The American Presidency: Nashville!

Omeks

Sentry wrote: »

I think Coulter went on vay-kay after saying she'd Campaign for Hillary Clinton if mcCain got the nomination. She really, really hates McCain.

She's not a trooper like Limbaugh is. He hates the fuck out of McCain but the second he got the nomination "WOW! WHAT A GUY!" It's funny since McCain is running a campaign that I figured Coulter could really get behind.

psychotix

Qingu wrote: »

necroSYS wrote: »

Couscous wrote: »

I just got home. So the stock market, Obama can't lose barring hell freezing over?

I'm just wondering if he's going to be up to the Herculean task that's waiting for the next President. We're going to need another FDR to get out of this massive hole.

Options-trader gf points out that during the tech bubble burst, the market lost 50% of its value. So, might not be "OH SHIT" bad, just "oh shi—" bad.

Also, I'm no economist by a long shot, but isn't it a good thing that Obama wants to invest lots of money to create new green jobs and infrastructure? Isn't that the same kind of thing that dug us out of the Great Depression?

Yes government spending dug us out of the Great Depression. Which makes it rather funny when McCain rails against Obama for "spending and taxing during a recession because that's what caused the GD".

Tomanta

Æthelred wrote: »

NRO wrote:

During the presidential debate Tuesday night, Barack Obama was asked if he thought health care was a “right.”

He said he thought it was a right. Well, if you accept that premise, I think you can ask some logical follow-up questions: Food is more important than health care. You die pretty quickly without food. Do we have a “right” to food in America?

[..]

There’s a word for someone who has their food, housing and care provided for them… and that word is “slave.”

My head hurts now.

SyphonBrue

Qingu wrote: »

necroSYS wrote: »

Couscous wrote: »

I just got home. So the stock market, Obama can't lose barring hell freezing over?

I'm just wondering if he's going to be up to the Herculean task that's waiting for the next President. We're going to need another FDR to get out of this massive hole.

Options-trader gf points out that during the tech bubble burst, the market lost 50% of its value. So, might not be "OH SHIT" bad, just "oh shi—" bad.

Also, I'm no economist by a long shot, but isn't it a good thing that Obama wants to invest lots of money to create new green jobs and infrastructure? Isn't that the same kind of thing that dug us out of the Great Depression?

Well, there was also that little war.

kildy

That.. that's not a slave...

PantsB

Qingu wrote: »

necroSYS wrote: »

Couscous wrote: »

I just got home. So the stock market, Obama can't lose barring hell freezing over?

I'm just wondering if he's going to be up to the Herculean task that's waiting for the next President. We're going to need another FDR to get out of this massive hole.

Options-trader gf points out that during the tech bubble burst, the market lost 50% of its value. So, might not be "OH SHIT" bad, just "oh shi—" bad.

Also, I'm no economist by a long shot, but isn't it a good thing that Obama wants to invest lots of money to create new green jobs and infrastructure? Isn't that the same kind of thing that dug us out of the Great Depression?

The Dow has lost ~25% since Sept 1. The tech bubble didn't drop off that much until after 9/11 (it did on NASDAQ but not across all industries).

SyphonBrue

Sheep wrote: »

AngelHedgie wrote: »

Preacher wrote: »

Horrible joke about Sarah Palin you have been warned.

(spoiler full of stupid)

Yeah...let's not go there.

Oh it's already gone!

I laughed heartily at it.

Armored Gorilla

Æthelred wrote: »

NRO wrote:

During the presidential debate Tuesday night, Barack Obama was asked if he thought health care was a “right.”

He said he thought it was a right. Well, if you accept that premise, I think you can ask some logical follow-up questions: Food is more important than health care. You die pretty quickly without food. Do we have a “right” to food in America?

[...]

There’s a word for someone who has their food, housing and care provided for them… and that word is “slave.”

Stay classy, NRO.

psychotix

SyphonBrue wrote: »

Qingu wrote: »

necroSYS wrote: »

Couscous wrote: »

I just got home. So the stock market, Obama can't lose barring hell freezing over?

I'm just wondering if he's going to be up to the Herculean task that's waiting for the next President. We're going to need another FDR to get out of this massive hole.

Options-trader gf points out that during the tech bubble burst, the market lost 50% of its value. So, might not be "OH SHIT" bad, just "oh shi—" bad.

Also, I'm no economist by a long shot, but isn't it a good thing that Obama wants to invest lots of money to create new green jobs and infrastructure? Isn't that the same kind of thing that dug us out of the Great Depression?

Well, there was also that little war.

That helped as well, but the New Deal was also a driving force.

Tomanta

Politico writes:

James Hibberd reports:

Barack Obama has purchased a half-hour of airtime on CBS, sources confirm.

