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Seeing shit with no drugs

b0bd0db0bd0d Registered User regular
edited October 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Sometimes when I stare at something with similar but different patterns, like a rug, it moves. I mean, the whole thing gets wavy like I'm low level tripping. ie, the drugs just started to kick in. I don't do drugs anymore. I haven't done any in several years. I also seem to remember this happening before I really started doing drugs. Sometimes it seems like it changes the way I think too. It's kinda hard to explain. I assume this is something I should go see somebody about? It doesn't seem to impact life or anything like that...well, not that I know of....

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    That's just your eyes messing with you. Happens to everyone. That's why those Magic Eye things work.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    b0bd0d wrote: »
    Sometimes when I stare at something with similar but different patterns, like a rug, it moves. I mean, the whole thing gets wavy like I'm low level tripping. ie, the drugs just started to kick in. I don't do drugs anymore. I haven't done any in several years. I also seem to remember this happening before I really started doing drugs. Sometimes it seems like it changes the way I think too. It's kinda hard to explain. I assume this is something I should go see somebody about? It doesn't seem to impact life or anything like that...well, not that I know of....

    Unless I have a medical condition, this happens to me too. Not something I'd worry about.

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  • TaGuelleTaGuelle Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I definatly noticed an increase in the intensity of such happenings after having taken such drugs but its not a flashback, those are much more intense and disorienting.

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  • b0bd0db0bd0d Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yeah, flashbacks are really some crazy shit. I'm not flashing back.

    But I'm not saying my eyes are crossing. I mean, shit's moving. I'm sitting there watching the walls or flood move like there's something under it. It's not like a magic eye.

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  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    You should see a neurologist, there is always the danger of drugs damaging brain cells or affecting your sensorial perception for years or causing a life term effect.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The mind looks for patterns in everything. For example, if a rug has been manufactured with a spiraling weave, your mind will see it and follow that spiral and it will seem as if the rug is moving. It has happened to me with closed blinds at the right angle (they 'move' up and down).

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Whatever you do, don't click this.

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  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    By they way, what kind of drugs did you use if you don't mind telling?, the following is a list of those proved to cause hallucinations:

    ecstasy , LSD, mescaline, peyote, and psilocybin or mushrooms.

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  • CauldCauld Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    This is pretty common. I remember reading about a study in my highschool psychology class. They put people in a dark room with one pinpoint of light on a wall. Everyone reported that the point of light moved, and would move by large amounts eventually, even though it never did. Our eyes are trained to be drawn to motion. If we keep staring at stationary things we'll start perceiving motion.

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  • ArtonosArtonos Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    This sounds exactly like what happens when I'm done mowing the lawn. I mow on a riding lawn mower cause we've got a couple acres. After being on the lawnmower constantly moving for 1-2 hours when you stop and focus on a specific point it moves. What I'm saying is yeah this happens to everyone. I notice it the most though after I'm done mowing the lawn.

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Stare at anything long enough and the tiny details and the nerves in your eye will become tired, and just tell your brain 'same old, same old' instead of perceiving. Then when the structure of the eye changes slightly, its a ball of mostly fluid and changes a little all the time due to pumping blood, eye muscles movement, etc, those little details appear to move. Totally normal.

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  • powahslavepowahslave Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    LSD and other hallucinogens seem to have this effect on people. After my experiences with LSD I often notice the exact feeling you describe, I get it often when looking at anything with natural patterns, like a rocky path, fallen leaves, etc. I've talked to my friends about it, and they've also experienced it. I think LSD sort of trains our minds to see things differently, and once we've been there it never really gos away. I don't think its anything to worry about, its actually kind of cool.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Sarcastro wrote: »
    Stare at anything long enough and the tiny details and the nerves in your eye will become tired, and just tell your brain 'same old, same old' instead of perceiving. Then when the structure of the eye changes slightly, its a ball of mostly fluid and changes a little all the time due to pumping blood, eye muscles movement, etc, those little details appear to move. Totally normal.

    This. Happens to me regularly, too. Stare at a chain link fence for about ten minutes and then try to focus on the yard behind it and the effect is enough to make you nauseous. Nothing to do with past drug use, either. As a child I learned how to make myself dizzy with visual effects like this.

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  • CorakCorak Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Artonos wrote: »
    This sounds exactly like what happens when I'm done mowing the lawn. I mow on a riding lawn mower cause we've got a couple acres. After being on the lawnmower constantly moving for 1-2 hours when you stop and focus on a specific point it moves. What I'm saying is yeah this happens to everyone. I notice it the most though after I'm done mowing the lawn.

    And here I thought I was crazy. This always happens after I mow the lawn, craaaazy vertigo.

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  • AthlantarAthlantar Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    This also sounds like an offshoot of something my friends and I refer to as "The guitar hero effect". After way too many hours of playing that game and staring at the screen, and then looking at something like a poster or picture on the wall, it will appear as if the poster is moving, just like the fret thingy does in guitar hero.

    The brain and the eyes get confused and love to find crazy patterns, I wouldnt worry about it.

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  • RendRend Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hevach wrote: »
    Sarcastro wrote: »
    Stare at anything long enough and the tiny details and the nerves in your eye will become tired, and just tell your brain 'same old, same old' instead of perceiving. Then when the structure of the eye changes slightly, its a ball of mostly fluid and changes a little all the time due to pumping blood, eye muscles movement, etc, those little details appear to move. Totally normal.

    This. Happens to me regularly, too. Stare at a chain link fence for about ten minutes and then try to focus on the yard behind it and the effect is enough to make you nauseous. Nothing to do with past drug use, either. As a child I learned how to make myself dizzy with visual effects like this.

    This is your body doing the same thing that makes sure you don't feel your clothes at all times. If you did, you'd constantly be annoyed and alerted by EVERYTHING. The only reason it doesn't happen more often is because your eyes are almost always moving, and so you are not usually sensing the same thing for protracted lengths of time. All of your other senses do this all the time.

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  • DavoidDavoid Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    powahslave wrote: »
    LSD and other hallucinogens seem to have this effect on people. After my experiences with LSD I often notice the exact feeling you describe, I get it often when looking at anything with natural patterns, like a rocky path, fallen leaves, etc. I've talked to my friends about it, and they've also experienced it. I think LSD sort of trains our minds to see things differently, and once we've been there it never really gos away. I don't think its anything to worry about, its actually kind of cool.

    Um, naw. I've noticed it before doing acid, and you notice again post. It's especially potent when you are tired, but, naw, it's just the ways the eyes work. It's not some special ex-LCD club only thing. Happens to everyone.

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  • GihgehlsGihgehls Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Everyone's eyes work this way, but most people's brains filter it out. More inquisitive and introspective people seem to pick up these details more readily. People who have taken hallucinogens have "realigned" these filters and thus are more likely to notice these little optical illusions instead of just ignoring them.

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