Wow, since when have you guys become such fucktards?
After the 15th time you see someone bitching because of the lack of heals because when you have run out of AP trying to keep everyone up and the sorcs keep blowing themselves up and hey, the entire team just IGNORED the witch hunter who is killing us and dear god tanks, can you throw a guard on us for fucks sake and I can keep track of everyone's health why the hell can't you take a look around when you see our health dropping you get a little fucking tired of people bitching that THEY are not your sole focus.
"nice healing jackass"
"i was healing you, but now i am afraid that this will no longer be the case."
also i stopped healing people that rolled on loot i wanted
After the 15th time you see someone bitching because of the lack of heals because when you have run out of AP trying to keep everyone up and the sorcs keep blowing themselves up and hey, the entire team just IGNORED the witch hunter who is killing us and dear god tanks, can you throw a guard on us for fucks sake and I can keep track of everyone's health why the hell can't you take a look around when you see our health dropping you get a little fucking tired of people bitching that THEY are not your sole focus.
Also this, a thousand times this.
Even more annoying are the DPS classes that want zealots/rune priests to stop healing to drop an AP ritual in the middle of a fight. These are usually the same ones that bitch if you don't heal them.
Heh, when I was playing my shaman alt over the weekend, some Squig Herder was bitching about not getting heals. I looked for him, and couldn't see him on my meters. Turns out he had decided that the whole group sucked (despite the fact we were winning) and so had left his scenario group, depriving everyone of even seeing his health bar.
Later I just /waved at him and walked away as a lone sword master chipped him down.
I have to say though, I've done an unfortunately high number of Tor Arnocs where the PuG healers just leave my blorc to die, despite me sitting unmolested at the back holding the stupid ball. If I'm lucky, some WE will listen to my desperate /sc cries and come pick it up :-/
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Nothing is more infuriating than holding a murder ball or some other scenario item and being virtually ignored by your healers.
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KlykaDO you have anySPARE BATTERIES?Registered Userregular
edited October 2008
I don't bitch about heals.
I never tell any healer he should "heal more".
I just said that jumping is secret language for "i am out of health,please heal me or I will die, please heal me, please."
Seriously,you people playing healers need to stop being so easily riled up,it's a game,no one really cares what you do.
If what I wrote did sound agressive, I'm sorry,it wasn't my intention.
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Innervate is totally overpowered. I will so let someone die and rez them later to get another innervate out.
It's only overpowered for Order. The rune priest one procs off anything, attacks or heals. The zealot one only procs off attacks. Where's that fist shakin icon when I need it?
You do understand that jumping around actually makes it harder to click on you, right? I know this is a difficult concept for someone that plays a maurader, which means you probably just roll your face around on your keyboard, furiously mashing whichever buttons you can.
I hate stealing heals as a sorc, but I don't have many options. We've got the double whammy of being a priority target (if Order has a brain, which isn't always) and hurting ourselves to put out our damage. I wish there were a more reliable source of healing pots for me.
Are there any animals that consistently butcher into healing or resto pots? Seeds are, as always, an absolute crapshoot.
If you're having trouble targeting people, get that click targeting mod on Curse. It has helped me some.
I would really like a way to set left click to hostiles and right to friendlies, that would help me click through the tanks and MPDS and hit their tanks.
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edited October 2008
Ok sorry, did I accidently get into the WoW forum?
Because that's usually the place where you read that one class is just "mashing 3 buttons" or the other class is just "looking at some bars and clicks from time to time".
Seriously, it's ok, we get it.
I'm sorry for saying something involving healers.
Ok sorry, did I accidently get into the WoW forum?
Because that's usually the place where you read that one class is just "mashing 3 buttons" or the other class is just "looking at some bars and clicks from time to time".
Seriously, it's ok, we get it.
I'm sorry for saying something involving healers.
I just said that jumping is secret language for "i am out of health,please heal me or I will die, please heal me, please."
Seriously,you people playing healers need to stop being so easily riled up,it's a game,no one really cares what you do.
If what I wrote did sound agressive, I'm sorry,it wasn't my intention.
WAR friends again?
I care what healers do! I love them so much and try really hard to help them stay alive. Sometimes it works, most of the time it doesn't, but that doesn't matter. What does matter is I love healers and I try my best to protect the. They sometimes give out free crack, but make you pay for seconds.
