Bayonetta - giving naughty little angels a good spanking.

Olivaw

Vargas Prime wrote: »

I think I'm going to come back to this thread later when people are less "Dude, video games are serious business."

Yeah, seriously

Remington

I just think the character is stupid, but I'm apparently wrong because she's just like a character in a drinking movie. My mistake.

Akatsuki

I really don't mind the whole over-sexualization thing. I mean, sex is everywhere, in games devs try to tone it down a bit, but it's still there, why can't we have games that go over the top for whatever the purpose is, comedy or an attempt to give erections? It's in movies, it's in comics and it's in shows, why should games be any different?

4rch3nemy

Akatsuki wrote: »

I really don't mind the whole over-sexualization thing. I mean, sex is everywhere, in games devs try to tone it down a bit, but it's still there, why can't we have games that go over the top for whatever the purpose is, comedy or an attempt to give erections? It's in movies, it's in comics and it's in shows, why should games be any different?

I agree with you.

That doesn't stop this character from being completely and absolutely fucktarded.
opinionslol

Remington

I really just feel like it's a bit insulting when devs try to cater to that crowd instead of selling their game with a solid product.

And don't get me wrong, part of my problem is that this game otherwise looks like a lot of fun. I just think the character really brings it down to an area that'd make me feel like a perverted douche for playing it.

darklite_x

If you hate T&A so much, here's a tip: DON'T PLAY THE GAME, DUMBASS. What's the point of coming into a thread just to bitch about a game? Go ahead and tell us if there's something you don't like, but there's no reason to start generalizing other people as '13 year old retards' because they like something that doesn't appeal to you.

That said, this game doesn't appeal to me.

PatboyX

Gyral wrote: »

I think I've gotten my Blatant Crotch Shot Quota for the day. Also, Devil May Vagina much? Yeah, I can see me playing this but dreading the cutscenes.

Well, stay out of the MK vs DCU thread.

Remington

darklite_x wrote: »

If you hate T&A so much, here's a tip: DON'T PLAY THE GAME, DUMBASS. What's the point of coming into a thread just to bitch about a game? Go ahead and tell us if there's something you don't like, but there's no reason to start generalizing other people as '13 year old retards' because they like something that doesn't appeal to you.

That said, this game doesn't appeal to me.

I never said anyone was 13 years old. And sorry if I thought this was a "Bayonetta - look at this video and have an opinion thread" instead of a "Bayonetta - the celebration, you better not disagree with me thread"

fadingathedges

Akatsuki wrote: »

It's in movies, it's in comics and it's in shows, why should games be any different?

You choose what you consume. Vote with your feet etc.

ogcam777

I somewhat enjoyed the shooting positions. Was very Grammaton Cleric-esque. Now, if they made a game about that...

skace

It may look like DMC, but the vibe I got was Godhand. Unfortunately, it wasn't a good godhand vibe, more of like "we took the joke and ran it directly into the ground" vibe.

Except for hair dragon. That's the one area they managed to stay on target.

darklite_x

Remington wrote: »

I never said anyone was 13 years old. And sorry if I thought this was a "Bayonetta - look at this video and have an opinion thread" instead of a "Bayonetta - the celebration, you better not disagree with me thread"

I was directing that not at you specifically, but someone did say something about this game being aimed at those types as if it were some sort of derogatory thing. That said, my point was that you can dislike this game without bashing others for liking it. If my post didn't pertain to you then why did you feel the need to defend yourself?

Remington

darklite_x wrote: »

Remington wrote: »

I never said anyone was 13 years old. And sorry if I thought this was a "Bayonetta - look at this video and have an opinion thread" instead of a "Bayonetta - the celebration, you better not disagree with me thread"

I was directing that not at you specifically, but someone did say something about this game being aimed at those types as if it were some sort of derogatory thing. That said, my point was that you can dislike this game without bashing others for liking it. If my post didn't pertain to you then why did you feel the need to defend yourself?

Oh, I just thought you were misunderstanding me. I said that people who buy games explicitly for the oversexualization are retards. I have no beef with you. Or anyone, really. I just had an opinion.D:

Dangerous

skace wrote: »

It may look like DMC, but the vibe I got was Godhand. Unfortunately, it wasn't a good godhand vibe, more of like "we took the joke and ran it directly into the ground" vibe.