The Obama campaign will air a half-hour primetime special on Wednesday, Oct. 29, at 8 p.m.

Sources say the Obama camp is also near a deal with NBC and Fox. It’s not yet clear if an ad buy is locked on any other network, however, or if the duration or time period is the same.

Zoolander

Obama is buying 30 minutes of primetime TV on CBS, looking to other channels too.

Sentry

Omeks wrote: »

Sentry wrote: »

I think Coulter went on vay-kay after saying she'd Campaign for Hillary Clinton if mcCain got the nomination. She really, really hates McCain.

She's not a trooper like Limbaugh is. He hates the fuck out of McCain but the second he got the nomination "WOW! WHAT A GUY!" It's funny since McCain is running a campaign that I figured Coulter could really get behind.

gah... I never thought I'd be in a position to say that Coulter has more integrity then Rush.

Preacher

Tomanta wrote: »

Politico writes:

James Hibberd reports:

Barack Obama has purchased a half-hour of airtime on CBS, sources confirm.

The Obama campaign will air a half-hour primetime special on Wednesday, Oct. 29, at 8 p.m.

Sources say the Obama camp is also near a deal with NBC and Fox. It’s not yet clear if an ad buy is locked on any other network, however, or if the duration or time period is the same.

Something tells me a speech is in the works!

PantsB

Æthelred wrote: »

NRO wrote:

During the presidential debate Tuesday night, Barack Obama was asked if he thought health care was a “right.”

He said he thought it was a right. Well, if you accept that premise, I think you can ask some logical follow-up questions: Food is more important than health care. You die pretty quickly without food. Do we have a “right” to food in America?

[...]

There’s a word for someone who has their food, housing and care provided for them… and that word is “slave.”

Did NRO just call every member of the United States armed services a slave? I'm pretty sure he called Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin slaves too since they all receive housing and food stipends as well as health care.

Yall

Qingu wrote: »

necroSYS wrote: »

Couscous wrote: »

I just got home. So the stock market, Obama can't lose barring hell freezing over?

I'm just wondering if he's going to be up to the Herculean task that's waiting for the next President. We're going to need another FDR to get out of this massive hole.

Options-trader gf points out that during the tech bubble burst, the market lost 50% of its value. So, might not be "OH SHIT" bad, just "oh shi—" bad.

Also, I'm no economist by a long shot, but isn't it a good thing that Obama wants to invest lots of money to create new green jobs and infrastructure? Isn't that the same kind of thing that dug us out of the Great Depression?

Whudder-you? One o'these demon-crats what learns fromin the past?

Couscous

You die pretty quickly without food. Do we have a “right” to food in America?

Soup kitchens?

SyphonBrue

Preacher wrote: »

Tomanta wrote: »

Politico writes:

James Hibberd reports:

Barack Obama has purchased a half-hour of airtime on CBS, sources confirm.

The Obama campaign will air a half-hour primetime special on Wednesday, Oct. 29, at 8 p.m.

Sources say the Obama camp is also near a deal with NBC and Fox. It’s not yet clear if an ad buy is locked on any other network, however, or if the duration or time period is the same.

Something tells me a speech is in the works!

I called it!

Um....if it is a speech, anyway.

Rust

Armored Gorilla wrote: »

Æthelred wrote: »

NRO wrote:

During the presidential debate Tuesday night, Barack Obama was asked if he thought health care was a “right.”

He said he thought it was a right. Well, if you accept that premise, I think you can ask some logical follow-up questions: Food is more important than health care. You die pretty quickly without food. Do we have a “right” to food in America?

[...]

There’s a word for someone who has their food, housing and care provided for them… and that word is “slave.”

Stay classy, NRO.

MY PRECIOUS EYES

MY VIRGIN BRAIN

There has to be some sort of horizon on how wrong a human being can be.

Æthelred

Zoolander wrote: »

Obama is buying 30 minutes of primetime TV on CBS, looking to other channels too.

Was it reported in this thread that Obama is buying ad-space on MTV? 'cause he is. And on a couple of other channels that haven't had political ads before (MTV hasn't).

Thanatos

Æthelred wrote: »

NRO wrote:

During the presidential debate Tuesday night, Barack Obama was asked if he thought health care was a “right.”

He said he thought it was a right. Well, if you accept that premise, I think you can ask some logical follow-up questions: Food is more important than health care. You die pretty quickly without food. Do we have a “right” to food in America?

[...]

There’s a word for someone who has their food, housing and care provided for them… and that word is “slave.”

Yeah, just imagine if there were some sort of government program which supplied people with food...

It would be the end of democracy as we know it!

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jkylefulton

You die pretty quickly without food. Do we have a “right” to food in America?

