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[WoW] Workin' for the Weekend: The Profession Thread

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  • Zephyranthes91Zephyranthes91 Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
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  • khainkhain Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    A normal blue gems gives you 24 stam so replacing it with a JC gem gives you a net of +17 stam since you can have 3 JC gems that comes out to +51 stam.

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  • Zephyranthes91Zephyranthes91 Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I was just talking about the gems not the net gain I'd get from them.

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  • EndEnd Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    It's not worth looking at anything other than the net gain, though.

    You actually even get a little extra beyond +51 stam or whatever, but it varies, since meta/socket bonuses vary.

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  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    With inscription, the money is not in the Glyphs, it's with the Vellums and the Northern Darkmoon cards. And even the Darkmoon cards to some extent.

    You're never going to get a return on your money if you rely solely on Glyph making.

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  • Zephyranthes91Zephyranthes91 Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I never really bothered trying to sell glyphs or vellums. Mainly because I hardly ever farmed and never did my Major Glyph research. I always just used Darkmoon cards to make money and now all nobles cards are under 1k gold on my server so It's not worth the time and effort to try and make a Nobles card.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    khain wrote: »
    JC gives 51 stam, not 41 and JC/Mining is the highest stam combination currently, however if epic gems ever come out JC/BS will be better and it gives you more options if you have to dps or heal.
    Yes, I'm aware that JC affords you better options as far as socket colors/meta-gems go, but doesn't BS give the biggest net gain with two extra 27 stam gems (54 stam total)?

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  • EriosErios Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    forty wrote: »
    khain wrote: »
    JC gives 51 stam, not 41 and JC/Mining is the highest stam combination currently, however if epic gems ever come out JC/BS will be better and it gives you more options if you have to dps or heal.
    Yes, I'm aware that JC affords you better options as far as socket colors/meta-gems go, but doesn't BS give the biggest net gain with two extra 27 stam gems (54 stam total)?

    They are actually 24 stam gems. This means it's less effective than mining, which gives 50 stam.

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2009
    Or if you're a miner/BS, you get 98 (* 1.06) stam.

    So uh, yay me.

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  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I never really bothered trying to sell glyphs or vellums. Mainly because I hardly ever farmed and never did my Major Glyph research. I always just used Darkmoon cards to make money and now all nobles cards are under 1k gold on my server so It's not worth the time and effort to try and make a Nobles card.

    I bought a Seven of Nobles the other day for 450g and got a tell in broken english yesterday saying "you buy Seven Nobles...give back."

    ......................

    This is the rest of the conversation...and I'm not kidding:

    Me: "I already used it to make a deck...sorry"
    Crazy Person: "sold it wrong price...give you money back"
    Me: "......I already used the card. It is now part of a deck and that deck has been sold."
    Crazy Person: "to be 1450g not 450g."
    Me: "Dude, I do not have that card anymore...it...is...gone..."
    Crazy Person: " WHAT!? no have card??"
    Me: "...................................no"
    Crazy Person: "you give 450g. I sold it for wrong price."
    Me: "Are you serious? No, I'm not giving you any gold."
    Crazy Person: "you have 8 or 5?"
    Me: "no"
    Crazy Person: "need 8 or 5. you give 400g."
    Me: Crazy Person added to ignore list.


    Nobles Decks are still selling for 5000g or more...inscription is still a lucrative profession. Prisms and Undeath Decks are selling for around 500g. The Chaos Decks are ass...only selling for about 100g.

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  • IshtaarIshtaar Fun is underrated. Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    With inscription, the money is not in the Glyphs, it's with the Vellums and the Northern Darkmoon cards. And even the Darkmoon cards to some extent.

    You're never going to get a return on your money if you rely solely on Glyph making.

    This is totally right. Continue on with this... >.>
    I still make about 500g/day by buying ink and posting glyphs. Down somewhat from the 1k/day I was making before the Dual Spec nonsense, but who's counting.

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  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Ishtaar wrote: »
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    With inscription, the money is not in the Glyphs, it's with the Vellums and the Northern Darkmoon cards. And even the Darkmoon cards to some extent.

    You're never going to get a return on your money if you rely solely on Glyph making.

    This is totally right. Continue on with this... >.>
    I still make about 500g/day by buying ink and posting glyphs. Down somewhat from the 1k/day I was making before the Dual Spec nonsense, but who's counting.