Except for hair dragon. That's the one area they managed to stay on target.

I was going to say something to that effect. The one liners come off like something right out of god hand. I actually cringed a little watching the video. I think it does a full 360 from horrible to horribly awesome and back. I don't care though I'll still likely end up getting it because it's just so absurd.

Raijin Quickfoot

I don't give a shit about the cleavage or sexuality of the character. Hell, I'm all for boobs. Also, I think the game will be fun, and I usually enjoy tongue-in-cheek humor such as DMC. However, this looks like too much. You hit a point where you are trying so hard to be tongue-in-cheek that you come off as stupid. It's a really thin line and so far, based on a really short trailer, they seem to have crossed that line. Guns in her high heels is just dumb. We'll see though. I'm sure I will play it and love it as long as it controls good.

Lamoid

So that guys name is Luka.

Has it been confirmed that he lives on the second floor.

Taramoor

Lamoid wrote: »

So that guys name is Luka.

Has it been confirmed that he lives on the second floor.

Yeah I think I've seen that before.

Akatsuki

fadingathedges wrote: »

Akatsuki wrote: »

It's in movies, it's in comics and it's in shows, why should games be any different?

You choose what you consume. Vote with your feet etc.

So, if I choose, isn't it only logical there should more to choose from?

fadingathedges

Akatsuki wrote: »

fadingathedges wrote: »

Akatsuki wrote: »

It's in movies, it's in comics and it's in shows, why should games be any different?

You choose what you consume. Vote with your feet etc.

So, if I choose, isn't it only logical there should more to choose from?

errr sorry, you lost me.


In case it's relevant to your response ~ My point was that just because certain elements (for the purposes of this statement, let's assume distasteful levels of over-sexualization and horrible dialogue are present in the game in a way that we can agree is negative) are contained in some percentage of popular culture does not justify their presence elsewhere. Demand better.

TLDR: Don't watch shitty movies, let alone cite them to justify shitty video games.

RainbowDespair

So this is basically DMC meets Godhand meets cleavage developed by the ex-members of Team Clover? I'm surprise Penny-Arcade of all places is complaining.

muninn

This certainly goes into my "lol japan lol" file.
I mean this game has been made in a very specific type of consumer in mind, and it certainly shows that the Western market might not be that receptive to it.

Dangerous

To be fair, some of the ads for Godhand were pretty fucking ridiculous, and look how it turned out.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=laSZukIwfgs

I know a tv spot =/= in game video, but given their track record so far I hope these guys know what they're doing. Even if the batshit craziness of the story/characters turns people off, I have hopes that there will be enough excellent and over the top combat to keep people coming back.

Basil

Finally someone found a use for a character's feet.

I don't know what the hell you people are moaning about, she has twice as many hand guns as she has hands. This is a glorious thing.


It occurs to me that I'm an example of the demographic they're perhaps not specifically aiming for, but will reach anyway. As soon as you add more guns and provide me with a new and interesting way to kill people, particularly people shaped like pegasi and angels, I'm sold regardless of what else you do.

fadingathedges

I agree with that part ^^

Beck

Games should try harder to actually be funny instead of sad and desperate.

But, well, I guess if more games were developed by funny men instead of sad and desperate ones, well, we would have less games like Arcana Heart and more Fallout's.

Xagarath

I expect this to be pretty good, on the whole.
Might buy a system it's on.

King Riptor

RainbowDespair wrote: »

So this is basically DMC meets Godhand meets cleavage developed by the ex-members of Team Clover? I'm surprise Penny-Arcade of all places is complaining.

I'm not.

There's this weird undertone of " Oh I'm not sexist and I'll prove it by isolating anything that is!" on this board( the Soul Calibur thread in particular was really bad about this).

Taramoor

Beck wrote: »

Games should try harder to actually be funny instead of sad and desperate.

But, well, I guess if more games were developed by funny men instead of sad and desperate ones, well, we would have less games like Arcana Heart and more Fallout's.

