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Underworld 3 - The story we already figured out

Lady EriLady Eri Registered User regular
edited October 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/underworldriseofthelycans/medium.html

I would have been happier with another sequel where maybe the two of them got together and ruled an empire of darkness? Was that too much to ask? Yes.

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Why? The first was one of the worst films ever made and the sequel somehow managed to be worse. Why make a third? What did anybody do to deserve this?

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  • JackanapesJackanapes Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The first movie had one of the best concepts Id seen in a long time. Loved the world-building and... Bill Nighy. But... Scott Speedman was terrible, the plot was ludicrous and frankly, it just didnt live up to its promise. That said, its still a favourite of mine. I mean, lets not ignore Kate Beckinsale in tight leather...

    Number two was terrible. Less said the better, and number 3... Bill Nighy AND Rhona Mitra? Oh, Im in :D

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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Now now, the first movie was a great action movie with vampires and werewolves.

    The 2nd one was pretty weak and the 3rd is set to be terrible.

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  • GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Jackanapes wrote: »
    The first movie had one of the best concepts Id seen in a long time. Loved the world-building and... Bill Nighy. But... Scott Speedman was terrible, the plot was ludicrous and frankly, it just didnt live up to its promise. That said, its still a favourite of mine. I mean, lets not ignore Kate Beckinsale in tight leather...

    Number two was terrible. Less said the better, and number 3... Bill Nighy AND Rhona Mitra? Oh, Im in :D

    I'm really glad I'm not alone in loving this movie.

    I just have this affinity for occult-themes loaded with violence, and Underworld was candy with a Kate Beckinsale wrapper. <3

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  • CherrnCherrn Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Bill Nighy was the only good thing about the first movie. I have a soft spot for vampires and werewolves (especially in conjunction with each other), but I really couldn't stand the thing. Terrible, terrible filmmaking.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I actually liked the first film. It's pretty cool for trash vamp fanfic.

    ok, what the fuck? Do trailer companies only get like 1 piece of music to use all season?

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    My complaint with the first movie in particular was that you have two classic monsters battling it out, and they can't seem to do much more than shoot at each other.

    That and, while I adore Kate Beckinsale and think she looks great in a black leather catsuit, she needs to stay out of the action flicks because she has a really, really girly run.

    And now after watching the trailer, I wonder what happened to her. I thought she was contracted for another movie.

    And I guess no Agent Provocateur this time.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I remember when Doomsday came out, I could have sworn the girl was Kate Beckinsale. Now I find out she's taking over her role in this movie.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So, are they going to steal this plot too?

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yay, a new Underworld movie!

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  • artifexiteartifexite Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The first movie had a pretty good (half of a) soundtrack. I suppose that's all I cared about it.

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  • DHS OdiumDHS Odium Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    Why? The first was one of the worst films ever made and the sequel somehow managed to be worse. Why make a third? What did anybody do to deserve this?

    I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone speak as much truth as this man.

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  • NewresNewres Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I could only watch about ten minutes of the first one, and I usually have a pretty high tolerance for crappy action movies. I have no idea how they managed the wolverines/vampires idea that badly...

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Blah blah blah story.

    Will Kate be gloriously naked again is all I want to know.

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    edited October 2008
    Jackanapes wrote: »
    The first movie had one of the best concepts Id seen in a long time.

    It had one of the best concepts I'd seen since the last time I opened up a White Wolf RPG book.

    Which, in all honesty, had been a long time.

    But not so long that I forgot that White Wolf basically created that exact same world.

    Actually, who am I kidding? The concept wasn't that great when White Wolf did it.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    Jackanapes wrote: »
    The first movie had one of the best concepts Id seen in a long time.

    It had one of the best concepts I'd seen since the last time I opened up a White Wolf RPG book.

    Which, in all honesty, had been a long time.

    But not so long that I forgot that White Wolf basically created that exact same world.

    Actually, who am I kidding? The concept wasn't that great when White Wolf did it.

    You do know they stole the actual story (not just the world) from WW, right?

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    Jackanapes wrote: »
    The first movie had one of the best concepts Id seen in a long time.

    It had one of the best concepts I'd seen since the last time I opened up a White Wolf RPG book.

    Which, in all honesty, had been a long time.

    But not so long that I forgot that White Wolf basically created that exact same world.

    Actually, who am I kidding? The concept wasn't that great when White Wolf did it.

    You do know they stole the actual story (not just the world) from WW, right?

    Yep. Straight from a single sourcebook IIRC.

    I remember that whole lawsuit.

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Jackanapes wrote: »
    The first movie had one of the best concepts Id seen in a long time.

    It had one of the best concepts I'd seen since the last time I opened up a White Wolf RPG book.

    Which, in all honesty, had been a long time.

    But not so long that I forgot that White Wolf basically created that exact same world.

    Actually, who am I kidding? The concept wasn't that great when White Wolf did it.

    You do know they stole the actual story (not just the world) from WW, right?

    Yep. Straight from a single sourcebook IIRC.

    I remember that whole lawsuit.

    Licenced novel, actually.

    Actually, that's one of the few PA strips I had a problem with, mainly because WW really didn't deserve the mockery over that lawsuit.

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    edited October 2008
    I don't remember the PA strip.

    How could WW deserve mockery?

    I mean, outside of just being White Wolf in general.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    I don't remember the PA strip.

    How could WW deserve mockery?

    I mean, outside of just being White Wolf in general.

    http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/9/8/

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    I don't remember the PA strip.

    How could WW deserve mockery?

    I mean, outside of just being White Wolf in general.

