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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Personally, this reinforces my growing conclusion that Bestheda never had the sense of humour required to do Fallout justice.
    That said, I live in a region that cut the children out of the last two anyway, so what do I know?

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  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Xagarath wrote: »

    If you take out all the "bad" things from fallout there is no game left.

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  • UselesswarriorUselesswarrior Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    1up review wrote:
    Distractingly bad character animations -- I'm talking man-on-the-moon jumps and running that looks suspiciously like ice skating

    WHO WOULDA THOUGHT A BETHESDA GAME WOULD HAVE THAT PROBLEM

    The animators at Bethesda must bring in coffee and donuts everyday or just be plain awesome to work with. That's the only reason they could keep their jobs, because frankly they are some of the worst in the industry.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I would also like to know how the PC version performs. Based on the horribly unoptimized Oblivion, I'm not sure my rig can handle it. As much as I hate to think about it, my e6750 and 8800 GTS are already outdated by now.

    Also! If anyone else ordering from Amazon got release day shipping, check your tracking info. While Amazon was still telling me I'd get the delivery today, UPS told me it wouldn't get here until Thursday. A call to customer service at Amazon didn't speed anything up, but I got my shipping refunded.

    I ordered my copy through Amazon and UPS shows as being out for delivery right now. So at the moment anyway it looks like I'm good to go.

    same

    I am expecting a fully crushed package, shattered bobble head and broken disk. Infact I had nightmares about it last night. Also, What about not killing kids? I can understand not including mission that calls for you to blow them to bits with high explosives, but if you feel real evil you should be able to pewpew them.

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    1up review wrote:
    Distractingly bad character animations -- I'm talking man-on-the-moon jumps and running that looks suspiciously like ice skating

    WHO WOULDA THOUGHT A BETHESDA GAME WOULD HAVE THAT PROBLEM

    The animators at Bethesda must bring in coffee and donuts everyday or just be plain awesome to work with. That's the only reason they could keep their jobs, because frankly they are some of the worst in the industry.

    Yeah, I just don't understand how TES 3 and TES 4 both had this problem, let alone how it happened in Fallout 3 as well.

    What. The. Fuck.

    e: also this: http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/22309

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  • DrunkMcDrunkMc Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Xagarath wrote: »
    Article wrote:

    "The reverse of that is some of the great stories that have been told that involve kids. Look at George R. R. Martin’s Song of Ice and Fire books. Kids play an important part in that series, and violence to those kids is an important part of those stories."

    Fuck you Red Wedding............Fuck you hard.............:cry:

    That being said, I don't think it distracts from the game not being able to kill kids that much. It does set up an "invisible wall" given, but I think the option to do so would cause more trouble for the Developers and Publishers then it's worth. I'd rather them spend money on getting out the mod tools (that honestly will prolly mod to let u kill kids) then on Lawyers fighting the class action law suits by Jack Thompson's successor.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yall wrote: »
    Given that the lowest review from any source is an 85% (or 8.5 or 'B') I'd say it's safe to say it's a winner.

    The complaints have been mostly pertaining to dialogue, floaty character models, and not enough prostitution. I mean seriously, were the whores in the previous games that important? I've played the games many times over the years, and I enjoyed the experience greatly without once getting laid.

    I just don't understand the fascination. Put down the controller, get some sunlight and get some real ass. I might need to post this in the Fable II thread as well. ;)

    The same answer applies to this as it does to the killing children or the shooting people in the groin.
    The excessive seediness of older Fallouts was part of the deliberate humour of the games. Without it, the wasteland is just... grim.

    Fallout 3: Watered Down So Bestheda Stay Friends With The Nice Ratings Board Men

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I WANT TO SHOOT CHILDREN IN THE CROTCH WITH A THERMONUCLEAR CATAPULT.


    Damn you Bethesda, damn you to hell

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  • Dr.ObliviousDr.Oblivious Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    1up review wrote:
    Distractingly bad character animations -- I'm talking man-on-the-moon jumps and running that looks suspiciously like ice skating

    WHO WOULDA THOUGHT A BETHESDA GAME WOULD HAVE THAT PROBLEM

    The animators at Bethesda must bring in coffee and donuts everyday or just be awesome to work with, its the only reason they could keep their jobs, because frankly they are some of the worst in the industry.

