(Dark, Mighty, New) Avengers Assemble! Long Live the Dark Reign

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  • psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    And it keeps you at the kind of power level that makes you impractical to use in most stories because you can just Deus Ex Machina the problem away.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I'm pretty sure he's gotten a little more indepth in other places, but here's a quote from Bendis at a Baltimore Comic-Con Q&A
    Q: Why isn't Dr. Strange involved in Secret Invasion?

    Bendis: He has failed as a Sorcerer Supreme, so the question is -- if Dr. Strange isn't the Sorcerer Supreme, who is? That will all be answered in New Avengers post-Secret Invasion.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Got the new issue of NA yesterday. It's pretty good.
    Long story short: Madame Masque is captured by SHIELD agents (skrulls). This is directly after the New Avengers finished beating up The Hood's super-villain group. The Hood rolls up and kills several of the Skrulls, discovering in the process that they're Skrulls who were planning to replace Madame Masque to infiltrate the Hood's crew. He calls a meeting with the rest of his crew, all of whom we discover he has broken out of jail (he seriously is like Cloak with guns). At the meeting, they have a captured SHIELD Skrull, who they torture until he admits the Skrull plan. The Hood then does some hoodoo to determine if there are any Skrulls, then promptly kills the one Skrull in the group. They burn the warehouse and bodies, then the Hood tells them that he's going to decide what to do. Later, the Hood is at his apartment, and he threatens to get rid of the Hood if the demon inside it doesn't answer his questions. The demon appears, and it's Dormammu.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Oo ee, sounds good. I'll be sure to check it out.

    Also, is Madame Masque hideously scarred, or just a little scarred? I mean, I know Tony was in love with her for a while, so I figure she's not quite Deadpool ugly.

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  • frayfray Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I guess I didn't realise Sorcerer Supreme was anything more than a cool title.

    And yeah, gonna have to get that new NA.

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  • delphinusdelphinus Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The next in line is Doom, and doesnt the winner get to keep the Eye of Agamotto?

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Arrgh, tomorrow can't come soon enough. I still can't believe this series came out on time, even with Bendis and Yu at the helm.

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  • TeaSpoonTeaSpoon Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    wwtMask wrote: »
    Got the new issue of NA yesterday. It's pretty good.
    DIRTY EVIL SPOILERS

    Whoa, that was dangerous. I reflex-clicked and hurt my neck after I forcibly ripped my eyes from the screen. And then a second time when I quoted that post.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    the question is will Doom even want the be Sorceror Supreme

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  • VirralVirral Registered User
    edited October 2008
    He's wanted it in the past I believe

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  • FCDFCD Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    It would suit his ego to be both Ruler and Greatest Mystic of the Earth.

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  • mattharvestmattharvest Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Virral wrote: »
    He's wanted it in the past I believe

    There was a rather excellent What If? wherein he became Sorcerer Supreme.

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  • descdesc the '87 stick up kids Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Oh snap, I didn't even realize issue 7 was out today. I just casually wandered over to the comics shipped today list and BAM. There it was. Delicious, delicious issue 7.

    I'm pumped on New Avengers being out today, as well. And X-Men legacy for good measure.

    I thought SI X-Men 3 was out this week, but it turns out to be next week. Curses.

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  • FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Soooo.
    The issue was great. Veranke dead? That was fast. Expected her to die in an epic 1v1 or something. Janet's a bomb, we all saw that coming. Noh Varr is going to be a hero, and Luke and Jessica's baby is in the hands of Skrull Jarvis. That "BOOM!" right after he took the baby, was it Noh Varr? I got confused there.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Faynor wrote: »
    Soooo.
    The issue was great. Veranke dead? That was fast. Expected her to die in an epic 1v1 or something. Janet's a bomb, we all saw that coming. Noh Varr is going to be a hero, and Luke and Jessica's baby is in the hands of Skrull Jarvis. That "BOOM!" right after he took the baby, was it Noh Varr? I got confused there.
    I haven't read it yet, but does it explain how he isn't dead?

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  • FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Nope. It just shows Jessica watching TV, and she's all "I have to go help my husband, take care of my baby Jarvis. I may not come back tears blah blah. This Jarvis even had brown eyes.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Oh gods, I hope Bendis didn't miss that.

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Welp, I still feel the same way about Secret Invasion

    It's got good parts and bad parts

    although I felt this issue especially was catering to "fanboys"

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    WOOOOOOOOOOOPS WRONG THREAD

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Sars if you didnt enjoy
    Clint picking up the bow+arrow and murdering Veranke by shooting her in the fucking face


    I will be cross with you

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Sars if you didnt enjoy
    Clint picking up the bow+arrow and murdering Veranke by shooting her in the fucking face


    I will be cross with you
    ehhh
    we already had that moment earlier and Veranke is killed by one arrow to the jaw after going toe to toe with like half the marvel U in that fight? oh plus I think stark should've killed her

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I thought the Clint scene was a little contrived.
    I also don't think Veranka is dead. She was just caught off guard and seriously injured.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Also I loved that one page splash where
    Uatu
    appears.

