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Snakes.

taerictaeric Registered User, ClubPA regular
edited October 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
So, I've now managed to find 3 snakes in my yard. So far, my main method of handling them has been to leave them alone and come back later to finish raking. Main reason for doing this is I don't want to risk making a mistake and getting hurt. That said, how should I deal with snakes in my yard? They are smallish with brown on them. (Largest one was about 7 inches. )

Also, if anyone can let me know what type of snakes I'm most likely looking at, that would be appreciated. I live in Sandy Springs, GA (just north of Atlanta). A neighbor thinks they are garter snakes. (I always thought those were green, though a quick trip to wikipedia shows I'm wrong on that one.)

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Sounds like garter snakes. Just to be safe, gently pick them up with a rake and move them to somewhere out of the way.

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  • taerictaeric Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    Sounds like garter snakes. Just to be safe, gently pick them up with a rake and move them to somewhere out of the way.

    This was my way of dealing with a single snake. However, I was working without gloves and had flip-flops on. So.... I figured it was safest to just leave and come back later.

    Also, is there a decent argument for keeping the snakes? I don't personally care for killing things. My wife, however, is of the mindset that a dead snake is a good snake. I do not particularly care to convince her we should keep any pets, I would just feel guilty about not killing them if there are good reasons for them to not be near our yard.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    7" sounds a bit small for a garter snake at this time of year. Could be a "Texas Brown Snake":
    Storeria_dekayi_texana.jpg

    That look like it?

    Either way, probably not a serious threat - but if it is a fore-fanged snake, a pair of thin gardening gloves won't keep it down. Leather if you absolutely have to handle it, but I'd just gently give it the lift-and-dump with a shovel or poke it with the blunt end of any lawn implement - snakes really would rather run than fight.

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  • taerictaeric Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    That looks almost exactly like it. :) Heading to wikipedia for that right now. Thanks!

    (Again, any good reasons to get rid of or keep them? Without compelling arguments either way, I'm content that I'll keep dumping them somewhere away from me, and my wife will probably keep killing them.)

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  • TopiaTopia Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Until you find them in your house they might help drive away smaller insects and rodents. Snakes, especially them, are virtually harmless, and, in my opinions, if you do get bit, it will hurt less than a bee sting.

    edit: I only say "until you find them in your house" because as cool as snakes are, and as much as I love them, even I would think it's gross to have snakes free-roaming your house...

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Well, garter snakes eat insects and grubs, including the ones that eat your lawn, so they're somewhere between harmless and slightly beneficial. I always used to catch them and keep them in a cage for a few days. When I was little my mom had me convinced that it was always the same snake, so I'd always call him the same name.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    taeric wrote: »
    That looks almost exactly like it. :) Heading to wikipedia for that right now. Thanks!

    (Again, any good reasons to get rid of or keep them? Without compelling arguments either way, I'm content that I'll keep dumping them somewhere away from me, and my wife will probably keep killing them.)

    If either of you garden, major points in favour of keeping them. They're not big enough to eat rodents, but they'll kill slugs, snails, and earthworms.

    Like I said, spook them and they'll run away or fake a strike, but at 7" long I don't think they could even get their mouths open enough to put teeth into you. :P

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  • taerictaeric Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Awesome, thanks everyone! We are wanting to get started with some sort of gardening, but we have so much tree cover that this will probably not happen anytime soon. (Looking in my backyard, I can easily count upwards of 40 trees)

    All that said, we talked last night and my wife is ok with my not killing them, so long as we never have one as a pet. :)

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    If you really want to get rid of them without hurting them, there are 2 things you can do, either separately or together.

    First, there are people you can pay who will come out, capture the snake, and release it somewhere else. You would obviously have to be able to show it to them. We did this a few years ago (for a much larger snake than that), and it cost us $75. Your Animal Control should be able to put you in touch with these people. Animal Control themselves unfortunately only come out if the snake is in your house or directly threatening someone/pets. For those particular snakes, I probably wouldn't bother with this, though my wife has a mortal fear of snakes, so I would have to do something.

    The second is there is a product (that I can't remember the name of now, someone else in the thread can probably tell you) that you sprinkle around your fence and house (it's a powder) that's supposedly really effective at keeping snakes out of your yard. It would probably also keep them in your yard, so if you find one, you'd have to move it outside of your fence. We lived in a neighborhood with houses on all sides, so there was really nowhere to move it.

    I would only kill it as a last resort. Not only does killing it suck (unless you like murder), but then you have the problem of disposing of it. Snakes may look tiny, but they rot as well as anything else, and don't smell pleasant.

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  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Mothballs in your yard, cost like 1.50 a box at walmart, will keep them out for about 3-6 months.

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Mothballs in your yard, cost like 1.50 a box at walmart, will keep them out for about 3-6 months.

    I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to do that.
    Let me find the reference real fast for it though.

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  • taerictaeric Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    I should ask, do these tactics work in a basic forest? So far, all of the snakes I've found have been under mounds of leaves. My lesson so far has been not to leave mounds of leaves just sitting there. :) (Though.... the backyard is a lost cause.)

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  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    rfalias wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Mothballs in your yard, cost like 1.50 a box at walmart, will keep them out for about 3-6 months.

    I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to do that.
    Let me find the reference real fast for it though.

    *shrug* used them for years when I was still a wee one living with my parents, since they scared my mom.

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  • jhunter46jhunter46 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    You may also want to check and see if you have a local city or county animal control service. If so they'll usually take care of the problem for free. You might as well get some use out of your tax dollars.


    Also, you could just call Samuel L. Jackson.

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