Also being passive aggressive is being aggressive but passively.
Thank god my Warrior Priest isn't a healer. He's a hybrid. He gets 80 Miles to the Gallon.
that's no healer...it's a tank!
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FairchildRabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?"Registered Userregular
edited October 2008
I'd suggest running a Ranged DPS class like Squig Hunter, where you never receive heals but never expect to receive them, either, so you are overjoyed when you do get one but not terribly disappointed when you don't. You're on your own, bub.
I'd suggest running a Ranged DPS class like Squig Hunter, where you never receive heals but never expect to receive them, either, so you are overjoyed when you do get one but not terribly disappointed when you don't. You're on your own, bub.
Innervate is totally overpowered. I will so let someone die and rez them later to get another innervate out.
It's only overpowered for Order. The rune priest one procs off anything, attacks or heals. The zealot one only procs off attacks. Where's that fist shakin icon when I need it?
Are you kidding me? The order one procs off heals? hoojabjoaidsjf;laksdf.
I just assumed that since the rune priest and zealot actually had similar masteries, that they would actually be balanced, but I guess not.
EDIT: I'm having my guild reroll order ASAP. Vastly more powerful abilities + instant queue times? I see no downside to this.
EDIT 2: If you're playing a rune priest, does it proc off of individual hits from the AE heal? If it does I'm going to cry a little and probably cut myself.
I have to say though, I've done an unfortunately high number of Tor Arnocs where the PuG healers just leave my blorc to die, despite me sitting unmolested at the back holding the stupid ball. If I'm lucky, some WE will listen to my desperate /sc cries and come pick it up :-/
PUG healers can be rather useless in general. I was trying to take a Nordenwatch flag as a WH with a PUG Runepriest in tow, versus one Destruction player at the flag. On one hand he was just too strong and damaging me faster than I could kill him, on the other I don't recall getting any heals from the Runepriest; I've played situations like that on my WP and gone to town with the direct heals and HoTs, it's not hard to support one person, whether tank or DPSer.
I'm finding random games with Order a lot more zergy than Destruction. And bitchy. I had a conversation go like this:
(several lines of bitching coming from the pile of people rushing to the front line formed right before the bridge, complaining about people not playing right)
*Barracks has been captured by the forces of Order*
ME: It helps if everyone doesn't keep zerging the same spot
Some smartass: So you're busy typing instead of playing?
ME: I was the one busy capturing the rax.
*Fortress has been captured by the forces of Order*
ME: And fort.
It's really a whole different game on that side, much more offensive when things go right and very stalemated when it's bad. Destruction pretty much just has to hold ground at the right places (at the flags, not the paths in between them), and gather themselves for heavy pushes to recapture flags. We only avoided huge losses when I was playing on Averheim last night from 2-3-man teams taking the barracks and fortress while Destro was pushing towards the lighthouse, forcing them to scatter and retake each flag we took in a cycle.
You know what the really dumb and irritating thing is? Those assholes running into the zerg, doing some damage, and dying are earning more XP/renown than you are by going around and capping flags.
You know what the really dumb and irritating thing is? Those assholes running into the zerg, doing some damage, and dying are earning more XP/renown than you are by going around and capping flags.
I was definitely topping the renown chart, although it only meant about 120 points in those games.
You know what the really dumb and irritating thing is? Those assholes running into the zerg, doing some damage, and dying are earning more XP/renown than you are by going around and capping flags.
Yeah, gotta love getting 300 renown for protecting the ball in Tor all map with my zealot friend. Putting myself at significantly more risk by running up to max range and chucking axes at each target doubles my renown easily but is a stupid move from a tactical PoV. Most games I end up with less renown from a victory than most of order got from a loss :-/
On the rare games I don't end up with the ball and get to play more offensively, its much much better.
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You know what the really dumb and irritating thing is? Those assholes running into the zerg, doing some damage, and dying are earning more XP/renown than you are by going around and capping flags.
My group has made a very cathartic discovery RE: flags/balls/shit that's important for the scenario. It's actually more effective over time, even as a group, to play recklessly even to the point of occasionally ignoring objectives altogether. We found that, specifically in Tor lavaroc, that we could easily wind up with a 500/100 or better game every time by grabbing the Thingy and hoofing it back to our cave for an easy defense. That surely won games every time, but we'd end up with very flat amounts of renown/xp, since the order players would just stop playing altogether as soon as they saw the kind of juggernaut they'd be up against if they left their safe little hole, and, ultimately, they'd just stop queueing altogether.
