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[My Own Worst Enemy] Christian Slater On!

DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
edited October 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
So NBC has a new show coming out, called my own worst enemy. heres the wiki info:

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http://www.nbc.com/My_Own_Worst_Enemy/

Henry Spivey (Christian Slater) is a middle-class efficiency expert living a humdrum life in the suburbs with a wife, two kids, a dog, and a minivan. Edward Albright is an operative who speaks 13 languages, runs a four-minute mile, and is trained to kill.... Henry and Edward are polar opposites who share only one thing in common—the same body.

Christian Slater jumps out of the past and straight into this role like a madman and blew me away playing two roles at once.

So when watching this show, I have to say I must make comparisons to Chuck. Spy'ish show about average joe thrown into the spy world. Except, its very high action, kind of the reverse ratio of comedy/action of Chuck. Lots of action takes place, and there is no comedy except maybe some rough humor of looking at the irony of the situation. Also "Henry" is a much more capable person, and is very intelligent. When looking at the situation he is in, he realizes that his alter ego has the ability to do these things, so he must as well. I feel the hang ups will be of moral and ethical delimas, as it seems for sure that his alter ego doesn't feel restricted in this sense.

I have watched the first episode, and I have to say that if it keeps up this pacing it is easy contender for show of the season.

So far the first episode is available on the Microsoft Marketplace(I know for zune software, I do not know about the 360) to view for free. I really suggest you check it out. The first episode airs Monday at 10pm EST.

Discussion starter:

Non spoiler:
To start discussion on this show, I find it has one glaring major flaw. If you are going to this length to create an alter ego for a super spy, why not just keep him on the reservation full time? Why does he need to put up the veil of a normal life when his original is super spy gallivanting around? Its kind of like the secret identity conundrum, why does a playboy superman need a Clark Kent persona?

I think that the spy side wanted to settle down unconsciously, and maybe saw this as his chance to do it. They also haven't explored how he will act in an actual family situation, which could be interesting

Spoiler discussion(watch the episode first):
Im curious why they wouldnt just kill him if this is going to be such an issue. Maybe his experiment goes deeper, and we don't really know which persona is real(despite evidence found in the episode). Also I wonder if they could just end up erasing his home persona keeping the spy one, and making something up and dumping the home persona overall. It could be that there just watching the experiment unfold.


Don't hurt me, Im particularly bad at first posts. Let me know what I can fix.

Edit: helps to spell things correctly.

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  • milathmilath Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I dunno about anyone else, but I enjoyed this one. The writing didn't seem too forced for it, like some other fall premieres. Even Christian Slater does a decent job being JD from Heathers and that guy from Kuffs... or maybe the one from True Romance, I dunno.

    I'm interested to see where they go with it. I can see a point of contention with the big nameless spy organization already:

    "Edward is different; he has secrets." Obviously keeping Henry in the loop is going to be one at first. Makes me wonder if the nameless spy org will find out, and what they'll do if they do. Also makes me wonder how much more Edward uses Henry to carry out missions. I suspect it'll start making Henry more badass, but will it make Edward less of an ass?

    Seems like a good show. Quite a few directions it can go. Slater needs some legitimacy again after Alone in the Dark. :P

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  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I'll watch the second episode. I wasn't blown away, but I wasn't turned off by a lot of crap either, like with some of the other shows this season (I'm looking at you Fringe and Eleventh Hour).

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  • Tucanwarrior13Tucanwarrior13 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Haven't watched the show, but the movie "He Was A Quiet Man" was fucking amazing.

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  • BobCescaBobCesca Is a girl Birmingham, UKRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    suprisingly quite good...it'll be interesting to see what they do to keep it interesting, though.

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  • kdrudykdrudy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I enjoyed the first episode of this show. The only thing I'm concerned about it is keeping it good for an entire season. The premise feels like it should be a move, not an ongoing series. I'll be watching it to see where it goes.

    As for keeping him on all the time, if they want the cover to be flawless it makes sense to make him a completely different person, then there is little chance that the spy part overlaps into the real life part as the real life and spy are two completely separate pieces. The real life part then creates an entire life that is a valid cover with no holes. I think this is highlighted by the part in episode where his "coworker" outs Edward in the elevator, he was able to get Edward to screw up, with Henry there wouldn't have been any way to screw up as this was his life and he didn't know he was supposed to act a certain way, he just was that way.

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  • DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    See, thats kind of what I question, with the spys personality, i dont see why he needs a cover in the first place. I mean throw him a fake id, make him a playboy bachelor and thats about all he would need to walk around in public.

    Thats why I theorized that he isnt the real person, but the fake.

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  • B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Christian Slater's Edward is eerily similar to his portrayal of Winston Churchill.

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I enjoyed this a lot. I'm just not sure how much traction it has as a multiple season series. Like others have asked, if Henry's sudden awareness is a problem, why not erase him outright? I'm sure the spy organization can make it look like he died in a car accident or something. Or, at the very least, turn off the implant until it can be fixed, or a new one can be constructed. Edward does have that apartment he can stay in.

    Other than those nagging plot questions, it was an enjoyable first episode.

    Fun fact: Mike O'Malley, the guy who plays Tom/Raymond is a former UNH alum. He was the guy who used to host that Nickleodian show GUTS. I'm hoping he's wearing a lot of makeup, because if not, he hasn't aged well in the least. D:

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  • TachTach Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So, is this the American version of "Jekyll"? 'Cause that's what it sounded like before I read this synopsis.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    No one wanted to talk about it when I made a thread about it two days ago...

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  • DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    haha, sorry someone replied to mine bumping it up and yours bumped down............ I listen to page 1 only, would of stuck to yours if it stayed up here.

    once again with only one episode I think weill really start to see interesting things in the next few episodes, next episode will be "adjustment" where super spy sucks at being super dad. the third will be both sides getting the hang and the catch comes in somehow. I think the plot holes we see now are going to be catch. Theres also the fact that hes an experiment, and they need to see the full effects of the project. One issue with that though is why risk national security with him(then again we dont know the importance of his tasks)

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  • Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Some good momentum for the first episode, I enjoyed this far more than I thought I would. :)

    I'd be interested to see more about how the tech works for the switch-overs, and Edward's past; I'm sure there's tons of material they can mine from that.

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  • milathmilath Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    haha, sorry someone replied to mine bumping it up and yours bumped down............ I listen to page 1 only, would of stuck to yours if it stayed up here.

    once again with only one episode I think weill really start to see interesting things in the next few episodes, next episode will be "adjustment" where super spy sucks at being super dad. the third will be both sides getting the hang and the catch comes in somehow. I think the plot holes we see now are going to be catch. Theres also the fact that hes an experiment, and they need to see the full effects of the project. One issue with that though is why risk national security with him(then again we dont know the importance of his tasks)


    Well I saw you say you had made a nice OP in the other thread and looked it up and figured it might be better to go with this one. The other thread didn't even have the title of the show in the topic.

    I'm not much of a forum regular or anything so maybe this was the wrong thing to do, I dunno.

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