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Is it possible to 'start fresh' at college?
Chu
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Really simple question, probably an obvious answer.
Is it illegal or against the rules to just 'not submit' my freshman transcript and just apply as a student who took time off after high school? I don't want to migrate any credits (I have none), I just want to start as a freshman. Can I do this or is the omission of transcripts illegal?
Is it illegal or against the rules to just 'not submit' my freshman transcript and just apply as a student who took time off after high school? I don't want to migrate any credits (I have none), I just want to start as a freshman. Can I do this or is the omission of transcripts illegal?
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From high school or another college? A HS transcript is largely dependent on the college (most will let you take competency testing anyways) and you in no way need to submit anything you did at another college. Last I checked.
Yeah, I did 'ok' (not great) in highschool, finishing with a high 2 or low 3 GPA, don't recall precisely. I bombed my first year of college, got no credits. Now I've been working, just consolidated my student loans, and I actually feel like I could do 'ok' now going back to school. I just don't think I could get in anywhere if I applied with a transcript of all Fs and withdrawals.
Thanks guys, this is definitely motivating.
What can they do to me if they catch me at this? Is it a crime, a violation of policy, neither, or both at most schools?
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Usually just a violation of school policy. I'd be hard pressed to have to find a law to encompass that.
I'm starting out in community college and then going to transfer, will that make things easier (assuming I get good grades)? Also, when I apply to four-years should I mention ye olde high school awards or just . . . not bother? I was a National Merit Scholar, but it's not like there's a scholarship to go along with that any more . . . Should I mention it?
Is there some rationale as to why they can saddle me the negative performances while not acknowledging the good ones?
I can sort of see the policy vis a vis GPA - since your GPA and class placement could hypothetically matter in a job interview or something - but shouldn't they be forced to take the good with the bad? Granted, I could see some stuff dating, like my old programming credits, but I don't think calculus or european history have changed much in seven years
also national merit scholar hi5 to LadyM (although I'm so old I did get a scholarship.)
I host a podcast about movies.
Can you elaborate on this "competency testing"?
Think of like algebra, which of these words are most alike, and write me a paragraph sort of tests. Completely dependent on the college though.
Well, I'd think it's more of the "You didn't tell us this, and we're not happy because it might have affected your admission to our school and scholarship eligibility we automatically enrolled you in" sort of garbage. Not like "well you have bad grades but I'm going to ignore all the good stuff" sort of thing.
Oh, I was thinking that it was some kind of test that is used to determine whether you could be accepted or not. Like, a college uses only the test to determine acceptance and just ignores your GPA, your SAT, etc.
Is there a college that does that?
Not that I know of. High school kids get admitted much differently than adults do. I know a lot of high school kids have to write entrance papers and such. I'm not sure if that practice has gone out of style since I was in high school, but it was the make or break for your application and $75.
For adults, usually you just walk into admissions/financial aid and go "I'd like to get a degree" and they bend over backwards for you.
My admission is mandatory to this particular state college and they don't automatically enroll you in anything ...
I host a podcast about movies.
Penn State might be a state school but it's one of the most competitve in the country especially if you're out of state.
Penn State?
I Know UPenn is tough, and maybe University Park campus of Penn State, but the satellite campuses of Penn State aren't too hard to get into?
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Maybe the satellites but the main campus is difficult to be accepted to. It's a very popular, well respected state school that prefers to take in-state students. As an out of state student with crap grades you stand little chance to be accepted there.
UPenn would be completely impossible for someone in this situation because it's Ivy League and one of the best schools in the country.
Also it's pretty infeasible for me to pay for a private school unless I get an absurd amount of scholarships.
I'm an orphan and I make less than $26,000 between my two jobs. I hope I can get some nice grants.
Good luck with everything though.
NYU is pretty selective; do you have the SAT and GPA to get in? If you failed out your first year, don't you think manhattan is going to be a bit of a distraction?
If you're an orphan, and have no legal guardians or they too are low-income (their $$ would be reported on your FAFSA, too, which you should know), then you shouldn't have trouble getting financial aid at a good private university.
Selective is a pretty big understatement. NYU is extremely difficult to get into and if he failed his freshmen year there is really almost no way he'll get in. If he has a perfect SAT, did incredibly well in high school and has a buttload of extra curriculars they might be willing to overlook the fact that he failed his freshmen year.
You can go to CC for a couple years and transfer in with perfect grades but it might be worth looking into other schools in the NY area. You might want to try CUNY.
From NYU's website, the indexes:
# Average High School GPA: 3.63
# SAT Score Range (middle 50%): 1300 - 1440
That means the bottom 25% of the class had a 1300 (old score) SAT, and the top 75% had a 1440.
That's selective, but not super selective; Columbia's index is 1380-1530. The whole range of really selective schools (the ivies + pomona, wesleyan, amherst, williams, uchicago, the service academies) are much, much harder to get into than NYU.
I would just do community for two years but I really do want a more 'committed' environment, plus the #1 thing is I'm looking to dorm. I've been working 2 jobs for a while, and as financially irresponsible as it is with the extra expense I'd seriously love to just spend four years living in a dorm like most of my peers. I miss it so much. I feel like I'm cheating myself out of that awesome period if I decide to just commute to a CC.