Hey, my friend and I were having a small argument and I was wondering if any of you would like to weigh in.
It started when he asked a friend of ours if she rolled her drunk friend over, onto her stomach, so she didn't swallow her tongue. I said something to the effect of, 'I'm pretty sure you're supposed to roll them over so they don't choke on their vomit.'
He said that was one of the reasons, but the main was the tongue thing.
That's sort of where it degenerated into a petty argument with some name calling, him picking out semantics, I admitted it was "probable" when I meant "possible" so he tried to use that against me like it would somehow make him right.
I always heard that the only risk of tongue swallowing was during a seizure, I tried to point out that a drunk person being passed out is basically the same as a drunk person sleeping, and since I've slept many times on my back and have never swallowed my tongue, I failed to see how the risk is increased when you're drunk.
So are we both wrong, both right, am I dumb, or is he a douchebag?
I thought you were suppose to roll them on their side, with their arm under their head.
This is what i've always heard. You can still choke on your vomit face up, because it may not get ejected with enough force to completely leave your throat.
I thought you were suppose to roll them on their side, with their arm under their head.
This is what i've always heard. You can still choke on your vomit face up, because it may not get ejected with enough force to completely leave your throat.
Also choking on your vomit has to be on the list of 'worst ways to go'.
i'd imagine face down would actually be less dangerous than face up for the vomit part, since, when face down, gravity isn't working against them to put it down their airway
I thought you were suppose to roll them on their side, with their arm under their head.
This is what i've always heard. You can still choke on your vomit face up, because it may not get ejected with enough force to completely leave your throat.
Yeah, you're supposed to roll them onto their sides, although we were talking about rolling them onto their stomachs.
The only thing that mattes is that for some reason he believes that the risk of swallowing your tongue while being passed out on your back is higher than drowning in your vomit while passed out on your back.
We're not debating back/side/stomach, were debating the risk of swallowing your tongue if you're passed out on your back, and if that risk is bigger than drowning in your own vomit.
I can't even make my tongue flex back enough to do that, I'd imagine that since the only time I've heard of that happening is during a seizure, it would be due to the constant strain and tightening of every single muscle in your body and your tongue tearing the tendons apart that keep your tongue from bending in that direction.
can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue
which is something I've said three times prior to this
I heard you, I was just looking for more people who agree. It's not something personal, I was just waiting till I got a good feel for what people thought before I felt justified.
can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue
which is something I've said three times prior to this
I heard you, I was just looking for more people who agree. It's not something personal, I was just waiting till I got a good feel for what people thought before I felt justified.
Alright, cool. That actually makes me feel better.
can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue
which is something I've said three times prior to this
yeah but they will actually listen to me
this makes me sad that I'm 100% right, have said it a couple times. But people won't listen to it until someone else says it and they get the credit.
This could have been an edit, but;
All you said was that it wasn't possible, in your first reply. I didn't want to just quote you and say, 'Oh thank god, I am right' since you didn't offer up any evidence that it's not possible. It's not that I think you're dumb, but I'd rather accept that my ideas were correct if 3 or 4 people agreed despite not having any real evidence, rather than just one unfounded agreement.
can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue
which is something I've said three times prior to this
yeah but they will actually listen to me
this makes me sad that I'm 100% right, have said it a couple times. But people won't listen to it until someone else says it and they get the credit.
This could have been an edit, but;
All you said was that it wasn't possible, in your first reply. I didn't want to just quote you and say, 'Oh thank god, I am right' since you didn't offer up any evidence that it's not possible. It's not that I think you're dumb, but I'd rather accept that my ideas were correct if 3 or 4 people agreed despite not having any real evidence, rather than just one unfounded agreement.
It wasn't an edit, I posted it a couple seconds before you posted saying it was nothing personal.
can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue
which is something I've said three times prior to this
yeah but they will actually listen to me
this makes me sad that I'm 100% right, have said it a couple times. But people won't listen to it until someone else says it and they get the credit.