    What glyphs are you making? What server?

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  • TheTishTheTish Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    With inscription, the money is not in the Glyphs, it's with the Vellums and the Northern Darkmoon cards. And even the Darkmoon cards to some extent.

    You're never going to get a return on your money if you rely solely on Glyph making.

    yep yep... if you want to make gold with inscription, just do that.

    Pay no attention to me sitting at the AH making glyphs... i just do that for fun.
    *whistles innocently*
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    In all seriousness though, it is possible to make gold with glyphs. However it does take a bit of work. Trick is to make sure you have a diverse selection of glyphs on the AH. Even with only 3 or 4 of each glyph, and only actively posting new auctions for glyphs selling over 8g each, I usually have over 500 total auctions running all the time. Not everyone wants to put the effort into keeping track of that much stuff.

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  • IshtaarIshtaar Fun is underrated. Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    Ishtaar wrote: »
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    With inscription, the money is not in the Glyphs, it's with the Vellums and the Northern Darkmoon cards. And even the Darkmoon cards to some extent.

    You're never going to get a return on your money if you rely solely on Glyph making.

    This is totally right. Continue on with this... >.>
    I still make about 500g/day by buying ink and posting glyphs. Down somewhat from the 1k/day I was making before the Dual Spec nonsense, but who's counting.

    What glyphs are you making? What server?

    Scilla, and whatever's selling for more than 30g I put up 1-2. Now that people have gone insane with all the new ones, they're forgetting to list the "old" ones, especially minors. Obliterate is still the biggest money maker, and one of the Pally minors.

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  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Ishtaar wrote: »
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    Ishtaar wrote: »
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    With inscription, the money is not in the Glyphs, it's with the Vellums and the Northern Darkmoon cards. And even the Darkmoon cards to some extent.

    You're never going to get a return on your money if you rely solely on Glyph making.

    This is totally right. Continue on with this... >.>
    I still make about 500g/day by buying ink and posting glyphs. Down somewhat from the 1k/day I was making before the Dual Spec nonsense, but who's counting.

    What glyphs are you making? What server?

    Scilla, and whatever's selling for more than 30g I put up 1-2. Now that people have gone insane with all the new ones, they're forgetting to list the "old" ones, especially minors. Obliterate is still the biggest money maker, and one of the Pally minors.

    I don't have a single glyph in my inventory that sells for 30g or more. Maybe it's Baelgun but glyph making only made me money when dual specs hit. I sold everything I made.

    I have only gotten my hands on two of the books so I am probably missing out on the high dollar items but I still stand by what I said: I wouldn't make money JUST selling glyphs.


    I usually have around 100-160 auctions up at any one time but I just can't imagine having 500.

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  • TheTishTheTish Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    The glyphs I sell are usually anywhere between 8 to 20g. Only ones that are above that are some of the glyphs which are from the glyph mastery books. Considering I can usually get ink of the sea for around 2g each, and can convert those to any other inks I need, you can see the sort of profit every glyph generates.

    I do end up reposting some glyphs over and over again, as I don't sell everything I post immediately. Don't think that I sell 500+ auctions each day... I just have that many always running. However, the cost to relist the glyphs is relatively minor.

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  • IshtaarIshtaar Fun is underrated. Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    I usually have around 100-160 auctions up at any one time but I just can't imagine having 500.
    Oh! Not 500 glyphs, 500 gold worth. It's only like 20 or so auctions.

    The added benefit I have is my Scrivener is on my old RAF account, so I can tab out to put up auctions while we're summoning the slow people to the raid... Most guilds on the server start raids around the same time, so I can be the douche that undercuts at the last minute.

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  • TheTishTheTish Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Ishtaar wrote: »
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    I usually have around 100-160 auctions up at any one time but I just can't imagine having 500.
    Oh! Not 500 glyphs, 500 gold worth. It's only like 20 or so auctions.

    The added benefit I have is my Scrivener is on my old RAF account, so I can tab out to put up auctions while we're summoning the slow people to the raid... Most guilds on the server start raids around the same time, so I can be the douche that undercuts at the last minute.