Once we started grabbing the Thingy, and holding it in stupid places like on the narrow land bridges between the lava lakes, we ended up with a much more competitive game with a ton more action every time. Suddenly the cave guys would come out in search of a lucky knockback kill, we'd end up with a ton more xp/renown at the end of the match, and so did all the order guys. We found it especially effective to let them grab the Thingy, and then just kill their front line without ever making a run for the Thingy carrier, doing that really seemed to get the order out of their hole and actively defending, which, in turn, made for a better game all around.
Sure the games ended up being more like 500/300, and we even lost a couple doing it that way, but even the losses all netted 14k+ xp a round, but there was a noticeable difference in queue times after we started playing like that, and it was a lot more fun for everybody involved when you're actually fighting rather than sitting around waiting for an assault to mount.
Yeah, gotta love getting 300 renown for protecting the ball in Tor all map with my zealot friend. Putting myself at significantly more risk by running up to max range and chucking axes at each target doubles my renown easily but is a stupid move from a tactical PoV. Most games I end up with less renown from a victory than most of order got from a loss :-/
For some reason, the bonus renown you get at the end of a scenario is not added to the total you see on the board. For a full 500 point win in T3, you get 600 renown tacked on to whatever the scoreboard says, so it's not nearly as huge a disparity as it seems.
it annoys me when people just run it back to the spawn....we get absolutely no xp/renown, and if we ever lose it for some reason we're screwed because we're nowhere near the middle to pick it back up....not to mention it messes up any hopes of AOE'ing the other team to death because they're able to be so spread out
Yeah. I like the Mourkain's much better when we get the artifact and just press the attack. Even if we eventually lose it, we'll build up so much of a lead that we win anyways, and it's more fun.
That's more a flaw with the maps -- ideally the team with the passive point generation advantage should have a spawn disadvantage. Either the spawn areas in Tor Arnoc need to be more treacherous, or they need to split spawn areas so that you can't rely on people constantly streaming in (say, three spawn zones where you'll pop up randomly if you die). Spawns have been a problem for me throughout all of T2 and T3, hopefully they'll be better in T4.
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I have learned a new phrase today.
After the 15th time you see someone bitching because of the lack of heals because when you have run out of AP trying to keep everyone up and the sorcs keep blowing themselves up and hey, the entire team just IGNORED the witch hunter who is killing us and dear god tanks, can you throw a guard on us for fucks sake and I can keep track of everyone's health why the hell can't you take a look around when you see our health dropping you get a little fucking tired of people bitching that THEY are not your sole focus.
"i was healing you, but now i am afraid that this will no longer be the case."
also i stopped healing people that rolled on loot i wanted
because i could
It is pretty handy how smite generates fury regardless of whether or not it hits someone, though.
And the hunters.
Next time he pulled I just let him die and sent him a message back saying "this is why you dont mess with your healers."
Thank god my Warrior Priest isn't a healer. He's a hybrid. He gets 80 Miles to the Gallon.
We've always been fucktards. You just riled everyone up when you implied that healers are 'lazy fucks' for not healing your worthless ass.
Also this, a thousand times this.
Even more annoying are the DPS classes that want zealots/rune priests to stop healing to drop an AP ritual in the middle of a fight. These are usually the same ones that bitch if you don't heal them.
Later I just /waved at him and walked away as a lone sword master chipped him down.
I have to say though, I've done an unfortunately high number of Tor Arnocs where the PuG healers just leave my blorc to die, despite me sitting unmolested at the back holding the stupid ball. If I'm lucky, some WE will listen to my desperate /sc cries and come pick it up :-/
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I never tell any healer he should "heal more".
I just said that jumping is secret language for "i am out of health,please heal me or I will die, please heal me, please."
Seriously,you people playing healers need to stop being so easily riled up,it's a game,no one really cares what you do.
If what I wrote did sound agressive, I'm sorry,it wasn't my intention.
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It's only overpowered for Order. The rune priest one procs off anything, attacks or heals. The zealot one only procs off attacks. Where's that fist shakin icon when I need it?
