Speaking of Cable, did anyone read Messiah War #1?
Is Apocalypse in the story? I'm confused who Wolverine meant when he said him? I just see a technologically advanced city. No huge statues or anything.
Also, Ruby is awesome. I hope she wouldn't go to some shitty team like the Exiles. Wouldn't mind her on X-Factor! Maybe even have her join Cable. The possibilities are endless.
Yeah, I'm fairly positive Wolverine was referring to
Apocolypse. I'm more interested in Deadpool being there though. Seems kind of random/misplaced for this particular story.
As far as Ruby goes, I think I'm just fascinated by the fact that
She turns to Ruby as opposed to turning into Diamond. I just think that's awesome.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Well, it's not purely Ruby, is it? It's more a Ruby energy form. She said she hasn't age in eighty some years. Not sure Emma's diamond form could do that. She also has access to her lazery pew pew powers in her alternate form, unlike Emma.
But I agree, the whole idea of her having an alternate form like her mother is cool.
Well, it's not purely Ruby, is it? It's more a Ruby energy form. She said she hasn't age in eighty some years. Not sure Emma's diamond form could do that. She also has access to her lazery pew pew powers in her alternate form, unlike Emma.
But I agree, the whole idea of her having an alternate form like her mother is cool.
Emma's diamond form makes her impervious to anything. Even age. Ruby hasn't switched out of her Ruby form in that entire time. I'm fairly positive her Ruby form is identical to Emma's diamond form. And Telepathy is different then optic eye blasts.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Well, I'm not going to go sifting through every issue of X-Men for evidence... I've seen it done both ways, so neither of us have conclusive proof.
That being said though, I am right and you are wrong.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Maybe they didn't change Ruby's hair because they figured Summers family has enough redheads.
I wonder how much difference there is between diamonds and rubies in hardness.
Also, wild coincidence if Ruby is her real name and she just happened to get ruby form as a power.
Not a coincidence. Layla told Cyclops what to name her.
Did no one read the X-Factor Layla Miller special around here? Also, her powers manifested later.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Maybe they didn't change Ruby's hair because they figured Summers family has enough redheads.
I wonder how much difference there is between diamonds and rubies in hardness.
Also, wild coincidence if Ruby is her real name and she just happened to get ruby form as a power.
Diamonds are about 5 times harder than Rubies according to the Mohs Scale of Hardness. That doesn't mean it is super tough. Just able to resist abrasion or scratching.
Maybe they didn't change Ruby's hair because they figured Summers family has enough redheads.
I wonder how much difference there is between diamonds and rubies in hardness.
Also, wild coincidence if Ruby is her real name and she just happened to get ruby form as a power.
Not a coincidence. Layla told Cyclops what to name her.
Did no one read the X-Factor Layla Miller special around here? Also, her powers manifested later.
Hmm, probably read it, don't remember it.
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Cyclops must be pretty upset that every kid he has in alternate timelines is a girl. Throw him a bone, Marvel. He has a son but he disappeared forever and then he raised him for only 10 years and then the age things makes it so awkward to talk to him like a son.
Cyclops must be pretty upset that every kid he has in alternate timelines is a girl. Throw him a bone, Marvel. He has a son but he disappeared forever and then he raised him for only 10 years and then the age things makes it so awkward to talk to him like a son.
He has two sons and two daughters: Nate Grey and Cable; Rachel and Ruby. Unless I'm missing another Summers kid and let's face it, there are Summers all over the Marvel universe.
Cyclops must be pretty upset that every kid he has in alternate timelines is a girl. Throw him a bone, Marvel. He has a son but he disappeared forever and then he raised him for only 10 years and then the age things makes it so awkward to talk to him like a son.
So, this is related in terms of the psychology: I read an interview w/ Philip Glass recently, where he was talking about how his father had died relatively young. In fact, Glass is now older than his father was when he died.
This means that when Glass thinks of his father, he imagines a man younger than he himself is. He talked briefly of how bizarre a feeling that is.
I imagine there's something similar for a character like Cable: he's known Cyclops as his father (for years, as Slim) and as an adult (i.e. after Cable came to the 'present') but Cyclops is still younger by decades than Cable is. As a result, Cable has never known his father as a man as old as he himself is.
