I still can't way to see Wanda's reaction to Vision. And, well, everyone's reaction to Wanda.
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List revised:
U.S. Agent - So lame, he got sent to Canada
Iron Man - Douchebag
Hercules - Too hairy
Scarlet Witch - Always seems to cause lots of shit to go wrong
Wifebeater Wasp - Didn't really care about him until he got abducted, still kinda don't
Jocasta - Team only needs one robot
Hulk - They shot him into space because he was too dangerous, then he conquered an entire planet and brought it back with him. Leave him in crazy jail
Vision - Going to get torn in half... again
Stature - Only interesting character on the team, should have left her in Young Avengers. That book needs some loving, please don't let it die.
There's too many characters I just flat out don't like to read this book. There's just too many characters, period. Leave Stature and Vision on the YA, leave Hulk in the nuthouse, leave Scarlet Witch in her sleepy mountain town, and we might have a decent book.
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U.S. Agent - So lame, he got sent to Canada
Iron Man - Douchebag
Hercules - Too hairy
Scarlet Witch - Always seems to cause lots of shit to go wrong
Wifebeater Wasp - Didn't really care about him until he got abducted, still kinda don't
Jocasta - Team only needs one robot
Hulk - They shot him into space because he was too dangerous, then he conquered an entire planet and brought it back with him. Leave him in crazy jail
Vision - Going to get torn in half... again
Stature - Only interesting character on the team, should have left her in Young Avengers. That book needs some loving, please don't let it die.
There's too many characters I just flat out don't like to read this book. There's just too many characters, period. Leave Stature and Vision on the YA, leave Hulk in the nuthouse, leave Scarlet Witch in her sleepy mountain town, and we might have a decent book
While I'm not a fan of U.S. Agent, and I've already expressed nervousness about the Hulk, you don't like Hercules because he's too hairy? And you don't like Hank because what, you don't know much about him? Great time to learn. Wanda never caused a lot of shit to go wrong that much until Disassembled and House of M, and this is her first major reintroduction to the Marvel Universe since then, which is enough to cause interest. Why is the Vision going to get torn in half again?
Between all the characters on the team and all the different character dynamics on the team, and Slott, it's going to be good.
Also, I thought of something earlier. Slott said he planned on doing an Ultron arc eventually. What if Ultron keeps his..her...it's Janet form? That'll really fuck with Pym, and be kind of wierd for Jocasta.
I'm wondering if the guy even reads Marvel comics. Read a few issues of Incredible Herc, it makes all the difference. Also, Hulk has been out of crazy jail since about a month after he was put inside of crazy jail.
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Hooraydiation wrote: And I don't care how distraught you are. It's just impolite to shoot yourself when someone has their dick inside you.
So... is this going to be World War Hulk era Hulk or the one from Loeb's current Hulk run (is he savage again? I assumed he was but I'm not paying for Hulk so...)
almost all the people on that team seem to have one major recent fuckup under their belt
I don't forgive easily. Once you fuck something up, you have to kind of prove yourself a little bit before you get thrown on an Avengers team. I am a bit mad they're taking a couple of Young Avengers away, because that book could be wtfawesome if they'd just keep it going, especially Cassie, she could be so great.
Wanda destroyed the Avengers and wiped out most of the mutant population. The only thing that doesn't classify her as a villain is that she can plead temporary insanity. Same with the Hulk, a simple "My bad, guys" doesn't give you a ticket out of almost destroying the world.
They really should just stop MA, this would be a great time to do so. With the addition to another Avengers team, it's getting too crowded. Ms Marvel joining the New Avengers just makes that team 150% awesome, and she's going to kill Norman anyway, so we don't need Tony's team around to get in her way.
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almost all the people on that team seem to have one major recent fuckup under their belt
I don't forgive easily. Once you fuck something up, you have to kind of prove yourself a little bit before you get thrown on an Avengers team. I am a bit mad they're taking a couple of Young Avengers away, because that book could be wtfawesome if they'd just keep it going, especially Cassie, she could be so great.
Wanda destroyed the Avengers and wiped out most of the mutant population. The only thing that doesn't classify her as a villain is that she can plead temporary insanity. Same with the Hulk, a simple "My bad, guys" doesn't give you a ticket out of almost destroying the world.
