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Question about mobile vs desktop gaming graphics...
vegas-steven
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hello everyone.
seems as though my loooong look at a new system keeps driving me back to a laptop as i game most of the time on my xbox 360.
so that being said... i have a question.
say i were to get a notebook that had the following chipset:
Geforce 9700M GTS
512 Megs ram
How would that equate to the desktop version in terms of performance. what desktop chip would compare to that sort of mobile card, and will that sort of card play the following on decent settings:
-spore
-call of duty 4
-starcraft 2 (if the specs are even know yet lol)
-universe at war
-command and conquer (the new one coming out)
see, i love the games that are on the 360, and there are very few that are NOT on that platform aside form these sort of strategy games. why did i throw in COD4? because there will always be the odd game like chernobyl or whatnot that will NOT play on the 360, so just added that in.
Thanks... i have yet to see a real world version of these sorts of laptops running games. a shame.
seems as though my loooong look at a new system keeps driving me back to a laptop as i game most of the time on my xbox 360.
so that being said... i have a question.
say i were to get a notebook that had the following chipset:
Geforce 9700M GTS
512 Megs ram
How would that equate to the desktop version in terms of performance. what desktop chip would compare to that sort of mobile card, and will that sort of card play the following on decent settings:
-spore
-call of duty 4
-starcraft 2 (if the specs are even know yet lol)
-universe at war
-command and conquer (the new one coming out)
see, i love the games that are on the 360, and there are very few that are NOT on that platform aside form these sort of strategy games. why did i throw in COD4? because there will always be the odd game like chernobyl or whatnot that will NOT play on the 360, so just added that in.
Thanks... i have yet to see a real world version of these sorts of laptops running games. a shame.
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Just an advance warning from someone who's owned one. Most expensive mistake I ever made.
They are wrong. They are just deluding themselves about how great their system is. I know. I've been there.
In general, the smartest thing to do is to build a gaming laptop and get an Eee. That way you will have the otherwise-unreachable performance of a gaming desktop and the portability of a Laptop, instead of what you'll get with a "gaming laptop": the portability of a desktop and the performance of a laptop.
Take the ASUS G50V, its got a 9700GT-m in it, which can run most games out now at high settings @ its native res. The trade off? its 1-2 pounds heavier than most other 15"ers (6.5 pounds) and it only gets 2 hours of battery life (thats real life mind you, not the manufacturers rated life) A good portion of people will never even need two hours of battery life so it might be a good buy to them. It's also pretty much completely silent when not playing games.
Just never, ever buy a desktop replacement notebook..that is a dark road to walk down.
edit: i myself made the mistake of buying a 15 pound, 17" sager notebook at one point, so I am well aware of the folly of a pure gaming notebook
edit2: and to answer the ops question it looks like a 9700m-gts is roughly equivalent to a desktop 9600gt
If you get one it will be shit in a few years and you'll only be able to upgrade the RAM. Not a wise purchase.
i mean, i am not getting this to replace my xbox, but be powerful for everyday stuff and moderate to possibly heavy gaming.
its in the same place all the time so i dont care about battery life.
hrm...
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If portability isn't important and you just want to play the latest PC games, your best bet is to buy or build a middling desktop, throw in a $100 video card and you'll be able to run everything. Even Crysis. To say all gaming-class laptops are "huge, heavy, overheat a lot, and get shit battery life" is a pretty inaccurate claim, but unless you need the portability you'll save yourself a lot of money by getting a desktop -- or even upgrading one you already have.
why are you buying a laptop anyway
1) get the cheapest dell vostro you can get with a Core 2 Duo and 2GB of ram. It'll handle Peggle, Spore, Solitaire and flash games from websites, cost around $600, light, not too noisy, and not too hot. (You'll never fill up that 120gb hard drive if you've got a desktop to download stuff with)
Also you can get it with Windows XP, a big plus if you don't want vista.
2) get a Toshiba with 4gb of ram, a huge hard drive and a GeForce 9600GT for around $1300 on newegg. Toshiba laptops tend to have great speakers, too. It'll run everything at good detail levels.
3) go to your local stores and see if any of the laptops on sale are any good. They often have laptops with low-end dedicated graphic cards (Radeon 2400, GeForce 8400) for around $800 that can play games if you're willing to lower the details enough.
4) buy a laptop at your university if they have any program where they provide software for it (I got XP Pro, MS Office 2007, Matlab, Maple, Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 and a bunch of other stuff for really cheap from my university. Sadly their best laptop at the time was a $1400 Thinkpad with only a GeForce 8400. Kind of overpriced, but the 1680x1050 resolution and awesome keyboard make up for it.)
So you want a laptop to play games that will just be in one place all the time?
Why do you want a laptop if it's going to be in one place all the time? Taking out portability and battery life from the equation all that gives you is a system that is less powerful, more expensive, and impossible to upgrade.
If it's in the same place all the time, build a desktop! It'll cost half as much, get better performance, and you'll be able to upgrade it in the future.
I built a SFF (small form factor) PC for this, but it became such a hassle to bring with me that I replaced it with a gaming laptop.
I bought a Gateway P-6860 fx which has a 2.0Ghz, 4Gb, 8800GTS. Runs Warhammer Online maxed out. Cost me about $625 new from Bestbuy when it was on clearance. You just have to wait and watch for good deals and not buy things retail (P-6860 is $1200 retail.)
But I bought it over a year ago for just under $1000.
Intel core 2 duo 2.0 GHz
Geforce 8600m GT
2GB RAM
120GB HD.
This thing can play bioshock on full graphics with no problem. It can run CoD4 on a relatively high resolution with little to no lag. Sure it gets a bit hot sometimes, but just put it on a desk or something. It's fans are actually pretty effective. But really, a year ago this thing was a fucking beast.
I can understand it. My EEE is plugged into the wall most of the time when I'm using it. Same for my DS. It's good enough just to have it portable in case you ever might want to use it that way, you don't have to cart it around constantly to justify having it.