I dunno...I didn't replace Nelth's Tear until somewhere in T5 content, just 'cause I couldn't be at hit cap without it. I remember doing SSC still wearing that thing. And people asking me "OMG where did you get that trinket?"
Well, that's uh...another special case. 8-)
Those two are fairly special cases though. Vanilla trinkets sucked. Sucked so badly.
Don't forget Styleen's Impeding Scarab. That thing dropped in a BWL pug yesterday and every warrior and paladin shat themselves.
Except that it can arguably be replaced by http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23040 which is a Naxx drop. Unless you really need the Defense from it, it's not amazing.
Styleens and the Drakefang Tailsman are good trinkets. But the Gem is in a class by itself. All of the good BWL trinkets can be replaced in T5 content. The Gem doesn't have a serious replacement until Illidan. The end of T6 content.
So I was reading the "dialogue" or whatever you want to call it from the Alliance version of the "Attack Undercity and Kill Putress" quest. Wow Varian is a D-bag
King Varian Wrynn says: Look around you, brothers and sisters. Open your eyes! Look at what they have done to our kingdom!
King Varian Wrynn says: How much longer will we allow these savages free reign in our world?
King Varian Wrynn says: I have seen the Horde's world. I have been inside their cities. Inside their minds...
King Varian Wrynn says: I know what evil lies in the hearts of orcs.
King Varian Wrynn says: I was away for too long. My absence cost us the lives of some of our greatest heroes. Trash like you and this evil witch were allowed to roam free -- unchecked.
King Varian Wrynn says: The time has come to make things right. To disband your treacherous kingdom of murderers and thieves. Putress was the first strike. Many more will come.
King Varian Wrynn says: I've waited a long time for this, Thrall. For every time I was thrown into one of your damned arenas... for every time I killed a green-skinned aberration like you... I could only think of one thing.
King Varian Wrynn says: What our world could be without you and your twisted Horde... It ends now, Warchief.
For too long have the Horde been left unchecked. We allowed their territories to prosper and in return for our generosity they plotted and planned our demise.
Peace? Useless... it's gotten us nowhere. We have lost some of our greatest heroes to "peace." Let us see what battle brings.
Return to Northrend, <name>. Conquer it for your king - FOR THE ALLIANCE!
Wowwwww......He is a terrible douchebag. Like, I feel bad for following under his lead....
Man I really miss the horde....Thrall is Awesome!
Jaina should lead the Alliance. THAT I can get behind
what the hell! They pulled varian straight out of the comic but they managed to make him completely the opposite of not only his character but also the character of the entire game. I mean i know the alliance is generally a bunch of xenophobic races but they've at least put their bloodlust against the horde aside until this Douche mysteriously reappears and acts like this is still warcraft 1
For too long have the Horde been left unchecked. We allowed their territories to prosper and in return for our generosity they plotted and planned our demise.
Peace? Useless... it's gotten us nowhere. We have lost some of our greatest heroes to "peace." Let us see what battle brings.
Return to Northrend, <name>. Conquer it for your king - FOR THE ALLIANCE!
I love how it's all:
"The Horde are bad! Bad bad! To fix this, we'll invade the land of the Scourge, instead of purging the Horde from the regions they actually occupy!"
I'm sort of glad he's a douchebag, then there will actually be that war that got mixed with my craft. The game isn't called World of Peacecraft now is it?
For too long have the Horde been left unchecked. We allowed their territories to prosper and in return for our generosity they plotted and planned our demise.
Peace? Useless... it's gotten us nowhere. We have lost some of our greatest heroes to "peace." Let us see what battle brings.
Return to Northrend, <name>. Conquer it for your king - FOR THE ALLIANCE!
I love how it's all:
"The Horde are bad! Bad bad! To fix this, we'll invade the land of the Scourge, instead of purging the Horde from the regions they actually occupy!"
seems like it would be an excellent opportunity to attack the horde if all their troops and heroes are bogged down in viet-northrend. Just sayin'.
