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Help me appreciate my 360

NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
edited October 2008 in Games and Technology
Unlike most of you, I'm a fairly new Xbox user. I've had my PS3 since launch (60 GB model), but have only owned my Elite since last X-mas. I only have two games for it - Forza Motorsport 2, and Mass Effect. I'm not into FPS games, so I could give a shit about Halo. Given my disabled hands, I'm pretty much the only person on the planet that doesn't like the 360 controller. It's too thick, and the left-stick position is horrible for me. So, I'm not as 'nimble' with it as I am with a Dual Shock/SIXAXIS style controller. This, in turn makes me hesitant to really dive into action games with complex control schemes. I don't want to waste money on a game I will only get frustrated with.

Let's see...I'm not too into online gaming. I play Warhawk somewhat regularly, but that's it. I find online gaming drama to be both irritating and juvenile, and ultimately not worth my time. The idea of having to deal with mouth-breathing 13 year olds makes me homicidal. So, I might hop online every now and then, but it's not a priority.

I've asked for Gears 2 and Rock Band 2 for this coming X-mas. What else should I look for? I'm trying to figure out why for so many people the 360 is self-evidently better than the PS3, but I can't figure it out. It's probably because my 360 library is so pathetic, but nothing I've seen strikes me as being the title that will lead me to think "Now I get it!" So, I'm hoping that someone can recommend that golden title for me, as my Elite is pretty lonely at the moment, and I'd like to get some decent titles for it.

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    How do you fare with the Harvest moon-ish type games? You should give Viva Pinata a rent. It's a very fun game that will last you a while. Try out the demo for Castle Crashers, and see if it's your bag.

    Dead Rising is great, but can be frustrating at times. How do you like RPGs? There are quite a few on the system I can recommend, but only really if you tell us what RPGs you've enjoyed in the past. :)

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    RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    360 is all about XBox Live Arcade.

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    EvangirEvangir Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Stock up on some of the great RPGs the 360 has. Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Tales of Vesperia, Infinite Undiscovery, Eternal Sonata, and even (if you're a huge JRPG nerd like me) Enchanted Arms.

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    TheSuperWootTheSuperWoot Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    360 is all about XBox Live Arcade.

    This. I'd recommend picking up Bionic Commando, Geometry Wars 2, and Castle Crashers if you've got some friends nearby who enjoy a good beat 'em up.

    For a normal game I'd recommend Dead Rising if you like open-world gameplay and bashing in zombie heads with a toy lightsaber.

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    DremDrem Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Evangir wrote: »
    Stock up on some of the great RPGs the 360 has. Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Tales of Vesperia, Infinite Undiscovery, Eternal Sonata, and even (if you're a huge JRPG nerd like me) Enchanted Arms.

    If you get curious about these, hold off on Eternal Sonata, as an enhanced PS3 version is coming out soon. I believe Blue Dragon and Tales of Vesperia both have demos on Live, and Eternal Sonata has a demo for both Live and PSN (they're exactly the same, if I remember correctly), so try them out.

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    Jean Claude Van CalmJean Claude Van Calm 'sup? Awesome Possum.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Too bad you don't enjoy online. Thats what the 360 is about to me, since my pc isn't exactly bad-ass I do most of my online gaming on xbox live. Just plug the headset in and leave it on the floor to ignore mouth breathers.

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    The-PimpThe-Pimp Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    You said you didn't like FPS but you didn't make it too clear on the types of games you do like..

    Just check out some demos and Trial arcade games to see what you do and don't like. Lots of great stuff to try. RPG's, sports, adventure, RTS, old school games, remakes, etc..

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    UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Not a 360-exclusive, but Marvel Ultimate Alliance is both awesome and cheap on 360. For some reason, everywhere I see the PS3 version it's still $50-60. :|

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    UltrachristUltrachrist Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    I've asked for Gears 2 and Rock Band 2 for this coming X-mas. What else should I look for? I'm trying to figure out why for so many people the 360 is self-evidently better than the PS3, but I can't figure it out. It's probably because my 360 library is so pathetic, but nothing I've seen strikes me as being the title that will lead me to think "Now I get it!" So, I'm hoping that someone can recommend that golden title for me, as my Elite is pretty lonely at the moment, and I'd like to get some decent titles for it.