To the EXTREME.
Are there any animals that consistently butcher into healing or resto pots? Seeds are, as always, an absolute crapshoot.
I would really like a way to set left click to hostiles and right to friendlies, that would help me click through the tanks and MPDS and hit their tanks.
Because that's usually the place where you read that one class is just "mashing 3 buttons" or the other class is just "looking at some bars and clicks from time to time".
Seriously, it's ok, we get it.
I'm sorry for saying something involving healers.
You should be sorry.
I care what healers do! I love them so much and try really hard to help them stay alive. Sometimes it works, most of the time it doesn't, but that doesn't matter. What does matter is I love healers and I try my best to protect the. They sometimes give out free crack, but make you pay for seconds.
Also being passive aggressive is being aggressive but passively.
that's no healer...it's a tank!
I have a rank 7 squig herder.
I love him.
Are you kidding me? The order one procs off heals? hoojabjoaidsjf;laksdf.
I just assumed that since the rune priest and zealot actually had similar masteries, that they would actually be balanced, but I guess not.
EDIT: I'm having my guild reroll order ASAP. Vastly more powerful abilities + instant queue times? I see no downside to this.
EDIT 2: If you're playing a rune priest, does it proc off of individual hits from the AE heal? If it does I'm going to cry a little and probably cut myself.
PUG healers can be rather useless in general. I was trying to take a Nordenwatch flag as a WH with a PUG Runepriest in tow, versus one Destruction player at the flag. On one hand he was just too strong and damaging me faster than I could kill him, on the other I don't recall getting any heals from the Runepriest; I've played situations like that on my WP and gone to town with the direct heals and HoTs, it's not hard to support one person, whether tank or DPSer.
I'm finding random games with Order a lot more zergy than Destruction. And bitchy. I had a conversation go like this:
It's really a whole different game on that side, much more offensive when things go right and very stalemated when it's bad. Destruction pretty much just has to hold ground at the right places (at the flags, not the paths in between them), and gather themselves for heavy pushes to recapture flags. We only avoided huge losses when I was playing on Averheim last night from 2-3-man teams taking the barracks and fortress while Destro was pushing towards the lighthouse, forcing them to scatter and retake each flag we took in a cycle.
my 27 runepriest is named Badhealer
I was definitely topping the renown chart, although it only meant about 120 points in those games.
Yeah, gotta love getting 300 renown for protecting the ball in Tor all map with my zealot friend. Putting myself at significantly more risk by running up to max range and chucking axes at each target doubles my renown easily but is a stupid move from a tactical PoV. Most games I end up with less renown from a victory than most of order got from a loss :-/
On the rare games I don't end up with the ball and get to play more offensively, its much much better.
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My group has made a very cathartic discovery RE: flags/balls/shit that's important for the scenario. It's actually more effective over time, even as a group, to play recklessly even to the point of occasionally ignoring objectives altogether. We found that, specifically in Tor lavaroc, that we could easily wind up with a 500/100 or better game every time by grabbing the Thingy and hoofing it back to our cave for an easy defense. That surely won games every time, but we'd end up with very flat amounts of renown/xp, since the order players would just stop playing altogether as soon as they saw the kind of juggernaut they'd be up against if they left their safe little hole, and, ultimately, they'd just stop queueing altogether.
Once we started grabbing the Thingy, and holding it in stupid places like on the narrow land bridges between the lava lakes, we ended up with a much more competitive game with a ton more action every time. Suddenly the cave guys would come out in search of a lucky knockback kill, we'd end up with a ton more xp/renown at the end of the match, and so did all the order guys. We found it especially effective to let them grab the Thingy, and then just kill their front line without ever making a run for the Thingy carrier, doing that really seemed to get the order out of their hole and actively defending, which, in turn, made for a better game all around.
Sure the games ended up being more like 500/300, and we even lost a couple doing it that way, but even the losses all netted 14k+ xp a round, but there was a noticeable difference in queue times after we started playing like that, and it was a lot more fun for everybody involved when you're actually fighting rather than sitting around waiting for an assault to mount.
For some reason, the bonus renown you get at the end of a scenario is not added to the total you see on the board. For a full 500 point win in T3, you get 600 renown tacked on to whatever the scoreboard says, so it's not nearly as huge a disparity as it seems.
the distribution still kind of sucks though
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