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The Mac Thread - Steve Jobs steps down, Safari is sick also

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Well, it borked the video drivers. It uninstalled the custom ones and installed no replacement. So keep that installer around. You can still use the machine, it just has zero hardware acceleration until that driver is back in place.

    EDIT: I reinstalled the video driver no problem. It works better than it did before because the new version of Bootcamp seems to behave better around the new drivers. I can control display brightness on the keyboard without having to disable smartdimmer every reboot. It rolled back my audio driver too but it did that properly and left the newer version of the control panels. I'll reinstall the new one when I get around to it. Everything works fine for now.

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  • AgentflitAgentflit Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I have a Macbook Pro bought this year in August. As of a few days ago, when I choose "sleep" from the apple menu, it restarts instead. If I close the lid, it shuts down. Any ideas?

    I already tried resetting the PRAM/SMC/NVRAM.

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  • LoneIgadzraLoneIgadzra Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    So I'm torn. At the moment Parallels seems a bit better than VMWare Fusion to me - snappier, more responsive, better OS X integration of VM's - but VMWare wants to give me 25% off.

    On the other hand, I've VMWare has created a lot of problems for me by refusing to exit and sometimes using an appalling amount of CPU when idle. To compensate for this I always make sure to exit it when I'm not using it because the refusing to exit situation often forces a hard shutdown because I can't do anything or find the right process to kill.

    Actually, I can't remember now. That might have been a time machine bug with spinning up my external hard drive when idle. (Seriously, fuck time machine.)
    Kris wrote: »
    When you find and install non-apple-provided drivers for windows, does it bork anything when apple does their bootcamp updates?

    Keep in mind, Boot Camp is just a set of drivers for your Mac hardware. Installing third party (first party?) drivers from the manufacturer wouldn't have any adverse effect, unless they're the wrong drivers. Likewise, installing a Boot Camp update won't bork anything, and at worst will just replace your 'custom' drivers with the Apple-approved ones.

    Yeah, no, Apple's BC driver update process is bullshit. The old ones stay in add/remove programs, and woe-betide those who mess with them.

    I guess I've never had it go wrong per se, but the whole experience is pretty questionable, and in order to remove the video drivers so I could install the latest Catalysts from ATI that actually support OpenGL I had to go into the device manager.

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    So I'm torn. At the moment Parallels seems a bit better than VMWare Fusion to me - snappier, more responsive, better OS X integration of VM's - but VMWare wants to give me 25% off.

    On the other hand, I've VMWare has created a lot of problems for me by refusing to exit and sometimes using an appalling amount of CPU when idle. To compensate for this I always make sure to exit it when I'm not using it because the refusing to exit situation often forces a hard shutdown because I can't do anything or find the right process to kill.

    Actually, I can't remember now. That might have been a time machine bug with spinning up my external hard drive when idle. (Seriously, fuck time machine.)
    Kris wrote: »
    When you find and install non-apple-provided drivers for windows, does it bork anything when apple does their bootcamp updates?

    Keep in mind, Boot Camp is just a set of drivers for your Mac hardware. Installing third party (first party?) drivers from the manufacturer wouldn't have any adverse effect, unless they're the wrong drivers. Likewise, installing a Boot Camp update won't bork anything, and at worst will just replace your 'custom' drivers with the Apple-approved ones.

    Yeah, no, Apple's BC driver update process is bullshit. The old ones stay in add/remove programs, and woe-betide those who mess with them.

    I guess I've never had it go wrong per se, but the whole experience is pretty questionable, and in order to remove the video drivers so I could install the latest Catalysts from ATI that actually support OpenGL I had to go into the device manager.

    For what it's worth, I've had at least 2 occurances of VMWare fucking up my Boot Camp partition while importing it. Luckily not permanently, but it somehow managed to change the mount point so that OS X couldn't find it anymore, and Boot Camp wouldn't boot until I booted from the XP install disc. Can't say they've done a lot to build my trust so far, whereas Parallels has never given me any issue aside from one small glitch that their tech support took care of for me post haste.

    By the way, what kind of machine are you Boot Camping on? I've never had issues like you describe, however my personal use was limited to a late '06 MacBook and a late '08 MBP.

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  • LoneIgadzraLoneIgadzra Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    '06 MacBook Pro, 10.5.5, 2 GB RAM.

    I've definitely never had those particular issues with VMWare, not sure how the word "import" applies to using it with Boot Camp. I just tell it to start up my boot camp partition, install VMWare tools, and everything works to some degree.

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  • bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I have a RevA MacBook and am constantly having to manage free space on my 60GB HD. I ran across this:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145227
    Some of the reviews say it's basically what is in the current MacBooks, so it should work with my MacBook, right?

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I have a RevA MacBook and am constantly having to manage free space on my 60GB HD. I ran across this:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145227
    Some of the reviews say it's basically what is in the current MacBooks, so it should work with my MacBook, right?