    It is also because getting both a 360 and a PS3 is a sort of redundant since so many of their good games are on both. I got my PS3 second and barely have any games for it.

    Anyways, 360 exclusives I like: Crackdown, Earth Defense Force 2017, Castle Crashers (XBLA), Dead Rising, Braid (XBLA), Viva Pinata (closest thing I will ever get to Dungeon Keeper 3 honestly). The first three are all considerably better if you play co-op.

    Surfing demos is a pretty good idea like someone mentioned.

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    Dodge AspenDodge Aspen Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The first thing any 360 owner should do is head over to the Marketplace and fill your hard drive with free trial versions of any Live Arcade title that interests you. Then, get yourself some points, and buy some of them. Specifically Bionic Commando: Rearmed, Castle Crashers, Pac Man: CE, Geometry Wars 2, and Mega Man 9.

    These games, along with Crackdown and GTA IV are reasons I appreciate my 360.

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    AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    No recommendations for Ikaruga?

    That's pretty much the first arcade game I'll ever get when I get a 360.

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    NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The-Pimp wrote: »
    You said you didn't like FPS but you didn't make it too clear on the types of games you do like..

    I tend to like just about everything else. 3rd person action games (PoP, Uncharted), sports games (Madden, NHL), puzzle games (Tetris, Lumines), racing games (Forza, Tourist Trophy), RPGs (just beat FFT: WotL), etc. The only other genre I tend to avoid is horror (Silent Hill, RE).

    I have Bionic Commando for the PS3, so that's out.

    Regarding the 360's RPGs, I'm trying to steer away from the Japanese side of things. With the exception of FFT: WotL and Crisis Core, the last few JRPGs I've played have been a bit too cliche and bland for me. I think I'm just getting tired of that specific sub-genre. I already have (and have beaten) Mass Effect, so that's out. Are there any other Westernized RPGs for the system?

    Any good flight sims for the system? I tried the demo for Ace Combat 6. Loved the visuals, hated the direction the story was going in. I don't like anime mixed in with realism. I think that's the main reason why I can't stand MGS. That said, I'd kill for a good space opera-ish sim along the lines of Wing Commander or Colony Wars.

    EDIT: Even Crisis Core was horribly cliche until the last few chapters. Genesis + Angeal = teh suck.

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    the cheatthe cheat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Live arcade games are great. I thought they would be lame, but ho boy I could not have been wronger. The demos are great, I love that every arcade game HAS to have one. Some excellent arcade games include Hexic HD, 1942 Joint Strike, Puzzle Quest, Braid, Undertow, Band of Bugs, plus a slew of classic games like pac-man and defender and shit, complete with graphical facelifts in addition to the original content. (1942 is a classic but it is all new and does not include any original games)

    UM, you don't HAVE to use your mic, or even have other players voice chat enabled. I don't. I think most games are just as fun without such nonsense. I make an exception where teamwork is key.

    You say you don't like FPS, but you have mass effect, so... I guess you aren't THAT opposed to them in which case may I suggest a little game called The Darkness. There's a demo for it. It is grand. Burnout paradise is pretty slick if you like to drive.

    Hey, let us know what PS3 games you have, so we don't get all redundant, and get a better idea of games you like.

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    SamSam Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    there really isnt much of a difference, major game-wise, anymore. If you don't like Gears or Halo there aren't any huge exclusive titles.

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    mugginnsmugginns Jawsome Fresh CoastRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Games to grab:

    GTAIV
    Saints Row 2
    Dead Rising
    College Hoops 2k8 (best basketball game ever released)
    Crackdown
    Rock Band 2
    Marvel Ultimate Alliance
    Lego Star Wars or Batman
    Bioshock (yeah, FPS, but it is great)
    Gears of War 1 / 2

    COD4 is an amazing game as well, but I would suggest finding a group of friends (like we have at 360A) to play with, as it is much more fun to do that then to play with random e-gangsters. Personally I feel that people who think online play on consoles is bad just haven't found a good group of friends to play with yet.

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    SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Sam wrote: »
    there really isnt much of a difference, major game-wise, anymore. If you don't like Gears or Halo there aren't any huge exclusive titles.

