System Shock 2 is a complete rip off of Bioshock!

Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
edited October 2008 in Games and Technology
Well, I just finished Bioshock and after the lackluster ending (it was like a Studio Ghibli movie, all crazy, things going nuts and then OMFG END NOW CREDITS THANKS!) I decided to move onto System Shock 2, which I heard was a similar game.

I have only played about 40 minuted of SS2 but so far it is a total rip off of Bioshock.

Lets looks at how this game rips off Bioshock, except with crappier graphics.

Emails: Bioshock did it with class with old tape recorders. System Shock 2 has deicided that things need to be all advanced and instead use "e"mail to convey what is going on behind the scenes.

Psi Ops (or something equally as stupid) as Plasmids: What the hell. While Bioshock went on to make its name for itself with psychic powers System Shock 2 does the same thing and even goes as far to make the graphics look the same with your character holding a little ball in front of it that is used of this game's version of plasmids.

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These guys have no shame.


Ghosts.

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That's right, just like Bioshock told us part of the backstory with ghosts scattered throughout Rapture SS2 does the same damn thing with spooks inside of a space ship. Gee wiz, more of this wow future stuff.

I have also discovered that they game has turrets, hacking stuff, security cameras that use the same color scheme as Bioshock (red for looking, green for not), different kinds of ammo (I laughed out loud when I saw that guns has the same ammo types as Bioshock), and even a wrench as the first weapon you find in the game.

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Ugh.

Where is the legal system when you need it? This is plagiarism at it's worst. It's like they didn't have the budget of Bioshock and instead made a crappy looking port with a few extra "RPG" elements and "character creation options" to try to distinguish itself from it's big daddy (lolrz?).

Anyway, I guess I will keep playing to see just how far this rabbit hole goes. Mainly out of disgust though, not because I have some kind of respect for SS2, I just want to see how much they really did leech off of Bioshock and try to make it into something "deeper". Hell, the game doesn't even have Vitachambers, the developers expect me to die and reload a save game? F that noise.

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  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Not exactly sure where you intend for this thread to go, but I like the cut of your jib. Carry on.

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  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    This thread's funny. It's funny right? That's all satire or sarcasm I'm sure.

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Doesn't SS2 have an inventory system? BioShock doesn't have an inventory system.

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  • Ramen NoodleRamen Noodle whoa, god has a picture of me! Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I hope to God you're being sarcastic.

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  • Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Peewi wrote: »
    Doesn't SS2 have an inventory system? BioShock doesn't have an inventory system.

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    That's just a way to distinguish itself for having the graphics that it has, it needs something more than just 720p like Bioshock. It's like they dont have the memory that Bioshock had. in Bioshock you could hold everything you wanted and not have to worry about inventory management. In SS2 its like they put it in to make you think you were doing something clever but instead it's simply them not being able to fully utilize the gigs and gigs of memory that todays gaming systems have to offer.

    So anyway, I just played a litte more and put a few more things together.

    The game starts off in a Medical Center. Remind anyone of anything? That's right, Bioshock did it first.

    Then I also take back my comment about the Vitachambers. System Shock 2 does the same thing, except they are called Bioreconstructive Centers, or some other BS, I can't remember, I am going to go alt+tab back in and futz around some more to see what I can come up with.

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  • AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I don't know if this is just beautiful satire or one of the best attempts at trolling I've seen in a long time.

    I'm so confused.

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  • FoodFood Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    If you think this game's bad, wait until you play the sequel System Shock 1. Man, that's a terrible game.

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  • wasted pixelswasted pixels Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Aegeri wrote: »
    I don't know if this is just beautiful satire or one of the best attempts at trolling I've seen in a long time.

    I'm so confused.

    I couldn't believe anyone was even flirting with the notion of taking this seriously. Then I read his blog, and now I'm as puzzled as anyone. :D

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  • SimbelmyneSimbelmyne Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    System Shock 2 is a complete rip off of Bioshock!

    I can sympathize completely. I felt the exact same rush of shock and disbelief recently when playing Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning. I couldn't believe how blatantly they had ripped off World of Warcraft, it was shameful.

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  • EvangirEvangir Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I quite agree with the OP. Shameful work by the developer! Lord Jezo, in the interests of safe disposal of such blatant plagiarism, you should send your copy of System Shock 2 to me. I have ways of getting rid of such filth!

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I don't know.. this kind of funny is getting old fast.

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  • DaemonionDaemonion Mountain Man USARegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Whoooo boy.

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  • His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Anyone who thought this was serious for even a second should be put down.

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  • ThetherooThetheroo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    What?

    I don't know whether to report this for awesome or for trolling.

