all that RAM. A 32bit OS will only use 3.5GB RAM leaving the rest literally doing absolutely nothing. So if you're using Windows, that'd be Vista 64bit.
Also I'm desperately waiting on the new Intel X25-M SSDs to go down in price. RAID 0ing those things will be incredible for my next PC. Super fast booting and loading for everything, huzzah.
I am planning on upgrading my video card soon. So I am wondering if my psu will be enough.
The card I'm looking at is this: Video Card Or something similar.
My PSU is the standard one in this My Computer (My setup is that but with 2 more gigs of RAM)
Judging from what I know about power supplies, it sucks. So am I gonna be able to run the video card?
You'll need a new PSU. The antec Earthwatts series is decent.
Stay far away from that one. It basically as the same problem that the PSU that come with The Dude With Herpes' case has. I'll go ahead and mention this relatively inexpensive PSU (an Antec Earthwatts) that doesn't require a rebate.
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Something I noticed, but I'm not sure if it matters. This is the back of my case and this is the motherboard I am looking at. Am I alright with the shape on the back of the case? I know that sounds dumb, but I don't know if this is cause for concern or not.
Something I noticed, but I'm not sure if it matters. This is the back of my case and this is the motherboard I am looking at. Am I alright with the shape on the back of the case? I know that sounds dumb, but I don't know if this is cause for concern or not.
Motherboards come with a backplate that you use with it. Just take out the one that came with the case and put the new one in.
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Something I noticed, but I'm not sure if it matters. This is the back of my case and this is the motherboard I am looking at. Am I alright with the shape on the back of the case? I know that sounds dumb, but I don't know if this is cause for concern or not.
Motherboards come with a backplate that you use with it. Just take out the one that came with the case and put the new one in.
Ok, that is what I thought. Just wanted to make sure before I ended up with a motherboard I couldn't fit in.
With AMD making gains in the discrete graphics card market – rising to around 40% in third-quarter 2008 according to a recent report from Jon Peddie Research (JPR) – Nvidia is planning to cut its graphics card prices in an attempt to curb further loss of market share, according to sources at graphics card makers.
AMD anticipates taking 50% of the market after reducing prices for its ATI Radeon HD 4000 series products, but to counter Nvidia has also made moves to cut prices for its GeForce GTX 200, 9800 GT and 9600 GT series.
Q1 2009 might be a good time to buy.
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BarcardiAll the WizardsUnder A Rock: AfganistanRegistered Userregular
edited November 2008
so far so good
got my replacement mobo today, its all installed and booted, + a new psu
just installed vista 64... now i am messing around with the drivers and such
BarcardiAll the WizardsUnder A Rock: AfganistanRegistered Userregular
edited November 2008
so i have everything except the net up and running... currently 2 issues with this new computer:
vista seems to think i need to confirm that i want to open everything, how do i turn this (and any other type of bloat that will eventually come up) off?
i need a quick and easy way to connect to the net here... anyone know of any links that would help me out on this front?... i want to plug it directly into my linksys router but i have completely forgotten any of that ip address stuff
I don't know why you wouldn't be able to just plug it in. Even on my broken ass computer before I sent in my video card it automatically installed my linksys wireless card without any input from me, I picked my network put in the passcode and it worked.
In fact it was the first thing that worked on my machine before I finally got pissed and took it apart to RMA the card.
And as far as I know (and I know little about Vista, just what I've read) that confirmation thing is the norm, I don't think you can disable it. It's like Microsofts little way of saying "Quit downloading and installing viruses you dipshits." Sure, it annoys people like us who are PC savvy but it just protects those who aren't.
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EDIT: Yep. For Intel's procs the line you make with the compound needs to be either vertical or horizontal.