    I guess start here although bear in mind that that list doesn't include games that are only available on the 360 and the PC. If you don't have a gaming PC, the 'exclusive' titles (ie ones that aren't available on the PS3) is larger.

    Also bear in mind that a lot of cross-platform games, such as GTAIV, have downloadable content that will be Xbox 360 exclusive if that's of concern.

    But yeah, we hear this a lot with people who either owned a PS3 already and then bought a 360 or owned a 360 already and then bought a PS3 and come wondering what's so great about their new console. By and large, there's very little reason to own a 360 and a PS3 unless you absolutely positively must have the few A-List titles exclusive to each platform.

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    RotamRotam Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I'm pretty much the exact opposite. I can't find any reason to buy a PS3 yet.

    Little big planet looks really interesting though.

    Nobody has mention GRAW2 yet. Short but really fun third person tactical shooter. It can be had really cheap nowadays.

    Also, Crackdown is really awesome.

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    SamSam Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    wow did no one mention Ninja Gaiden 2? Although the op might have trouble with the controls. There's also a Tenchu game but apparently it sucks.

    Too Human is supposed to suck as well but Tycho seemed impressed with it iirc

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    mugginnsmugginns Jawsome Fresh CoastRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Sam wrote: »
    wow did no one mention Ninja Gaiden 2? Although the op might have trouble with the controls. There's also a Tenchu game but apparently it sucks.

    Too Human is supposed to suck as well but Tycho seemed impressed with it iirc
    I've heard really really bad things about Too Human and I didn't play NG2 because of ghost fish in NG1. I only recommended games I have played

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    SamSam Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Rotam wrote: »
    I'm pretty much the exact opposite. I can't find any reason to buy a PS3 yet.

    Little big planet looks really interesting though.

    Nobody has mention GRAW2 yet. Short but really fun third person tactical shooter. It can be had really cheap nowadays.

    Also, Crackdown is really awesome.

    graw is on ps3. i was not aware saints row 2 was 360 exclusive. Good luck beating GTA sales. Not that it would- they put out a new GTA 4 ad that makes it look much better than SR2 all over again. Without even having to do the whole "Fucking helicopters crashing into jumping motorbikes while you launch rockets!!! Did I mention that shit blows up?" push.

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    xplosivoxplosivo Registered User new member
    edited October 2008
    I am going to continue with the comments on the Xbox Arcade stuff. I am totally addicted to Puzzle Quest (even though I preferred it on the DS). There are a bunch of other great casual games on there.

    As for the bigger games, Rock Band and GH of course are a lot of fun. I also enjoy playing my old version of Burnout. Didn't care for Paradise that much, but the old one was pretty bad-ass.

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    Jedi_BoiJedi_Boi Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Help you appreciate your 360...ok;

    BEAT MASS EFFECT...MULTIPLE TIME.

    There ya go!

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    JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Jedi_Boi wrote: »
    Help you appreciate your 360...ok;

    BEAT MASS EFFECT...MULTIPLE TIME.

    There ya go!
    Or go play a good western RPG like Planescape or Baldur's Gate 2 and then a good FPS and enjoy the superior experience overall.

    Edit: Why would you lime your own post? Cut that shit out.

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    JohnHamJohnHam Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    You could always go for some oXbox games as well. I recently got Jade Empire and it's fantastic. (Obviously don't forget KotOR, although I don't know whether they're compatible).

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    RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    More details on some of the XBLA games you should get.

    Get Pac-Man: Championship Edition. I didn't expect much from it since, well, it's just Pac-Man and I was never a big fan, but it turned out to be my favorite game of 2007.

    N+ is a fantastic skill based platformer. Great fun if you like challenging games & it has a ton of levels (with additional level packs purchaseable for $2.50 or even free).

    If you like shmups, Geometry Wars 2: Retro Evolved is probably the best shmup in existence. Other great ones on XBLA include Ikaruga, Heavy Weapon (especially fun in co-op), Galaga Legions, and Omega Five.

    Castle Crashers is an awesome old school brawler with some minor RPG elements that also happens to have incredible 2D art and some great music.