They really should just stop MA, this would be a great time to do so. With the addition to another Avengers team, it's getting too crowded. Ms Marvel joining the New Avengers just makes that team 150% awesome, and she's going to kill Norman anyway, so we don't need Tony's team around to get in her way.
Ergh. Issue 21, the team is forming. You haven't even read it! How do you know that an event happens where something like everyone is royally fucked until Wanda or one or Hulk saves them? It's not like Issue 21 is just going to be "Oh hey, these are the Avengers now, like them. Oh, and they're all perfect, and they're the perfect team!" If they weren't all a little bit of a fuck up, it would be boring. It's the start of Slott's run. You don't know what happens.
almost all the people on that team seem to have one major recent fuckup under their belt
I don't forgive easily. Once you fuck something up, you have to kind of prove yourself a little bit before you get thrown on an Avengers team. I am a bit mad they're taking a couple of Young Avengers away, because that book could be wtfawesome if they'd just keep it going, especially Cassie, she could be so great.
Wanda destroyed the Avengers and wiped out most of the mutant population. The only thing that doesn't classify her as a villain is that she can plead temporary insanity. Same with the Hulk, a simple "My bad, guys" doesn't give you a ticket out of almost destroying the world.
They really should just stop MA, this would be a great time to do so. With the addition to another Avengers team, it's getting too crowded. Ms Marvel joining the New Avengers just makes that team 150% awesome, and she's going to kill Norman anyway, so we don't need Tony's team around to get in her way.
Ergh. Issue 21, the team is forming. You haven't even read it! How do you know that an event happens where something like everyone is royally fucked until Wanda or one or Hulk saves them? It's not like Issue 21 is just going to be "Oh hey, these are the Avengers now, like them. Oh, and they're all perfect, and they're the perfect team!" If they weren't all a little bit of a fuck up, it would be boring. It's the start of Slott's run. You don't know what happens.
It would take something pretty big for me to flip my opinion on Tony, Wanda and Hulk. Something at least on par with what they did to make me not like them. The 3 of them have done more bad shit to the MU than most of the villains ever could. Top that with taking 2 of the Young Avengers' members, and they've effectively ruined 2 teams for me.
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almost all the people on that team seem to have one major recent fuckup under their belt
I don't forgive easily. Once you fuck something up, you have to kind of prove yourself a little bit before you get thrown on an Avengers team. I am a bit mad they're taking a couple of Young Avengers away, because that book could be wtfawesome if they'd just keep it going, especially Cassie, she could be so great.
Wanda destroyed the Avengers and wiped out most of the mutant population. The only thing that doesn't classify her as a villain is that she can plead temporary insanity. Same with the Hulk, a simple "My bad, guys" doesn't give you a ticket out of almost destroying the world.
They really should just stop MA, this would be a great time to do so. With the addition to another Avengers team, it's getting too crowded. Ms Marvel joining the New Avengers just makes that team 150% awesome, and she's going to kill Norman anyway, so we don't need Tony's team around to get in her way.
Ergh. Issue 21, the team is forming. You haven't even read it! How do you know that an event happens where something like everyone is royally fucked until Wanda or one or Hulk saves them? It's not like Issue 21 is just going to be "Oh hey, these are the Avengers now, like them. Oh, and they're all perfect, and they're the perfect team!" If they weren't all a little bit of a fuck up, it would be boring. It's the start of Slott's run. You don't know what happens.
It would take something pretty big for me to flip my opinion on Tony, Wanda and Hulk. Something at least on par with what they did to make me not like them. The 3 of them have done more bad shit to the MU than most of the villains ever could. Top that with taking 2 of the Young Avengers' members, and they've effectively ruined 2 teams for me.
I can see Tony, if only because Marvel tried to cast him in that "I'm more right than you" light for a while, but I will box you to the death on Wanda, and I question you hating the Hulk. State your views, and be prepared to be rebuffed!
I can see Tony, if only because Marvel tried to cast him in that "I'm more right than you" light for a while, but I will box you to the death on Wanda, and I question you hating the Hulk. State your views, and be prepared to be rebuffed!
I already stated my view:
Hulk - They shot him into space because he was too dangerous, then he conquered an entire planet and brought it back with him. Leave him in crazy jail
I don't read a lot of the Hulk. WWH has been my main exposure to him in a long time. I just don't like the differences that he has under different writers. Professor Hulk, Savage Hulk, Joe Fixit? Is Bruce's brain in control of the Hulk, or is he a snarling green animal with no thought process?
