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Obamanation 2: Maverick Edition
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Obama: 39%
McCain: 27%
Minds changed: 15% Obama, 14% McCain
Who can handle the Economy: McCain: 41% before, 49% after
Obama 54% before - 68% after
Understand your problems: Obama 60 before -80% after
Prepared to be President: Obama 42% before - 57% after
Both candidates came off as being intelligent and able to think on their feet during most questions.
I didn't like it when McCain made statements I knew were false to try and damage Obama's image or policies and I thought he seemed pretty out-of-touch on issues like the economy where his response seemed to be mostly "we'll fix it, we'll fix everything and it'll be easy. Let me tell you about how Obama wants to raise taxes on every single American while I'm going to lower them all now..."
McCain's jabs were a little more blunt and his one joke didn't get any laughs but I'd sayhe did a good job of explaining his position instead of just attacking his opponent the entire time.
I still prefer Obama's plans, especially on healthcare and foreign policy but I didn't hate either of them.
It's a shame there'll be no sequel to the VP debates since it'd be nice to see Palin with her "gloves off and heels on" get her head torn off by an unleashed Biden.
Brokaw cut off Obama every time he tried to interject to ask if he could address a point. Meanwhile McCain was making snarky comments left and right, and Brokaw didn't say anything to him. Brokaw even laughed at them.
I'm not saying Brokaw should have let Obama talk; it wasn't in the format. Where Brokaw failed was in his permissiveness towards McCain. I don't care if he's your buddy; you don't let him talk when you aren't allowing the other guy the same, and you DO NOT show favoritism by laughing at his attacks.
That was my assessment as well.
The final question was great. McCain made a half-hearted effort to at least use some of the terminology from the question, Obama pretended the person asked him to talk about whatever he felt like.
exactly, fuck town hall debates
no one is held accountable for their responses
uh, pretty sure a shitload of other people died in the holocaust too
I think McCain should have realized that as an old white guy talking about a young black guy "that one" is gonna be considered racist by some
I'm (mostly) sure that he didn't mean it that way but damn, he should have had some better judgment there
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I'm inclined to agree with that.
Should have said "that guy".
The Nazis murdered 11 Million people during the Holocaust.
Only 6 Million of those were Jews.
Which doesn't even count towards the 11 million total.
Because Jews aren't people.
I can't believe they were trying to dissect that afterwards. He fucking meant "that guy."
The "real" issue with "that one" is the utter disrespect in it.
Whether McCain likes it or not, the American people have decided that Barack Obama is hisw equal. He refuses to treat him as an equal, though, either being far too formal (his insistance on ALWAYS calling him "Senator Obama" during the first debate) or being casually dissmissive (that one)
Was it really even competitive? It was like a big old "How can I say the same thing as the guy who just talked without sounding like it?"-fest.
The thing that annoyed me the most was that both of them parroted the same replies they had already given in their previous debate. Sometimes verbatim. It just came off poorly for both of them. I watched it on CBS, and I wasn't at all surprised at the room full of undecided voters who remained undecided after the debate.
and eleven million dead was stalin's final tally
Correct.
Which is why a second Holocaust isn't that big a deal.
We need to deal with crisises where WHITE people are getting killed.
Still really dismissive of a guy who the American people according to polls still currently think would lead the fucking country better.
Think you might be reaching a little on that one, chief.
Heh, you were surprised by that? It's not as though the candidates gave them anything else to talk about.
Well, except for McCain's bizarre promise to buy up the bad mortgages. That was a surprise.
You have to know that I was only kidding.
He's supposed to share that high opinion of him? Are you retarded?
nope
I dunno about stalin, that might be a coincidence, but Eleven to twelve million was the Holocaust's total death toll, six million of those being Jews.
I could break it down further, tell you how many children and all of that, but really, this isn't the place for it.
mccain was much more dickish at other points
Enjoy this, I figure you got maybe another 2 or 3 left before you kill it.
Respect the strengths of your adversary, or you're bound to fall to them.
As a lifelong guy, I am equally offended.
Yeah it's a novel idea but I have a sneaky suspicion it's impossible.
I wasn't.
I do wish he would stop referring to bills as being "loaded with goodies," he sounds like he's trying to convince a five year old to get into his car.
And I wish Obama would have answered more of the questions, damn it.
bitch get your own cause
Of course, jokes get smileys
Real anti-Semitism gets pee in your moth.
yeah
not to diminish the focus on jews or anything
it just kind of irks me when people are like "six million jews died" and ignore the almost-equal amount of other various minorities and other non-perfect aryans
I really wish Obama would be all for Nuclear power, talk about huge boom to the economy.