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  • freakish lightfreakish light butterdick jones and his heavenly asshole machineRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Even as a joke post, this hurts me in a deep and fundamental way.
    D:

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  • Shorn Scrotum ManShorn Scrotum Man Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hahaha, awesome op. The only people who could be 'trolled' by this are god damned retards, so I'm gonna say it was meant to be funny.

    Which it is!

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  • ArcticMonkeyArcticMonkey Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Aegeri wrote: »
    I don't know if this is just beautiful satire or one of the best attempts at trolling I've seen in a long time.

    I'm so confused.
    It's beautiful satire of trolling?

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    i am enjoying this lets play.

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  • TVs_FrankTVs_Frank Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The only thing I missed in Bioshock was how research worked. Screw that annoying camera. I want to research strange organs and be given cool explanations of the enemies. SS2 is still superior though. I bow to it's greatness. Or something like that.

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  • arod_77arod_77 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    Well this is dumb

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I hope to God you're being sarcastic.

    totally. fucking. serious.

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  • AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Aegeri wrote: »
    I don't know if this is just beautiful satire or one of the best attempts at trolling I've seen in a long time.

    I'm so confused.
    It's beautiful satire of trolling?

    The new and improved third option: both.

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  • ExoVarkExoVark Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    At what point does something stop being a rip-off of something else and start being an improvement of an old formula?

    Looking Glass wasn't trying to rip it off, they just saw Bioshock and said, "Well, this is kinda cool, but it would be better if it had, say, armor-piercing bullets that actually did damage against armored opponents. Boy I really fucking hated that about Bioshock." The first thing they did was churn out a quick tech demo called Doom 3, just to get their feet wet and get a better look at the problems they would realistically face.

    It's the same engine, too, if you look closely. System Shock 2 is just Doom 3 with tighter graphics and DBZ powers.

    About the Bio-reconstruction devices, that was a conscious effort to cater to tournament-minded players who only wanted to have to camp one spawn point during death-matches.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    "The first is original, the second is borrowing, the third is creating a genre."

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  • ZhaosukeZhaosuke Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Satire ftw

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  • PatboyXPatboyX Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I really wish I could find the "black superman" thread you started to compliment this one.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    You just hate SHODAN because she's black.

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  • ImpersonatorImpersonator Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I hope to God you're being sarcastic.

    totally. fucking. serious.

    :lol:

    Anyway, this thread is amazing :D

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Is 2k not entitled to the sweat of their brow?

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  • thisismyusernamethisismyusername Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    no, says the man on the PA forums.

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  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    It belongs to the WANG.

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    ExoVark wrote: »
    At what point does something stop being a rip-off of something else and start being an improvement of an old formula?

    Looking Glass wasn't trying to rip it off, they just saw Bioshock and said, "Well, this is kinda cool, but it would be better if it had, say, armor-piercing bullets that actually did damage against armored opponents. Boy I really fucking hated that about Bioshock." The first thing they did was churn out a quick tech demo called Doom 3, just to get their feet wet and get a better look at the problems they would realistically face.

    It's the same engine, too, if you look closely. System Shock 2 is just Doom 3 with tighter graphics and DBZ powers.

    About the Bio-reconstruction devices, that was a conscious effort to cater to tournament-minded players who only wanted to have to camp one spawn point during death-matches.

    The OP is great but this post made me laugh my fucking ass off. :^:

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    You just hate SHODAN because she's black.

    And green.

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  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    august wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    You just hate SHODAN because she's black.

    And green.

    She's just sick. Sick of racist bastards like you.

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Oh my god, I never connected it before this thread.

    Xerxes = Ryan

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I wish someone would just remake System Shock 2 (not Bioshock, System Shock 2)

    Because I never got to play it when it released and I think I'd have a lot of problems if I tried it now, particularly with the graphics

    But I'd really like to be scared by SHODAN and all that

    I just feel like I missed out

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  • JaramrJaramr Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So this is Lets Play System Shock 2 with double Satire?

    Awesome.

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  • ScrubletScrublet Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    This is both funny because the OP was awesome and sad because of all the hardcore-Bioshock-fan posts to come bitching about the OP.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Olivaw wrote: »
    I wish someone would just remake System Shock 2 (not Bioshock, System Shock 2)

    Because I never got to play it when it released and I think I'd have a lot of problems if I tried it now, particularly with the graphics

    But I'd really like to be scared by SHODAN and all that

    I just feel like I missed out

    There are some decent graphics mods out there now.

    And a widescreen hack.

    I mean it won't look amazing but hey.

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  • ExoVarkExoVark Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Jaramr wrote: »
    So this is Lets Play System Shock 2 with double Satire?

    Awesome.

    Actually it would have been interesting to see a Let's Play of SS2 from the perspective of a misinformed Bioshock fanboy, but it looks like he ran out of steam after the second post.

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