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The Art of War: We Put Paint on Bare Men

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited October 2008
    Jerick wrote: »
    So what are the differences between the vallejo paints and the GW ones, people tell me each one is better then the other.

    I swear by Vallejo paints. They're thinner and don't need to be watered down, and my experience with GW paints is that they turn into unusable goop fairly quickly.

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  • EinEin CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Echo wrote: »
    Jerick wrote: »
    So what are the differences between the vallejo paints and the GW ones, people tell me each one is better then the other.

    I swear by Vallejo paints. They're thinner and don't need to be watered down, and my experience with GW paints is that they turn into unusable goop fairly quickly.

    This is what I would have also said, had I posted first. The only exceptions I make are GW's washes, foundation paints, and boltgun metal, because Vallejo's metallics are pretty weak.

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  • NinjerNinjer Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I think I have some "Reaper" paints from my Warmachine guys... anyone know if these are good paints?

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  • the cheatthe cheat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    the cheat wrote: »
    Is there a place that has tutorials for specific models, or would that be ridiculous?

    There aren't really any places that have a collected resource, but google searches may give you some advice to a specific model. Also, the GW site itself has tutorials on how to paint some models.

    Here's their little list of painting tips and stuff. You might not find exactly what you're looking for, but each tutorial contains pretty much the same concepts.

    http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/articleCategory.jsp?community=&communityArticleCatId=600003&articleCatId=600003&catId=cat210004

    (if it asks you for your region, select the US.)

    Cool. But, man, it's a good thing you said that, I was about to choose Denmark!

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  • It BurnsIt Burns Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Ein wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    Jerick wrote: »
    So what are the differences between the vallejo paints and the GW ones, people tell me each one is better then the other.

    I swear by Vallejo paints. They're thinner and don't need to be watered down, and my experience with GW paints is that they turn into unusable goop fairly quickly.

    This is what I would have also said, had I posted first. The only exceptions I make are GW's washes, foundation paints, and boltgun metal, because Vallejo's metallics are pretty weak.

    I am a random dude, and I approve of this message.

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  • the cheatthe cheat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Sharp101 wrote: »
    Last time I was sick I was using my Death Guard in a big tournament.

    I also played in a tournament this saturday with them. I was really sick saturday...

    When I got my Nurgle tattoo, I had a cold for almost two months.

    I am blessed.

    that may be the nerdiest tattoo of all time.

    So that jurassic park thing in your sig got my hopes up. I thought perhaps a mod was released that allowed co-op or battle mode! I love that game, still.

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  • AlazullAlazull Your body is not a temple, it's an amusement park. Enjoy the ride.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So, here's my shit.

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    It's not great. The most recently painted is the BFSP cannon crew at the top. Most of it is experimental, as I'm still learning shading and highlighting. Any critiques.

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  • NiklasNiklas SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hey dudes, anyone have a good idea of a symbol I can paint on my ultramarine scouts shoulderpads? Except from the chapter "U", that is.

    Edit: oh, and Alazull; those dwrves are awesome, me like!

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Where does one even get vallejo paints?

    Edit: Apparently for scouts some of the symbols on their shoulders that have been used in the past are circles with their squad number in it or daggers.

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  • the cheatthe cheat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    those are spectacular, alazull

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  • NinjerNinjer Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    glorious dwarfening

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  • NiklasNiklas SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Squad numbers, of course.

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  • IanatorIanator A predator cannot differentiate between prey and accompliceRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Woohoo! Finally found my mom's camera! Now you can all partake of my awesome Trukk in all its fast-and-Morky glory!
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    Body shot.

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    Da krew.

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    Anybody have a spare Doom Siren? I'm going to use one as the grille on my next Trukk.

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    Da rusty deck. The kids love this one.
    It looks a lot better in person, but at least I can share it with the interwebz now.

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So, 13 of my marines are painted. To be fair, three of those were test runs, and turned out horrible beyond words. The others are probably salvageable.

    Went faster than expected, still. Only... 27 more, and five dreads, and three drop pods, and a master of the forge...

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Well, right now one of my dudes is floating in paint thinner. How long do they need to soak for the paint to come out anyway?

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  • AsherAsher Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Assuming he's metal, it can range from a few hours to overnight, depending on the paint you used. It should start to flake off fairly quickly, but leaving it overnight will produce better results.
    If he's plastic, he will just melt.

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  • EinEin CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I just dunk all my metal minis in acetone overnight, then grab a dremel with a brush tip and attack. They come out looking brand new.

    Plastics have to go in Simple Green, though.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    He's metal and I made sure to pop off the base first. I've got nine others but I didn't want to throw them in without first making sure that it would work. I'll go throw the rest in now though.

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  • IanatorIanator A predator cannot differentiate between prey and accompliceRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Man, having a camera is awesome! Spoiler'd are pics of my new Painboy and his orderly...
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    Da dok will see yoo now.