    I imagine any 2.5" SATA drive should work...

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I have a RevA MacBook and am constantly having to manage free space on my 60GB HD. I ran across this:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145227
    Some of the reviews say it's basically what is in the current MacBooks, so it should work with my MacBook, right?

    Yep. Any 2.5" SATA drive will work fine. I put a 500gb drive in mine. The MacBooks are ridiculously simple to swap out a hard drive on. 5 minutes, a phillips 00 driver, and a small size torx or allen wrench are all you need. Or, in a pinch, I've done it with nothing but a decent pocketknife.

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    '06 MacBook Pro, 10.5.5, 2 GB RAM.

    I've definitely never had those particular issues with VMWare, not sure how the word "import" applies to using it with Boot Camp. I just tell it to start up my boot camp partition, install VMWare tools, and everything works to some degree.

    VMWare offered to "import" my boot camp partition (their phrasing, not mine) to use it. I said yes and the first couple of times things went to shit after the LONNNNNG progress bar. It did eventually work, but I think "importing" wasn't what I was looking for, as that just made a _copy_ of my Boot Camp partition. But that's what VMWare propositioned me with first, so I just said yes, like a fool.

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  • ProtoProto Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    no opera love in the OP :(

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  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    So, during my temp ban holiday, my new MacBook arrived.


    Anybody on the fence about buying one of these, just shut up and do it. I have used computers from every major manufacturer in the lasg 20 years, including every single model of Mac since about 1998. This is the greatest computer I have ever touched.

    In fact, I will quote an email I sent to my Mum and a freind (both Apple nerds who were waiting on my update)
    I've had it in my slimy claws for ooooohh, a few hours, and it really is lovely beyond words.

    Firstly, looks. This is, to my mind, the nicest looking computer Apple have made since the G5 iMac (the same design as yours Mum). The finish is immaculate - almost velvet like in it's smoothness yet never "slimy" feeling like the old glossy ones got. It's also ridiculously thin. Obviously there are proper measurement available online, but going by eye I"d say it about 2/3 of an inch or about 4 Lego Studs. The build quality is incredible - have you ever handled a gun? Me neither, but the weight and heft of this thing, combined with the solidity of it, reminds me of what I assume a gun is like. It handily kicks the crap out of both the old Macbook and MBP.

    The screen is incredible too - actually too bright to have on full volume. I'm actually sat directly in front of a window with the sun blaring through it and if I turned on the TV to play Xbox or something I would have to close the blinds, but this display is still perfectly clear with only a reflection in the top left (and even with that, it is only a distraction and I can still use that side of the screen)

    The audio is... competent. Certainly better than my old iBook, and amazing considering there's no visible speakers. Also the position of it does weird things to my audio tracking, in that I can't quite place where the sound is coming from (though I'm guessing it's from the main vents then bouncing off the screen like the old MB). I tested it with Windowlicker by Aphex Twin which is my usual test for speakers and audio stuff, and it handled it reasonably, considering.

    I haven't really chucked anything too intense at it yet but it handled Spore decently at native resolution and with all settings on medium / high - considering it has integrated graphics I very happy with that. I'm not certain about using Boot Camp on it yet, and have yet to persuade Crossover to work nicely, but I'm going to try a few other bits and pieces soon.

    The new trackpad is brilliant. I'm not sure I like the downward clicking yet, but the gesture a re mostly all excellent and I'm already using the four-finger swipe as quickly and easily as I used to use a mouse with twenty buttons. The stretch to make websites zoom in is a bit too easy to trigger, as I saw Daniela accidentally do it this morning, and the three-finger swipe to go back forth is sort of useless, except mayve in iPhoto.

    Migration was painless - iTunes shat it's pants for a bit until I deleted it's library and started over - rather than importing my track I just copied my while old Music folder into the place of the new one, and iTunes saw it straight away and set to work updating my artwork and Genius info. Very nice. It's not worth mentioning the keyboard, which is as great as it has been for years now. Needless to say it feels great on the fingers, with just enough downward movement, and a lovely silky texture. It sounds great to type on too, it's nice and quiet but makes enough to noise to give feedback (try typing on an iPhone with the sound turned off to see hwo unnerving this is)

    Speaking of sound, this thing is damn silent. "If I wasn't looking at the screen I wouldn't know it was switched on" levels of silence. I've already sold the idea to Daniela about her buying one next year based on this alone. And it stays nicely cool, a bit hot in one of the corners but the screen stays ice cold and the rest is never too hot (I have it on my lap and it's fine). Not like the old MBPs, or my old Compaq, which used to actually cause me burns on my legs.

    Anyway, I think that's all.