Memory Express build
Intel - Core™2 Duo Processor E8400 3.00GHz w/ 6MB Cache ($229.99)
Samsung - SH-S223F 22x SpeedPlus™ DVD-Writer, SATA (OEM) Black ($25.99)
ANTEC - Nine Hundred Ultimate Gamer Case ($139.99)
eVGA - nForce 750i SLI w/ DualDDR2 1066, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, 1394, PCI-E x16 SLI ($154.99)
CRUCIAL - Ballistix 2GB PC2-8500CL5 EPP Dual Channel DDR2 Kit (2 x 1GB) ($79.99)
SEAGATE - 250GB Barracuda 7200.10 SATA II w/ NCQ, 16MB Cache ($62.99)
eVGA - e-GeForce 9800GT 512MB w/ Dual DVI, HDTV-Out ($179.99)
Silverstone - Strider ST75F 750W Modular Power Supply w/ Quad +12V, EPS 12V ($169.99)
Subtotal: $1,087.92 CAD
Alienware build
Area-51® 750I
Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz 6MB Cache 1333MHz FSB
Power Supply: Alienware® 750 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
Graphics Processor: Single 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 9800 GT
Memory: 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 x 1024MB
Motherboard: Alienware® Approved NVIDIA® nForce 750i SLI Motherboard
Operating System (Office software not included): Windows Vista® Home Premium (64-bit Edition) with Service Pack 1
System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 250GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200RPM 16MB Cache
Optical Drives : Single Drive Configuration - 20X Dual-Layer Burner (DVD±RW)
Subtotal: C$1,274.0 CAD (includes OS, mouse, keyboard)
Newegg.ca build
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 $202.99
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R $28.49
Antec Nine Hundred $172.49
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB $61.49
EVGA GeForce 9800 GT 512MB $159.99
CORSAIR 750W $221.49
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) $63.99
EVGA NVIDIA nForce 750i $209.49
Subtotal: $1120.42 CAD
Ncix build
EVGA Nforce 750I SLI $148.88
Antec Nine Hundred $124.79
LG DVD+RW $34.73
Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 DDR2 2GB 2X1GB $104.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB $63.00
EVGA E-GEFORCE 9800GT $181.10
Corsair TX750W $144.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 $199.99
Subtotal: $1,002.47 CAD
Note that a little parts fiddling would easily get the Newegg build to cost less than the Ncix build, so take this comparison for what it's worth.
comment: To be honest, I'm a little excited to see that I can get an Alienware for such a reasonable price. I don't really want to build my own PC: I just want to play games.
reminder: The price of the Ncix build, the Newegg build, and, to a lesser extent, the Memory Express build would fall after rebates, as noted at the top of this post.
I don't really see any catches, but it's sort of a budget card.
What will you be using it for?
It gets beat pretty handily by a 9600GT for $85 ($105 - $20 MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130360
And will be utterly demolished by a 9800GT for $110 ($125 - $15 MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130380
Only reason you'd want to buy the 4670 is if you don't have a PSU capable of running either of those, you really really love ATI/hate NVIDIA, or you've sustained brain damage.
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The 4830 is a better card than the 9800 GT. The difference isn't always huge, but you can buy them for $120, and Powercolor has one on Newegg that is $99 after the MIR. At that price you'd have to be retarded to buy the 4670 if you meet the power requirements (which are exaggerated by most people) :P
I didn't even get to swear once.
Wow, good work. I can only hope we are so fortunate.
I'm getting frustrated by the fact the ASUS 9800 is deactivated, I can't find anything else I am satisfied with. I think I may have to wait for black friday :x.
edit: The only place I have found the card was on PartsPC.com, but it's $20 more than when it was on newegg.
edit2: It is on BzBoyz for the same exact price.
My parts should be showing up on my doorstep in the next couple hours. Since I haven't done anything even resembling a build since the nVidia 5200 was new, I'm sure I'll do enough swearing for the both of us.
You suck.
It's looking more and more like my replacement vidja card isn't gonna get here till mid-late next week at the earliest. I was hoping for monday.
It sucks sweaty ass to have a pc you can't use.
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As promised. The holes in the case for the PSU, and the holes in the PSU itself, are out of line vertically by roughly 1/16th of an inch.
My video card got marked as shipped today. No Tracking # yet but that gives me hope I'll see it monday.
Weeeeeee!
So, before I get it I want some clear guidance on power supplies.
Everyone says the 500 watt supply in the OP is more than good enough for that PC. I just want to be sure that 500w (single rail) is in fact sufficient. In the back of my mind I have a concern that a insufficient PS is what caused my card to fry (though I'm not sure that makes sense, but I'm not an electrical engineer, so...). Im scared that it'll just happen again.
EDIT: I should clarify the PS I have isn't the one in the OP but a raidmax 500w supply. And I have a 2.8ghz cpu instead of the 2.53, plus a Wireless network card and an additional 2 chips (for 8gb total) ram.
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Post the wattage and and amperage for the +12v rail(s). If the PSU that came with the case is their RX500S, then I would say that it is insufficient. It looks like it has a single 22A +12v rail, which isn't good. The 500W PSU that comes with the OP's "bang for the buck" box has two 22A +12v rails, one of which is dedicated to the CPU.
i just do not understand it. so explain it like you are explaining it to a complete idiot... ie me
And yes, it's a RX500S.
I can't really afford a new PS right now, so well, if it doesn't work that is shit.
An insufficent PS should just make the thing not post, or at worst shut down shortly after post; not damage hardware and make it behave as if it's fried, as my video card did.
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In that RAIDMAX PSU the +12v connectors for the motherboard, processor, and PEG connectors are all using that single rail. Using some numbers from an Anandtech article, a 9600 GT 58.8 watts from the PEG connector and 48.0 watts from the PCI Express slot. Add in power consumption from the processor and the rest of the components and you can see where you might have problems with power consumption ;-) Quality matters a lot, as less reputable manufacturers overstate how much power can be delivered or use lower than typical operating temperatures in their tests.
