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If you get into Harvard, you generally get enough scholarships and aid to get you through and THEN some.
Unless you are in upper middle class (then you are fucked do not go to Harvard you will be screwed out of money)
The upper class doesn't need the scholarships so bad.
Like you said, the upper middle class is fucked.
The true middle class does pretty alright.
The lower middle class isn't going to get into Harvard to begin with unless it's a half black, half hispanic, half native woman with a 4.0 GPA, 36 ACT and friends in the Massachusetts government.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited September 2008
And I assume you mean your major by certificate correct? It won't be super important, but they'll recognize it as a factor, especially if it indicates you can handle the monstrous workload that usually drives at least one person to drop out due to cocaine addiction.
A philosophy major will be the best, I assure you of that. After that, probably your hard sciences (if you did well on the LSAT) and then your liberal arts stuff (if you didn't do as well). Pol Sci is extremely common as a major, as is psychology and various hard sciences (I know of multiple engineers, chemists, and even a few business majors. To my knowledge, there are only 3 other PHL majors in my class, and they appear to be monsters in comprehension)
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man now I nervous
if I can maintain my GPA I will be good but it is going to be competitive! (I am trying to get into McGill)
also by certificate I mean that if you do certain classes it shows a sufficient level of knowledge in a field that they give you a seperate certificate (not a degree) that says that the university recognizes you knowledge. They are very specific, like "Economies of Developing Nations" and such
and I am a Poli Sci major but definitely top of the class
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
If you get into Harvard, you generally get enough scholarships and aid to get you through and THEN some.
Unless you are in upper middle class (then you are fucked do not go to Harvard you will be screwed out of money)
The upper class doesn't need the scholarships so bad.
Like you said, the upper middle class is fucked.
The true middle class does pretty alright.
The lower middle class isn't going to get into Harvard to begin with unless it's a half black, half hispanic, half native woman with a 4.0 GPA, 36 ACT and friends in the Massachusetts government.
The upper middle class pays the most for higher education at the best universities. And the lower class and lower middle class is actually heavily recruited by the Ivy Leagues, and they get huge scholarships. As they should, honestly, because it's harder to maintain good grades in a lower socioeconomic environment than in a house with a higher one.
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I seriously do more work in a day than most assclowns in college do in a week.
Yeah, post-undergraduate professional schooling represent!
Fuck yeah! Social lives and entertainment be damned!
This is my first time in over eight years that I have actually read all the material prior to going to class and the first time ever that I am making comprehensive study guides/outlines in order to learn the material.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
man now I nervous
if I can maintain my GPA I will be good but it is going to be competitive! (I am trying to get into McGill)
Do well on the LSAT and they will look beyond your GPA (unless it is rock bottom).
3.4 is certainly nothing to sneeze at, but it also is hardly spectacular. If you can maintain a 3.0+ average and get a 165+ LSAT score, you'll be fine.
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
If you get into Harvard, you generally get enough scholarships and aid to get you through and THEN some.
Unless you are in upper middle class (then you are fucked do not go to Harvard you will be screwed out of money)
The upper class doesn't need the scholarships so bad.
Like you said, the upper middle class is fucked.
The true middle class does pretty alright.
The lower middle class isn't going to get into Harvard to begin with unless it's a half black, half hispanic, half native woman with a 4.0 GPA, 36 ACT and friends in the Massachusetts government.
The upper middle class pays the most for higher education at the best universities. And the lower class and lower middle class is actually heavily recruited by the Ivy Leagues, and they get huge scholarships. As they should, honestly, because it's harder to maintain good grades in a lower socioeconomic environment than in a house with a higher one.
Yeah, I've read the statistics. It's just more fun to perpetuate ivy-league stereotypes.
They use a stern grading scale- you have to be pretty much perfect to get an 'A' in anything- and I'm doing all independent studies so far. I'm not too ashamed, and I only need a 2.8 for grad school. I might have to score high on the GRE to make up for it, but I tend to test higher than I grade so I might be able to pull it off.
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RankenphilePassersby were amazedby the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited September 2008
I seriously cannot explain how much fucking homework I have these days.
I seriously cannot explain how much fucking homework I have these days.
Seriously.
It is goddamned insane.
That's why I like independent studies.
Greek prepositions are insane. They lack sanity. When they introduced them at the beginning of a lesson, and I had to know all of them in all of their declinations for that section's quiz, I took a few extra days doing nothing but that. When they did a whole lesson on sentence graphing, I skipped most of it. I have to finish the course by the end of the year, other than that I'm free. Even then, I can take an extension if I really need to.
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RankenphilePassersby were amazedby the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited September 2008
I have spent every single day, from eight or nine am until around ten pm, at my school
working my ass off
saturdays included, except they kick me out at six instead of ten, so I have to go home
and on sundays, I am racing to finish my work
each week I am given a sketchbook assignment where I have to fill fifty pages of a sketchbook with drawings, four drawings per page
that's for one of my six classes. Plus I have a shitload of assigned reading.