    (and before you mention it Brod, no I haven't missed the lack of FireWire yet)


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    Since then I have noticed a couple of niggles (I sometimes right click without meaning to, and the screen and bezel show fingerprints too easily) but, man, this thing is incredible.

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  • dodosdodos Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Has anyone got Left 4 Dead playing nicely through virtualization yet? I would love to try the PC version.

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  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Is there anything immediately available at a supermarket that I could clean my screen with? I'm going down to Big Y later to pick up some laundry detergent and I noticed the other day all the smudges on my MacBook's screen. (It's an old white one.)

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Is there anything immediately available at a supermarket that I could clean my screen with? I'm going down to Big Y later to pick up some laundry detergent and I noticed the other day all the smudges on my MacBook's screen. (It's an old white one.)

    Look for alcohol-free lens cleaner. If not the supermarket, try an eyewear store. Use the cloth that came with the macbook or a microfiber cloth that doesn't feel silky. I've found the silky ones smear and scratch while the porous, cottony ones do not.

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  • ZafinaZafina Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Does anybody know what the current state of affairs is in the DarWine project? They haven't updated their website in forever it seems, or at least since before the switch to x86 processors. I'd like to run some really simple software I wrote under windows emulation which is why I'm hesitant to shell out for a full emulation app like parallels or vmware fusion.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Zafina wrote: »
    Does anybody know what the current state of affairs is in the DarWine project? They haven't updated their website in forever it seems, or at least since before the switch to x86 processors. I'd like to run some really simple software I wrote under windows emulation which is why I'm hesitant to shell out for a full emulation app like parallels or vmware fusion.

    DarWine never really went anywhere but Crossover is based on the same stuff and works moderately well. They had a giveaway a while back where you got the pro version for free. It's back costing money again.

    http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/

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  • ZafinaZafina Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Thanks, for the link. I just remebered that my university gives free copies of Windows to all current students so I think I might try boot-camp and see how that works for me.

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  • LoneIgadzraLoneIgadzra Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    You can install WINE with MacPorts if you want. Works okay, but you gotta use the command line.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Zafina wrote: »
    Thanks, for the link. I just remebered that my university gives free copies of Windows to all current students so I think I might try boot-camp and see how that works for me.

    Don't forget:
    http://www.virtualbox.org/

    Won't work off a bootcamp partition though.

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  • TrentusTrentus Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Zafina wrote: »
    Does anybody know what the current state of affairs is in the DarWine project? They haven't updated their website in forever it seems, or at least since before the switch to x86 processors. I'd like to run some really simple software I wrote under windows emulation which is why I'm hesitant to shell out for a full emulation app like parallels or vmware fusion.

    DarWine never really went anywhere but Crossover is based on the same stuff and works moderately well. They had a giveaway a while back where you got the pro version for free. It's back costing money again.

    http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/

    You can get some more up to date Darwine builds here if you're interested. I haven't experienced any problems with it, but I also hardly ever need to use it. YMMV.

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Does anyone know why my Vista machine (and itunes) refuses to recognise my recovery mode iPod Touch?

    edit - Nevermind. I just had to reinstall/repair iTunes.

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  • Wormhole AnthropologistWormhole Anthropologist Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    dodos wrote: »
    Has anyone got Left 4 Dead playing nicely through virtualization yet? I would love to try the PC version.

    Yes I got Left 4 Dead to run and work in Fusion 2. It would not work in Paralells 4.

    It actually was "playable" in Fusion 2- I say that with quotes. It was about 12-15fps - I get about 15-25 in Bootcamp so the FPS difference was not big. The problem was that it jittered from time to time at really random times (when there was no Horde for example). Anyways... yes it runs, and pretty well - but there is a lot of work that needs to be done. It gives me hope that virtualization is getting to the point where my lazy a** may not have to dual boot anymore. YAY!

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  • dodosdodos Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    And under virtualization it runs just fine?

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  • KrisKris Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    dodos wrote: »
    Has anyone got Left 4 Dead playing nicely through virtualization yet? I would love to try the PC version.

    Yes I got Left 4 Dead to run and work in Fusion 2. It would not work in Paralells 4.

    It actually was "playable" in Fusion 2- I say that with quotes. It was about 12-15fps - I get about 15-25 in Bootcamp so the FPS difference was not big. The problem was that it jittered from time to time at really random times (when there was no Horde for example). Anyways... yes it runs, and pretty well - but there is a lot of work that needs to be done. It gives me hope that virtualization is getting to the point where my lazy a** may not have to dual boot anymore. YAY!

    Which computer do you have? Cause I'm getting much more than 15-25 with L4D, and no slowdown even during crazy madness, using bootcamp on my last rev. MBP.

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  • DritzDritz CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'm not sure about Darwine or any other offshoot of Wine but regular old Wine on OS X doesn't support openGL. It is actually an X11 problem which can't even be solved by using the XQuartz project. It should be fixed in the next release though.

