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hey yo... crits here pleeease

tmccooltmccool Registered User regular
edited October 2008 in Artist's Corner
hey guys, i havent posted here in a like a year. how are you all doing? great. so im abroad this semester at school, but im still trying to draw every day. i think im getting better at drawing the figure now but i want to post some links for you guys to check out, and let me know how my progress is. they're NSFW, just FYI:


http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/tmccool/?action=view&current=IMG_3660.jpg
http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/tmccool/?action=view&current=IMG_3662.jpg
http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/tmccool/?action=view&current=IMG_3663.jpg
http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/tmccool/?action=view&current=IMG_3664.jpg
http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/tmccool/?action=view&current=IMG_3665.jpg
http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/tmccool/?action=view&current=IMG_3666.jpg

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Are these from life, reference or your head? What is with the mummy mask thing?

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited October 2008
    those ribs are frightening, man

    they make her look like she's got some serious sags in her skin

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  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yeah, the way you've been drawing the ribs is really harsh.

    I'd also suggest that you try drawing a real figure without any "additions" - no swirly lines or mummy-masks...I suppose the concept would be interesting if the figures were drawn better - so I'm going to suggest you just focus on improving the figure alone, for now.

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  • TonkkaTonkka Some one in the club tonight Has stolen my ideas.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I guess if they're mummies then the ribs would... be that way?

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  • KendeathwalkerKendeathwalker Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    is it that you cant draw a face? Not poking fun just asking.

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  • tmccooltmccool Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    1. they are from reference. i dont have any access to live models where im living right now, but i still want to practice drawing the figure, and so photos and posemaniacs.com are what ive turned to.
    2. i exaggerated the rib cage
    3. ive drawn the figure before, but your advice is duly noted. some more detailed criticisms would be more useful to me. for instance, you could start by analysing the problems your perceive in this: http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/tmccool/?action=view&current=IMG_3666.jpg
    just saying it needs improvement isnt as helpful as saying how or what needs improving.
    4. ive drawn faces before

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  • Forbe!Forbe! Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I think children in pre-school have drawn faces and figures before. It doesn't mean they are exceptional at it.

    There is always room for improvement.

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  • mattharvestmattharvest Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    tmccool wrote: »
    1. they are from reference. i dont have any access to live models where im living right now, but i still want to practice drawing the figure, and so photos and posemaniacs.com are what ive turned to.
    2. i exaggerated the rib cage
    3. ive drawn the figure before, but your advice is duly noted. some more detailed criticisms would be more useful to me. for instance, you could start by analysing the problems your perceive in this: http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/tmccool/?action=view&current=IMG_3666.jpg
    just saying it needs improvement isnt as helpful as saying how or what needs improving.
    4. ive drawn faces before

    Okay:

    1). Those exaggerated rib cages are rather wrong. They imply a sort of bizarre fat and muscle distribution where the arms and rest of torso receive fat but only the ribs don't. In some cases, such as the one you linked there, it actually looks like the ribs sit outside the fat layer, just below the skin. This doesn't look like a stylistic choice, but rather a bizarre misunderstanding of anatomy.

    2) Saying you've drawn faces before is meaningless. If you don't want to draw faces, no one is making you, but your work makes it seem like you just can't (unless there's some reason for the bandages).

    3) I don't understand the halos around all the models. What's the point/purpose?

    4) Some of those poses look like porn poses, not model poses.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I am almost entirely positive that some of those refs came from pornography. I don't care, drawing a person is drawing a person (at least when it comes to photos).

    To make this post worth something, I'd like to see some faces. Even if you suck at them, you won't get better without criticism.

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  • LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I am almost entirely positive that some of those refs came from pornography. I don't care, drawing a person is drawing a person (at least when it comes to photos).

    To make this post worth something, I'd like to see some faces. Even if you suck at them, you won't get better without criticism.

    This is false you can always improve without criticism, but criticism points out issues and can help improve.

    There are plenty of Va-jay-jay's in your links so I recommend putting a (NSFW) btw

    But I refuse to critique until you become my super best friend FOREVER

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Loomdun wrote: »
    I am almost entirely positive that some of those refs came from pornography. I don't care, drawing a person is drawing a person (at least when it comes to photos).

