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Wii game with realistic graphics?

RingmasterRingmaster Registered User regular
edited September 2008 in Games and Technology
Well i got one of these suckers, and hooked it up to a high-def TV.

So far i've played Soul Caliber: Legends and I'm currently playing Resident Evil 4 for the first time. Along with all the crappy games that tend to go with the system like wii sports(fun, just not very aesthetically pleasing)

These games looked like they had the best possible graphics for the wii so far.. Well besides zelda but i'm not really a fan. But so far i've been kind of disappointed, is there anything that looks around the level of PS2 graphics? Or should i just give up my search and use the wii to play games seemingly childish graphics?

Don't get me wrong i realized that the wii was starting out with graphics suitable for a child's cartoon, i'm just kind of hoping for something with a little more realistic feel to it..

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  • NerdtendoNerdtendo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Both of the games you mentioned are graphically superior to the PS2 already.

    Honestly though, if you want prettier games, you picked the wrong system. There's games on it that are artistically pleasing, but if you're looking for more realistic graphics, look elsewhere.

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  • BeckBeck Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Metroid Prime 3, I guess.

    I think that's what you're asking for.

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  • RingmasterRingmaster Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Well hell i'm not talking about PS3 quality, but Res 4 does not looks as good as Grand Turismo 3 for instance. I suppose Soul Caliber was alright it was just the terrain that bugged me, and considering you see a lot of it; kind of left a lasting impression.

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  • InfestedGnomeInfestedGnome Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I think Super Smash Brothers Brawl looks pretty good in HD

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  • JebralJebral The guy nobody pays attention to Down South in the land of free thinkingRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Mario and Metroid are pretty much tops on the system.

    Seems nobody but Nintendo can be bothered to put effort into their games.

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  • RingmasterRingmaster Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Beck wrote: »
    Metroid Prime 3, I guess.
    It looks closer to what i'm talking about.


    I guess i'm just kind of disappointed with what the games looked like in trailers and what not, and then when i finally got to play the game it just didn't seem anything like it.. I know it's not the first time this kind of thing has happened, it's just a little depressing not seeing anything looks as good as you expected it to.

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  • MblackwellMblackwell Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    RE4 should look way better than the PS2 version, and a lot of other games in general at least from last gen (as long as your Wii is set to output correctly).

    Metroid Prime 3 is fairly high in the way of lookers. It doesn't necessarily blow your mind until you get down to the first planet and see the incredible detail though. Metal of Honor: Heroes has decent graphics as well... most of the time. Super Mario Galaxy is lovely, although some of the first few parts are fairly simple. Harry Potter looks fairly good as well. Probably not your bag though.

    Other than that I couldn't really say off the top of my head (I'm at the office). There are some awesome looking games (graphically) coming out at later dates but not necessarily a lot that are already out. Sadly, your best bet is probably GameCube games, which sounds strange but titles like Rogue Leader still tend to look better than what's been coming out of the gate... which is ridiculous considering stuff like that was launch software for the GameCube and the Wii has all of the architecture double clocked and has twice the graphics pipe. There's really no excuse for any Wii game to look bad period.

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  • KingMooKingMoo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    your title says "good" graphics and you OP says "childish" graphics.

    are you looking for good graphics or adult style graphics?

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  • MblackwellMblackwell Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ah but which is which?

    Is not Blood Rayne more adult than Captain Kangaroo?

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  • IceBurnerIceBurner It's cold and there are penguins.Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Look no further than Monster Hunter 3. You'll have to wait 'til 2009 to play it, though.

    (im)Maturity is relative.

    I believe a more accurate rendition of the original posters desired criterion would be "realistic graphics". Aplogies, but there aren't a whole lot of these out now. You must understand that nearly no one believed in the Wii's capabilities at the beginning of this generation, thus nearly no one planned to develop for it. 3rd parties are working on it now, but they've only just started. All the major attention that has been shifted to the Wii will begin to come to fruition within the next two years.

    This is almost the same pattern as DS, a very few good titles early on, 2 years went by with relatively nothing as 3rd party developers figured out what the heck to do with the unusual system, and now it's King of the World.

