[Wii] Two Years Later - Discuss

maximumzero

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Will Wright wrote:

Somebody asked me what I thought next generation meant and what about the PlayStation 3 was next generation. The only next gen system I've seen is the Wii – the PS3 and the Xbox 360 feel like better versions of the last, but pretty much the same game with incremental improvement. Bu tht eWii feels like a major jump – not that the graphics are more powerful, but that it hits a completely different demographic. In some sense I see the Wii as the most significant thing that's happened, at least on the console side, in quite a while.

So in a month we'll be coming up on the second anniversary of Nintendo's little white money printer. Remember when they first revealed the name and we were all like WTF? And then they revealed the remote and we were like WTF?

And then they launched the thing and it quickly blew past everyone else in sales while all the people that participated in the PS3 launch riots and subsequent failed eBay sales returned their console?

What's your favorite game? What games are you looking forward to? Discuss.

I personally feel that Nintendo is doing everything right this generation. They put out a great piece of hardware at a great price that strived to be different--and it's paying off. Nintendo could be the only developer for the thing and there'd still be enough software for it to be worth a purchase.

And I feel that by the end of the generation WiiWare & the Virtual Console will make up the best software lineup out of the three console's respective Downloadable Game Services.

Darlan

I'm in the boat that's extremely dissapointed with the Wii-specific lineup, but every here and there I'll play some of the masterful Mario Galaxy and marvel at the main menu full of so many fantastic memories, all accessible without switching disks or anything...Super Metriod, Link to the Past, Super Mario World, Ocarina of Time, Mario 3, Sonic 2...all just...there.

The virtual console is one of the better anythings ever. Without it, my Wii would be sold so fast.

Kazhiim

interesting platform

awful, butts-out-the-ass game selection

PeekingDuck

My favorite game is Mario Galaxy (one of those make you feel like a kid again games). However, I was/am so disappointed with the line-up like the above poster that I got rid of it while the sale price was still high. I realize I'm not their target market anymore, but jesus, throw me a frickin bone here. Where are the sharks with laser beams?

Crimson King

Kazhiim wrote: »

interesting platform

awful, butts-out-the-ass game selection

Except for a few golden standouts.

The Dude With Herpes

For Wii specific games I'll have to go with SMG. I still haven't played MP:3 yet, though it's been sitting on my shelf for a well over a year.

But much for the VC.

I was about to sell my Wii a few weeks ago, but the Nintendo press conference gave me more hope. Also it's the only game system I can get my wife to touch and I don't want to lose that.

Smashism

The only reason I still have a wii is because of Mad World and Monster Hunter 3.
Other than this, it is a really big paperweight.

PeekingDuck

The Dude With Herpes wrote: »

For Wii specific games I'll have to go with SMG. I still haven't played MP:3 yet, though it's been sitting on my shelf for a well over a year.

But much for the VC.

I was about to sell my Wii a few weeks ago, but the Nintendo press conference gave me more hope. Also it's the only game system I can get my wife to touch and I don't want to lose that.

The wife factor is a big one and why we bought the thing in the first place. She likes Rock Band, Viva Pinata, and LittleBigPlanet though so I'm doing okay there still.

RidleySaria

Actually, the remote was unveiled before the name.

As for games, I gotta give a shout out to Boom Blox. Man, it was great to see a third party actually get it, you know? It's not my favorite Wii game but it's really something special.

taliosfalcon

I regret purchasing the wii, much like the gamecube. Its a great system, and has a lot of good games, just not a lot of good games that appeal to me =\

UnbreakableVow

There are plenty of good games on the Wii, and plenty of good ones coming. The interesting thing about it is that it's the least-powerful of the three, and the cheapest to develop for; therefore, much like the PS2 before it, Wii is going to get a lot more of the "quirky" and cooler, lower-budget games that made PS2 such a winner in my mind.

Examples of this include Baroque, Zack and Wiki, Sam and Max, Monster Hunter 3, Klonoa remake, SNK Classic collections, 2D shmups, etc.

All golden, and you won't find them on PS3 or 360. Why? Well, point-and-click ones for obvious reasons, but I don't see why some of these games can't be released on systems that could obviously handle them. Porting cost? Who knows. But I have a Wii, so no sense really complaining that I can't play Baroque on PS3.

Also you have the old standbys, Twilight Princess, No More Heroes, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Paper Mario, Wario Land: Shake It, Okami, etc.

