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Bayonetta - giving naughty little angels a good spanking.

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Geez just forget that she gets naked to launch some attacks and enjoy the awesome. Ayways I'm pretty sure she'll have underwear under her hair-suit. Dead or Alive is more over-sexualized than this. Much more.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Fireflash wrote: »
    Geez just forget that she gets naked to launch some attacks and enjoy the awesome. Ayways I'm pretty sure she'll have underwear under her hair-suit. Dead or Alive is more over-sexualized than this. Much more.

    And nobody complains about Dead or Alive?

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Fireflash wrote: »
    Geez just forget that she gets naked to launch some attacks and enjoy the awesome. Ayways I'm pretty sure she'll have underwear under her hair-suit. Dead or Alive is more over-sexualized than this. Much more.

    But Dead or Alive doesn't give new meaning to the phrase carpet muncher.:winky::winky::winky:
    :winky:

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I seriously don't see what's really wrong here, except the stupid crotch shot. Gameplay seems to be mostly Bayonetta pulling off crazy over-the-top attacks. Not having close-ups of gigantic boobs bouncing around.

    Viewing the trailer it doesn't seem to me like the "sexuality" is the game's main focus, unlike Tomb Raider or DOA. She doesn't even have ridiculous proportions.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Over the top is always a good excuse for retarded.

    The problem with this is that what we've seen so far doesn't make it clear if the is simply retarded or is really going for full-blown over the top of the topness. It's a Japanese dev, so it could go either way with such a ludicrously clad female character.

    I hope for mega over the top, myself.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Thinking about it, I'm surprised that it's taken this long to have gun feet in games. We've had gun arms for years (Mega Man, Samus, etc.), and it seems that gun feet would be the natural progression.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Over the top is always a good excuse for retarded.

    The problem with this is that what we've seen so far doesn't make it clear if the is simply retarded or is really going for full-blown over the top of the topness. It's a Japanese dev, so it could go either way with such a ludicrously clad female character.

    I hope for mega over the top, myself.

    Thing is I find it to be funny that is the main topic of conversation even though in the end it will have little to nothing to do with what the game is about.

    I.E. I don't really care...

    But it is understandable that people will latch on to that little subject piece since other than hair dragons and gun boots not much is known about the game. So I'm just going to ride it out for shits n' giggles.

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Over the top is always a good excuse for retarded.

    The problem with this is that what we've seen so far doesn't make it clear if the is simply retarded or is really going for full-blown over the top of the topness. It's a Japanese dev, so it could go either way with such a ludicrously clad female character.

    I hope for mega over the top, myself.

    I guess you've never played God Hand or Resident Evil 4.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Fireflash wrote: »
    I seriously don't see what's really wrong here, except the stupid crotch shot. Gameplay seems to be mostly Bayonetta pulling off crazy over-the-top attacks. Not having close-ups of gigantic boobs bouncing around.

    Viewing the trailer it doesn't seem to me like the "sexuality" is the game's main focus, unlike Tomb Raider or DOA. She doesn't even have ridiculous proportions.

    And her clothes are her hair. Which conveniently comes off when she's attacking or something.

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I'll wager that if instead it would've been a man with a similar hair suit, complete with ending up in small underwear while performing his special attacks nobody would've complained.

    The game would look just as awesome to me if it were a dude instead.

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    There are plenty of movies and games that try to pull off "over the top" and have it flop dramatically.

    Granted, the company making it seems to have done pretty well thus far, but you have to admit that they're walking a fine line with these trailers. It's like the Chaos Wolf (or whatever it was called) of over sexualization; it's so snugly on the boarder of "insanely stupid" and "insanely awesome" I can imagine it wouldn't take much to push it firmly into either side.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Fireflash wrote: »
    I'll wager that if instead it would've been a man with a similar hair suit, complete with ending up in small underwear while performing his special attacks nobody would've complained.

    The game would look just as awesome to me if it were a dude instead.

    And since we're making wagers, I doubt any developer would bother making such a game.

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  • fadingathedgesfadingathedges Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hairy man legs in my gunshoes? :o Probably won't happen.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Isn't God of War kind of ridiculous in that direction anyways?

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Fireflash wrote: »
    I'll wager that if instead it would've been a man with a similar hair suit, complete with ending up in small underwear while performing his special attacks nobody would've complained.