    Well, problem is they never go past the stage of pre-animation.

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  • SudsSuds Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    1up review wrote:
    Distractingly bad character animations -- I'm talking man-on-the-moon jumps and running that looks suspiciously like ice skating

    WHO WOULDA THOUGHT A BETHESDA GAME WOULD HAVE THAT PROBLEM

    The animators at Bethesda must bring in coffee and donuts everyday or just be plain awesome to work with. That's the only reason they could keep their jobs, because frankly they are some of the worst in the industry.

    Yeah, I just don't understand how TES 3 and TES 4 both had this problem, let alone how it happened in Fallout 3 as well.

    What. The. Fuck.

    e: also this: http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/22309

    They just haven't hired animators since Morrowind.

    And they fired them after Morrowind.

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  • ShyftedShyfted Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    My god this install is taking forever

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  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    For anyone who's spent a lot of time with it. Does the game give you a reason to explore? Oblivion didn't have much in the way of unique places and loot to find.

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I have this ordered from Amazon with Release-Date delivery. And yet, my package has not even shipped. I am curious on how Amazon expects to get this to me.

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  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    piL wrote: »
    I have this ordered from Amazon with Release-Date delivery. And yet, my package has not even shipped. I am curious on how Amazon expects to get this to me.

    If it's not out for delivery already you ain't gettin it today.

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  • TetraNitroCubaneTetraNitroCubane The Djinnerator At the bottom of a bottleRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    piL wrote: »
    I have this ordered from Amazon with Release-Date delivery. And yet, my package has not even shipped. I am curious on how Amazon expects to get this to me.

    Call up Amazon. They'll refund your shipping. It's what I had to do - and mine already shipped... in the opposite direction across the country. D:

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    People bought this game expecting excellent animation?

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Xagarath wrote: »
    Yall wrote: »
    Given that the lowest review from any source is an 85% (or 8.5 or 'B') I'd say it's safe to say it's a winner.

    The complaints have been mostly pertaining to dialogue, floaty character models, and not enough prostitution. I mean seriously, were the whores in the previous games that important? I've played the games many times over the years, and I enjoyed the experience greatly without once getting laid.

    I just don't understand the fascination. Put down the controller, get some sunlight and get some real ass. I might need to post this in the Fable II thread as well. ;)

    The same answer applies to this as it does to the killing children or the shooting people in the groin.
    The excessive seediness of older Fallouts was part of the deliberate humour of the games. Without it, the wasteland is just... grim.

    Fallout 3: Watered Down So Bestheda Stay Friends With The Nice Ratings Board Men

    I don't understand why this is a bad thing.

    Fallout 3: not an attempt to kill the company producing it.

    I mean, it's like calling Marvel and DC traitors for setting up the CCA. They're doing what they need to do to not be run out of town. I prefer slight self-censorship to simply not getting anything but Popcap games.

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  • YathrinYathrin Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    piL wrote: »
    I have this ordered from Amazon with Release-Date delivery. And yet, my package has not even shipped. I am curious on how Amazon expects to get this to me.

    My amazon order is out for delivery. I'll have my smashed lunch box, headless bobble head, and cracked clock today!

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    People bought this game expecting excellent animation?

    From an extremely high profile, well-funded title? Yes.

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Xagarath wrote: »
    Yall wrote: »
    Given that the lowest review from any source is an 85% (or 8.5 or 'B') I'd say it's safe to say it's a winner.

    The complaints have been mostly pertaining to dialogue, floaty character models, and not enough prostitution. I mean seriously, were the whores in the previous games that important? I've played the games many times over the years, and I enjoyed the experience greatly without once getting laid.

    I just don't understand the fascination. Put down the controller, get some sunlight and get some real ass. I might need to post this in the Fable II thread as well. ;)

    The same answer applies to this as it does to the killing children or the shooting people in the groin.
    The excessive seediness of older Fallouts was part of the deliberate humour of the games. Without it, the wasteland is just... grim.

    Fallout 3: Watered Down So Bestheda Stay Friends With The Nice Ratings Board Men

    I don't understand why this is a bad thing.