    Braid is a very fun puzzle/platformer involving time manipulation. It's a bit overhyped (I think Portal was much better), but still very worth your while.

    Rez HD is a modern day classic, updated with high definition visuals & surround sound support. Plus it's only $10.

    As far as non-XBLA games, if you like Western RPGs, Fable 2 is coming out soon and is a 360 exclusive. Fallout 3 as well although that's multiplatform.

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    Jedi_BoiJedi_Boi Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    JAEF wrote: »
    Jedi_Boi wrote: »
    Help you appreciate your 360...ok;

    BEAT MASS EFFECT...MULTIPLE TIME.

    There ya go!
    Or go play a good western RPG like Planescape or Baldur's Gate 2 and then a good FPS and enjoy the superior experience overall.

    Edit: Why would you lime your own post? Cut that shit out.


    Cause I'm new here :(


    But seriously, Mass Effect is the best game for the 360, you can't play those classic RPG's on the 360.

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    LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    More details on some of the XBLA games you should get.

    Get Pac-Man: Championship Edition. I didn't expect much from it since, well, it's just Pac-Man and I was never a big fan, but it turned out to be my favorite game of 2007.

    N+ is a fantastic skill based platformer. Great fun if you like challenging games & it has a ton of levels (with additional level packs purchaseable for $2.50 or even free).

    If you like shmups, Geometry Wars 2: Retro Evolved is probably the best shmup in existence. Other great ones on XBLA include Ikaruga, Heavy Weapon (especially fun in co-op), Galaga Legions, and Omega Five.

    Castle Crashers is an awesome old school brawler with some minor RPG elements that also happens to have incredible 2D art and some great music.

    Braid is a very fun puzzle/platformer involving time manipulation. It's a bit overhyped (I think Portal was much better), but still very worth your while.

    Rez HD is a modern day classic, updated with high definition visuals & surround sound support. Plus it's only $10.

    As far as non-XBLA games, if you like Western RPGs, Fable 2 is coming out soon and is a 360 exclusive. Fallout 3 as well although that's multiplatform.

    Listen to this man, for he is wise. My 360 is pretty much a Rock Band–and–XBLA machine, and I have absolutely no qualms with that. There are a ton of great puzzle, action, shmup and other quick pick-up-and-play games on the platform; I'm at about 23 XBLA games by last count. The digital distribution channels are really where the last true system exclusives lie, whether on PSN or XBLA; a lot of other stuff, as you've found, is multiplat across 360 and PS3.

    Aside from that, you mentioned racers; Burnout Paradise is across both systems but I believe Burnout Revenge wasn't on the PS3, and I prefer Revenge's linear, arcadey approach versus Paradise's open-world sandbox setup. It can also be gotten for a song nowadays. And in terms of general action with simple controls, it's in your best interests to at least rent Earth Defense Force 2017. It's the most terrible game that you'll ever have the most fun with—it's a blast.

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    DelinatorDelinator Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Check out Test Drive Unlimited. It's kind of a Sandbox Racing Game.
    You are free to drive all over the Main Island of Hawaii and do different kind of races and delivery or hitchhicker missions. The money you earn can be used to buy new cars, outfits, appartments or big villas. If you win a certain number of races you will advance to a higher class and unlock more races and missions.
    If you are connected to X-Box Live you can challenge other players you meet on the streets to a 1 on 1 race, do specific multiplayer races or go to a Drive In and do custom challenges from other players or create and share your own challenges.
    I'm not a big racing fan but I had a lot of fun with TDU.

    Tomb Raider: Legend and Tomb Raider: Anniversary are also great.

    Puzzle Quest has been already been mentioned several times. It's also available on PSN.

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    DangerousDangerous Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Not 360 exclusives, but Grid and Burnout Paradise are awesome if you don't already own them for PS3. Dead Space is out now and getting some really great reviews. Pure is a fairly accessible and beautiful racing game.