    The game would look just as awesome to me if it were a dude instead.

    Actually...if a dude used his hair as clothing and lost more of it as he attacked I would complain.

    Not because he's losing hair or anything but simply because I'd be wondering if he can also use his penis for attacks. I mean if he can elongate his hair at will, shouldn't he be able to do the same for his penis? And if he can, what type of penis based attacks would he have?

    What happens when he gets excited or flaccid? Do we really want to know? If he were to somehow take damage to his penis...would that be considered massive enemy-crablike damage? How do the balls come into the equation? Will the character be able to unleash massive teabagging attacks? Will he use his testicles like hand grenades? What about regeneration then?

    What happens if your character with this magical penis somehow fights against another magic penis wielder? What will you do when the uncomfortable crossing of swords becomes a factor? Tell your friends that you were drunk and pretend like it never happened? That may work in college but not in vidja games.

    Then you have to take things like physics into the equation. Do we even have a system powerful enough to animate something like that? Answer is no we don't.

    Really...I think it'll be another generation before we even have proper penis-based combat.

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    She shoots guns from her feet and can kick monsters into an iron maiden that appears out of nowhere. Why aren't people talking about this instead of a crotch shot that last 2 seconds? The whole trailer is pretty much her kicking ass.

    This thread makes it sound like the whole trailer is her wiggling her ass and taking suggestive poses.

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  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Fireflash wrote: »
    She shoots guns from her feet and can kick monsters into an iron maiden that appears out of nowhere. Why aren't people talking about this instead of a crotch shot that last 2 seconds? The whole trailer is pretty much her kicking ass.

    This thread makes it sound like the whole trailer is her wiggling her ass and taking suggestive poses.

    Yeah I thought some of the scenes from DMC 4 were worst in regards to the crotch shot... But who knows the game isn't out yet. At least the offset her design a bit by making her look a tad harsh/slightly bizarre instead of a pure sex bomb (at least imo).

    As for the game it self. I thought the boss scenes look pretty cool (e.g. the Zeus-like guy climbing/destroying the steps ).

    Egos on
  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Isn't God of War kind of ridiculous in that direction anyways?

    NO THAT GAME IS TOTALLY SERIOUS ALL THE TIME

    RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH

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  • Vargas PrimeVargas Prime King of Nothing Just a ShowRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Amen to all of that, Dragonkias. Proper penis-based combat is a mechanic that has, to date, been sorely unexplored.

    Also, what kind of friends do people have that actually judge them for playing games with sexy characters, whether it's meant to be serious OR campy?

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  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Also, what kind of friends do people have that actually judge them for playing games with sexy characters, whether it's meant to be serious OR campy?

    The rare gamer that somehow befriended militant feminists, yet still plays games with sexy characters in it :)

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Isn't God of War kind of ridiculous in that direction anyways?

    NO THAT GAME IS TOTALLY SERIOUS ALL THE TIME

    RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH

    You see...God of War is different because Kratos is being a hypocritical, emo asshole most of the time.

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  • fadingathedgesfadingathedges Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Really...I think it'll be another generation before we even have proper penis-based combat.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Like I said, the problem is that it's a Japanese dev. Considering we now have not one, but two, well-budgeted Japanese games that are focused on playing volleyball as chicks in bikinis and take themselves seriously, the question of whether this game is stupid or intentionally ludicrous is perfectly valid. In fact, had Godhand not come out before this, I would have already written off this game entirely as an excuse for another Japanese dev to make a game about a chick who gets naked to fight.

    However, I'm open to the idea of a sort of reverse-Godhand where the chick is super-awesome and everyone else is weird and gets pasted. It would only be fair.

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Like I said, the problem is that it's a Japanese dev. Considering we now have not one, but two, well-budgeted Japanese games that are focused on playing volleyball as chicks in bikinis and take themselves seriously, the question of whether this game is stupid or intentionally ludicrous is perfectly valid. In fact, had Godhand not come out before this, I would have already written off this game entirely as an excuse for another Japanese dev to make a game about a chick who gets naked to fight.

    However, I'm open to the idea of a sort of reverse-Godhand where the chick is super-awesome and everyone else is weird and gets pasted. It would only be fair.