    Aside from that, Nintendo themselves unfortunately can no longer be relied upon to deliver typical realistically-rendered action-based "video games". There's a much larger audience which they've captured, an audience in which they have almost nil competition and with which they are making many, many times the money they ever did with "gamers".

    TL; DR - There's not much now, but be patient and you'll get to enjoy some amazing stuff. Just probably not 1st party titles.

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  • JebralJebral The guy nobody pays attention to Down South in the land of free thinkingRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Medal of Honor Heroes is OK looking, but that's one to play to see the system's as yet untapped FPS potential more than anything else.

    It runs at a constant 60fps and has the best controls of anything ever.

    All that said, keep an eye out for The Conduit. One of their goals is to show people that yes, Wii games can look good. And they've taken lots of inspiration from MoHH for the controls, so it should be solid whenever it comes out.

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  • MblackwellMblackwell Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    In which case he's looking ahead to 2009 for the most part.

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  • RingmasterRingmaster Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    KingMoo wrote: »
    your title says "good" graphics and you OP says "childish" graphics.

    are you looking for good graphics or adult style graphics?

    i suppose "adult style" might be the right way of saying it, of course the game won't get to explicit in any sense otherwise Nintendo wouldn't allow it to come out. And it's not even that i'm looking for any sort of violence, it's just...

    Imagine you get all pumped to see Grand Turismo 4 come out, and then they use and then when it finally comes out it looks like everything was ripped out of a Super Mario game. I know there's no cars in Super mario but i'm talking about graphic differences here. I swear some of these games were designed to entertain toddlers, which really doesn't bother me it's just finding games that weren't made for that.

    Anyway i'm going to mess around with the settings and see if i messed up somewhere(could have) and i'll deffinitely look into those game suggestions, thanks guys.

    Looks like i'll be waiting till 2009, but i can wait it's just nice to have something to look forward to..

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Metriod Prime 3 has probably the best graphics on the system.

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  • JorilJoril BelgiumRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The game doesn't really go for photorealism, but does anyone agree that Battalion Wars 2 has some very nice looking visuals?

    It might be a cheesy thing to say, but that game has some of the best water effects i've seen on the Wii.
    And then there's the art style that's very well done.

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  • BeckBeck Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ringmaster wrote: »
    Beck wrote: »
    Metroid Prime 3, I guess.
    It looks closer to what i'm talking about.


    I guess i'm just kind of disappointed with what the games looked like in trailers and what not, and then when i finally got to play the game it just didn't seem anything like it.. I know it's not the first time this kind of thing has happened, it's just a little depressing not seeing anything looks as good as you expected it to.

    Yeah, the Wii is sort of like that. I went into the Wii being pretty excited, and overall I've left unimpressed. But I guess I thought I would be happy with something and wasn't.

    Maybe I thought there would be more games like Mario Galaxy.

    It's a good pairing with the 360, though, as lame as that is to say.

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  • IceBurnerIceBurner It's cold and there are penguins.Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Oh Ringmaster, I forgot to mention the rather nice-looking Deadly Creatures. There's a PA thread with sizeable pictures.

    You play as a spider or scorpion in the harsh reality of what goes on around & underfoot of human civilization; the utter savagery of wildlife who (as we like to forget) mercilessly kill each other daily just to get by. Great game concept and strong, realistic graphics.

    You get to explore natural environments at an unsual scale, and see the vast world just centimeters out of our reach, beneath the earth and in between our walls. As an arachnid you won't be limited to the ground and will be able to crawl over walls and ceilings. You'll take on creatures your size, but also predators many times that, such as serpents. People suspect the final encounter will even be a battle to the death with a human being, which if you think about it as a bug, is thousands of times your size.

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  • RingmasterRingmaster Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    IceBurner wrote: »
    Oh Ringmaster, I forgot to mention the rather nice-looking Deadly Creatures. There's a PA thread with sizeable pictures.

    You play as a spider or scorpion in the harsh reality of what goes on around & underfoot of human civilization; the utter savagery of wildlife who (as we like to forget) mercilessly kill each other daily just to get by. Great game concept and strong, realistic graphics.

    You'll take on other insects but also predators many times your size, such as serpents. People suspect the final encounter will be a battle to the death with a human being.

    yeah i saw that sucker.. i might have arachnophobia.. but hell it might be worth checking out, i might have to put down the controls every once in awhile but no worries their on a string lol.

