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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hey, my friend and I were having a small argument and I was wondering if any of you would like to weigh in.

    It started when he asked a friend of ours if she rolled her drunk friend over, onto her stomach, so she didn't swallow her tongue. I said something to the effect of, 'I'm pretty sure you're supposed to roll them over so they don't choke on their vomit.'

    He said that was one of the reasons, but the main was the tongue thing.

    That's sort of where it degenerated into a petty argument with some name calling, him picking out semantics, I admitted it was "probable" when I meant "possible" so he tried to use that against me like it would somehow make him right.

    I always heard that the only risk of tongue swallowing was during a seizure, I tried to point out that a drunk person being passed out is basically the same as a drunk person sleeping, and since I've slept many times on my back and have never swallowed my tongue, I failed to see how the risk is increased when you're drunk.

    So are we both wrong, both right, am I dumb, or is he a douchebag?

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  • Auntie ShibbyAuntie Shibby Horrible Visalia, CARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    I thought you were suppose to roll them on their side, with their arm under their head.

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  • Auntie ShibbyAuntie Shibby Horrible Visalia, CARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    It's also impossible to swallow your tongue.

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  • RialeRiale I'm a little slow Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I thought you were suppose to roll them on their side, with their arm under their head.

    This is what i've always heard. You can still choke on your vomit face up, because it may not get ejected with enough force to completely leave your throat.

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  • nateknatek unh unh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    tongue would be kinda hard to swallow

    even if it went completely limp for some reason I don't see it being possible

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  • Auntie ShibbyAuntie Shibby Horrible Visalia, CARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    So, uh I'm guessing you're both wrong Filler.

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  • RialeRiale I'm a little slow Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Riale wrote: »
    I thought you were suppose to roll them on their side, with their arm under their head.

    This is what i've always heard. You can still choke on your vomit face up, because it may not get ejected with enough force to completely leave your throat.

    Also choking on your vomit has to be on the list of 'worst ways to go'.

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  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    i'd imagine face down would actually be less dangerous than face up for the vomit part, since, when face down, gravity isn't working against them to put it down their airway

    edit: wait i misread, you were pretty alright

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  • Auntie ShibbyAuntie Shibby Horrible Visalia, CARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    natek wrote: »
    tongue would be kinda hard to swallow

    even if it went completely limp for some reason I don't see it being possible
    It's impossible unless you've had surgery to remove that little piece of cartilage underneath.

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  • crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    coke zero

    vanilla coke zero

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Riale wrote: »
    I thought you were suppose to roll them on their side, with their arm under their head.

    This is what i've always heard. You can still choke on your vomit face up, because it may not get ejected with enough force to completely leave your throat.

    Yeah, you're supposed to roll them onto their sides, although we were talking about rolling them onto their stomachs.

    The only thing that mattes is that for some reason he believes that the risk of swallowing your tongue while being passed out on your back is higher than drowning in your vomit while passed out on your back.

    Which makes little to no sense to me.

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  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    crwth wrote: »
    coke zero

    vanilla coke zero

    that is god's gift to mankind

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  • ShankusuShankusu __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    On their right side with their arm in a terribly awkward position is the correct way, and the main risk is vomit, not tongue-swallowing.

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  • nateknatek unh unh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    hmmm

    I guess the tongue can actually relax enough so that it kinda flips back and can block the airway

    so maybe it is possible?

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So, uh I'm guessing you're both wrong Filler.

    We're not debating back/side/stomach, were debating the risk of swallowing your tongue if you're passed out on your back, and if that risk is bigger than drowning in your own vomit.

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  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue

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  • jwalkjwalk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Why not just fill the bathtub with icewater and toss him in.

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Alright, sweet that's what I wanted to hear.

    that dude is a stubborn douche bag.

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  • nateknatek unh unh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    you don't "swallow" it, that is dumb

    it just falls back and blocks the airway

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  • ShankusuShankusu __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    natek wrote: »
    you don't "swallow" it, that is dumb

    it just falls back and blocks the airway

    That, uh, is not how tongues work.

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    natek wrote: »
    you don't "swallow" it, that is dumb

    it just falls back and blocks the airway

    I can't even make my tongue flex back enough to do that, I'd imagine that since the only time I've heard of that happening is during a seizure, it would be due to the constant strain and tightening of every single muscle in your body and your tongue tearing the tendons apart that keep your tongue from bending in that direction.

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  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    i can manipulate my tongue in such a way so that it sort of blocks my breathing
    but i can't imagine it laying like that naturally

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    This argument happened last saturday, and still here I am, reliving it and seething.

    I have some fucked up friendships.

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  • nateknatek unh unh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    if the muscles relax enough and you are on your back the muscles could relax enough that it would "fall" back and block the airway

    this is the best I could find
    http://www.health.com/health/library/mdp/0,,tp12620,00.html

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  • Auntie ShibbyAuntie Shibby Horrible Visalia, CARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    potatoe wrote: »
    can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue
    which is something I've said three times prior to this

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  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    potatoe wrote: »
    can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue
    which is something I've said three times prior to this

    yeah but they will actually listen to me

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  • Auntie ShibbyAuntie Shibby Horrible Visalia, CARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    potatoe wrote: »
    potatoe wrote: »
    can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue
    which is something I've said three times prior to this

    yeah but they will actually listen to me
    this makes me sad that I'm 100% right, have said it a couple times. But people won't listen to it until someone else says it and they get the credit.