For too long have the Horde been left unchecked. We allowed their territories to prosper and in return for our generosity they plotted and planned our demise.
Peace? Useless... it's gotten us nowhere. We have lost some of our greatest heroes to "peace." Let us see what battle brings.
Return to Northrend, <name>. Conquer it for your king - FOR THE ALLIANCE!
I love how it's all:
"The Horde are bad! Bad bad! To fix this, we'll invade the land of the Scourge, instead of purging the Horde from the regions they actually occupy!"
seems like it would be an excellent opportunity to attack the horde if all their troops and heroes are bogged down in viet-northrend. Just sayin'.
For too long have the Horde been left unchecked. We allowed their territories to prosper and in return for our generosity they plotted and planned our demise.
Peace? Useless... it's gotten us nowhere. We have lost some of our greatest heroes to "peace." Let us see what battle brings.
Return to Northrend, <name>. Conquer it for your king - FOR THE ALLIANCE!
I love how it's all:
"The Horde are bad! Bad bad! To fix this, we'll invade the land of the Scourge, instead of purging the Horde from the regions they actually occupy!"
seems like it would be an excellent opportunity to attack the horde if all their troops and heroes are bogged down in viet-northrend. Just sayin'.
That's what I'd be like.
All yelling 'TO NORTHREND'
and then muttering to myself 'via Org bitches'.
Sure you aren't one of
Putress's
people?
End on
I wish that someway, somehow, that I could save every one of us
Kind of doubt that. My servers didn't have a hiccup with the Achievements shite.
On Alliance being douchebags:
I seem to remember Thrall being raised in captivity by humans, then, once he was old enough, being used at the local fort as a living practice dummy for people to practice killing orcs on. The only person who cared about him, a human girl, ended up... I think getting decapitated?... for doing so.
Still recouping from the violation the servers received from a sudden spike in activity that achievements have wrought, perhaps?
The status thing at the login screen suggests that we're still down because they somehow fucked up the mail. Maybe related to what Dyscord had going on with Varian sending him dozens of Black Warbears.
Still recouping from the violation the servers received from a sudden spike in activity that achievements have wrought, perhaps?
The status thing at the login screen suggests that we're still down because they somehow fucked up the mail. Maybe related to what Dyscord had going on with Varian sending him dozens of Black Warbears.
Wait, the Warbears thing actually happened? I thought he was joking.
I love people whining about Rogues in PvP, it never, ever gets old.
I have to admit, there's a small amount of humour in being patient enough to stalk all the way across a WSG map to jump someone when they think they're safe.
Like I'm a tiger stalking prey through the underbrush, and just when they think that they've escaped, *BAM*.
My KBs for the match may suffer, but the entertainment value of reminding the opposing team that death stalks them at every turn is usually worth it.
Forar on
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
Kind of doubt that. My servers didn't have a hiccup with the Achievements shite.
On Alliance being douchebags:
I seem to remember Thrall being raised in captivity by humans, then, once he was old enough, being used at the local fort as a living practice dummy for people to practice killing orcs on. The only person who cared about him, a human girl, ended up... I think getting decapitated?... for doing so.
Varian should quit his bitchin', imo.
My understanding on the difference is that Thrall was raised by humans, and the daughter of the woman who was tasked with raising him treated him like a brother. Thrall was also showed some small kindness by the sergeant of the guard (I can't remember if he had a name or was just "sergeant"), so even though the majority of his experience with the humans was negative, he still learned that not all of them were bad. The girl was killed by the man who was raising thrall to be a gladiator when he found out she had helped him to escape.
Meanwhile, Wrynn was kept for a short time as a gladiator, and was threatened constantly from what I remember. Apparently he never encountered a "friendlier" side of the Horde so it only reinforced his xenophobia.
I stealth followed a 70 mage as he escorted his two lvl 29 buddies from Southshore all the way to SM through the ruins of andorhol. Was such patience. Finally caught up right on the western edge of WP to gank him. Then as the two lvl 29s sat there terrified because their only protection was dead-- I simply blinded one and gouged the other sprinted and vanished in a puff of smoke.
