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Persona 4: Relationships are the Devil.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Elendil wrote: »
    I got to the September trip last night. It was the greatest thing.
    Teddie pulling a Strega. Oh my god.

    Teddie: #3 gives me smooch. For the love of God, give me a girl...
    Kanji: Gyah!
    "I MEANT NUMBER 2!"

    Also it's odd Rise's Max Romantic Social Link status screen doesn't use the word girlfriend while both Chie's and Naoto's do.

    Furu on
  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    When the game explicitly said "you are already in another relationship" at the point Ai showed an interest(which is early), it sort of made me nervous.

    I already had Yukiko break up a Sunday date with her. I don't think Ai took kindly to being hit with Agilao.
    No that didn't happen, but it should've
    The competition's down! I must strike!

    "One swift strike."

    Yeah, the turning point with Ai really got to me as well.
    Yeah, she can be a total bitch...but saying those things about her. That's just low.

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  • RatmikeRatmike Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Monkeydrye wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Monkeydrye wrote: »
    Couple of curiousities I wanted to ask about this series.

    1) How accurate is this for everyday life of a modern Japanese HS kid?
    2) How much have they changed things between the Japanese and American versions? I have noticed a few places that seem like they left something out, or faded to black early.
    3) Whats the deal with the running kid? On days that you are going to school and they show a scene of you walking and either talking to a friend or listening to others, it always irises closed as someone runs by. Is that an in joke or just a coincidence?

    thanks for any anwsers you have :)

    1) Far as I know, school is life, and everything else comes second. If you don't score good grades on entrance exams and make it into a good college, nothing else matters. Attending college is more expected than optional in Japan, I think.

    2) Atlus always says they don't change anything. I guess that's just how they like closing scenes, i.e. 'you took so-and-so home'(I'm still not too fond of the game skipping events like that).

    3) Just someone who's always in a hurry, like in P3.

    Thanks for the info. As for #2, I just wondered if there might have been things they had to edit out for ratings reasons. Once scene comes to mind.
    All the gals are in the hot springs. And talking after they have pummeled the guys with buckets. As it ends, Chei makes a motion with no voice or dialogue and then all the girls laugh (this DOES have sound). I wondered if Chei made a comment that wouldn't be appropriate in the states but is less frowned upon in Japan.

    I remember an atlus poster on neogaf mentioning at least one scene they had to censor.

    First school trip spoilers.
    When Kanji busts in the boys tent and tries to stay there all night Youske makes some dumb comment about them losing their virginity to Kanji or something instead of "are we going to be safe" or whatever he says in the US version.

    Just a little thing, but I can kinda see why they'd tone it down.

    Ratmike on
  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Ms. Kashiwagi is so creepy

    So creepy

    Elendil on
  • mastriusmastrius Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Monkeydrye wrote: »
    Couple of curiousities I wanted to ask about this series.

    1) How accurate is this for everyday life of a modern Japanese HS kid?
    2) How much have they changed things between the Japanese and American versions? I have noticed a few places that seem like they left something out, or faded to black early.
    3) Whats the deal with the running kid? On days that you are going to school and they show a scene of you walking and either talking to a friend or listening to others, it always irises closed as someone runs by. Is that an in joke or just a coincidence?

    thanks for any anwsers you have :)

    1) All Japanese High Schoolers fight demons. Seriously.
    2) Im not sure...
    3) Hes the devil
    Yeah listen to CJ. I cant help but laugh when trying to compare this to real life.

    mastrius on
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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited December 2008
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    I actually felt bad when I turned down Yukiko since it's so incredibly clear she hasa crush on you and when you put her in the Friend Zone she's all "Oh...yeah...of course we're just friends! Hahaha...ha."

    So I made up for that by going with Rise, Chie, and Naoto.

    You, sir, are a true gentlemen.

    Ayane was hitting on me as I was screwing around and I remember going "oh hell no, bitch." She doesn't even freakin' look human. I was just hanging out with her for Sun's delicious Growth skills and the Expression bonuses.

    But yes, real men date the hell out of as many as possible. It's not like there's anything stopping you.

    Aroduc on
  • FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Is there any point in building the second model you get through the Hermit S-link #6?

    FunkyWaltDogg on
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Is there any point in building the second model you get through the Hermit S-link #6?
    Gives you diligence.