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  • Wormhole AnthropologistWormhole Anthropologist Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Dritz wrote: »
    I'm not sure about Darwine or any other offshoot of Wine but regular old Wine on OS X doesn't support openGL. It is actually an X11 problem which can't even be solved by using the XQuartz project. It should be fixed in the next release though.

    So I guess thats why crossover is always doing these ghetto hacks to get stuff to half-work, lol

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  • Wormhole AnthropologistWormhole Anthropologist Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Kris wrote: »
    dodos wrote: »
    Has anyone got Left 4 Dead playing nicely through virtualization yet? I would love to try the PC version.

    Yes I got Left 4 Dead to run and work in Fusion 2. It would not work in Paralells 4.

    It actually was "playable" in Fusion 2- I say that with quotes. It was about 12-15fps - I get about 15-25 in Bootcamp so the FPS difference was not big. The problem was that it jittered from time to time at really random times (when there was no Horde for example). Anyways... yes it runs, and pretty well - but there is a lot of work that needs to be done. It gives me hope that virtualization is getting to the point where my lazy a** may not have to dual boot anymore. YAY!

    Which computer do you have? Cause I'm getting much more than 15-25 with L4D, and no slowdown even during crazy madness, using bootcamp on my last rev. MBP.

    We werent talking about bootcamp we were talking about Virtualization under Fusion 2.

    Oh wait I did say 15-25 fps on bootcamp sorry...

    I have an early-08 mbp 2.4 8600 256mb vram. most of my settings are on medium to high though so maybe thats why - plus I think VSYNC may be on.

    dodos wrote: »
    And under virtualization it runs just fine?

    Yes under virtualization - Fusion 2.

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  • VulpineVulpine Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    So my beloved MBP has been stolen from me. From my very hands. I will make you pay, oh yes, I will hunt you down and beat you.

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  • KrisKris Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Dude, that sucks. D:D:

    It was stolen right out of your hands?

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  • VulpineVulpine Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Kris wrote: »
    Dude, that sucks. D:D:

    It was stolen right out of your hands?

    Got jumped on by a couple of kids as I was walking home from university. Tore my laptop bag straight from my hands, having kicked me in the chest to get me down. Luckily they fled once they'd grabbed my valuables - remember kids, surviving is more important than technology.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Vulpine wrote: »
    Kris wrote: »
    Dude, that sucks. D:D:

    It was stolen right out of your hands?

    Got jumped on by a couple of kids as I was walking home from university. Tore my laptop bag straight from my hands, having kicked me in the chest to get me down. Luckily they fled once they'd grabbed my valuables - remember kids, surviving is more important than technology.

    Tell that to the law student who tore the baseball bat out of a burglar's hands and beat the shit out of him rather than give up his laptop.

    Granted, I think that was more about the work he had on it than the technology itself...

    That really sucks, man. That shit makes me mad.

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Vulpine wrote: »
    Kris wrote: »
    Dude, that sucks. D:D:

    It was stolen right out of your hands?

    Got jumped on by a couple of kids as I was walking home from university. Tore my laptop bag straight from my hands, having kicked me in the chest to get me down. Luckily they fled once they'd grabbed my valuables - remember kids, surviving is more important than technology.

    Bad luck. Insured?

    At least they didn't also kick the shit out of you.

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  • KrisKris Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Man, I'm glad to hear you're alright, but damn that sucks. :( Here's hoping those assholes get what's coming to them.

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  • MisanthropicMisanthropic Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Well, the good thing is all Macs are serialized so there's a good chance if you can find out the serial you will have it turn up.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Well, the good thing is all Macs are serialized so there's a good chance if you can find out the serial you will have it turn up.

    Odds are if you bought it directly from Apple via their website you can contact them and they'll have your serial number in their files.

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  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Get in touch with the police, get in touch with Apple. Maybe you'll warm Steve Jobs' flinty heart and he'll send you a shiny new one for Christmas if your other one never finds its way home. :)

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  • TrentusTrentus Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Any chance you'd be able to pull off something like this?

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Trentus wrote: »
    Any chance you'd be able to pull off something like this?

    You'd probably run afoul of shitty British data protection laws here or something.

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  • KrisKris Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Just out of curiosities sake, what do you fine gents and ladies rip your music as, and why? MP3? MP4? Apple Lossless? What bitrate?

    Having lost all my ripped music due to shitty drives and horrible backup practices, I've started re-ripping my cd's as 192kbps mp3s. However, I now own a nice pair of headphones for the first time, and before I get too invested in this process, I'm wondering if this is a decent way to rip and retain enough quality to make use of what the headphones can deliver, or if I should be thinking about a "better" music format.

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  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    256 AAC is probably the better bet. MP3 is horribly outdated, and most things will play AAC (even the 360 can, if they're not protected)

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