Kind of doubt that. My servers didn't have a hiccup with the Achievements shite.
On Alliance being douchebags:
I seem to remember Thrall being raised in captivity by humans, then, once he was old enough, being used at the local fort as a living practice dummy for people to practice killing orcs on. The only person who cared about him, a human girl, ended up... I think getting decapitated?... for doing so.
Varian should quit his bitchin', imo.
"Blackmoore secretly raised the orcling Thrall within the confines of his prison fortress Durnholde. He planned to mold the orcling into the perfect warrior. A warrior conditioned to human thinking, but with all the savagery of an orcish heart"
Not quite the same thing.
And to be fair to the humans, the Orcs did invade the planet twice, tried to destroy the human civilization and were defeated and thrown back at terrible cost twice. I can rather understand the skepticism and ill feeling on the part of the human. How would we feel if the Nazi party had a sudden resurgence, told us that they'd changed their ways and then set up a kingdom in Africa and began forging new alliances and rebuilding their power base.
I stealth followed a 70 mage as he escorted his two lvl 29 buddies from Southshore all the way to SM through the ruins of andorhol. Was such patience. Finally caught up right on the western edge of WP to gank him. Then as the two lvl 29s sat there terrified because their only protection was dead-- I simply blinded one and gouged the other sprinted and vanished in a puff of smoke.
I did something kinda like that, except I didn't kill anyone
I was going to get the fish in the Swamp of Sorrows for the fishing quest when I saw 4 lvl 50~ alliance waiting for a fifth or something to do sunken temple. I ran up to them and then starting emoting to them. I forced one to /dance, one to /clap, one to /cower, and one to /cheer. Then I patted them on their heads and ran off.
When you shift out of flight form, any momentum you have gets translated to horisontal momentum. So if you fly straight down and shift out... you're now moving that fast horisontally until you hit ground.
So I was swooping down to kill a quest mob and shifted into cat above it... and promptly launched myself over the edge of Netherstorm. And I was close enough to get into combat.
I got out of combat waaaay down and managed to shift back to flight just before I'd have died. :^:
One of my buddies once pulled more than he could handle. So he jumped off the edge of the world and prayed that he'd get out of combat before he died. He did, shifted to flight form, and lived to see another day. :P
The best rogue story is chain sapping someone as the fel reaver "sneaks up" on them and knowing they are frantically mashing buttons in hopes of getting away. Was fun in opening TBC. Doesn't work so well now that people have like 10k hp and he can be solo'd by half the classes.
Sapping random people in the opening charge of AV is fun,t oo, as the entire team dismounts and tries to find you. You never see so many flares or consecrates going off at once anywhere else.
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I misread. >_>
I still wouldn't say it's that great though, unless you come across several people all trying to cap the flag when you get there.
Except that it can arguably be replaced by http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23040 which is a Naxx drop. Unless you really need the Defense from it, it's not amazing.
Styleens and the Drakefang Tailsman are good trinkets. But the Gem is in a class by itself. All of the good BWL trinkets can be replaced in T5 content. The Gem doesn't have a serious replacement until Illidan. The end of T6 content.
Have.. have you never done AV? or AB? .... or EotS??
Wowwwww......He is a terrible douchebag. Like, I feel bad for following under his lead....
Man I really miss the horde....Thrall is Awesome!
I'll second this. The Drake Fang Talisman lasted me until T5 content, and still holds a place of honour amongst the various trophies found in my bank.
"The Horde are bad! Bad bad! To fix this, we'll invade the land of the Scourge, instead of purging the Horde from the regions they actually occupy!"
North-raq
Yes, but I'm usually defending.
I'm sort of glad he's a douchebag, then there will actually be that war that got mixed with my craft. The game isn't called World of Peacecraft now is it?
seems like it would be an excellent opportunity to attack the horde if all their troops and heroes are bogged down in viet-northrend. Just sayin'.