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I can see Tony, if only because Marvel tried to cast him in that "I'm more right than you" light for a while, but I will box you to the death on Wanda, and I question you hating the Hulk. State your views, and be prepared to be rebuffed!
I already stated my view:
Hulk - They shot him into space because he was too dangerous, then he conquered an entire planet and brought it back with him. Leave him in crazy jail
I don't read a lot of the Hulk. WWH has been my main exposure to him in a long time. I just don't like the differences that he has under different writers. Professor Hulk, Savage Hulk, Joe Fixit? Is Bruce's brain in control of the Hulk, or is he a snarling green animal with no thought process?
Wanda did not decimate the entire mutant population, Wanda took away their powers. The vast majority are still alive, even without their abilties. Wanda went through a few huge fucking fuck-ups that caused a mental breakdown. She lost her kids, then her brother convinced her to change reality because she was going to die. Magneto always put Mutants, and being a Mutant, before his children so why wouldn't she blame mutation as the root cause of her shitty life? A lot of mutants didn't want their powers; a lot were better off without them. You can't act like it's a travesty that Rapey McExplodes a lot doesn't go to P.S. 118 anymore. While some people are blessed, they were still cursed with the fact that they were going to be looked down upon because they were a mutant.
Hulk has always been a force of nature. You can't really blame the big lug when he's stupid, and you must remember, he came back from that planet because, why? He thought that the same people that lied to him and sent him away decided to fuck him one more time and killed his wife. Even if he was misguided in that, the Illuminati were still pricks. Regardless, as previously mentioned, Hulk hasn't been in crazy jail since pretty much issue 3 of the Loebing Loeb of Loeb Hulk #3 or whatever.
Edit: You didn't read Planet Hulk? You can't really complain about how much of a dick he is if you haven't seen why he has his motives. o_O
Edit2: Sorry for typing so much. I like Wanda, and I think this Mighty Avengers will be good, but I have no idea why I'm getting so vehement about it!
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I think a YA book would be entertaining, if only for Hawkingbird sniping at Cassie joining the Initiative.
I can see Tony, if only because Marvel tried to cast him in that "I'm more right than you" light for a while, but I will box you to the death on Wanda, and I question you hating the Hulk. State your views, and be prepared to be rebuffed!
I already stated my view:
Hulk - They shot him into space because he was too dangerous, then he conquered an entire planet and brought it back with him. Leave him in crazy jail
I don't read a lot of the Hulk. WWH has been my main exposure to him in a long time. I just don't like the differences that he has under different writers. Professor Hulk, Savage Hulk, Joe Fixit? Is Bruce's brain in control of the Hulk, or is he a snarling green animal with no thought process?
Wanda did not decimate the entire mutant population, Wanda took away their powers. The vast majority are still alive, even without their abilties. Wanda went through a few huge fucking fuck-ups that caused a mental breakdown. She lost her kids, then her brother convinced her to change reality because she was going to die. Magneto always put Mutants, and being a Mutant, before his children so why wouldn't she blame mutation as the root cause of her shitty life? A lot of mutants didn't want their powers; a lot were better off without them. You can't act like it's a travesty that Rapey McExplodes a lot doesn't go to P.S. 118 anymore. While some people are blessed, they were still cursed with the fact that they were going to be looked down upon because they were a mutant.
Hulk has always been a force of nature. You can't really blame the big lug when he's stupid, and you must remember, he came back from that planet because, why? He thought that the same people that lied to him and sent him away decided to fuck him one more time and killed his wife. Even if he was misguided in that, the Illuminati were still pricks. Regardless, as previously mentioned, Hulk hasn't been in crazy jail since pretty much issue 3 of the Loebing Loeb of Loeb Hulk #3 or whatever.
Edit: You didn't read Planet Hulk? You can't really complain about how much of a dick he is if you haven't seen why he has his motives. o_O
Wanda is too powerful magically for her own good. The Hulk is too powerful physically (depending on RAGE!) for his own good. Both of them on the same team isn't good for anyone.