I'm guessing NRO guy has never gone a day w/o food in his life. Fucking assholes.

ahava

I actually am gonna be voting for Collins.

Like I said, she hasn't done anything to hurt the state, and she's got the clout to do things.

and it's a shame that the eldest Palin daughter is pregnant..

At least, a shame for those of you with the playboy fantasies...

Screamline

Preacher wrote: »

Horrible joke about Sarah Palin you have been warned.

What's the difference between Sarah Palin's mouth and her vagina?

Only some of the things that come out of her vagina are retarded.

I feel horrible for laughing at that. You're a bad bad man (and so am I).

tsmvengy

Thanatos wrote: »

Æthelred wrote: »

NRO wrote:

During the presidential debate Tuesday night, Barack Obama was asked if he thought health care was a “right.”

He said he thought it was a right. Well, if you accept that premise, I think you can ask some logical follow-up questions: Food is more important than health care. You die pretty quickly without food. Do we have a “right” to food in America?

[...]

There’s a word for someone who has their food, housing and care provided for them… and that word is “slave.”

Yeah, just imagine if there were some sort of government program which supplied people with food...

It would be the end of democracy as we know it!

Some kind of stamps maybe!

SyphonBrue

Screamline wrote: »

Preacher wrote: »

Horrible joke about Sarah Palin you have been warned.

What's the difference between Sarah Palin's mouth and her vagina?

Only some of the things that come out of her vagina are retarded.

I feel horrible for laughing at that. You're a bad bad man (and so am I).

No, I'm not and neither are you. It's just a joke, and if you can't laugh at it then you need off your damned high horse.

Couscous

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

McCain's rough "town hall" debate just got a bit worse, as one questioner writes about the experience on his Facebook page:

How did I feel about Sen. McCain stating “You probably never heard of Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac before this"[?]

Well Senator, I actually did. I like to think of myself as a fairly intelligent person. I have a bachelor degree in Political Science from Tennessee State, so I try to keep myself up to date with current affairs. I have a Master degree in Legal Studies from Southern Illinois University, a few years in law school, and I am currently pursuing a Master in Public Administration from the University of Memphis. In defense of the Senator from Arizona I would say he is an older guy, and may have made an underestimation of my age. Honest mistake.
However, it could be because I am a young African-American male. Whatever the case may be it was somewhat condescending regardless of my age to make an assumption regarding whether I was knowledgeable about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Æthelred

I don't remember clearly, but wasn't McCain addressing the crowd when he said that?



_______________________________________________________
Barrack Obama: the real anti-science candidate
in which John Derbyshire gets back on his favourite, stupid black, hobbyhorse

John Derbyshire wrote:

Will Obama Kill Science?

[...]

… Which might be forthcoming in the event of an Obama victory. The younger generation of human-sciences enthusiasts trend conservative/libertarian, and Obama has them worried. For a glimpse of the kind of discussions that their fears generate, read through the recent thread on Gene Expression here. Samples:

some 'science' site wrote:

[Sarah] Palin is the most libertarian candidate to run since the Reagan administration … we’re fighting to hold territory, not to take it. We just need to hold off the left till genomics can come through. We’re going to be knocking off sacred cow after sacred cow in the next decade or so …

The Democrats do not want the genetic discoveries to lead to widespread knowledge about the truth about human differences. The Democrats are really more anti-Darwinian than the fundamentalist Christians who deny the origin of species …

We need to step very carefully as we as going up against the official state religion, namely PC, and until we reach critical mass we’ll be convicted in the media and go straight to the gulag rather than be afforded the benefit of a copes trial. [J]ust think of how many fedguv bureaucrats and NGOs owe their livelihoods to the axiom of equality … an Obama administration will passionately go after the heretics.

The Left’s restraints on science do not get publicized. Where’s the big research for IQ genes? Where’s the funding for that? Where’s the big research program for psychometrics? The Left strangled that very thoroughly.

[...]

We are about to find out whether our traditional devotion to free speech and free enquiry can survive real, incontrovertible results from the human sciences; and in particular, in the event of an Obama victory, whether that devotion can survive under a left-liberal administration headed by a cultural Marxist — an administration much more interested in shoring up the soft totalitarianism of “diversity” and “multiculturalism” than in permitting the discovery of true facts about human nature.

Couscous

The younger generation of human-sciences enthusiasts trend conservative/libertarian

!?

Burnage

So, this might be a stupid question, but it's one that's beginning to trouble me, particularly with the increasingly ugly tone of the campaign overall. If - worst case scenario, obviously - Obama is killed before the election, what happens? Does Biden take over as Democratic candidate? Does the election default to McCain? Does the Democratic party re-elect a presidential candidate?

psychotix

mcdermott wrote: »

PantsB wrote: »

Æthelred wrote: »

NRO wrote:

During the presidential debate Tuesday night, Barack Obama was asked if he thought health care was a “right.”