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    Just a li'l prik...

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    And we're ready to begin da operashun!

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    Git me da scissors, ya weedy grot!

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    I 'ope e's not tryin' to hide mah toolz...

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    ...Else I'll show 'im what's for!

    Now to continue with my Black Reach Nobz so he's got a krew to run with.

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  • mugginnsmugginns Jawsome Fresh CoastRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I'm not a very good painter but I've started painting my Blood Angels so I can feel good about not using a primer force. :P
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    I'm just going for basic colors, not a whole lot of stuff. Also I have to put bases on the dudes. The drop pod is such an awesome model but holy hell was it hard to put together. Also I'm missing the melta for my crusader... probably in a box. All my Warhammer FB and 40k stuff was put in a box when I went to college and my parents moved, so I'm lucky I found this stuff.

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  • leafleaf Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    You have the basics down - your models look really clean, only they're single colour paintjobs would benefit immensely if you learned to drybrush, and to work in colour scales - build up lighter shades over darker ones. Try it out if you feel adventurous, like I mentioned, your paintjob is very clean, and to me it looks like you're ready to start stepping it up.

    Anyways I need help, how on earth did they make these explosion thingies for the warmachine display table?

    I ask because I have a serious business sculpture for one of my classes coming up, and I really want to make some of these things for it, but I've got no clue on where to even begin.

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    And for the rest of my WM pictures from pax:
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    Tried my best with the pictures, their display case was really scratched and greased up from people. Plus awful lighting conditions, managed to negate as much of the reflection as I could though.

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Stepped in it Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    leaf wrote: »
    Anyways I need help, how on earth did they make these explosion thingies for the warmachine display table?
    It really looks like some kind of foam, and the way the explosions bubble really make me think of spraying a big dollop of shaving cream. Are there any air drying foams out there that dispense like shaving cream? I'd imagine you could also try asking PP directly.

    In other news, I've been making good progress on my Necron Pylon
    (no, not Ein's, MINE!)
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    I'm giving it three crystals, just to spiff things up. The third crystal will have a mount on the end of the arm, where all that extra wire is dangling. The mount will also conceal the ultra-bright LED that'll illumanate the last crystal. Each of the gauss flayers also has an LED inside of it, but I haven't wired them up yet.
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    Shot from the back, reminding me that I still need to put the lower central rods in.

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    Here's what the two crystals that run off of LED flashlights look like lit up:
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  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    They look like they're painted expandyfoam or something, maybe.

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  • leafleaf Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    You know that canned spray foam for sealing gaps in your house? I'm guessing they might have used that, I'm just trying to see if anyone like you or ein has given it a shot. Otherwise my best guess is to use "great stuff" or whatever rigid spray insulation I can find, and to use a wire armature in sections which is then glued together.

    It's not overly apparent in the photos, but as much as I was craning around the case, it looked like each one of those was a couple smaller pieces then glued together. You can kind of see what I mean in the first photo, between where the large explosion meets that small stem from the trail.

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  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So, where can I get a dremel other than a hobby shop? Can I head over to lowes?

    Edit: Nvm, I can. Damn these are a bit expensive though. Wonder if I can kill 2 birds with one stone and cut metal with it.

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  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So, where can I get a dremel other than a hobby shop? Can I head over to lowes?

    Edit: Nvm, I can. Damn these are a bit expensive though. Wonder if I can kill 2 birds with one stone and cut metal with it.

    Most people don't use REAL dremels, they use off-brand rotary tools. Lowes probably has a decent enough storebrand one, and they almost all use the official Dremel sizes for bits.

    EDIT: At least in general. I don't know if it's different in the miniature hobby.

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  • DampCatDampCat Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    It's that plumbing/gap sealing foam you mentioned. You really have to play around with it though.. it tends to expand a lot whilst drying. Also when it's hard you can file and sand that bad boy into pretty much anything. If you do file and sand it though, it leaves little perforations all over the surface, which is fine if you're making a model sponge or some kind of spherical Swiss Cheese, but you might need to use some form of filler to smooth it off. We get it here called Polyfiller, lord knows what you guys get though. It's just a lightweight plaster for walls or whatever.

    Edit:
    Just a thought, the perforations would probably look pretty good on a mushroom cloud or explosion, but just thought i'd throw it out there anyway.

    Just as a cheap and easy alternative too, we tend to make our explosions using Cotton Wool and PVA glue. Just pulling the wool into spikes and bubbles then coating it in PVA and left to go hard overnight. Once that happens, prime it black then drybrush the bollocks off of it. Looks quite nice and takes (not including overnight drying) about 10 minutes.

    Edit 2:
    I apologise if any of that was painfully obvious or condescending/patronising, i just like typing. Gives me somethign to do in the office and makes me look busy for a few minutes.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So, where can I get a dremel other than a hobby shop? Can I head over to lowes?