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  • Rubber SledRubber Sled Registered User
    edited October 2008
    I've been a little put off by how easily these Skrulls die, well, the less Super-Skrully ones at least...Regular bullets, knives, etc., are all it takes? Seems like it should be harder to kill a shape-shifter.

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  • Kusanagi02Kusanagi02 Registered User
    edited October 2008
    I've been a little put off by how easily these Skrulls die, well, the less Super-Skrully ones at least...Regular bullets, knives, etc., are all it takes? Seems like it should be harder to kill a shape-shifter.

    Just because they have the power sets of the heroes doesn't necessarily make them invincible.
    Good example of this is the mutants X-men. A good chunk of that group could get taken out easily by a bullet.

    Anyways, can't wait till Issue #8 where we see Tony confronting Skrull Jarvis w/ baby.
    Hopefully we also see a ship or something land that has all the heroes that were replaced.

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  • FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Well,
    Black Bolt was on his own ship, as they were trying to harness his powers. They could be keeping Heroes in different places, similarly.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Kusanagi02 wrote: »
    I've been a little put off by how easily these Skrulls die, well, the less Super-Skrully ones at least...Regular bullets, knives, etc., are all it takes? Seems like it should be harder to kill a shape-shifter.

    Just because they have the power sets of the heroes doesn't necessarily make them invincible.
    Good example of this is the mutants X-men. A good chunk of that group could get taken out easily by a bullet.

    They're all shapeshifters, though.

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  • FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Shapeshifting aside, Clint is still awesome.
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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I thought the Clint scene was a little contrived.
    I also don't think Veranka is dead. She was just caught off guard and seriously injured.

    All fiction is based on contrivance.

    That said, I loved this issue.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I thought the Clint scene was a little contrived.
    I also don't think Veranka is dead. She was just caught off guard and seriously injured.

    All fiction is based on contrivance.

    That said, I loved this issue.

    Yeah, but usually it's a little more well-thought out than someone with a bow happening to get seriously injured right next to Clint Barton.

    I would've preferred it if, say, Clint instead disarmed a Hawkeye Skrull and then used his bow.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    But that has no meaning.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Meaning as in what?

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I would've preferred it if, say, Clint instead disarmed a Hawkeye Skrull and then used his bow.
    I do think the impact of the scene was lessened by the fact that a really scene occurred in an earlier issue. But remember, Kate's bow is actually his bow, as seen in the YA: Hawkeye issue. If you're aware of that, I think the scene seems more special.

    It's like King Arthur picking up Excalibur. Or Captain America being reunited with his shield.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Munch wrote: »
    It's like King Arthur picking up Excalibur. Or Captain America being reunited with his shield.

    Exactly.

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  • HankScorpioHankScorpio Registered User
    edited October 2008
    Sars_Boy wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Sars if you didnt enjoy
    Clint picking up the bow+arrow and murdering Veranke by shooting her in the fucking face


    I will be cross with you
    ehhh
    we already had that moment earlier and Veranke is killed by one arrow to the jaw after going toe to toe with like half the marvel U in that fight? oh plus I think stark should've killed her
    I don't think the arrow went through the jaw, it looks to me like it hit her at tha base of the brain stem in the back of the neck and came out her cheek right near her mouth, she is twisting her neck which makes it harder to see. Which would explain why she died.

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Munch wrote: »
    I would've preferred it if, say, Clint instead disarmed a Hawkeye Skrull and then used his bow.
    I do think the impact of the scene was lessened by the fact that a really scene occurred in an earlier issue. But remember, Kate's bow is actually his bow, as seen in the YA: Hawkeye issue. If you're aware of that, I think the scene seems more special.

    It's like King Arthur picking up Excalibur. Or Captain America being reunited with his shield.

    Not to mention, he's taken her somewhat under his wing in terms of training so it's not really contrived that he would be fighting near her.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Munch wrote: »
    It's like King Arthur picking up Excalibur. Or Captain America being reunited with his shield.

    Exactly.
    More like Spider-Man being reunited with his web-shooter. The bow is only special because he gave it to Kate to signal his approval of her carrying his name. It means more to her than it does to him, and as far as he is concerned he could be using any bow.

    Not that SI even hinted at their relationship. Fuck, Kate is lit on fire immediately after she shows up. The only reason she's even there is so Bendis can put a bow in Hawkeye's hands.

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    As opposed to what though? It's fiction and that's exactly how fiction works. I just don't really understand what the issue is.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    As opposed to what though? It's fiction and that's exactly how fiction works. I just don't really understand what the issue is.

    Chekhov's gun usually isn't introduced one minute before it's fired.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    She didn't just appear in the story out of nowhere though.

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