    I do have 500 or more auctions running at any given time though. :P

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Erios wrote: »
    forty wrote: »
    khain wrote: »
    JC gives 51 stam, not 41 and JC/Mining is the highest stam combination currently, however if epic gems ever come out JC/BS will be better and it gives you more options if you have to dps or heal.
    Yes, I'm aware that JC affords you better options as far as socket colors/meta-gems go, but doesn't BS give the biggest net gain with two extra 27 stam gems (54 stam total)?

    They are actually 24 stam gems. This means it's less effective than mining, which gives 50 stam.
    Not sure what I was smoking yesterday.

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  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Have herb prices gone back up?

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  • TheTishTheTish Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    They've been fluctuating wildly on my server. Adder's tongue and icethorn vary anywhere from 15 to 30g per stack.

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  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    TheTish wrote: »
    They've been fluctuating wildly on my server. Adder's tongue and icethorn vary anywhere from 15 to 30g per stack.

    Those two herbs are exactly what I was asking about.

    12g-18g a stack last week.

    22g+ a stack this week.

    Whats causing that?

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  • TheTishTheTish Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    TheTish wrote: »
    They've been fluctuating wildly on my server. Adder's tongue and icethorn vary anywhere from 15 to 30g per stack.

    Those two herbs are exactly what I was asking about.

    12g-18g a stack last week.

    22g+ a stack this week.

    Whats causing that?

    Might be just because the darkmoon faire is going on. I'm sure a lot of people were milling those to get the snowfall ink. Now that the trinkets are BoE, many people are making tons of decks. They are turning them in instead of selling the decks, with the idea that selling the actual trinket while the darkmoon faire is not around may reap bigger profits. It also allows people to easily grind darkmoon faire rep if they are going for the 'insane' title.

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  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    TheTish wrote: »
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    TheTish wrote: »
    They've been fluctuating wildly on my server. Adder's tongue and icethorn vary anywhere from 15 to 30g per stack.

    Those two herbs are exactly what I was asking about.

    12g-18g a stack last week.

    22g+ a stack this week.

    Whats causing that?

    Might be just because the darkmoon faire is going on. I'm sure a lot of people were milling those to get the snowfall ink. Now that the trinkets are BoE, many people are making tons of decks. They are turning them in instead of selling the decks, with the idea that selling the actual trinket while the darkmoon faire is not around may reap bigger profits. It also allows people to easily grind darkmoon faire rep if they are going for the 'insane' title.

    The trinkets are now BOE? When did this happen?

    How do I miss these things?

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  • mturalonmturalon Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    missed this as well.... great that's going to make it harder for me to get. been saving up and buying cards as I see them if they are cheap

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    The trinkets are now BOE? When did this happen?

    How do I miss these things?
    Because Blizzard doesn't mention the changes, and the only way to notice is to see it yourself or catch some random comment like you did here.

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  • TheTishTheTish Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Yeah... I just heard about it a couple days ago. I think it was a change in the most recent patch (3.1.1), and this past week's darkmoon faire is the first one that people have been able to take advantage of it.

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  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    This would definitely seem like it would/should be in the patch notes.

    So now we're going to see Darkmoon: Greatness trinkets on AH then.

    This should be interesting.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Should, yes. Would, nope.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    There'll be people selling them after making the decks while going for rep to get the Insane title.

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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Can a character equip two different Darkmoon cards at once? Like Greatness and Death.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Yes.

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  • KainyKainy Pimpin' and righteous Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I see the downside of not being able to get the deck you want out of the 4 greatness decks as kind of a major downside to this whole BoE business.

    But that's me.

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  • Racist JokeRacist Joke Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I'm sorta tempted to drop my enchanting and get a money maker. I'm a tailor as well btw. Thing is, I've put alot of money into enchanting already (I bought my way to max skill in TBC because of the ring enchants). I've already used a fair number of dream shards to buy patterns and shit, even though I never used them.

    I mean, it's nice to be able to de your own stuff, as well as enchant it right after getting new gear, but right now, I wouldn't mind getting alot of gold to blow on shit like mammoths and hogs :)

    Is it really worth it to drop 38 sp on rings? (I'm a lock).

    Also, I am quite lazy, and starting another prof from scratch is really gonna fucking suck (that's why I paid my way up in enchanting).

    I wanna stick with tailoring because it was the very first prof I chose when I started the game, and I've been trying to get every recipe in the game for it, and I just like the prof in general.