A lot of ports it receives from other systems are pretty cool, too. Bully and The Godfather were both pretty neat with Wii controls.

Plus the fucking Virtual Console! Way more fleshed out than any classic offerings on PSN and XBLA, and WiiWare is certainly catching up.

I guess you could say I'm really fucking happy with the Wii.

UnbreakableVow

Also, this may seem like an odd thing to add to a list of pros, but I'm really glad (in a way) that while games tend to look great in 480p, it's not a high-def system.

I'm known as the gamer in my group of friends; they all play, but I'm known as the guy with the Wii and the PS3, I have the instruments for Rock Band, etc. I assemble all of our play sessions. But my house is crammed, and so I might have to take my systems to a friend's house, a friend that has an SDTV. Tried playing the Bioshock demo the other day and it was awful. Playing Dead Space on an SDTV, the text is a jumbled mess. Stick in No More Heroes or Super Mario Galaxy on an SDTV, and it still looks wonderful.

ED!

I've bought and sold a WII on Craigslist twice. After my initial excitement with the console, I kept on asking myself "why couldn't this be done on a regular console." And the reason of course is an added level of involvement from the user - thats it. That's the hook, and for me it wasn't a good enough hook.

Yes some of the games are fun, and no graphics aren't everything, but I'll be damned if some of the games didn't suffer even with the composite cables.

And the Wright comment might not be so valid anymore since, if I remember correctly, it was made at the height of WII-mania. . .we're now two years on, and I have yet to play a game I would have bought the WII full price for. But that's just me.

Inquisitor

My brother took the Wii with him when he moved out about 4 months ago.

Outside of the initial disappointment that I didn't get to beat the last level of No More Heroes I haven't even noticed that its been gone.

UnbreakableVow

ED! wrote: »

Yes some of the games are fun, and no graphics aren't everything, but I'll be damned if some of the games didn't suffer even with the composite cables.

There's your problem. :P

And while I love the Wii, Will Wright's opinion means jack shit to me. Man hasn't made a game yet that I've found even remotely interesting.

maximumzero

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

There are plenty of good games on the Wii, and plenty of good ones coming. The interesting thing about it is that it's the least-powerful of the three, and the cheapest to develop for; therefore, much like the PS2 before it, Wii is going to get a lot more of the "quirky" and cooler, lower-budget games that made PS2 such a winner in my mind.

Examples of this include Baroque, Zack and Wiki, Sam and Max, Monster Hunter 3, Klonoa remake, SNK Classic collections, 2D shmups, etc.

All golden, and you won't find them on PS3 or 360. Why? Well, point-and-click ones for obvious reasons, but I don't see why some of these games can't be released on systems that could obviously handle them. Porting cost? Who knows. But I have a Wii, so no sense really complaining that I can't play Baroque on PS3.

Also you have the old standbys, Twilight Princess, No More Heroes, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Paper Mario, Wario Land: Shake It, Okami, etc.

A lot of ports it receives from other systems are pretty cool, too. Bully and The Godfather were both pretty neat with Wii controls.

Plus the fucking Virtual Console! Way more fleshed out than any classic offerings on PSN and XBLA, and WiiWare is certainly catching up.

I guess you could say I'm really fucking happy with the Wii.

Indeed. People that complain about there being no Wii games obviously don't pay very much attention. Although to be fair, I tend to think that the 360 doesn't have very many games worth purchasing, as my Wii library outweighs my 360 library 5 to 1.

cj iwakura

Despite that I've been called insane for it, I bought the Wii for Castle Shikigami III.


It was worth it.


I also picked up No More Heroes and Trauma Center: New Blood with it, which were also enjoyable.

Since then I've gotten Mega Man 9, NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams, and Geometry Wars Galaxies.

It's a system that has great potential for quirky games down the line, since apparently anyone and everyone can release whatever they want on it with no drama whatsoever(take notes, Sony).


I think it's going to become the console for shmups, if Shikigami 3 and the forthcoming Ultimate Shooting Collection(Radio Allergy/Chaos Field/Karous) is any indication.

I'm also looking forward to Fatal Frame 4, Madworld, and No More Heroes 2(of course).

Darlan

maximumzero wrote: »

Indeed. People that complain about there being no Wii games obviously don't pay very much attention.

We do! We just see a lot of games that look really, really shitty to us.

Shurakai

I'm disappointed in the console so far, but I have faith that there are better days, and games, on the horizon.

They also did online gaming wrong, again. That has to change.