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    potatoe wrote: »
    can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue
    which is something I've said three times prior to this

    I heard you, I was just looking for more people who agree. It's not something personal, I was just waiting till I got a good feel for what people thought before I felt justified.

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  • Auntie ShibbyAuntie Shibby Horrible Visalia, CARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    potatoe wrote: »
    can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue
    which is something I've said three times prior to this

    I heard you, I was just looking for more people who agree. It's not something personal, I was just waiting till I got a good feel for what people thought before I felt justified.
    Alright, cool. That actually makes me feel better.

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  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    if it's any consolation, i still love you shibby

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    potatoe wrote: »
    potatoe wrote: »
    can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue
    which is something I've said three times prior to this

    yeah but they will actually listen to me
    this makes me sad that I'm 100% right, have said it a couple times. But people won't listen to it until someone else says it and they get the credit.

    This could have been an edit, but;

    All you said was that it wasn't possible, in your first reply. I didn't want to just quote you and say, 'Oh thank god, I am right' since you didn't offer up any evidence that it's not possible. It's not that I think you're dumb, but I'd rather accept that my ideas were correct if 3 or 4 people agreed despite not having any real evidence, rather than just one unfounded agreement.

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  • musanmanmusanman Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    woodford reserve

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  • Auntie ShibbyAuntie Shibby Horrible Visalia, CARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    potatoe wrote: »
    potatoe wrote: »
    can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue
    which is something I've said three times prior to this

    yeah but they will actually listen to me
    this makes me sad that I'm 100% right, have said it a couple times. But people won't listen to it until someone else says it and they get the credit.

    This could have been an edit, but;

    All you said was that it wasn't possible, in your first reply. I didn't want to just quote you and say, 'Oh thank god, I am right' since you didn't offer up any evidence that it's not possible. It's not that I think you're dumb, but I'd rather accept that my ideas were correct if 3 or 4 people agreed despite not having any real evidence, rather than just one unfounded agreement.
    It wasn't an edit, I posted it a couple seconds before you posted saying it was nothing personal.

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  • nateknatek unh unh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    doesn't the nice picture in that article show that it IS possible?

    not necessarily swallowing but if passed out and the tongue falls/slides back like that, would be just as bad as vomit choking

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    potatoe wrote: »
    potatoe wrote: »
    can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue
    which is something I've said three times prior to this

    yeah but they will actually listen to me
    this makes me sad that I'm 100% right, have said it a couple times. But people won't listen to it until someone else says it and they get the credit.

    This could have been an edit, but;

    All you said was that it wasn't possible, in your first reply. I didn't want to just quote you and say, 'Oh thank god, I am right' since you didn't offer up any evidence that it's not possible. It's not that I think you're dumb, but I'd rather accept that my ideas were correct if 3 or 4 people agreed despite not having any real evidence, rather than just one unfounded agreement.
    It wasn't an edit, I posted it a couple seconds before you posted saying it was nothing personal.
    No, I meant I could have just edited my previous post to include that since all it did was expand on what I had said before.

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  • Auntie ShibbyAuntie Shibby Horrible Visalia, CARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    potatoe wrote: »
    if it's any consolation, i still love you shibby
    I'll only accept your love if it comes with a reach around.

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  • Auntie ShibbyAuntie Shibby Horrible Visalia, CARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    potatoe wrote: »
    potatoe wrote: »
    can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue
    which is something I've said three times prior to this

    yeah but they will actually listen to me
    this makes me sad that I'm 100% right, have said it a couple times. But people won't listen to it until someone else says it and they get the credit.

    This could have been an edit, but;

    All you said was that it wasn't possible, in your first reply. I didn't want to just quote you and say, 'Oh thank god, I am right' since you didn't offer up any evidence that it's not possible. It's not that I think you're dumb, but I'd rather accept that my ideas were correct if 3 or 4 people agreed despite not having any real evidence, rather than just one unfounded agreement.
    It wasn't an edit, I posted it a couple seconds before you posted saying it was nothing personal.
    No, I meant I could have just edited my previous post to include that since all it did was expand on what I had said before.
    post count lol

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  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    potatoe wrote: »
    if it's any consolation, i still love you shibby
    I'll only accept your love if it comes with a reach around.

    with me, everything comes with a reach around

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  • Auntie ShibbyAuntie Shibby Horrible Visalia, CARegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    potatoe wrote: »
    potatoe wrote: »
    if it's any consolation, i still love you shibby
    I'll only accept your love if it comes with a reach around.

    with me, everything comes with a reach around
    You can love me long time.

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  • peteaboda1peteaboda1 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Mother of all that is holy ginger ale is good.

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