    Plus you get a big ol' model robot to display.

    Blackjack on
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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I'm not very far in - on my third trip I was able to make it up to the 8th floor of the first dungeon (hard mode). But I'm wondering if there's any way to hop back to the entrance without backtracking all the way through the dungeon?

    It lets me jump in to floor 5, but have I missed the way to jump back, or do I have to use that consumable? Right now I'm always turning back when my SP hits 1/3 or 1/4, 'cause I'll need that much just to make it out alive.

    Chance on
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  • FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Chance wrote: »
    I'm not very far in - on my third trip I was able to make it up to the 8th floor of the first dungeon (hard mode). But I'm wondering if there's any way to hop back to the entrance without backtracking all the way through the dungeon?

    It lets me jump in to floor 5, but have I missed the way to jump back, or do I have to use that consumable? Right now I'm always turning back when my SP hits 1/3 or 1/4, 'cause I'll need that much just to make it out alive.

    If you can make it up to 8, the save point before the boss will take you back for free.

    FunkyWaltDogg on
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Chance wrote: »
    I'm not very far in - on my third trip I was able to make it up to the 8th floor of the first dungeon (hard mode). But I'm wondering if there's any way to hop back to the entrance without backtracking all the way through the dungeon?

    It lets me jump in to floor 5, but have I missed the way to jump back, or do I have to use that consumable? Right now I'm always turning back when my SP hits 1/3 or 1/4, 'cause I'll need that much just to make it out alive.
    Just use a Goho-M. They're only, like, 900 yen

    Blackjack on
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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Chance wrote: »
    I'm not very far in - on my third trip I was able to make it up to the 8th floor of the first dungeon (hard mode). But I'm wondering if there's any way to hop back to the entrance without backtracking all the way through the dungeon?

    It lets me jump in to floor 5, but have I missed the way to jump back, or do I have to use that consumable? Right now I'm always turning back when my SP hits 1/3 or 1/4, 'cause I'll need that much just to make it out alive.
    Just use a Goho-M. They're only, like, 900 yen

    And once you get a certain party member you won't even need those.

    Furu on
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Furu wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Chance wrote: »
    I'm not very far in - on my third trip I was able to make it up to the 8th floor of the first dungeon (hard mode). But I'm wondering if there's any way to hop back to the entrance without backtracking all the way through the dungeon?

    It lets me jump in to floor 5, but have I missed the way to jump back, or do I have to use that consumable? Right now I'm always turning back when my SP hits 1/3 or 1/4, 'cause I'll need that much just to make it out alive.
    Just use a Goho-M. They're only, like, 900 yen

    And once you get a certain party member you won't even need those.
    You will if you don't use that person

    Blackjack on
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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Chance wrote: »
    I'm not very far in - on my third trip I was able to make it up to the 8th floor of the first dungeon (hard mode). But I'm wondering if there's any way to hop back to the entrance without backtracking all the way through the dungeon?

    It lets me jump in to floor 5, but have I missed the way to jump back, or do I have to use that consumable? Right now I'm always turning back when my SP hits 1/3 or 1/4, 'cause I'll need that much just to make it out alive.
    Just use a Goho-M. They're only, like, 900 yen

    And once you get a certain party member you won't even need those.
    You will if you don't use that person

    Oh right, I forgot you're you.

    Furu on
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Furu wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Chance wrote: »
    I'm not very far in - on my third trip I was able to make it up to the 8th floor of the first dungeon (hard mode). But I'm wondering if there's any way to hop back to the entrance without backtracking all the way through the dungeon?

    It lets me jump in to floor 5, but have I missed the way to jump back, or do I have to use that consumable? Right now I'm always turning back when my SP hits 1/3 or 1/4, 'cause I'll need that much just to make it out alive.
    Just use a Goho-M. They're only, like, 900 yen

    And once you get a certain party member you won't even need those.
    You will if you don't use that person

    Oh right, I forgot you're you.
    Man, not only is that person one of the most annoying characters in the game to me, everything he/she does, another character does better. There's NO reason for me to use him/her.

    Blackjack on
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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Chance wrote: »
    I'm not very far in - on my third trip I was able to make it up to the 8th floor of the first dungeon (hard mode). But I'm wondering if there's any way to hop back to the entrance without backtracking all the way through the dungeon?