This week for my animation class, I have one week to do three different ball bounce pencil tests, each consisting of a minimum of twenty but more likely thirty drawings each. My third part of that test, I have fifty-six frames to draw by hand. Not complex, but the timing and spacing for them is the real hard part.
That's two out of six classes.
I seriously put in fourteen hour days on schoolwork every single day.
It is fucking ridiculous and amazing.
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FandyienBut Otto, what about us? Registered Userregular
edited September 2008
Are you in some sort of collegiate auschwitz or something
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RankenphilePassersby were amazedby the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
i start animation mentor in a couple weeks
hurray!
i'm going to be taught animation by dudes at pixar, dreamworks and ilm!!!
rank: where are you going?
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited September 2008
Everytime I think that beavotron is done earning my ire I am unpleasantly surprised.
Taught animation by pixar?
I seethe.
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
I seriously do more work in a day than most assclowns in college do in a week.
Yeah, post-undergraduate professional schooling represent!
In UG I skipped about 50-75% of my classes, didn't even buy the lion's share of "required" books I was assigned, and only narrowly missed top 10%.
Now I read about 200 pages a week and transform that reading into a cogent outline as I go. Class is essentially mandatory (although, admittedly, borderline pointless). It's not impossible but it is a big change (especially the mandatory class part). I feel like I always have something to do, whereas in UG I felt like I never did.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited September 2008
I acknowledge that I have a very weak will and I am trying my damndest to.
Right now, I'm in class and we are going over a concept that has already been beaten into my head (duty of care owed to a trespasser)
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
I acknowledge that I have a very weak will and I am trying my damndest to.
Right now, I'm in class and we are going over a concept that has already been beaten into my head (duty of care owed to a trespasser)
Tort law sounds so sexy. I won't take it until next semester.
I love when the court makes shit up. You get a little of that in every subject it seems but man torts is the mother-lode.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I acknowledge that I have a very weak will and I am trying my damndest to.
Right now, I'm in class and we are going over a concept that has already been beaten into my head (duty of care owed to a trespasser)
Tort law sounds so sexy. I won't take it until next semester.
I love when the court makes shit up. You get a little of that in every subject it seems but man torts is the mother-lode.
Tort law is the most interesting class so far right now.
And tort law, insofar, is the most logical one of them all.
What's your line up like? Contracts, Torts, Con Law, Civ Pro?
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited September 2008
See above. Con Law and Property is second semester.
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I have Con Law, Civ Pro, Contracts (and legal writing). Next semester is Property, Crim, Torts, [insert elective] (and legal writing II).
You may see the sem II elective and the omission of a fourth class sem I. My school is weird.
Con law is probably the class I find "strangest." A great deal of emphasis on interpretation and agenda-pushing (Commerce Clause cases). On the one hand that's awesome, but on the other hand it produces inconsistency (which the Court calls "flexibility") and makes it hard to group things neatly in my outline. Contracts and Civ Pro have been very straight-forward so far.
i'm taking an Adult Psychopathology course that isn't supposed to be available to freshman but fuck y'all I'm super-bright
it is the most interesting class I have ever taken. between this and my psych ap class in high school, I am actually considering the whole med school-internship route because psychology actually interests me like very little else actually does
also dorm life doesn't actually take all that long to get used to
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Everytime I think that beavotron is done earning my ire I am unpleasantly surprised.
Taught animation by pixar?
I seethe.
oh munkus
when will you learn to accept me and quit all the hate?
i have decided that there is enough room for two beavers in this forum
so long as it's widely accepted that i'm the cuter of the two of us.
and it's not just pixar, let's not forget dreamworks and fucking ILM
I don't buy the beavotron con. AC may be your pawn, they may fawn over things you've drawn, but I'm not gone. I'm still on like Ghengis Khan, so say "So long!" as I bring it on.
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Raneadospolice apologistyou shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered Userregular
edited September 2008
I called a 70 year old black co-worker a honky as I left for class
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The upper class doesn't need the scholarships so bad.
Like you said, the upper middle class is fucked.
The true middle class does pretty alright.
The lower middle class isn't going to get into Harvard to begin with unless it's a half black, half hispanic, half native woman with a 4.0 GPA, 36 ACT and friends in the Massachusetts government.
A philosophy major will be the best, I assure you of that. After that, probably your hard sciences (if you did well on the LSAT) and then your liberal arts stuff (if you didn't do as well). Pol Sci is extremely common as a major, as is psychology and various hard sciences (I know of multiple engineers, chemists, and even a few business majors. To my knowledge, there are only 3 other PHL majors in my class, and they appear to be monsters in comprehension)
if I can maintain my GPA I will be good but it is going to be competitive! (I am trying to get into McGill)
also by certificate I mean that if you do certain classes it shows a sufficient level of knowledge in a field that they give you a seperate certificate (not a degree) that says that the university recognizes you knowledge. They are very specific, like "Economies of Developing Nations" and such
and I am a Poli Sci major but definitely top of the class
The upper middle class pays the most for higher education at the best universities. And the lower class and lower middle class is actually heavily recruited by the Ivy Leagues, and they get huge scholarships. As they should, honestly, because it's harder to maintain good grades in a lower socioeconomic environment than in a house with a higher one.