Fight fight!
That's what I'd be like.
All yelling 'TO NORTHREND'
and then muttering to myself 'via Org bitches'.
This isn't the time for downtime Blizzard, I have two days left to get from 54 to 58.
I was going to hit up Un'Goro for an hour before work this morning and maintenance has been going for seven and a half hours?
Sure you aren't one of
On Alliance being douchebags:
I seem to remember Thrall being raised in captivity by humans, then, once he was old enough, being used at the local fort as a living practice dummy for people to practice killing orcs on. The only person who cared about him, a human girl, ended up... I think getting decapitated?... for doing so.
Varian should quit his bitchin', imo.
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Origin: ShogunGunshow
The status thing at the login screen suggests that we're still down because they somehow fucked up the mail. Maybe related to what Dyscord had going on with Varian sending him dozens of Black Warbears.
Wait, the Warbears thing actually happened? I thought he was joking.
I have to admit, there's a small amount of humour in being patient enough to stalk all the way across a WSG map to jump someone when they think they're safe.
Like I'm a tiger stalking prey through the underbrush, and just when they think that they've escaped, *BAM*.
My KBs for the match may suffer, but the entertainment value of reminding the opposing team that death stalks them at every turn is usually worth it.
PSN: ShogunGunshow
Origin: ShogunGunshow
My understanding on the difference is that Thrall was raised by humans, and the daughter of the woman who was tasked with raising him treated him like a brother. Thrall was also showed some small kindness by the sergeant of the guard (I can't remember if he had a name or was just "sergeant"), so even though the majority of his experience with the humans was negative, he still learned that not all of them were bad. The girl was killed by the man who was raising thrall to be a gladiator when he found out she had helped him to escape.
Meanwhile, Wrynn was kept for a short time as a gladiator, and was threatened constantly from what I remember. Apparently he never encountered a "friendlier" side of the Horde so it only reinforced his xenophobia.
B.net: Kusanku
"Blackmoore secretly raised the orcling Thrall within the confines of his prison fortress Durnholde. He planned to mold the orcling into the perfect warrior. A warrior conditioned to human thinking, but with all the savagery of an orcish heart"
Not quite the same thing.
And to be fair to the humans, the Orcs did invade the planet twice, tried to destroy the human civilization and were defeated and thrown back at terrible cost twice. I can rather understand the skepticism and ill feeling on the part of the human. How would we feel if the Nazi party had a sudden resurgence, told us that they'd changed their ways and then set up a kingdom in Africa and began forging new alliances and rebuilding their power base.
Thats right i just WoW-Godwined myself.
PSN: ShogunGunshow
Origin: ShogunGunshow
Orcs, Humans, Elves, you're on notice.
(to be fair, the humans have done it a couple times, but they got diplomacy, so maybe they can do it twice).
Now with 10% more genocide!
I did something kinda like that, except I didn't kill anyone
I was going to get the fish in the Swamp of Sorrows for the fishing quest when I saw 4 lvl 50~ alliance waiting for a fifth or something to do sunken temple. I ran up to them and then starting emoting to them. I forced one to /dance, one to /clap, one to /cower, and one to /cheer. Then I patted them on their heads and ran off.
AKA [PA]Ilovepandas
You're Late!
So late.
Sometimes I have feelings of inadequacy.
When you shift out of flight form, any momentum you have gets translated to horisontal momentum. So if you fly straight down and shift out... you're now moving that fast horisontally until you hit ground.
So I was swooping down to kill a quest mob and shifted into cat above it... and promptly launched myself over the edge of Netherstorm. And I was close enough to get into combat.
I got out of combat waaaay down and managed to shift back to flight just before I'd have died. :^:
Oops, pun.
Sorry.
...wait...
So damned much fun.
He hates love.
Sapping random people in the opening charge of AV is fun,t oo, as the entire team dismounts and tries to find you. You never see so many flares or consecrates going off at once anywhere else.