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    Jay FoxfireJay Foxfire Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Bioshock's a good game but you might not like it because it is a FPS. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night is available on Xbox Live Marketplace. If you are a fan of the Castlevania series, SOTN is a must have. It could be described as a 2D action platformer with RPG elements and an emphasis on exploration. Another game on the marketplace that I would recomend is Stubbs the Zombie in: Rebel Without a Pulse. It is an Xbox Original and puts you in the role of a zombie. It's also a love story. It's a werid game with a quirky sense of humor. Many of the suggestions already mentioned (Castle Crashers, Dead Rising, Marvel: Ultimate Alliance, Earth Defense Force 2017, and Crackdown) are game that I'd highly recomend as well.

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    UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    JohnHam wrote: »
    You could always go for some oXbox games as well. I recently got Jade Empire and it's fantastic. (Obviously don't forget KotOR, although I don't know whether they're compatible).

    It's compatible insofar as the game boots up.

    If you want to actually play the game at a decent framerate and without the worst sound glitches ever, play it on an Oxbox.

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    SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Test Drive Unlimited was my game of the year a couple of years ago. Obviously you need to enjoy racing games, but I\'m not a huge racing guy (I still haven\'t played Forza), and I loved TDU. Just driving around the island, doing different challenges, finding car dealerships, or just cruising. Such an awesome and fun game, and one of the few games I beat into the ground (thought I never got all 1000 achievement points).

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    JohnHamJohnHam Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    JohnHam wrote: »
    You could always go for some oXbox games as well. I recently got Jade Empire and it's fantastic. (Obviously don't forget KotOR, although I don't know whether they're compatible).

    It's compatible insofar as the game boots up.

    If you want to actually play the game at a decent framerate and without the worst sound glitches ever, play it on an Oxbox.

    I haven't noticed any specific sound issues, but it definitely seems way too quiet all the time, like only some of the effects are playing at the right volume. The voices are fine though so it's cool.

    The stuttering is annoying but I can deal with it, it's at a minimum during combat. One of the only things that's really pissing me off is the occasionally LONG load times, and that every now and then you'll say something in a quest conversation and it'll automatically teleport you to the next objective in the town, but if it has to load you have to wait for that and another load just to get back where you were, which is crazy frustrating if you still have shit to do.

    I believe I am fairly far though, despite these issues, and if there weren't a billion games worth playing coming out I'd probably give it another run-through, make a "beat the shit out of everyone" character. Are there any horrendous glitches I have yet to encounter?

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Im gonna have to lay down a pretty huge recomendation for Eternal Sonata. If you even remotely enjoy JRPGs, or used to enjoy them, its a great title.

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    Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    get Pac-Man Championship Edition. its probably the best 360 exclusive that there is.

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    EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Antihippy wrote: »
    No recommendations for Ikaruga?

    That's pretty much the first arcade game I'll ever get when I get a 360.

    This is like buying a hammer and informing the guy at ACE Hardware that you're going to pound a nail through your dick.

    Ikaruga is fucking hard.

    Edit: On topic, the Demo station on the 360 is fucking fantastic, poke your head around there for commercial and XBLA releases.

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    AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    It's too bad you said you aren't into online games; XBL is pretty much the reason I bought a 360, along with Halo.

    Dead Rising is pretty fun, but if you don't have an HDTV it's really hard to read the text. Umm, let's see what else. I just started Blue Dragon and it's really charming and entertaining so far. All of my other games you've already beaten or you're not interested in.

    Also, Mega Man 9 will rock you.

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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    What's that? People are giving love to Test Drive Unlimited, which costs like $15 at most used now?

    Listen to their advice!

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    exoplasmexoplasm Gainfully Employed Near Blizzard HQRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I kind of want to jump in since I'm in a similar boat now. I have been without an Xbox 360 since I think Feb or March this year. I still have some games for it and just ordered a new one (yay Dell coupon deal). The problem is all the games I've been wanting to play on it are out or coming out for PC and I have a sweet gaming PC.

    Aside from e-peen points on XBL is there any reason I should choose them over a (hopefully) superior PC release?

    Edit: Actually thinking about it, the XBLA titles like Castle Crashers and Braid are probably all I need to validate my re-purchase of a 360.

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I think a full quarter of my 120gb HD is devoted to Rock Band tracks. Aside from that, a crapload of XBLA titles: Castle Crashers, Bionic Commando, Geometry Wars 2, Braid, Penny Arcade Adventures, etc.

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