This could have been an edit, but;
All you said was that it wasn't possible, in your first reply. I didn't want to just quote you and say, 'Oh thank god, I am right' since you didn't offer up any evidence that it's not possible. It's not that I think you're dumb, but I'd rather accept that my ideas were correct if 3 or 4 people agreed despite not having any real evidence, rather than just one unfounded agreement.
It wasn't an edit, I posted it a couple seconds before you posted saying it was nothing personal.
No, I meant I could have just edited my previous post to include that since all it did was expand on what I had said before.
can't swallow your tongue unless you're a freak of nature or you've had surgery to fuck your tongue
which is something I've said three times prior to this
yeah but they will actually listen to me
this makes me sad that I'm 100% right, have said it a couple times. But people won't listen to it until someone else says it and they get the credit.
This could have been an edit, but;
All you said was that it wasn't possible, in your first reply. I didn't want to just quote you and say, 'Oh thank god, I am right' since you didn't offer up any evidence that it's not possible. It's not that I think you're dumb, but I'd rather accept that my ideas were correct if 3 or 4 people agreed despite not having any real evidence, rather than just one unfounded agreement.
It wasn't an edit, I posted it a couple seconds before you posted saying it was nothing personal.
No, I meant I could have just edited my previous post to include that since all it did was expand on what I had said before.
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It started when he asked a friend of ours if she rolled her drunk friend over, onto her stomach, so she didn't swallow her tongue. I said something to the effect of, 'I'm pretty sure you're supposed to roll them over so they don't choke on their vomit.'
He said that was one of the reasons, but the main was the tongue thing.
That's sort of where it degenerated into a petty argument with some name calling, him picking out semantics, I admitted it was "probable" when I meant "possible" so he tried to use that against me like it would somehow make him right.
I always heard that the only risk of tongue swallowing was during a seizure, I tried to point out that a drunk person being passed out is basically the same as a drunk person sleeping, and since I've slept many times on my back and have never swallowed my tongue, I failed to see how the risk is increased when you're drunk.
So are we both wrong, both right, am I dumb, or is he a douchebag?
This is what i've always heard. You can still choke on your vomit face up, because it may not get ejected with enough force to completely leave your throat.
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even if it went completely limp for some reason I don't see it being possible
Also choking on your vomit has to be on the list of 'worst ways to go'.
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edit: wait i misread, you were pretty alright
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Yeah, you're supposed to roll them onto their sides, although we were talking about rolling them onto their stomachs.
The only thing that mattes is that for some reason he believes that the risk of swallowing your tongue while being passed out on your back is higher than drowning in your vomit while passed out on your back.
Which makes little to no sense to me.
that is god's gift to mankind
I guess the tongue can actually relax enough so that it kinda flips back and can block the airway
so maybe it is possible?
We're not debating back/side/stomach, were debating the risk of swallowing your tongue if you're passed out on your back, and if that risk is bigger than drowning in your own vomit.
that dude is a stubborn douche bag.
it just falls back and blocks the airway
That, uh, is not how tongues work.
I can't even make my tongue flex back enough to do that, I'd imagine that since the only time I've heard of that happening is during a seizure, it would be due to the constant strain and tightening of every single muscle in your body and your tongue tearing the tendons apart that keep your tongue from bending in that direction.
but i can't imagine it laying like that naturally
I have some fucked up friendships.
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yeah but they will actually listen to me
I heard you, I was just looking for more people who agree. It's not something personal, I was just waiting till I got a good feel for what people thought before I felt justified.
This could have been an edit, but;
All you said was that it wasn't possible, in your first reply. I didn't want to just quote you and say, 'Oh thank god, I am right' since you didn't offer up any evidence that it's not possible. It's not that I think you're dumb, but I'd rather accept that my ideas were correct if 3 or 4 people agreed despite not having any real evidence, rather than just one unfounded agreement.
not necessarily swallowing but if passed out and the tongue falls/slides back like that, would be just as bad as vomit choking
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