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  • LoneIgadzraLoneIgadzra Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Tbh I spent a goodly amount of time playing through Metroid Prime 3 and enjoying it, but then I went back to Twilight Princess and was like "wait a sec this is a fuckton prettier/immsersive".

    I would rate Mario Galaxy the best of all the games I own in terms of graphics, though I have a love/hate relationship with the actual game. (I wish I could edit the physics too because I only have a couple little changes that would completely turn around all the levels that make me want to scream.)

    But to say that PS2 games look better than any of the ones mentioned is a laugh.

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Let me get this straight, first. You're looking for good graphics, but the graphics cannot be simplistic in nature, nor, I assume, can they have a "cartoon-like" aesthetic? So while something simple and clean like Wii Sports doesn't necessarily look bad, it's out, because it's simple. And while Mario Galaxy may indeed look great, its aesthetic is too "cartoon like" for your tastes?

    Am I reading your OP right?


    If that's the case, then great games like Mario Galaxy and Zack & Wiki are out, among others. I'm going to guess that Boom Blox is out too. So is Mario Kart. And Strikers Charged.



    Here are some suggestions, anyway:

    Legend of Zelda TP
    Smash Bros Brawl
    Prime 3
    Bully SE (yes, it's very much improved graphically from the PS2)
    Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles
    Pinball Hall of Fame Williams Collection (photorealistic pinball!)
    maaaybe Endless Ocean
    Tiger Woods 09 - graphics much improved over last gen, and the swing mechanic and gameplay are excellent




    No More Heroes has an interesting and cool aesthetic, but I don't think it fits your criteria

    Trauma Center 1 and 2 have excellent aesthetic and are both great games, but nothing technically impressive. Just really great gameplay and excellent wii remote usage.


    Geometry Wars Galaxies probably falls short of your criteria, despite having excellent, psychadelic graphics, and addicting, expansive gameplay


    Batallion Wars 2 has good graphics and excellent style, but it's not realistic in its art design. Great game though.


    Fire Emblem has excellent style as well that isn't harmed by the fact that it isn't technically impressive.

    Sonic & The Secret Rings actually has awesome graphics and runs at 60 fps in 480p widescreen; but I think this too falls short of the OP's expectations because it's "cartoonlike" in its presentation. Tough game to recommend since it's love/hate anyway.






    The fact is, the best games on the Wii are the ones that look good because they have great artistic style, rather than going for realism. The best games on the system take the most advantage of the system's assets, which are the controls - visually, it's better to do artistically unique style with the graphics rather than trying to make them look realistic.


    It's easy to recommend a game with good style and thus pleasing visuals for the Wii. It makes much more difficult when I have no idea what is precluded for being "childish." I don't consider Mario Kart or Strikers childish, nor Mario Galaxy. It's also tough to answer the OP if we can't recommend games that still look great despite not being technically impressive - thus stuff like Trauma Center or Metal Slug or Guilty Gear or Fire Emblem, which all look excellent graphically, they are not technically impressive or realistic, and therefor out.


    That technical impressiveness limitation makes this difficult because the system itself is not technically impressive. That doesn't prevent it from having good looking games, it's just that you won't find many that make you say, "wwhoah that looks awesome" in technical terms, but perhaps in terms of style.

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  • brynstarbrynstar Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ringmaster, are you using a component cable? That'll definitely help if you're hooked up to an HDTV. I'm sure you probably are, but I just thought I would check.

    Otherwise, I completely agree with Slash. The best looking games on the Wii are the ones that play to the strengths of the system and go for style over pure technical muscle, since the Wii isn't really capable of all the fancy things that higher-end hardware can do.

    My personal favorite is No More Heroes.

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  • DusdaDusda is ashamed of this post SLC, UTRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    This is a difficult thing to determine, Ringmaster (good CD by the way). If we're talking in purely technical terms, then you've invented an oxymoron in your thread title. If you're talking about inspiring art direction with the tools available, however, look at something like Mario Galaxy or Smash Brawl.