By what standard? It doesn't matter whether it is a gimmick, the fact of the matter is that multiple-rail PSUs are more numerous. There are better alternatives, but virtually all modular PSUs (actually, I believe it is all) and the majority of other PSUs use a multiple-rail design. There are more two and four rail PSUs listed on Newegg (not combining those numbers, mind you) than single-rail designs, and that ignores the less-popular three, five, and six rail designs.
Or it isn't capable of delivering enough power, or clean enough power and is causing problems that are more subtle. I've had a defective PSU cause memory errors, which isn't something most people think about considering.
I'm just basing the rail thing on skimming of discussion earlier in the thread. I have no opinion or knowledge on the subject personally.
Most of the ones I see say 22A for the 12V rail though, even if it's multiple. My PS doesn't list the wattage at 22A; where are you getting the 264W from?
Either way, is there an affordable PS that would be recommended if I don't need a case also?
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630:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152035
700:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152037
(and I didn't know that about wattage)
But yeah, sub $100 is affordable. ~$50 would be ideal; that 700 watt one comes to $40 after rebate that I'm not sure I can get because of my case got the same rebate.
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I haven't built a computer for a very long time. I am looking into a seperate mac machine, but this will by my personal PC as well. I don't know what's the best these days, but here is what I'm looking at. I already have monitors and PSUs.
MBD; Asus P5Q-Premium | x1 | $389.00
HDD; Seagate 1TB 7200RPM 32MB SATA3.0Gb/s | x2 | $638.00
CPU; Intel QUAD XEON E5450 3.0GHz | x1 | $1599.00
MEM; Corsair TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF 4GB | x2 | $411.00
VID; Asus Nvidia GTX280 HTDP 1G | x1 | $770.00
Total: $3807 AUD
All prices are from umart.
So essentially a high-end system with 8GB of memory and 2TB of diskspace. The graphics card is for the off occasion when I play video games.
What sort of OS am I looking at running to get the most of that 8GB of ram? I live with a bunch of techies, there are a variety of spare PSUs to choose from, but what should I be looking at?
Corsair makes pretty good power supplies that would fit in your budget if you are willing to spend around 100 up front and wait for a rebate.
These are all single rail, don't skimp on the amps, and have a 5 year warranty:
Corsair 550W
Corsair 650W
Corsair 750W
Not sure how many watts you're looking for so I just listed a bunch. theres also 450 and lower models.
edit: I'll check the card thread.
Hey thats pretty nice.
I'll bookmark it.
I think I'm going to give my PS a shot for now though since money isn't something I have an abundance of. If it doesn't cut it I'll pick this one up. My PC has been sitting useless for a week, what's a few more days?
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The card I'm looking at is this: Video Card Or something similar.
My PSU is the standard one in this My Computer (My setup is that but with 2 more gigs of RAM)
Judging from what I know about power supplies, it sucks. So am I gonna be able to run the video card?
I've read bad things about the current (11 series) Seagate HDDs doing the rounds. Dark tales of them dying prematurely and rendering data useless. They have a good long warranty, which is nice, but the warranty of course doesn't cover any data you may lose.
Found a thread on a UK PC shop forum (Overclockers.co.uk).
I've no idea as to the validity of those reports myself, but it is something to consider. It's made me a little worried as I have an 11 series 750GB in my rig right now.
Edit: To answer your question, you'll need a 64bit OS to take advantage of all that RAM. A 32bit OS will only use 3.5GB RAM leaving the rest literally doing absolutely nothing. So if you're using Windows, that'd be Vista 64bit.
Also I'm desperately waiting on the new Intel X25-M SSDs to go down in price. RAID 0ing those things will be incredible for my next PC. Super fast booting and loading for everything, huzzah.
You'll need a new PSU. The antec Earthwatts series is decent.
Or this: Other PSU
Ok, that is what I thought. Just wanted to make sure before I ended up with a motherboard I couldn't fit in.
Q1 2009 might be a good time to buy.
got my replacement mobo today, its all installed and booted, + a new psu
just installed vista 64... now i am messing around with the drivers and such
vista seems to think i need to confirm that i want to open everything, how do i turn this (and any other type of bloat that will eventually come up) off?
i need a quick and easy way to connect to the net here... anyone know of any links that would help me out on this front?... i want to plug it directly into my linksys router but i have completely forgotten any of that ip address stuff
I don't know why you wouldn't be able to just plug it in. Even on my broken ass computer before I sent in my video card it automatically installed my linksys wireless card without any input from me, I picked my network put in the passcode and it worked.
In fact it was the first thing that worked on my machine before I finally got pissed and took it apart to RMA the card.
And as far as I know (and I know little about Vista, just what I've read) that confirmation thing is the norm, I don't think you can disable it. It's like Microsofts little way of saying "Quit downloading and installing viruses you dipshits." Sure, it annoys people like us who are PC savvy but it just protects those who aren't.
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