    Edit: Nvm, I can. Damn these are a bit expensive though. Wonder if I can kill 2 birds with one stone and cut metal with it.
    Yeah, any hardware shop should have some kind of rotary tool. Dremel or store brand, doesn't really matter. Higher priced models will generally have more functionality to them. Really the most important thing you want is speed control. Too fast and you might melt plastic, or send vital bitz to the far corners of your work space.

    You should be able to cut pretty much anything with it, so long as you have the correct bits. Most places that sell the tools should also sell a variety of spinny bits for the end to cut, polish, grind etc... for whatever you need.

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  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    see317 wrote: »
    So, where can I get a dremel other than a hobby shop? Can I head over to lowes?

    Edit: Nvm, I can. Damn these are a bit expensive though. Wonder if I can kill 2 birds with one stone and cut metal with it.
    Yeah, any hardware shop should have some kind of rotary tool. Dremel or store brand, doesn't really matter. Higher priced models will generally have more functionality to them. Really the most important thing you want is speed control. Too fast and you might melt plastic, or send vital bitz to the far corners of your work space.

    You should be able to cut pretty much anything with it, so long as you have the correct bits. Most places that sell the tools should also sell a variety of spinny bits for the end to cut, polish, grind etc... for whatever you need.

    Hell, I've seen gearboxes you can attach to turn the thing into a tiny jigsaw. And of course drill bits. Tiny, tiny drill bits. Your options are a crapload.

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  • stratslingerstratslinger Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Ahem. Blue dot, please.

    I''ve gotta agree about those 'splosions - as soon as I saw them, all I could think of was Great Stuff. I had to cut a ton of that stuff out of my garage (long story - had to fix a big mistake made by a previous homeowner...), and that's just how the stuff looks. I'd imagine that the sanded surface mentioned earlier shouldn't be a big deal to work around though - that's the part that gets glued down! ;)

    And also, I'm waffling on painting up my Black Reach Orks, so in the meantime I've done a little bit of terrain work. I'm working on some city ruins - 3 more 12" bases (already planned out) and I'll be all set for an alpha level cities of death match (s'pose I could do one now, just with 6" of nothing to two sides of my currently 4'x3' worth of ruins...

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    To be completely fair: two of the ruins (the GW cities of death kits) were done a year or two back. The other two ruins bases were assembled a couple months ago, then sat unpainted in my workshop for a while. All the road sections were done in the past couple weeks. I'm now just trying to decide whether my remaining three 12" bases should all be buildings of some sort (2 will definitely be intact military depot bases, intended to be used side-by-side to form a larger one, or on different corners of the table for separate depots) or if one will be a park/square/some other form of open area... I'm thinking that on a 4x4 table, 5-6 buildings/ruins should be pretty sufficient, right? I'll need some room to maneuver minis!

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  • DampCatDampCat Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Dude those are awesome! Looks really good.

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  • DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So, where can I get a dremel other than a hobby shop? Can I head over to lowes?

    Edit: Nvm, I can. Damn these are a bit expensive though. Wonder if I can kill 2 birds with one stone and cut metal with it.

    You shouldn't have much trouble with metal, although you might need some replacement bits for your new dremel. The dremel is really one of the greatest inventions of all time.

    They say you can build a house with a Dremel and a Hammer.

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  • stratslingerstratslinger Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    They say you can build a house with a Dremel and a Hammer.

    And LOADS of time... :P

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  • PierceNeckPierceNeck Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    In regards to that foam...

    Does anyone know of a clear type foam? The reason I ask is because, in those pictures, shadows would land on the explosion and make it dark. Much less explosiony in my opinion. So I was think if you could do the same thing with a clear/semi-clear foam or whatever, you could add in a light to give it a glow.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The explosions look like they were made from insulation foam.

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  • DampCatDampCat Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    PierceNeck wrote: »
    In regards to that foam...

    Does anyone know of a clear type foam? The reason I ask is because, in those pictures, shadows would land on the explosion and make it dark. Much less explosiony in my opinion. So I was think if you could do the same thing with a clear/semi-clear foam or whatever, you could add in a light to give it a glow.

    you could hollow it out then stick loads of holes in it.

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  • EinEin CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Actually, just to throw this in, I have sprayable expanding polyeurythane foam. When you spray it on something, it comes out looking just like that.

    Came from home depot, I believe.

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  • AlphariusAlpharius Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I must say those warmachine dioramas are beautiful

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  • WulfWulf Disciple of Tzeentch The Void... (New Jersey)Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
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    -[arlequin;7351352']I must say those warmachine dioramas are beautiful

    Games Workshop should do the Halo 3 treatment for an IG army fighting Tyranids or Tau or Chaos... With the huge diorama and the model's eye view and everything :P That would be sweet.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I've never seen Warjacks painted so slick, that's a nice diorama.

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