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  • RingmasterRingmaster Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    slash000 wrote: »
    Let me get this straight, first. You're looking for good graphics, but the graphics cannot be simplistic in nature, nor, I assume, can they have a "cartoon-like" aesthetic? So while something simple and clean like Wii Sports doesn't necessarily look bad, it's out, because it's simple. And while Mario Galaxy may indeed look great, its aesthetic is too "cartoon like" for your tastes?

    Am I reading your OP right?

    Fire Emblem has excellent style as well that isn't harmed by the fact that it isn't technically impressive.


    That technical impressiveness limitation makes this difficult because the system itself is not technically impressive. That doesn't prevent it from having good looking games, it's just that you won't find many that make you say, "wwhoah that looks awesome" in technical terms, but perhaps in terms of style.

    I consider a game "childish" if it looks like they specifically made the graphics that way so everyone could play. Oh and it's a shame to hear Fire Emblem wasn't that great, it looked pretty cool but i heard it was unforgiving for new players.. Seeing as i haven't played them before guess it wouldn't be looking to good for me.

    But to be honest the cartoony type games don't bother me, i just don't think i'll have a hard time finding them on my own. What i am having trouble with.. or was before the suggestions.. is trying to find a game with surprisingly good graphics. I'd like to keep my collection closer to things looking realistic.. My vision is actually slightly blurry.. and when i look at some games it actually looks pretty close to real for me. That's kind of why i like to play games on the more realistic side of things..

    Now it doesn't mean i don't like cartoony games, oh i do.. especially when they are.. how do i put this? Better looking? more detailed? Prettier? Smash Bros Brawl is kind of a good example.. i haven't played it but if the game play is anything like the trailers..

    Then again Res 4 isn't looking anything like the trailers did.. i really don't think i have the settings right.. could be the cords..

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  • TrevorTrevor Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Going from what appears to be your definition of "good graphics" I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you bet on the wrong horse when you bought a Wii. There's a lot of stuff worth looking at out there, but it's not for the realistic graphics.

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  • brynstarbrynstar Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    No problem, running the Wii in 480i over composite on an HDTV is definitely an unpleasant experience, so getting a component cable and running in 480p will improve things decently.

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Trevor wrote: »
    Going from what appears to be your definition of "good graphics" I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you bet on the wrong horse when you bought a Wii. There's a lot of stuff worth looking at out there, but it's not for the realistic graphics.

    I kind of agree. I have a Wii and love it. But I bought it knowing that I'm not going to be impressed by the technical merits of the graphics, nor do I expect that most of the games will be impressive graphically with "realistic" art direction. I expect, and so far has been the case, the best looking games are the ones with unique and interesting art styles - or at least clean-cut art styles. There really isn't anything to be impressed by in terms of technical achievement. Now that doesn't mean the Wii can't have games that shoot for a realistic angle, but it will mean that any game that does this won't blow our minds. Unless it's under specific circumstances, like The Williams Collection.

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  • UltimanecatUltimanecat Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'm pretty sure the OP started this thread as a form of self-flagellation. Either that, or he's just looking to stir shit up.

    You're not going to find many games emulating photorealism on the Wii. You're probably already barking up the right tree with RE4, and RE: Umbrella Chronicles looks pretty solid as well. But to be honest, if a developer was dead set on providing photorealism, they'd probably avoid the Wii.

    While I know "cartoon" graphics annoys some people, I'd still give some of the other games mentioned here a go. You're only doing yourself a disservice by brushing them off.

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  • FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ringmaster wrote: »
    Oh and it's a shame to hear Fire Emblem wasn't that great, it looked pretty cool but i heard it was unforgiving for new players.. Seeing as i haven't played them before guess it wouldn't be looking to good for me.

    This is completely wrong. On normal difficulty, it is hard. On easy it is...easy.

    On either difficulty, it is the only English Fire Emblem to allow saving during battle, which makes it much more lenient than any of the other releases (Though normal is still much more difficult than the standard difficulties for any of the others).

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  • Waka LakaWaka Laka Riding the stuffed Unicorn If ya know what I mean.Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The Conduit is coming out soon, looks good for a Wii game, but suffers heavily from a few uninteresting aesthetic choices. Not so much the engine itself, it looks good, just the design.