    To make this post worth something, I'd like to see some faces. Even if you suck at them, you won't get better without criticism.

    This is false you can always improve without criticism, but criticism points out issues and can help improve.

    There are plenty of Va-jay-jay's in your links so I recommend putting a (NSFW) btw

    Sorry, let me clarify: you won't improve if you don't know what it is you're doing wrong.

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  • LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Loomdun wrote: »
    I am almost entirely positive that some of those refs came from pornography. I don't care, drawing a person is drawing a person (at least when it comes to photos).

    To make this post worth something, I'd like to see some faces. Even if you suck at them, you won't get better without criticism.

    This is false you can always improve without criticism, but criticism points out issues and can help improve.

    There are plenty of Va-jay-jay's in your links so I recommend putting a (NSFW) btw

    Sorry, let me clarify: you won't improve if you don't know what it is you're doing wrong.

    /backhand plenty of people improve even when they don't know what there doing wrong because subconciously they sometimes develop the right technique

    I win

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  • 117Lei117Lei Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    IMO, the mummy faces and such aren't that big of a deal. The main thing is that you seem to have proportional problems in some of em. Notably, your hips tend to be too small/misshapen. IMO, look at some skeletons and anatomy books. Some of those shapes are downright impossible. Also, you seem to be drawing features of the body that are superfluous. This might be ok, but you ignore essential parts as well, so you get weird looking stuff, like the second to last one's hips. That's weird because you drew the crease in the skin, but ignored where the hip bones protrude and where the mass of the hip is.

    Random thoughts and corrections. It's not everything, but I'll tell you what I think is most glaring.

    In the last pic, the hips are too small, as is the ass. The ass should stick out more.

    In the second to last pic, the crease on the hips/leg is weird. Her right hand/wrist is not defined. Feels like a bended rubber glove. Also, the same forearm also has the rubber glove look. Like theres's no skeleton and its bent. The foreshortening on her right leg seems off too. It looks too flat, and doesn't seem like its coming towards you. Probably because of her knee I'd wager.

    In the third to last pic, her arms are too narrow.

    In the next pic up, her hips seem too small. Also, her left arm seems to have some invented muscles and such.

    Same with the next pic, but its her right arm this time.

    Her left arm seems to have made up muscles. Also, her left boob is up too far. I know that lifting an arm raises it, but that far? I'm pretty sure it doesn't look like that. Dunno, maybe look at your reference again.


    Hope this helps.


    EDIT: And just so you know, don't expect it to stay on Photobucket for long. They don't take kindly to nekkid pics, even if it aint porn.

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  • mattharvestmattharvest Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    As a note about hosting: Flickr is happy to have artistic nudes, so long as you label them accordingly with the 'safety' setting.

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  • NakedZerglingNakedZergling A more apocalyptic post apocalypse Portland OregonRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    these look like they're traced...
    i just don't get how some aspects can be so dead on, and other be so off.

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  • LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    these look like they're traced...
    i just don't get how some aspects can be so dead on, and other be so off.

    Depending on how much experience someone has with specific parts of the body obviously if someone has spent a great deal studying the structure of a arm and hand but have little knowledge on how to connect it to the body then while it may look correct without using reference. It will still look off. Perhaps someone can do amazingly accurate hand drawings but they dont understand the arm completely and therefore it just may look like a tracing

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  • NakedZerglingNakedZergling A more apocalyptic post apocalypse Portland OregonRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    true, but with the accuracy of whats right and the inaccuracy of the other stuff, plus the lack of any underdrawing seems odd to me.

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  • LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    He never said how much time he bothered and I can see many other variations of drawings behind his drawings of things with faces and ect. so i'm not 100% sure on what is up with the mummy wraps. These arn't drawings that are meant to be shaded and detailed what it looks like to me is basically a 2-4 minute sketch per drawing which would answer as to why there is no underhand sketch. Although possibility is he used a 4-h or higher and then darkened in the lines and erased that I'm guessing he merely did quick sketches since he has no models imposing of what he believes he knows, and therefore judging by that he is very capable of producing art but what he is doing right now is nothing close to a attempt of what someone would for such a project.

    In other words I don't know what to critique honestly if proportions are wrong it could merely be because he did quick draws? Maybe he likes boobiez to much and gave up and started fapping? The world may never know

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