Xenogears of Bore

Wii, more like two Gamecubes duct taped together.

Otherwise known as the best system ever made by human hands. Think about it. Take everything about the Gamecube and double it.

Well, except total lifetime sales of course. That figure will probably be more than five times the total LTD of the Gamecube.

Best games of any current home console too.

gvandale

I have all three current consoles, and unfortunately I'm least impressed with the WII. I'm no graphics whore, or computing whore...I just feel REALLY underwhelmed by the games selection. It's sad to say the game that gets the most play is the game that came free with it. I only bought WII PLay for the extra remote. Here are my thoughts on the games I've played / own:
Wii Sports - A++ Really shows the logic behind the design decisions of the system / remote
Mario Galaxy - A++ IMHO the same "wow" factor as mario64
RE4 - C Don't get me wrong here it's a great game, but definitely been there done that
Wii Play - D boring games
Mario Kart - C Boring, nothing new to me
Super Smash Bros - B cool concept but the terrible online situation just blows it for me
No more heros - A Great game just never finished it because of the stellar titles on the other two at the time

There's more but none come to mind. Overall, I enjoy it at parties and with my fiance, but it tends to gather dust.

Graviija

I sure do love my little white box. It kind of defaults as my favorite console simply because it has Zelda, but it's definitely the console I play the most. My 360 has been broken for months, and I haven't felt motivated to get it fixed/replace it. My PS3 is at home (I'm at college), so I don't really play it for several weeks at a time.

But the Wii sits faithfully next to my the small TV I brought with and it helpful when I have an hour of so of free time. I just started replaying Metroid Prime 3 - that game is fantastic.

And once the next Zelda comes out, my life will essentially shut down for a week.

tyrannus

sold it for more than what is was worth and i'm not really regretting that decision. especially not this month

cj iwakura

If I guessed that 10 people on this board played Shikigami 3, I'd probably be exaggerating. I'd wager only Radiant Dawn could come close in terms of difficulty(I'll get it if/when it price drops).

UnbreakableVow

XoB's comment reminded me as well, it also has a fucking GameCube in it, in all models. The hardware.

Take notes next time, Sony and Microsoft. The PS4 and Xbox 720 better let me play ALL PS1, 2, 3, OXbox and 360 games.

This goes for Nintendo as well, though, if it still has motion control. If not, it better at least play GC discs.

Inquisitor

I was pretty let down by the Zelda on the Wii. That's just me though.

I've definitely found that assigning controls you need to use regularly to waggle is a bad idea. Save it for flourishes or rather special moves, like in No More Heroes.

elkatas

taliosfalcon wrote: »

I regret purchasing the wii, much like the gamecube. Its a great system, and has a lot of good games, just not a lot of good games that appeal to me =\

So rarely we see wisdom like this.

UnbreakableVow

tyrannus wrote: »

sold it for more than what is was worth and i'm not really regretting that decision. especially not this month

Well yeah.

But you wouldn't really regret selling anything for more than what it was worth.

cj iwakura

It makes me sad that so many people blindly ditched the Xbox when the 360 came out, then complain that a certain Xbox game doesn't work on the 360.

This is why I'll always keep mine.

Still, the 360 not being 100% backwards compatible is silly.

UnbreakableVow

Inquisitor wrote: »

I was pretty let down by the Zelda on the Wii. That's just me though.

I've definitely found that assigning controls you need to use regularly to waggle is a bad idea. Save it for flourishes or rather special moves, like in No More Heroes.

This is the reason I didn't really enjoy Zelda (on Wii) and Okami. It doesn't bother some people, but I'd like motion to be used somewhat sparingly.

Still, I was able to play the GC version of the same Zelda on the Wii.

tyrannus

well i figured something i'd want to play would have come out by now that would make me regret it

cj iwakura

Whenever I play Twilight Princess, I'd rather it be the GC version, since it was developed for that console and all.

Renzo

Bought a Wii recently. I have two games for it. I figure if I buy one game a year for it, I'll be doing all right. Better than I did with the GameCube, anyway.

Xenogears of Bore

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

tyrannus wrote: »

sold it for more than what is was worth and i'm not really regretting that decision. especially not this month

Well yeah.

But you wouldn't really regret selling anything for more than what it was worth.

I'm the biggest Nintendo fan around here and I'd sell my Wii if I could get more than what it is worth, including of course all of the Wii Shop stuff I have tied to it.