I didn't read Planet Hulk, but I know the basic gist of why he was mad and why he brought his army with him to kill the Illuminati. I never said he wasn't validated in his reasons, I just said that he's too dangerous. He might have had a giant change in the 3 issues of his new series, but it's not being showcased yet in anything else, so until I see it being a major happening (which it probably will in the new MA book), my stance is still cautious and defensive.
Wanda didn't go a little nuts because of a few small items, it's true. But what she did was essentially lash out like a teenager because of lack of affection from daddy. The events leading up to this (her children, etc) did play into it, but the end result, and those three words, are what she is most famous for. I don't want someone with so much power acting like a child, she needs training with Dr. Strange or someone of equal magical stature for a long while before she's okay with me.
I think a YA book would be entertaining, if only for Hawkingbird sniping at Cassie joining the Initiative.
I'm still dying to see what happens to Kate, with all the Dark Avengers Hawkeye business.
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They need to "burn out" Wanda or something... take her back to her old-school power-levels (I know she had access to MORE, but lets drop that way back down).
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If you looked at the preview penciled pages, you can see why the MA's lineup is gonna be what it's going to be.
Basically, it opens up a little like the League Of Losers story in Marvel Team-Up, with Wanda popping all over the planet apparently and pulling any heroes she can out of the crapstorm that's going on.
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Doesn't Vision already have a little something something going on with Stature?
That'd be swell.
okay love square
vision be big pimpin'
U.S. Agent - So lame, he got sent to Canada
Iron Man - Douchebag
Hercules - Too hairy
Scarlet Witch - Always seems to cause lots of shit to go wrong
Wifebeater Wasp - Didn't really care about him until he got abducted, still kinda don't
Jocasta - Team only needs one robot
Hulk - They shot him into space because he was too dangerous, then he conquered an entire planet and brought it back with him. Leave him in crazy jail
Vision - Going to get torn in half... again
Stature - Only interesting character on the team, should have left her in Young Avengers. That book needs some loving, please don't let it die.
There's too many characters I just flat out don't like to read this book. There's just too many characters, period. Leave Stature and Vision on the YA, leave Hulk in the nuthouse, leave Scarlet Witch in her sleepy mountain town, and we might have a decent book.
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While I'm not a fan of U.S. Agent, and I've already expressed nervousness about the Hulk, you don't like Hercules because he's too hairy? And you don't like Hank because what, you don't know much about him? Great time to learn. Wanda never caused a lot of shit to go wrong that much until Disassembled and House of M, and this is her first major reintroduction to the Marvel Universe since then, which is enough to cause interest. Why is the Vision going to get torn in half again?
Between all the characters on the team and all the different character dynamics on the team, and Slott, it's going to be good.
Also, I thought of something earlier. Slott said he planned on doing an Ultron arc eventually. What if Ultron keeps his..her...it's Janet form? That'll really fuck with Pym, and be kind of wierd for Jocasta.
I'm interested to see how and why she ends up on the team.
I know, right. He's blaspheming a great line-up.
I'm wondering if the guy even reads Marvel comics. Read a few issues of Incredible Herc, it makes all the difference. Also, Hulk has been out of crazy jail since about a month after he was put inside of crazy jail.
Hooraydiation wrote: And I don't care how distraught you are. It's just impolite to shoot yourself when someone has their dick inside you.
Depends on if Slott wants to follow Loeb's lead or not
I'd be all for him not following Loeb, though.
so it's not even like Loeb is paying attention to Loeb
I don't forgive easily. Once you fuck something up, you have to kind of prove yourself a little bit before you get thrown on an Avengers team. I am a bit mad they're taking a couple of Young Avengers away, because that book could be wtfawesome if they'd just keep it going, especially Cassie, she could be so great.
Wanda destroyed the Avengers and wiped out most of the mutant population. The only thing that doesn't classify her as a villain is that she can plead temporary insanity. Same with the Hulk, a simple "My bad, guys" doesn't give you a ticket out of almost destroying the world.
They really should just stop MA, this would be a great time to do so. With the addition to another Avengers team, it's getting too crowded. Ms Marvel joining the New Avengers just makes that team 150% awesome, and she's going to kill Norman anyway, so we don't need Tony's team around to get in her way.