    It lets me jump in to floor 5, but have I missed the way to jump back, or do I have to use that consumable? Right now I'm always turning back when my SP hits 1/3 or 1/4, 'cause I'll need that much just to make it out alive.
    Just use a Goho-M. They're only, like, 900 yen

    And once you get a certain party member you won't even need those.
    You will if you don't use that person

    Oh right, I forgot you're you.
    Man, not only is that person one of the most annoying characters in the game, everything he/she does, another character does better. There's NO reason for me to use him/her.

    I disagree with you on multiple levels!

    Furu on
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Furu wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Chance wrote: »
    I'm not very far in - on my third trip I was able to make it up to the 8th floor of the first dungeon (hard mode). But I'm wondering if there's any way to hop back to the entrance without backtracking all the way through the dungeon?

    It lets me jump in to floor 5, but have I missed the way to jump back, or do I have to use that consumable? Right now I'm always turning back when my SP hits 1/3 or 1/4, 'cause I'll need that much just to make it out alive.
    Just use a Goho-M. They're only, like, 900 yen

    And once you get a certain party member you won't even need those.
    You will if you don't use that person

    Oh right, I forgot you're you.
    Man, not only is that person one of the most annoying characters in the game, everything he/she does, another character does better. There's NO reason for me to use him/her.

    I disagree with you on multiple levels!
    But the squeaky walk ALONE is enough to drive a man insane! :lol:

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Okay that did take some getting used to, and occasionally it does still bother the fuck out of me.

    But I think he's a fun, amusing character with an interesting arc, and I like having a character that can heal, buff, and dish out damage. He's got a level of versatility no one else in the game comes close to beyond the main character.

    Plus using parties consisting entirely of characters I love despite how bad of an idea it is is more or less how I roll. It's why I brought Cait Sith against Sephiroth and why I did this game's equivalent with Naoto.

    Furu on
  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Cj, please capitalize the R in "relationships" for the thread title. It's all I can see.

    Gilder on
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Furu wrote: »
    Okay that did take some getting used to, and occasionally it does still bother the fuck out of me.

    But I think he's a fun, amusing character with an interesting arc, and I like having a character that can heal, buff, and dish out damage. He's got a level of versatility no one else in the game comes close to beyond the main character.

    Plus using parties consisting entirely of characters I love despite how bad of an idea it is is more or less how I roll. It's why I brought Cait Sith against Sephiroth and why I did this game's equivalent with Naoto.
    Another one I don't like! :P
    Though, to be fair, the VERY FEW times she did anything other than exposit, she wasn't too bad, and apparently her S.Link is okay too

    To be fair to the character we were discussing (BECAUSE WE'RE TOTALLY SUBTLE, no one knows who we're talking about :lol:), he wasn't AS BAD as I was expecting. He's still my least favorite character, but I was expecting to hate him with fiery passion, while in reality I just dislike him.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    That character hasn't left my group since I got him. Sure, he does everything that other team members can do, but that means I don't need to bring them.

    cj iwakura on
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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I love him so damn much

    Elendil on
  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited December 2008
    His S.Link badly lags behind everybody else's. That's reason enough to give him the boot.

    Aroduc on
  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    If nothing else it's nice to have someone else handle healing and buffing so you can free yourself up for constant Mind Charge/-dynes.

    Furu on
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    His Persona design's one of the worst, too.

    Aesthetics are important, you know.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Shame it doesn't actually use the cruise missile.

    cj iwakura on
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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited December 2008
    Why are we even spoiling this/talking mysteriously?

    Teddy Teddy Teddy.

    There, I spoiled that he's a playable.

    Oh wait, he's already in the gameplay OP.

    Aroduc on
  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Aroduc wrote: »
    Why are we even spoiling this/talking mysteriously?

    Teddy Teddy Teddy.

    There, I spoiled that he's a playable.

    Oh wait, he's already in the gameplay OP.

    All the cool kids were doing it!

    Furu on
  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Aroduc wrote: »
    Why are we even spoiling this/talking mysteriously?

    Teddy Teddy Teddy.

    There, I spoiled that he's a playable.

    Oh wait, he's already in the gameplay OP.
    Noooooo spoliers

    Elendil on
  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Come to think of it I've had this avatar for years.