    But God Hand did come out before this game. By basically the same studio. So, yeah. Let the record speak for itself.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I mean, the dialogue is ridiculous and makes a ridiculous Alice in Wonderland reference to boot (with some added undertones because people can't see her sometimes or something). That's definitely on purpose, and going "LOL JAPANESE!" is kind of insulting, really.

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    This thread is the best idea I had in a long-ass time.

    Edit: but seriously? Click that pic in my sig. It's nothing dangerous - another thread here at PA:G&T
    And then check out the demo. Seriously.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yeah... I'm pretty weary of Japanese gaming conventions, but having a sexy lady lead is not really unique. Lara Croft?

    And at least she's kicking ass instead of playing volleyball.

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Wait this is a kindasorta indirect spiritual sequel to Godhand?

    FUCK.

    YES.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    No, it's supposed to be the next evolution of the DMC games.

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    ...or something like that.

    It's really just a game on its own, but you can see influences from both of those games in the little bit we've seen of Bayonetta.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Like I said, the problem is that it's a Japanese dev. Considering we now have not one, but two, well-budgeted Japanese games that are focused on playing volleyball as chicks in bikinis and take themselves seriously, the question of whether this game is stupid or intentionally ludicrous is perfectly valid. In fact, had Godhand not come out before this, I would have already written off this game entirely as an excuse for another Japanese dev to make a game about a chick who gets naked to fight.

    However, I'm open to the idea of a sort of reverse-Godhand where the chick is super-awesome and everyone else is weird and gets pasted. It would only be fair.

    But God Hand did come out before this game. By basically the same studio. So, yeah. Let the record speak for itself.

    On the other hand, past performance is not indicative of future returns. I mean, look at Peter Molyneux.

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I'm not sure that's apt, Eggy. Molyneux has always made 'idea' games (populous, dungeon keeper, black & white). Besides, Molyneux is singularly known for over-hyping his games and promising more than can be delivered.

    I think it might be better to compare them to Kojima - but he's not a very good analog either (apart from consistent quality - he falls short when it comes to accessibility or depth of gameplay). Really - outside of Team Ico - I can't think of another game crew that consistently delivers on style + substance. Their games always look incredible, their games always play wonderfully.

    I mean sure, that stuff the Director wrote that I had spoilered in the OP is pretty big-for-your-britches talk, and should be taken with a grain (or cup) of salt. But, just going on their track record - even if this game becomes as divisive as God Hand - it'll be something incredible.

    I reckon.

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  • victor_c26victor_c26 Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Fireflash wrote: »
    She shoots guns from her feet and can kick monsters into an iron maiden that appears out of nowhere. Why aren't people talking about this instead of a crotch shot that last 2 seconds? The whole trailer is pretty much her kicking ass.

    This thread makes it sound like the whole trailer is her wiggling her ass and taking suggestive poses.

    I thought this as well.

    The Ass to crotch shot was sort of overshadowed by the pure destruction she was causing.

    That and Pistol whips aplenty.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Also, I recall God Hand having plenty of sexuality in it. Didn't seem to bother people then.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    PunkBoy wrote: »
    Also, I recall God Hand having plenty of sexuality in it. Didn't seem to bother people then.

    It made up for it with hoyay. Same with MGS. Stupid sexy snake.
    Wait this is a kindasorta indirect spiritual sequel to Godhand?
    Mad World is more of a spiritual sequel to Godhand.

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Couscous wrote: »
    Wait this is a kindasorta indirect spiritual sequel to Godhand?
    Mad World is more of a spiritual sequel to Godhand.

    Yep. I'm pretty sure I've seen a blatant pummel in one of the MadWorld clips. This seems like God Hand's insanity + DMC's action + a dial that goes to 11.

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  • JarthJarth Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Delzhand wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    There's one thing I'm wondering. How are she pulling the triggers on her foot guns?
    Hair trigger.
    http://www.instantrimshot.com/

    I know it's last page, couldn't help myself.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So I hear all the cool people animes and vidja games haet Christianity guyz!

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Jarth wrote: »
    Delzhand wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    There's one thing I'm wondering. How are she pulling the triggers on her foot guns?
    Hair trigger.
    http://www.instantrimshot.com/

    I know it's last page, couldn't help myself.

    I liked it.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Cantido wrote: »
    So I hear all the cool people animes and vidja games haet Christianity guyz!

    What the hell are you trying to mock?

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