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I don't even know what qualifies as "cartoon graphics." Stuff like No More Heroes, Metal Slug Anthology, Guilty Gear Accent Core, Guitar Hero 3, Trauma Center, Galaxy Wars, Shiki 3, these are some examples of great games on the system that are not "realistic" at all, visually, but still have art styles that I would not classify as cartoony in a "childish" way.

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  • Glenn565Glenn565 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Frosteey wrote: »
    Ringmaster wrote: »
    Oh and it's a shame to hear Fire Emblem wasn't that great, it looked pretty cool but i heard it was unforgiving for new players.. Seeing as i haven't played them before guess it wouldn't be looking to good for me.

    This is completely wrong. On normal difficulty, it is hard. On easy it is...easy.

    On either difficulty, it is the only English Fire Emblem to allow saving during battle, which makes it much more lenient than any of the other releases (Though normal is still much more difficult than the standard difficulties for any of the others).
    This was a screw up on Nintendo's part though. Our normal was the hard mode in Japan.

    Anyway, while Radiant Dawn only looks marginally better then the Gamecube one, IS improved the battle animations considerably to compensate. When one of your guys lands a critical, you can feel it. It's a great feeling.

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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Godfather is pretty good looking, definately an improvement over the PS2 version.

    To me the best graphics I've seen though tend to lean towards cartoony - the autumn level of Mario Kart for example.

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  • RingmasterRingmaster Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ultimanecat ~ "I'm pretty sure the OP started this thread as a form of self-flagellation. Either that, or he's just looking to stir shit up."

    Your way off base, I ask questions for answers. Nothing else.

    .. i kind of feel like i'm repeating myself, but maybe i'm just not saying it right.

    I like Cartoony Games, but i can find them myself.

    I'm looking for Games like RE4 but slightly better, i don't mean in game play(i've actually really enjoyed that so far) just graphically.

    And i might be able to do that by getting a component cable so that might be cool.. Or hell maybe if i just bring the contrast waaay down it'll make it look better.. I keep things in Vivid so i can see where i'm supposed to shoot but it might not be necessary..

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Glenn565 wrote: »
    This was a screw up on Nintendo's part though. Our normal was the hard mode in Japan.

    How so? Many Japanese companies will take the Hard Mode of their games in Japan and make those the Normal mode for the western releases. Devil May Cry and I think Ninja Gaiden did the same thing.

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  • TrevorTrevor Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    But weren't those two games that are reviled for being too difficult for most people? Sounds a little screwy to me.

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Trevor wrote: »
    But weren't those two games that are reviled for being too difficult for most people? Sounds a little screwy to me.

    No, actually, they were praised for their difficulty, and the sense of satisfaction that comes from mastering them.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Shiki 3 does unload a ridiculous amount of obstacles on screen without any trace of slowdown, if that's your thing, but it is a 2D game.
    And as difficulty goes, there's almost no limit to how sick that game can get. You can even turn up the speed and size of enemy projectiles.

    NiGHTS has some beautiful environments, but that's hardly an 'adult' thing. Especially not the story, ech.

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  • Glenn565Glenn565 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    slash000 wrote: »
    Glenn565 wrote: »
    This was a screw up on Nintendo's part though. Our normal was the hard mode in Japan.

    How so? Many Japanese companies will take the Hard Mode of their games in Japan and make those the Normal mode for the western releases. Devil May Cry and I think Ninja Gaiden did the same thing.

    I think it had to do with Nintendo making Japan's Mania difficulty our hard, and just moving the other difficulties down. Of course, the problem is they never told anyone this.

    Here's a visual representation. Japan's are on the left, US is on the right:
    Mania=Hard
    Hard=Normal
    Normal=Easy

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  • DarlanDarlan Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'd say the prettiest game I've put in my Wii would have to be either Okami or Wind Waker. Wonderful visual styles that truly overcome the technical limitations of the system they were originally developed for.

    (Granted, a lot of the environment textures in Wind Waker are atrocious, but dammit, the character models. They're gorgeous.)

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  • SaddlerSaddler Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Let me second Medal of Honor Heroes 2. I also enjoyed Call of Duty 3. Good graphics, mostly cool game with the exception of a few clumsy driving parts.

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