So more:

"I am the great Cackletta's most best pupil, who is named Fawful! I am here, laughing at you! If you are giving us the chase, just to get your silly princess's voice, then you are idiots of foolishness! Princess Peach's sweet voice will soon be the bread that makes the sandwich of Cackletta's desires! And this battle shall be the delicious mustard on that bread! The mustard of your doom!"

And less:

You are the master of unlocking!

DeMoN

I don't think master of unlocking was intended to be funny

Taramoor

DeMoN wrote: »

I don't think master of unlocking was intended to be funny

I was going for the "Intentionally funny" vs "Unintentionally hilarious" avenue of attack.

Really I just wanted an excuse to post a Fawful quote.

Beck

Any excuse for a Fawful quote is a good one.

Peewi

There's one thing I'm wondering. How are she pulling the triggers on her foot guns?

Tig

Peewi wrote: »

There's one thing I'm wondering. How are she pulling the triggers on her foot guns?

very nimble toes

Renzo

King Riptor wrote: »

Airan wrote: »

"...my little Cheshire Puss."

I could stomach every other line she spouts out but what the fuck is this? The way she said it just made me cringe alot.

Otherwise I'm a DMC fanboy, so this in my interest lists. They better pull some awesome shit to top the opening Office battle scene in DMC3, and not just slo-mo crotch shots.

Bear in mind that's the Japanese Track( English VA's are en vouge now I guess). I doubt who ever publishes it in the US it will keep it.

It'll likely stay the same for the US. That's what they did for every DMC game. It's becoming much more common to have one English voice track for the Japanese and English releases.

SilkyNumNuts

Peewi wrote: »

There's one thing I'm wondering. How are she pulling the triggers on her foot guns?

I thought that as well.

It's depressing that I don't question the hair-as-clothes-and-monsters, but I question the mechanics of foot guns.

It's like Crystal skull and the fridge is the thing that suspended my disbelief most.

Couscous

Why can't she pull the triggers on her foot guns with her hair?

Taramoor

Couscous wrote: »

Why can't she pull the triggers on her foot guns with her hair?

I just assumed that since her clothes AND her weapons are created out of her hair that she didn't need to pull the trigger, per se.

Peewi

SilkyNumNuts wrote: »

Peewi wrote: »

There's one thing I'm wondering. How are she pulling the triggers on her foot guns?

I thought that as well.

It's depressing that I don't question the hair-as-clothes-and-monsters, but I question the mechanics of foot guns.

It's like Crystal skull and the fridge is the thing that suspended my disbelief most.

Because hai attacks are so far out that you simply do not question it. Guns on your feet however, while still crazy, still seems somewhat possible.

EggyToast

I think the "sex" critique is that this may be too close to "BMX XXX" territory, where they say "we skip the boobs to focus more exclusively on her hair unraveling around her crotch. Ok, we focus on the boobs, too. Oh, and we have a game in there somewhere, I think. Wait, let me check."

If I want to look at fake bodies, I'll dial up some bad porn. Or skip to good porn. If I want to play a game, I want to play a good one. If the good game in question happens to have boobs or crotches or bare male chests, great, but the game comes first.

Comparing it to DMC isn't exactly fair, because those are held up as examples of quality gameplay first, and the over-the-top in-game action is supported by over-the-top cutscenes and clothing. The games are fun, though. All we know about this is a) she's essentially naked except for her hair-clothing, and b) hair dragon. Oh, and c) heel-guns. I'm not surprised that some people are assuming the game is just a cash-in on horny male gamers, considering all we've seen is a very brief, zoomed-out action section where the main character punches something in the face a few times.

Khavall

SilkyNumNuts wrote: »

Peewi wrote: »

There's one thing I'm wondering. How are she pulling the triggers on her foot guns?

I thought that as well.

It's depressing that I don't question the hair-as-clothes-and-monsters, but I question the mechanics of foot guns.

It's like Crystal skull and the fridge is the thing that suspended my disbelief most.

Well her guns are her hair too, right? I mean it seems more strange to think that she can make clothing and guns out of her hair but can't shoot the foot-hair-guns.