He said he thought it was a right. Well, if you accept that premise, I think you can ask some logical follow-up questions: Food is more important than health care. You die pretty quickly without food. Do we have a “right” to food in America?

[...]

There’s a word for someone who has their food, housing and care provided for them… and that word is “slave.”

Did NRO just call every member of the United States armed services a slave? I'm pretty sure he called Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin slaves too since they all receive housing and food stipends as well as health care.

Hey, this was my first thought as well. NRO insults every servicemember of the US military, film at 11!

Oh, and consider this: single members of the armed forces have their housing, food, and health care all directly provided for them.

And married ones get a check for that stuff :P

nightmarenny

mcCain pissed off more recording Artists

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/foo_fighters_blast_john_mccain_for_using_their_song.html

This time its the Foo Fighters "My Hero"

necroSYS

PantsB wrote: »

Qingu wrote: »

necroSYS wrote: »

Couscous wrote: »

I just got home. So the stock market, Obama can't lose barring hell freezing over?

I'm just wondering if he's going to be up to the Herculean task that's waiting for the next President. We're going to need another FDR to get out of this massive hole.

Options-trader gf points out that during the tech bubble burst, the market lost 50% of its value. So, might not be "OH SHIT" bad, just "oh shi—" bad.

Also, I'm no economist by a long shot, but isn't it a good thing that Obama wants to invest lots of money to create new green jobs and infrastructure? Isn't that the same kind of thing that dug us out of the Great Depression?

The Dow has lost ~25% since Sept 1. The tech bubble didn't drop off that much until after 9/11 (it did on NASDAQ but not across all industries).

Sorry, when the TED spread gains .25% in one day and it's already 400% higher than normal, it's a big deal.

kildy

Ouch. He really phrased that wrong, and should have said something like "to start, let me explain for everyone else what fannie and freddie are"

But seriously, assuming the person asking you something is uninformed about the issues at hand was.. playing with fire.

Screamline

SyphonBrue wrote: »

Screamline wrote: »

Preacher wrote: »

Horrible joke about Sarah Palin you have been warned.

What's the difference between Sarah Palin's mouth and her vagina?

Only some of the things that come out of her vagina are retarded.

I feel horrible for laughing at that. You're a bad bad man (and so am I).

No, I'm not and neither are you. It's just a joke, and if you can't laugh at it then you need off your damned high horse.

My horse is a low-rider, sir.

enlightenedbum

Biden would take over.

Meanwhile, Hillary is being sent to West Virginia and Arkansas, which is probably more effective than using Obama. Aim big, you know?

PantsB

Tomanta wrote: »

Politico writes:

James Hibberd reports:

Barack Obama has purchased a half-hour of airtime on CBS, sources confirm.

The Obama campaign will air a half-hour primetime special on Wednesday, Oct. 29, at 8 p.m.

Sources say the Obama camp is also near a deal with NBC and Fox. It’s not yet clear if an ad buy is locked on any other network, however, or if the duration or time period is the same.

:!::!::!:

tsmvengy wrote: »

Thanatos wrote: »

Æthelred wrote: »

NRO wrote:

During the presidential debate Tuesday night, Barack Obama was asked if he thought health care was a “right.”

He said he thought it was a right. Well, if you accept that premise, I think you can ask some logical follow-up questions: Food is more important than health care. You die pretty quickly without food. Do we have a “right” to food in America?

[...]

There’s a word for someone who has their food, housing and care provided for them… and that word is “slave.”

Yeah, just imagine if there were some sort of government program which supplied people with food...

It would be the end of democracy as we know it!

Some kind of stamps maybe!

Fool! You can't eat stamps! You can only lick them!

Drakeon

Burnage wrote: »

So, this might be a stupid question, but it's one that's beginning to trouble me, particularly with the increasingly ugly tone of the campaign overall. If - worst case scenario, obviously - Obama is killed before the election, what happens? Does Biden take over as Democratic candidate? Does the election default to McCain? Does the Democratic party re-elect a presidential candidate?

Almost certain it would be Biden running and he'd have to pick a running mate.

psychotix

enlightenedbum wrote: »

Biden would take over.

Meanwhile, Hillary is being sent to West Virginia and Arkansas, which is probably more effective than using Obama. Aim big, you know?

I'm thinking it wouldn't matter who took over after the race riots. Martial law would be declared and we'd be up the creek.

Sentry

So, Bush's duck and cover strat right now... pretty much going to cement him as the worst president in history, right?