    Fallout 3: not an attempt to kill the company producing it.

    I mean, it's like calling Marvel and DC traitors for setting up the CCA. They're doing what they need to do to not be run out of town. I prefer slight self-censorship to simply not getting anything but Popcap games.

    It's a bad thing because it takes out a lot of what made the first two Fallout games so enjoyable.

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I havent seen this anywheres-

    Is there any sort of fast travel?

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    It's a bad thing because it takes out a lot of what made the first two Fallout games so enjoyable.
    Yes, it would be cool if Batman had been able to bloody someone's nose for 40 years, but we still got Batman stories out of it. I think Fallout 3 is preferable to Fallout Not Happening.

    I don't know, people seem to be saying Fallout was a terrible game made palatable by it's raunchy excess. I was 9 when I played it, I didn't get most of the dirty stuff. I just thought it was a cool game about post-nuke dystopian living.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Suds wrote: »
    1up review wrote:
    Distractingly bad character animations -- I'm talking man-on-the-moon jumps and running that looks suspiciously like ice skating

    WHO WOULDA THOUGHT A BETHESDA GAME WOULD HAVE THAT PROBLEM

    The animators at Bethesda must bring in coffee and donuts everyday or just be plain awesome to work with. That's the only reason they could keep their jobs, because frankly they are some of the worst in the industry.

    Yeah, I just don't understand how TES 3 and TES 4 both had this problem, let alone how it happened in Fallout 3 as well.

    What. The. Fuck.

    e: also this: http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/22309

    They just haven't hired animators since Morrowind.

    And they fired them after Morrowind.

    While Oblivion's animations are "bad", and Fallout 3's are nothing special, Morrowind's animations are jaw droppingly awful.

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  • Canada_jezusCanada_jezus Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I finished both the games before i even knew kids were left out. I installed the patch on subsequent playthroughs, i can honestly say for me at least being able to kill them or not didn't matter in the slightest.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Fallout 3: Watered Down So Bestheda Stay Friends With The Nice Ratings Board Men

    Fallout 3: not an attempt to kill the company producing it.[/QUOTE]

    Fallout 3: Not Rated AO.

    Didn't this line of discussion basically get burned out on Bioshock? If you kill kids, the ESRB ups your rating. If your game gets rated AO, it isn't carried, anywhere. Anybody try to get a copy of GTA:SA after it got rerated? Until the decaffeinated version was released, it was pretty much impossible.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    asshole ups didnt even knock

    I didnt even know it was delievered until refreshed the page and saw that my package was dropped sometime ago. Fucking UPS, oh well atleast its not crushed and mangled


    GLEEEEE

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  • FirmSkaterFirmSkater Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hahaha, oh man the whining in here is pretty good.

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    It's a bad thing because it takes out a lot of what made the first two Fallout games so enjoyable.
    Yes, it would be cool if Batman had been able to bloody someone's nose for 40 years, but we still got Batman stories out of it. I think Fallout 3 is preferable to Fallout Not Happening.

    I don't know, people seem to be saying Fallout was a terrible game made palatable by it's raunchy excess. I was 9 when I played it, I didn't get most of the dirty stuff. I just thought it was a cool game about post-nuke dystopian living.

    That's like saying "I prefer a shit sandwich to no food at all."

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  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hevach wrote: »
    Fallout 3: Watered Down So Bestheda Stay Friends With The Nice Ratings Board Men

    Fallout 3: not an attempt to kill the company producing it.

    Fallout 3: Not Rated AO.

    Didn't this line of discussion basically get burned out on Bioshock? If you kill kids, the ESRB ups your rating. If your game gets rated AO, it isn't carried, anywhere. Anybody try to get a copy of GTA:SA after it got rerated? Until the decaffeinated version was released, it was pretty much impossible.[/QUOTE]

    I think we can all agree that censorship comes from the mouth of satan.

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  • MarikirMarikir Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I don't quite get the whole "You can't kill kids??? EPIC FAIL!" attitude that some people have.

    I don't care for that style of gameplay. If it was in the game, I wouldn't have used it either. But, it's not, so I don't care in any case.