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Ergh. Issue 21, the team is forming. You haven't even read it! How do you know that an event happens where something like everyone is royally fucked until Wanda or one or Hulk saves them? It's not like Issue 21 is just going to be "Oh hey, these are the Avengers now, like them. Oh, and they're all perfect, and they're the perfect team!" If they weren't all a little bit of a fuck up, it would be boring. It's the start of Slott's run. You don't know what happens.
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I don't read anything hulk not written by pak or david so you might be right faynor.
also spookymuffins come on now
It would take something pretty big for me to flip my opinion on Tony, Wanda and Hulk. Something at least on par with what they did to make me not like them. The 3 of them have done more bad shit to the MU than most of the villains ever could. Top that with taking 2 of the Young Avengers' members, and they've effectively ruined 2 teams for me.
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Might as well use the characters in the meantime, to maintain interest.
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I can see Tony, if only because Marvel tried to cast him in that "I'm more right than you" light for a while, but I will box you to the death on Wanda, and I question you hating the Hulk. State your views, and be prepared to be rebuffed!
He just doesn't like nice things.
Yeah, right. They're going to cancel one of the highest-selling books that is consistently in the top 10 (five, even?).
I already stated my view:
Hulk - They shot him into space because he was too dangerous, then he conquered an entire planet and brought it back with him. Leave him in crazy jail
I don't read a lot of the Hulk. WWH has been my main exposure to him in a long time. I just don't like the differences that he has under different writers. Professor Hulk, Savage Hulk, Joe Fixit? Is Bruce's brain in control of the Hulk, or is he a snarling green animal with no thought process?
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Wanda did not decimate the entire mutant population, Wanda took away their powers. The vast majority are still alive, even without their abilties. Wanda went through a few huge fucking fuck-ups that caused a mental breakdown. She lost her kids, then her brother convinced her to change reality because she was going to die. Magneto always put Mutants, and being a Mutant, before his children so why wouldn't she blame mutation as the root cause of her shitty life? A lot of mutants didn't want their powers; a lot were better off without them. You can't act like it's a travesty that Rapey McExplodes a lot doesn't go to P.S. 118 anymore. While some people are blessed, they were still cursed with the fact that they were going to be looked down upon because they were a mutant.
Hulk has always been a force of nature. You can't really blame the big lug when he's stupid, and you must remember, he came back from that planet because, why? He thought that the same people that lied to him and sent him away decided to fuck him one more time and killed his wife. Even if he was misguided in that, the Illuminati were still pricks. Regardless, as previously mentioned, Hulk hasn't been in crazy jail since pretty much issue 3 of the Loebing Loeb of Loeb Hulk #3 or whatever.
Edit: You didn't read Planet Hulk? You can't really complain about how much of a dick he is if you haven't seen why he has his motives. o_O
Edit2: Sorry for typing so much. I like Wanda, and I think this Mighty Avengers will be good, but I have no idea why I'm getting so vehement about it!
Damn, man. Them and Cap and Natalia and Falcon need to be one of Fury's cells in Secret Warriors.
Almost any of the writers who did YA Presents would be swell, but the best (Bru and Fraction) are just too busy already.
Wanda is too powerful magically for her own good. The Hulk is too powerful physically (depending on RAGE!) for his own good. Both of them on the same team isn't good for anyone.
I didn't read Planet Hulk, but I know the basic gist of why he was mad and why he brought his army with him to kill the Illuminati. I never said he wasn't validated in his reasons, I just said that he's too dangerous. He might have had a giant change in the 3 issues of his new series, but it's not being showcased yet in anything else, so until I see it being a major happening (which it probably will in the new MA book), my stance is still cautious and defensive.
Wanda didn't go a little nuts because of a few small items, it's true. But what she did was essentially lash out like a teenager because of lack of affection from daddy. The events leading up to this (her children, etc) did play into it, but the end result, and those three words, are what she is most famous for. I don't want someone with so much power acting like a child, she needs training with Dr. Strange or someone of equal magical stature for a long while before she's okay with me.
I'm still dying to see what happens to Kate, with all the Dark Avengers Hawkeye business.
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Basically, it opens up a little like the League Of Losers story in Marvel Team-Up, with Wanda popping all over the planet apparently and pulling any heroes she can out of the crapstorm that's going on.
Let's Play Final Fantasy 'II' (Ch10 - 5/17/10)
Otherwise I'd be pretty okay with the line up.
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