Because then I could just go back, rebuy everything, and then get some more on top of it. :P

In fact I did sell my first Wii with SMB and TP in January '07 for over $500.

maximumzero

Darlan wrote: »

maximumzero wrote: »

Indeed. People that complain about there being no Wii games obviously don't pay very much attention.

We do! We just see a lot of games that look really, really shitty to us.

So does the PS2 but I don't hear anyone complaining about that.

maximumzero

cj iwakura wrote: »

Despite that I've been called insane for it, I bought the Wii for Castle Shikigami III.


It was worth it.


I also picked up No More Heroes and Trauma Center: New Blood with it, which were also enjoyable.

Since then I've gotten Mega Man 9, NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams, and Geometry Wars Galaxies.

It's a system that has great potential for quirky games down the line, since apparently anyone and everyone can release whatever they want on it with no drama whatsoever(take notes, Sony).


I think it's going to become the console for shmups, if Shikigami 3 and the forthcoming Ultimate Shooting Collection(Radio Allergy/Chaos Field/Karous) is any indication.

I'm also looking forward to Fatal Frame 4, Madworld, and No More Heroes 2(of course).

The TG16 selection alone on the VC has more Shmups than the 360 and PS3 combined I think.

ED!

The WII does have some FUN games, but none of the games engrossed me as much as a Bioshock or a GTAIV or currently a Fable. I enjoyed the hell out of Zack & Wiki, and had some old school thoughts when playing SMG, but other than that I felt really just underwhelmed.

And I have no idea about the cables. Which ever the ones are that makes the jaggies look like crispy sharp jaggies.

Graviija

Sure, the sword controls in TP weren't perfect, but I found the bow/hookshot/boomerang/etc. pointer made up for it.

The GC version was just as good, but the world mirror thing blew my mind for a few hours.

And yes, if fact, I DO own both version of TP. Worth it.

mcdermott

Hmm.....

The Wii, to me, occupies the same space that my 'Cube did (big surprise).

The console I play every now and again, and every few months a game will come out for it that I really want. But mostly it sits.

But the few games I do play on it always seem to be so awesomely fun. It's basically all about quality vs. quantity...though this generation, they've certainly bumped up the quantity of crap shovelware. But I'm talking about games I actually pick up.

Last generation, I owned all three consoles. I picked up more titles for the Xbox than the Cube, and about the same on the PS2 as the Cube, but nearly all of them wound up getting sold eventually. My Cube games? I kept nearly all of them, and several of them I still get out occasionally.

The Wii is especially convenient for me, because honestly I don't have huge amounts of time for console gaming anymore so I seem largely able to fill that time with fantastic Wii titles. Whereas five, six years ago I had to drop down into the "hit and miss" realm on the Xbox/PS2 to fill my gaming time.

Overall I'm not sad in the slightest that I bought my Wii. I've had it since release, and I'd say that since that time there have been two periods of three to six months apiece where I didn't even touch it. But then I power it up, play the latest must-have title or grab a VC game, and I'm remarkably happy with my purchase again.

The Wii is still to me what I though it would be from the start: a good second console, or console to augment PC gaming, or console for somebody who doesn't have a lot of gaming time.

elkatas

maximumzero wrote: »

The TG16 selection alone on the VC has more Shmups than the 360 and PS3 combined I think.

But then again, it always felt that TG16 had more quality shumps than any consoles before or after it.

cj iwakura

maximumzero wrote: »

cj iwakura wrote: »

Despite that I've been called insane for it, I bought the Wii for Castle Shikigami III.


It was worth it.


I also picked up No More Heroes and Trauma Center: New Blood with it, which were also enjoyable.

Since then I've gotten Mega Man 9, NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams, and Geometry Wars Galaxies.

It's a system that has great potential for quirky games down the line, since apparently anyone and everyone can release whatever they want on it with no drama whatsoever(take notes, Sony).


I think it's going to become the console for shmups, if Shikigami 3 and the forthcoming Ultimate Shooting Collection(Radio Allergy/Chaos Field/Karous) is any indication.

I'm also looking forward to Fatal Frame 4, Madworld, and No More Heroes 2(of course).

The TG16 selection alone on the VC has more Shmups than the 360 and PS3 combined I think.

Well, considering the 360 and the PS3 have none, that isn't too difficult.

Though that's a completely different story in Japan. Their 360 has Shikigami 3, a Raiden game, etc.


And the odds of SCEA letting a company release a shmup on their system are somewhere between zero and nil.