    I'm also sure that right now, someone is trying to figure out how to get that "missing part" of Fallout into the PC version. So, if that is something you miss about Fallout and NEED NEED NEED it, I'm sure you won't have to wait too long if you have the PC version.

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  • FirmSkaterFirmSkater Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I will sit here and tell you right now that within a week to two weeks someone will have a mod that lets you kill children. Mod tools or not the demand is too strong.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Marikir wrote: »
    I don't quite get the whole "You can't kill kids??? EPIC FAIL!" attitude that some people have.

    I don't care for that style of gameplay. If it was in the game, I wouldn't have used it either. But, it's not, so I don't care in any case.


    I'm also sure that right now, someone is trying to figure out how to get that "missing part" of Fallout into the PC version. So, if that is something you miss about Fallout and NEED NEED NEED it, I'm sure you won't have to wait too long if you have the PC version.

    Pretty much just the soundtrack as I mentioned. The graphic desgin and setting seem to be really up to par, and I've already done one quest that reminded me of the first game.

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008

    I think we can all agree that censorship comes from the mouth of satan.

    Yeah his butt mouth.

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  • Canada_jezusCanada_jezus Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So because you can kill adults you should be able to kill kids. Aight fair enough.

    MAN BETHESDA WHERE IS MY CHILD PROSTITUTE THIS ISNT THE GRITTY FALLOUT I WANTED

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  • YallYall Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Xagarath wrote: »
    Yall wrote: »
    Given that the lowest review from any source is an 85% (or 8.5 or 'B') I'd say it's safe to say it's a winner.

    The complaints have been mostly pertaining to dialogue, floaty character models, and not enough prostitution. I mean seriously, were the whores in the previous games that important? I've played the games many times over the years, and I enjoyed the experience greatly without once getting laid.

    I just don't understand the fascination. Put down the controller, get some sunlight and get some real ass. I might need to post this in the Fable II thread as well. ;)

    The same answer applies to this as it does to the killing children or the shooting people in the groin.
    The excessive seediness of older Fallouts was part of the deliberate humour of the games. Without it, the wasteland is just... grim.

    Fallout 3: Watered Down So Bestheda Stay Friends With The Nice Ratings Board Men

    I don't understand why this is a bad thing.

    Fallout 3: not an attempt to kill the company producing it.

    I mean, it's like calling Marvel and DC traitors for setting up the CCA. They're doing what they need to do to not be run out of town. I prefer slight self-censorship to simply not getting anything but Popcap games.

    It's a bad thing because it takes out a lot of what made the first two Fallout games so enjoyable.


    I call bullshit - for me anyway.

    I never killed any civies and never bothered with the hookers, and yet I enjoyed the dark and seedy wastelands of the first 2 games immensely.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    You could kill children in the older Fallout games, and it was funny.
    Now, you can't kill children, and nobody will make me believe it has nothing to do with rating boards and parents bitching and news demonizing games. It's got EVERYTHING to do with that. Like, 100%.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Not a matter of the mouth of Satan. If it gets rated AO, stores usually need to get the same documents they would need to carry pornography. In some states, this cab mean applying to the zoning board because your business district isn't classified for adult sales. Read your local newspaper regularly to find out how much of a picnic dealings with zoning boards are. So stores just don't carry them, which means they don't get sold, which means they don't get made. Maybe Bioshock would have been a better game if you could shoot the little sisters, but not very many people would know it was.

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  • MegaMekMegaMek Girls like girls. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Ok, so, how long is it taking you guys to install. My install has been at Installing Games for Windows LIVE for like, 5 minutes.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    FirmSkater wrote: »
    Hahaha, oh man the whining in here is pretty good.

    I am shocked that people who've clearly had no intention of liking it since it was first announced, suddenly are being critical of it now that it's out.

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  • MarikirMarikir Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Djiem wrote: »
    You could kill children in the older Fallout games, and it was funny.
    Now, you can't kill children, and nobody will make me believe it has nothing to do with rating boards and parents bitching and news demonizing games. It's got EVERYTHING to do with that. Like, 100%.

    Welcome to the world that a lot of gamers wished for...a world where games were known and recognized and popular, instead of being the backalley diversion they used to be viewed as.

    Welcome to the spotlight.

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