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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I don't hate Orson. I hate you all.

    But I just thought the idea of a Hindu weapons is neat because it's not quite as subject to the conflciting consistencies of Chinese myth.

    Plus it's a giant dude with four arms.

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    No
    Nothing is better than Orson
    Also I don't think that dude was one of THE Immortal Weapons
    He was just some dude who happened to channel a god

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    maybe bei was cool, but he wasn't cool in the indian adventure

    i'm looking forward to the next orson one-shot

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Fraction called him an immortal weapon back in January, so I'm pretty sure he is.

    Really, I'm just not that into a mythology with its own celestial bureaucracy.

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    No I get that
    But not one of THE immortal weapons
    You know, the seven guys, cool powers, heart of heaven, that whole thing

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  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Damn suckas. You made me buy the most recent issue, which made me order the 2 prior trades from amazon. I do have a question though. Does this acknowledge modern continuity or what? I'm trying to stay out of Secret Invasion territory, and this issue had Luke Cage ridin' w/ Iron Fist, so I assume they arhn't suggesting he's doing his Secret Avengers stuff and hero's for hire stuff at the same time.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    uh both Iron Fist and Luke Cage are in the Secret Avengers

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  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    uh both Iron Fist and Luke Cage are in the Secret Avengers

    Oh... well am I going to be missing out on incredibly huge amounts of side story only explained if I purchase an overwhelming amount of crossover fiction, or is this pretty self contained? I guess that's my question.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator mod
    edited September 2008
    You can understand the story just fine without reading all the backstory, although some of the payoffs and reveals may not be as cool

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    jack eddy wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    uh both Iron Fist and Luke Cage are in the Secret Avengers

    Oh... well am I going to be missing out on incredibly huge amounts of side story only explained if I purchase an overwhelming amount of crossover fiction, or is this pretty self contained? I guess that's my question.

    It's self contained, but it does take place in the shared universe

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    It works like every other book about a character in a shared universe
    Yeah they'll refer to other escapades from time to time
    But it won't be like IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY HE LOST HIS LEG READ THESE 8 BOOKS

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    yeah they don't really do that anymore.

    Even all the Secret Invasion tie-ins are self contained for the most part, except for maybe the 2 Avengers books - but if you're reading the 2 Avengers books you're reading Secret Invasion.

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  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I hardly feel like I could have had a firm understanding of whats going on in "civil war: iron man" without reading "civil war" which is all I really ment.

    As far as avengers, I've only read the initiative book one, and I'll probably buy book 2 when it comes out in december, but that means secrect invasion is hitting me at a crawl.

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    Yeah ASM is pretty much the only book where I still see the little "editor's notes" anymore, even
    I kinda like that, don't ask me why

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    jack eddy wrote: »
    I hardly feel like I could have had a firm understanding of whats going on in "civil war: iron man" without reading "civil war" which is all I really ment.

    As far as avengers, I've only read the initiative book one, and I'll probably buy book 2 when it comes out in december, but that means secrect invasion is hitting me at a crawl.

    The first arc of Spider-Man that I read was his Civil War arc
    Believe me when I say that they write comics so that everyone can understand what's going on without necessarily reading any of the other event books
    The only thing they might do is not talk about a big shake-up that happened in the main book in the other books that month
    EX They didn't come right out and say "Hey guys Cap lost" in every other book, they said to read Civil War #6-7 to find out how it ended

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  • Sharp101Sharp101 TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    They said they don't do the editors notes anymore because of the internet.

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    Yeah well fuck that I liked them
    I liked editor's notes
    Call me nostalgic because my first comics were from the late 70s/early 80s, but I like them
    Also like Bill Mantlo
    Poor bastard

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  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I actually like editors notes now and then, they are kind of neat for pointing me to a specific comic where some reference originated from. I do not like them assuming I know why there are skrulls on the planet and Luke Cage skrull is out and about and Hank Pymm is retconned. Then again, I guess they would be right to assume I know that... Argh, I'm just making dumb conversations I guess.

    So ironfist is pretty cool, huh? Gotta tell you, used to think he was a little bitch, and undeserving of the first appearance of Sabertooth. Now, after reading some of this recent material, I will gladly retract my previous stance...

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    But
    That whole first part
    That's you know a big fucking event
    It's assumed that you're reading at least the main event book since it's a status quo-changing thing

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    dont listen to wiggin

    he does not know what he's talking about here

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    No I don't honestly
    Still
    Why are Skrulls on earth I don't know maybe because we are in the middle of an invasion
    How about that

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    'Every comic is someone's first comic book'. How about that?

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    That's dumb you're dumb

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Sure, that must be it. It's not like any comics pros ever use that line at all, oh no.

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  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Actually for the last 2 years or so, the only comics I've picked up were Superman All Star and Astonishing X-men. I am no longer picking up those 2, because one is ended, and the other is effectively ended because I liked whedon's writing, not particularly too much else about it.

    I just recently picked up civil war, civil war: cap, road to civil war, civil war: iron man, and death of captain america GN's, and that filled me into that event. I just got interested in iron fist, and figured I'd read that for a while, but the only reference I have to secret invasion currently is in a book that doesn't come out until december (avengers initiative book 2).

    Again, I'm being dumb, because I read enough forums that I am filled in on any big events that would be referenced in the books.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    There has been zero reference to SI in the actual Iron Fist book anyway so the point is moot

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  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Excellent, that is what I like to hear.

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    Wildcat wrote: »
    Sure, that must be it. It's not like any comics pros ever use that line at all, oh no.

    I wanted to make some joke in this vein about how my original post was not meant seriously
    Instead I'm just going to say you're an idiot
    You're an idiot

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  • ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA
    edited September 2008
    wiggin seriously tone down the goddamn namecalling alright?

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    Yeah not a problem

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  • edited September 2008
    So what's our opinion of Duane Swierczynsk? I'm really warming up to him.

    I really liked yesterday's Orson one shot.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I am enjoying his fine work on both Cable and Iron Fist

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    I like this guy
    He did that Punisher MAX: Force of Nature one-shot a while back and that was pretty good too

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Love it.

    Orson is just too badass to be killed by the dragon-guy. That's how he did it.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Dareth Ram wrote: »
    So what's our opinion of Duane Swierczynsk? I'm really warming up to him.

    I really liked yesterday's Orson one shot.

    Still not fond of Cable, but Orson Randall and the Death Queen of California was fucking awesome, and the main Iron Fist series is just as good as when Fraction and Bru were on it..

    Camo's art was kicking all kinds of ass on the one-shot too; I think the coloring really pushed his stuff to a new level.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I think Duane is fucked with Cable no matter what because the book is about Cable.

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  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    This one shot is one of the finest Marvel comics I've read in years. The writing and artwork were both superb, but as mentioned above, the coloring is what really made it. Maybe it's because of the time period, but I almost got a detective kind of noir feeling out of it, and I loved it. LOVED IT!

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Well, that was the point.

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  • psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Indeed, that was a bloody brilliant story, i'd love to have an ongoing series about Orson having all kinds of crazy arse pulp-era detective adventures.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    man i completely forgot about the orson one shot again
    nuts

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