Cyclops must be pretty upset that every kid he has in alternate timelines is a girl. Throw him a bone, Marvel. He has a son but he disappeared forever and then he raised him for only 10 years and then the age things makes it so awkward to talk to him like a son.
That's actually Wolverine narrating. It's from the Marvel Holiday Special from 1996, which features Wolverine pissing all over the holidays as the rest of the X-Men enjoy themselves (Bah humbub!).
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That always annoyed me with Department H and Weapon X/Plus, how they made it into something more than Canada and later a primarily US thing (which is evil, Mark Millar is right, we suck, etc. etc.), as if Canada can't be heartless evil people too.
Speaking of Millar, I can't wait till Old Man Logan hits as a trade.
When's the final issue supposed to it? I figure it'll be out as a hardcover lickety-split afterwards.
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Right. It gives you + rep points in the eyes of the world.
"Hey man, that Canada is hardcore, they took this one guy and gave him metal claws, and he travels around the world and knows everyone at the most opportune times! It's like he has all these past things that can be called up for plot devices later on, don't mess with the American Denmark."
It could've even been an interesting plotline, to be honest. It's always like, America, fuck yeah! Won the Capes war without even trying, thanks House of M! Go initiative! Whoo! The second most country that has Super Heroes is what, Britain? Russia has like, a team? But then Canada would have this huge secret section of it's government that turns people into mysterious men with pointy things and a need forblood.
Speaking of Cable, did anyone read Messiah War #1?
Is Apocalypse in the story? I'm confused who Wolverine meant when he said him? I just see a technologically advanced city. No huge statues or anything.
Also, Ruby is awesome. I hope she wouldn't go to some shitty team like the Exiles. Wouldn't mind her on X-Factor! Maybe even have her join Cable. The possibilities are endless.
Yeah, I'm fairly positive Wolverine was referring to
Apocolypse. I'm more interested in Deadpool being there though. Seems kind of random/misplaced for this particular story.
It wasn't clear at all, but the little character files bit at the end gives it away.
Considering there's one for Apocalypse, he has to be involved, so any high tech city has to be his.
meh... every time I see a fancy city in a dystopian future, I automatically think
Apocalypse.
And I'm almost always right.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
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I liked the Cable/Deadpool issues where Deadpool was going through all these timelines, and wandered into House of M, and thought "oops, wrong timeline"
Niceiza did such a good job dealing with 2 characters that were messed with by editorial mandates and getting them to 50 issues.
There was a long stretch in the 90s when if you saw anything and thought that you'd be right.
And this is why I said earlier in the threat that some villains have become storylines-in-themselves rather than actual characters. Every few years they come back and re-enact the same story again with a couple minor adjustments. I've developed a kind of gag-reflex to Apocalypse, Sinister, and Stryfe. It's like being force-fed crazy pills.
I liked the Cable/Deadpool issues where Deadpool was going through all these timelines, and wandered into House of M, and thought "oops, wrong timeline"
Niceiza did such a good job dealing with 2 characters that were messed with by editorial mandates and getting them to 50 issues.
When I first read that book (and specifically, those exact issues you mentioned), I was so blown away by how he had actually made Cable into a well-developed, respectable character and removed most of the bullshit from him.
I haven't read any of the new Cable, but I can only assume most of that stuff is out the window now.
It'd be pretty funny if they'd stumbled into some other comic's post-apocalyptic future and end up fighting Kang the Conqueror instead.
I thought Kang was a benevolent dictator, i.e. his people lived in a dictatorship, but a 'happy' one (as opposed to a dystopia like we're talking about).
There was a long stretch in the 90s when if you saw anything and thought that you'd be right.
And this is why I said earlier in the threat that some villains have become storylines-in-themselves rather than actual characters. Every few years they come back and re-enact the same story again with a couple minor adjustments. I've developed a kind of gag-reflex to Apocalypse, Sinister, and Stryfe. It's like being force-fed crazy pills.
