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Pygmies, ameobas, and Armageddon
Otto Germain
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Hey, folks,
just sharing some of the comics that I seem to spend all my free time on. If you're into amphibious pygmies getting chased by three-legged monsters (and who isn't?), then you'll probably dig Uku. I work pretty hard on this one. It's highly experimental and minty fresh.
I've also got one that's about wisecracking microbes living in the primordial soup, if pygmies aren't weird enough for you. Soup is just about over, actually. It's pretty dumb, but definately almost certainly better than rectal warts.
And then there's something about the history of all things past and present.
I've got too much stuff to post a bunch of individual pages, so here's my one big plug of a post. I don't wanna spam up the forum. Check it out if you've got a few minutes to kill.
Stay frosty!
just sharing some of the comics that I seem to spend all my free time on. If you're into amphibious pygmies getting chased by three-legged monsters (and who isn't?), then you'll probably dig Uku. I work pretty hard on this one. It's highly experimental and minty fresh.
I've also got one that's about wisecracking microbes living in the primordial soup, if pygmies aren't weird enough for you. Soup is just about over, actually. It's pretty dumb, but definately almost certainly better than rectal warts.
And then there's something about the history of all things past and present.
I've got too much stuff to post a bunch of individual pages, so here's my one big plug of a post. I don't wanna spam up the forum. Check it out if you've got a few minutes to kill.
Stay frosty!
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Post Art, not links. Because at the moment this is just sitewhoring. If you want people to visit your site, put it in your sig.
That's all I'm gonna say about it.
It looks like you do have some great art. Post some of what you think are your best pieces. Also, did you come here to get more readers or to get advice and critiques on your art?
Oh look, you even joined today... How cliche.
Did you even LOOK at our rules section?
http://www.penny-arcade.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=209611
- great animation focused website http://www.catsuka.com
READ THE RULES, you noob-yarou!!!
The art's pretty good, especially for the 'history of the world' thing (what there is of it). But the humor's not so great. I probably wouldn't make your stuff something I check out regularly. One of the big rules in humor comic strips is you can get away with having sub-par art if your strip's funny, but it's harder to pull off a strip if the humor's ot so great, even if the art's fantastic. Maybe you should try finding a writer as well.
Did you know Jay Stephens has stuff in the webcomic organization you belong to? Now HIS comics are funny.
It's funny, because blasting people who are new to forums for doing things that don't actually hurt anyone is indeed, a cliché.
I mean, seriously, use a little fucking reason -- does his posting really inconvienience anyone, or somehow clutter up the forum?
His comics have great and varied art, and I thought soup was pretty darn funny sometimes (and the Pretentious History, though I prefer the nerdier jokes of Soup). Jesus christ -- you people make The Flood (a bungie.net forum) look accepting by comparison.
Its the fact that he comes to our niche, puts up adverts for his sites.
You dont go to a portfolio review, and lay a zipped up portfolio in front of your peers and make them lay YOUR artwork out to view. We're here to help when people are serious about there own artwork, and have taken the time to see how we conduct business around here. I'm not going to dig through some guys site looking for art to critique like its my duty.
Not only that, but he put himself out there. If he can't handle a little flaming from some annonymous art community, then I would like to see how he conducts himself in the REAL art world, where a curator, juror, or potential employer can make or break your art career.
So in the mean time, Q.Q .
Did he ever say it was your duty? No, of course not. If you don't want to click the link, then don't. It's not as though just by virtue of the fact that it's in this forum you must critique the work.
Now, it's perfectly human to want to put up adverts for his site, and this does seem like a logical place for that, considering the content of said sites. Perhaps he wants a critique of the comics overall, not just one sole panel.
Of course, I understand the worry that this sets a bad precendent, and that's true. But, generally, I'm in favor of the "punish the offenders" approach, as opposed to "don't give anyone the chance to offend approach."
So, yes, I think that perhaps there is some merit to the argument that he shouldn't post adverts, but I don't think it was, in this instance, at all a bad thing. And, given that, I think the reaction to his posting was overly rude and hasty.
A simple "Hey, in the future, could you not do this, because then lots of other people will start doing it too," would have sufficed. There seems to be a self-righteouness epidemic in this forum. And yes, that's totally hypocritical, I know. :P
Although, to be honest, I think that I'm not nearly so self-righteous -- after all, I'm not so intensely sure of myself that I don't even post the reasoning behind my comments, and I don't dash off rude comments unless I'm reciprocating.
A simple "Hey, in the future....*blah blah blah*" will not work. We get this type of stuff every day. Sure some of us are hasty to flame, but after your 300th thread with a lenseflare in it and your 700000th web comic thread you get sick of it. And our reaction to this is validated due to the posters flaw, a flaw they all share.
Yep thats right. Failure to read the rules and lurk, to see just how aggressive of a community we can be.
The epidemic is actually people posting their comics like this. It won't help no matter what we say because they don't read the rules, they don't lurk, and they do it anyway.