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    You can actually make some decent money buying cheap greens on the AH, DEing them and selling the mats. It's nothing compared to other professions, but if you get lucky there is a significant turnover from buying a level 76+ green for 10-15 gold and getting 5 infinite dust or 2 great cosmics. And they always sell, without fail.

    You'd make more with something else, in all reality, but enchanting isn't just valuable to you, it's valuable to any of your friends or guildies. I keep mine just for that reason.

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  • Racist JokeRacist Joke Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    You can actually make some decent money buying cheap greens on the AH, DEing them and selling the mats. It's nothing compared to other professions, but if you get lucky there is a significant turnover from buying a level 76+ green for 10-15 gold and getting 5 infinite dust or 2 great cosmics. And they always sell, without fail.

    You'd make more with something else, in all reality, but enchanting isn't just valuable to you, it's valuable to any of your friends or guildies. I keep mine just for that reason.

    Problem with that is people price greens for stupid amounts of gold. Also, it seems lots of people in my guild are enchanters, some max level with most of the patterns.

    Guess I'll just keep looking at the AH until I find cheaper greens. So I should just look for 76+ ones?

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I think 75 also gets you 2-5 infinite dust and great essences, but I'm not sure. I usually avoid them.

    As far as price, I've never done a big search without spotting 6 or 7 greens going for less than 17 gold. A lot of them are stupidly priced, yes, but you ignore those.

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  • Racist JokeRacist Joke Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I think 75 also gets you 2-5 infinite dust and great essences, but I'm not sure. I usually avoid them.

    As far as price, I've never done a big search without spotting 6 or 7 greens going for less than 17 gold. A lot of them are stupidly priced, yes, but you ignore those.

    So I did some searching and buying, and found numerous greens around the 76-79 level, and bought any that were 15g and lower. Some DE'ed into 5 dust, some 1 essence. I even got 2 essence from a green.

    Put up the dust, bought right away. Gonna wait for the influx of essences to drop from the weekend. Figure I wait till tomorrow to sell. Most guilds tend to raid alot before reset, and those people need enchants :)

    I can't believe I never thought of doing this before. I'm gonna keep at it and see how well I do. I'm actually finding this alot of fun. I should download Auctioneer and take a look at it.

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  • PentPent Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    TheTish wrote: »
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    With inscription, the money is not in the Glyphs, it's with the Vellums and the Northern Darkmoon cards. And even the Darkmoon cards to some extent.

    You're never going to get a return on your money if you rely solely on Glyph making.

    yep yep... if you want to make gold with inscription, just do that.

    Pay no attention to me sitting at the AH making glyphs... i just do that for fun.
    *whistles innocently*
    :winky:


    In all seriousness though, it is possible to make gold with glyphs. However it does take a bit of work. Trick is to make sure you have a diverse selection of glyphs on the AH. Even with only 3 or 4 of each glyph, and only actively posting new auctions for glyphs selling over 8g each, I usually have over 500 total auctions running all the time. Not everyone wants to put the effort into keeping track of that much stuff.

    This, and if you are fanatical like me, you take down auctions that people have undercut you on and repost them every so often...it does take a lot of time though.

    Darkmoon cards just come as a side perk to having so much damned snowfall ink (it comes out of my ears)

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  • willmannyeatthatwillmannyeatthat Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I think 75 also gets you 2-5 infinite dust and great essences, but I'm not sure. I usually avoid them.

    As far as price, I've never done a big search without spotting 6 or 7 greens going for less than 17 gold. A lot of them are stupidly priced, yes, but you ignore those.

    So I did some searching and buying, and found numerous greens around the 76-79 level, and bought any that were 15g and lower. Some DE'ed into 5 dust, some 1 essence. I even got 2 essence from a green.

    Put up the dust, bought right away. Gonna wait for the influx of essences to drop from the weekend. Figure I wait till tomorrow to sell. Most guilds tend to raid alot before reset, and those people need enchants :)

    I can't believe I never thought of doing this before. I'm gonna keep at it and see how well I do. I'm actually finding this alot of fun. I should download Auctioneer and take a look at it.

    Also killing Icecrown mobs (through dailies) seems to net me a bunch of 75+ greens. Also if you want something that is not so taxing on your system, Auctionlite is very good for what I need it for.

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