    Someone hook me up with a Teddie one. I'll be ever so grateful.





    :winky:

    Furu on
  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    When the game explicitly said "you are already in another relationship" at the point Ai showed an interest(which is early), it sort of made me nervous.

    I already had Yukiko break up a Sunday date with her. I don't think Ai took kindly to being hit with Agilao.
    No that didn't happen, but it should've
    The competition's down! I must strike!

    Aside from Naoto, I maxed all the girl's links and took them all on as serious relationships...the one scene with Yukiko and Ai is scripted, and is the only one I saw in the entire game.

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  • DebaserZbsDebaserZbs Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    When the game explicitly said "you are already in another relationship" at the point Ai showed an interest(which is early), it sort of made me nervous.

    I already had Yukiko break up a Sunday date with her. I don't think Ai took kindly to being hit with Agilao.
    No that didn't happen, but it should've
    The competition's down! I must strike!

    Aside from Naoto, I maxed all the girl's links and took them all on as serious relationships...the one scene with Yukiko and Ai is scripted, and is the only one I saw in the entire game.

    I really wanted to take the time to max out Naoto's social link. Unfortunately by the time I had enough courage and knowledge to actually begin his social link, I was already in December... :|

    It's a shame because he's definitely one of my favorite characters and the one that I wanted to actually max out.

    I've got him up to rank 3 or 4, but there's no way I can balance maxing out his s. link in the week's worth of game time I have left...

    DebaserZbs on
  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    So I went to Best Buy earlier today, and to my dismay and horror, there was no Persona on the shelves. Shouldn't this be a bit more common? Or p3? Cos I stilll need to play that too.

    Mortal Sky on
  • JeanJean Heartbroken papa bear Gatineau, QuébecRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    For the S Links i'm so fucked, I'm in mid Sept and I only maxed 3 ( Yukiko, Chie and the nurse). My courage is maxed tough and the other stats are at LV4, so I guess that's something playing in my favour.

    Jean on
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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Gah, switching between Persona for the Kanji fight sucks. I have to use either Rakshasa or Principality to survive. Grr.

    Zephyr_Fate on
  • Radikal_DreamerRadikal_Dreamer Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Mortal Sky wrote: »
    So I went to Best Buy earlier today, and to my dismay and horror, there was no Persona on the shelves. Shouldn't this be a bit more common? Or p3? Cos I stilll need to play that too.

    Perhaps that's a good sign. Means more people are buying it, I guess. I mean it should be common, but I know when I picked mine up on the first day the Gamestop guys were really surprised at how many they sold that day.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Jean wrote: »
    For the S Links i'm so fucked, I'm in mid Sept and I only maxed 3 ( Yukiko, Chie and the nurse). My courage is maxed tough and the other stats are at LV4, so I guess that's something playing in my favour.
    I've only maxed one so far. Still, I'm not immensely concerned. Most of mine are hovering at around six.

    Elendil on
  • animaleanimale Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Random question about 2nd play through, I know you keep the compendium but are the personas at the level you last saved them at or do they go back to their default levels (ie. Pixie at lv2 instead of 6 or whatever)?

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited December 2008
    Elendil wrote: »
    Jean wrote: »
    For the S Links i'm so fucked, I'm in mid Sept and I only maxed 3 ( Yukiko, Chie and the nurse). My courage is maxed tough and the other stats are at LV4, so I guess that's something playing in my favour.
    I've only maxed one so far. Still, I'm not immensely concerned. Most of mine are hovering at around six.

    The only one that's 'important' to max early if you're trying to max as many as possible is Hermit. Once you finish it, you can use the shrine like you used the FES shrine in order to boost whatever S.Link you want any day of the week. You can still max them without ever doing that without too much trouble, but just make sure to get the party's done first, for more reasons than the obvious ones.

    Aroduc on
  • JeanJean Heartbroken papa bear Gatineau, QuébecRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Yeah I definitively need to LV up Yosuke and Rise S Links. Which days are they avaible?

    Jean on
    "You won't destroy us, You won't destroy our democracy. We are a small but proud nation. No one can bomb us to silence. No one can scare us from being Norway. This evening and tonight, we'll take care of each other. That's what we do best when attacked'' - Jens Stoltenberg
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