Sounds very similar to med school.
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Do well on the LSAT and they will look beyond your GPA (unless it is rock bottom).
3.4 is certainly nothing to sneeze at, but it also is hardly spectacular. If you can maintain a 3.0+ average and get a 165+ LSAT score, you'll be fine.
I wish I had a 3.anything
replace your friends with homework, music and the occasional visit to a forum
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Yeah, I've read the statistics. It's just more fun to perpetuate ivy-league stereotypes.
They use a stern grading scale- you have to be pretty much perfect to get an 'A' in anything- and I'm doing all independent studies so far. I'm not too ashamed, and I only need a 2.8 for grad school. I might have to score high on the GRE to make up for it, but I tend to test higher than I grade so I might be able to pull it off.
Seriously.
It is goddamned insane.
That's why I like independent studies.
Greek prepositions are insane. They lack sanity. When they introduced them at the beginning of a lesson, and I had to know all of them in all of their declinations for that section's quiz, I took a few extra days doing nothing but that. When they did a whole lesson on sentence graphing, I skipped most of it. I have to finish the course by the end of the year, other than that I'm free. Even then, I can take an extension if I really need to.
working my ass off
saturdays included, except they kick me out at six instead of ten, so I have to go home
and on sundays, I am racing to finish my work
each week I am given a sketchbook assignment where I have to fill fifty pages of a sketchbook with drawings, four drawings per page
that's for one of my six classes. Plus I have a shitload of assigned reading.
This week for my animation class, I have one week to do three different ball bounce pencil tests, each consisting of a minimum of twenty but more likely thirty drawings each. My third part of that test, I have fifty-six frames to draw by hand. Not complex, but the timing and spacing for them is the real hard part.
That's two out of six classes.
I seriously put in fourteen hour days on schoolwork every single day.
It is fucking ridiculous and amazing.
Yay lucky me!
Of course this also means Ive got pretty much nothing keeping me from finding a job, which Ive been super slacking about.
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My 22 is peanuts to your time invest Rank, all the best with that I hope it works out for you.
hurray!
i'm going to be taught animation by dudes at pixar, dreamworks and ilm!!!
rank: where are you going?
Taught animation by pixar?
I seethe.
fo rizzle.
Holla back atcha.
In UG I skipped about 50-75% of my classes, didn't even buy the lion's share of "required" books I was assigned, and only narrowly missed top 10%.
Now I read about 200 pages a week and transform that reading into a cogent outline as I go. Class is essentially mandatory (although, admittedly, borderline pointless). It's not impossible but it is a big change (especially the mandatory class part). I feel like I always have something to do, whereas in UG I felt like I never did.
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beav is awesome in several mildly related ways
I keep reading that as "awesome in several mildly retarded ways.
in other news, my school's still on strike. i am wearing a blanket as a toga.
Right now, I'm in class and we are going over a concept that has already been beaten into my head (duty of care owed to a trespasser)
Tort law sounds so sexy. I won't take it until next semester.
I love when the court makes shit up. You get a little of that in every subject it seems but man torts is the mother-lode.
AKA: mdraw, dux, milkman
Tort law is the most interesting class so far right now.
And tort law, insofar, is the most logical one of them all.
EDIT: Are you taking Constitutional law now? Property? We got Torts, Contracts I, Civ Pro, and Crim law.
Oh, and Legal resarch/writing.
What's your line up like? Contracts, Torts, Con Law, Civ Pro?
AKA: mdraw, dux, milkman
You may see the sem II elective and the omission of a fourth class sem I. My school is weird.
Con law is probably the class I find "strangest." A great deal of emphasis on interpretation and agenda-pushing (Commerce Clause cases). On the one hand that's awesome, but on the other hand it produces inconsistency (which the Court calls "flexibility") and makes it hard to group things neatly in my outline. Contracts and Civ Pro have been very straight-forward so far.
AKA: mdraw, dux, milkman
oh munkus
when will you learn to accept me and quit all the hate?
i have decided that there is enough room for two beavers in this forum
so long as it's widely accepted that i'm the cuter of the two of us.
and it's not just pixar, let's not forget dreamworks and fucking ILM
it is the most interesting class I have ever taken. between this and my psych ap class in high school, I am actually considering the whole med school-internship route because psychology actually interests me like very little else actually does
also dorm life doesn't actually take all that long to get used to
i am impressed
I don't buy the beavotron con. AC may be your pawn, they may fawn over things you've drawn, but I'm not gone. I'm still on like Ghengis Khan, so say "So long!" as I bring it on.
he was laughing very hard
I hope he didn't die