Well, it seems to me that this is sort of a "catch more flies with honey" situation. If they don't read the rules, then, well, when someone does, good naturedly fuck up (and this seemed well-intentioned), then just show them some respect, and then they'll have incentive to obey the rules. This is the internet -- obviously they're not going to obey you if you threaten punishment; I mean, what can you possibly do? Ban them? Ouch.
Instead, civility and respect can be turned to your cause. And, if someoneis just being a spamming dick, well, have some fun with him, but otherwise, I think it both counter-effective and uncalled-for to be hasty to flame.
Who the hell are you? Don't tell us how to run our forums! Get the out if you don't like it.
Now that, sir, is well-reasoned, and highly persuasive argument. Considering that I enjoy broadcasting my own bullshit at people (and isn't that what internet forums are all about?) I don't plan on leaving soon.
...Who ARE you?
Okay, yes, rules are very important, and I apologize on that point. I should have been more clear. However, that being said, it does not clearly state whether or not large images (or in this case, sequential art) should be placed behind a link or not. Keep in mind some forums are very picky about large images being plastered everywhere and will proceed to anally violate anybody who does. Better to err on the side of catuion, right? People with slow connections can get bitchy when they have to sort through a lot of big images like that.
Web design is part of a webcomic. Shouldn't a webcomic be viewed in it's native environment with functional navigation buttons and such? If you're looking for critique on a comic, shouldn't the comic in its entirety be considered? Also, where does the line between sharing your work and 'sitewhoring' begin? Perhaps more clearly defined rules on sharing webcomics are in order... or just disallow them outright.
I had pretty much assumed this forum was for critiques, after poking around, so I didn't really feel the need to point that out, but I'll be sure to do so for now on so as not to confuse anybody. I would think "This is my comic that I did with a thumbnail to click on and I'm very proud of it" would be a pretty obvious thing, but y'know, whatever.
Oh, and on that note, I did manage to spot some actual critique in there somewhere! It's interesting how people either love Soup or hate it (as far as the humor goes, anyway). Nobody's on the middle of the fence on that one. I actually am teaming up with a writer for another project, but I don't think I'm allowed to say anything about it yet. Writing is definately my weakest point, I'll give you that.
Don't worry about the flames, I'm retardant. My momma told me so every day. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this on. Whatever that means.
Long answer -- someone who's avoiding homework by trolling forums to give people their comeuppance, because I know better.
Short answer -- a douchebag.
Also, post some damn art.
Wow thats funny.
Now that you've revealed yourself as a douchebag, i'll have to agree with toaster, post some art, then maybe your care-bear attitude be accepted around here.
You sound like an idiot. An honest to god complete idiot who can't see past his own band-wagonning nose. I love the people around here, but y'all can sound really arrogant sometimes.
And Otto, I really like your drawing style. And I actually think your writing's pretty good. The "Pretentious History" is good, not laugh-out-loud, but it made me chuckle a few times. I'm definitely going to keep reading it.
You colossal hypocrite.
I don't care what you think of me, but if you're gonna be all high and mighty don't start contradicting what you're preaching in the same post.
But for cryin' out loud, people aughta know better than to feed trolls.
As far as first impressions go, this thread reminds me of every first date I've ever been on. I'm pretty much guaranteed to do something stupid.
Thanks for checkin' out tPHoE. It's a project I wanted to do for a long time, but when things like that get too serious, it just comes off as... well... pretentious, y'know? I thought the more tongue-in-cheek approach was a better way to handle it.
Oh great it's that guy. Here he goes with his logic and virtue again.
tl;dr.
It's probably the same as the stuff in the other topic.
Anyway, Otto, I like your comics. The history of everything one is a good read, I'd like to see how it progresses.
In the Uku comic, the artwork, colouring and overall style is very nice, I like it alot. You really get that pre-historic, primordial feel when looking at it.
I'm not sure if you're wanting crits or anything, but I would try to work on creating some more dynamic shots. Alot of the panels, I understand what is going on, but am not as entertained by them as I should be, simply because they aren't very interesting. Alot of it is all dead-center stuff, with the view always front-on and at eye-level.
I think adding a greater sense of action and movement into some panels would benefit the comic alot. By that I simply mean some more interesting angles, maybe not centering the frames all the time, action lines. Stuff like that in general.
Keep up the good work
Anyhow, I don't really have any critiques, but I really like the Pretentious History of Everything one. I got a couple good laughs from it, and I like the style.
Keep it up.
I'll be perfectly happy to offer comments and critisism, as soon as you actually post anything to critque or comment on.
Otto, it would be more expedient in getting advice if you posted specific images that demonstrate those things that you personally feel you need help on, rather than hoping everyone reads through everything you've ever made. Doing so would take forever, and it's not of much use to anyone to have people writing detailed, pointed critiques of things you drew perhaps years ago, if you've already improved on those points since then.
Everyone else, just chill, please.
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Tweaked_Bat_, I definately see the points you're making, and thanks for checking it out. I'm really not a big fan of action lines, personally, but I get your drift about adding some motion. I'll keep it mind for the action-oriented pages coming up.
It seems like a lot of folks here are more comfortable with critting a singular image rather than sequential stuff, so feel free to pass on by if it's not your bag.
Or, as Otto would say, stay frosty
Yeah. That must be it.
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