I liked the Cable/Deadpool issues where Deadpool was going through all these timelines, and wandered into House of M, and thought "oops, wrong timeline"
Niceiza did such a good job dealing with 2 characters that were messed with by editorial mandates and getting them to 50 issues.
When I first read that book (and specifically, those exact issues you mentioned), I was so blown away by how he had actually made Cable into a well-developed, respectable character and removed most of the bullshit from him.
I haven't read any of the new Cable, but I can only assume most of that stuff is out the window now.
Cable has been pretty good in his own book, hasn't reverted anything. I think he's really grown even more, because he's basically been a father protecting his daughter from the worst things imaginable for 10 years.
Hey guys, what are the chances that Wolverine's captured a small army of skrulls and is forcing them to do his bidding by taking his place while he sips beers in the former skrull command room, thereby explaining how he manages to be everywhere?
Hey guys, what are the chances that Wolverine's captured a small army of skrulls and is forcing them to do his bidding by taking his place while he sips beers in the former skrull command room, thereby explaining how he manages to be everywhere?
If that happened, then they may get to fit him into War of Kings as well!
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Yeah, I'm fairly positive Wolverine was referring to
As far as Ruby goes, I think I'm just fascinated by the fact that
But I agree, the whole idea of her having an alternate form like her mother is cool.
Her hair doesn't change color, though!
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That being said though, I am right and you are wrong.
I wonder how much difference there is between diamonds and rubies in hardness.
Also, wild coincidence if Ruby is her real name and she just happened to get ruby form as a power.
Especially since that seemed to be a big deal to Madrox for some reason.
Not a coincidence. Layla told Cyclops what to name her.
Did no one read the X-Factor Layla Miller special around here? Also, her powers manifested later.
Diamonds are about 5 times harder than Rubies according to the Mohs Scale of Hardness. That doesn't mean it is super tough. Just able to resist abrasion or scratching.
Hmm, probably read it, don't remember it.
He has two sons and two daughters: Nate Grey and Cable; Rachel and Ruby. Unless I'm missing another Summers kid and let's face it, there are Summers all over the Marvel universe.
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This means that when Glass thinks of his father, he imagines a man younger than he himself is. He talked briefly of how bizarre a feeling that is.
I imagine there's something similar for a character like Cable: he's known Cyclops as his father (for years, as Slim) and as an adult (i.e. after Cable came to the 'present') but Cyclops is still younger by decades than Cable is. As a result, Cable has never known his father as a man as old as he himself is.
That's a nice scene. When did Cable have that type of speaking pattern with the Italian flair?
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When's the final issue supposed to it? I figure it'll be out as a hardcover lickety-split afterwards.
"Hey man, that Canada is hardcore, they took this one guy and gave him metal claws, and he travels around the world and knows everyone at the most opportune times! It's like he has all these past things that can be called up for plot devices later on, don't mess with the American Denmark."
It wasn't clear at all, but the little character files bit at the end gives it away.
And I'm almost always right.
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Niceiza did such a good job dealing with 2 characters that were messed with by editorial mandates and getting them to 50 issues.
And this is why I said earlier in the threat that some villains have become storylines-in-themselves rather than actual characters. Every few years they come back and re-enact the same story again with a couple minor adjustments. I've developed a kind of gag-reflex to Apocalypse, Sinister, and Stryfe. It's like being force-fed crazy pills.
When I first read that book (and specifically, those exact issues you mentioned), I was so blown away by how he had actually made Cable into a well-developed, respectable character and removed most of the bullshit from him.
I haven't read any of the new Cable, but I can only assume most of that stuff is out the window now.
Didn't Scott pretty much think of him as a son though?
or was it the other way round, with Nate thinking of Scott as a father while he's all "Wait who are you"
I thought Kang was a benevolent dictator, i.e. his people lived in a dictatorship, but a 'happy' one (as opposed to a dystopia like we're talking about).
Cable has been pretty good in his own book, hasn't reverted anything. I think he's really grown even more, because he's basically been a father protecting his daughter from the worst things imaginable for 10 years.
As a Canadian, I should respond to this, but I'm too busy listening to VNV Nation and wondering where all the joy in my life went.
If that happened, then they may get to fit him into War of Kings as well!