    It's the one where they had the WW rep telling Sony that they were ripping off their worlds, only to have the WW rep get interrupted by Anne Rice, who was then interrupted by Bram Stoker et al.

    Edit: Couscous has the link to it.

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    edited October 2008
    Couscous wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    I don't remember the PA strip.

    How could WW deserve mockery?

    I mean, outside of just being White Wolf in general.

    http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/9/8/

    That's a silly strip.

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I never found out who that short guy in the bottom left was.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Kagera wrote: »
    I never found out who that short guy in the bottom left was.

    I think he's the muppeteer for the Count.

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  • HamHamJHamHamJ Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Jackanapes wrote: »
    The first movie had one of the best concepts Id seen in a long time.

    It had one of the best concepts I'd seen since the last time I opened up a White Wolf RPG book.

    Which, in all honesty, had been a long time.

    But not so long that I forgot that White Wolf basically created that exact same world.

    Actually, who am I kidding? The concept wasn't that great when White Wolf did it.

    You do know they stole the actual story (not just the world) from WW, right?

    Yep. Straight from a single sourcebook IIRC.

    I remember that whole lawsuit.

    Licenced novel, actually.

    Actually, that's one of the few PA strips I had a problem with, mainly because WW really didn't deserve the mockery over that lawsuit.

    Really? Cause while the vampires are basically WW vampires, the werewolves are nothing like WW werewolves that I've seen.

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  • hoodie13hoodie13 punch bro Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    that girl looks shockingly like kate. like, it's pretty difficult to tell them apart if you're casually glancing.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Jackanapes wrote: »
    The first movie had one of the best concepts Id seen in a long time.

    It had one of the best concepts I'd seen since the last time I opened up a White Wolf RPG book.

    Which, in all honesty, had been a long time.

    But not so long that I forgot that White Wolf basically created that exact same world.

    Actually, who am I kidding? The concept wasn't that great when White Wolf did it.

    You do know they stole the actual story (not just the world) from WW, right?

    Yep. Straight from a single sourcebook IIRC.

    I remember that whole lawsuit.

    Licenced novel, actually.

    Actually, that's one of the few PA strips I had a problem with, mainly because WW really didn't deserve the mockery over that lawsuit.

    Really? Cause while the vampires are basically WW vampires, the werewolves are nothing like WW werewolves that I've seen.

    Yep. IIRC, they settled with Sony giving WW and the author royalties and the proper screen credit.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited October 2008
    Dalboz wrote: »
    My complaint with the first movie in particular was that you have two classic monsters battling it out, and they can't seem to do much more than shoot at each other.
    This.

    This right here.

    Werewolves that are sitting around as fucking humans firing guns at Vampires. Sure, there's some bullshit explanation for the bullets, but the end-result is the same: two monsters that focus on either being brutish animals or bloodthirsty manipulators goddamn shooting like any fucking normal asshole can. And we didn't need the stupid Romeo & Juliet angle. We just need werewolves trying to maul vampires while the vampires try to drink their blood. Or kill them so they drink someone else's blood. Who sees a movies with BOTH of these fuckers and expects, or WANTS, motherfucking shooting? It's insane. It's like having a movie with mobsters and cops and having them fight with gotdamned baseball bats.

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Aw, no Kate, and a storyline that already has an ending?

    Blech.

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  • gundam470gundam470 Drunk Gorilla CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    No Kate Beckinsale? Blegh.

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The first film was good leave-your-brain-behind actiony stuff. The second started out promising but got very boring very quick. Yep, the third is going to suck.

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  • SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Dalboz wrote: »
    My complaint with the first movie in particular was that you have two classic monsters battling it out, and they can't seem to do much more than shoot at each other.
    This.

    This right here.

    Werewolves that are sitting around as fucking humans firing guns at Vampires. Sure, there's some bullshit explanation for the bullets, but the end-result is the same: two monsters that focus on either being brutish animals or bloodthirsty manipulators goddamn shooting like any fucking normal asshole can. And we didn't need the stupid Romeo & Juliet angle. We just need werewolves trying to maul vampires while the vampires try to drink their blood. Or kill them so they drink someone else's blood. Who sees a movies with BOTH of these fuckers and expects, or WANTS, motherfucking shooting? It's insane. It's like having a movie with mobsters and cops and having them fight with gotdamned baseball bats.

    Blade 2 was worse, though.

    "Solar bombs! Yeah!"

    I forget, did they conveniently forget they had those in Blade 3? Because it would have come in handy.

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  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    My understanding was that the werewolves had been trying ye old maul the vampires technique for quite awhile and it hadn't been working so well. Like to the point of nearly wiping them out. Probably due to the vampires having large stockpiles of silver in convenient high velocity form. Also there was a vampire who tried to take on a Werewolf in fight to the death. He even had fancy segmented silver whip blade thingys. It didn't go so well for him iirc.

    I mean if you wanted classic portrayals of monsters Underworld wasn't the movie you were looking for. Val Helsing would probably be right up your alley though?
    I'm sorry. You didn't deserve that. No one deserves that :(

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  • GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Van Helsing also had a solar bomb, didn't it?

    Anyway, I liked that the first Underworld had a lot of practical effects and relatively few cgi monsters and whatnot.

    It also had Kate Beckinsale. As has been mentioned. But you can't really say that enough.

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  • tallgeezetallgeeze Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    wow, a third one and prequel to boot. I was hoping for some leather clad Beckinsale, but got the chic from Doomsday.

    Looked here up and her name is Rhona Mitra. Never saw Doomsday, but I remember her nice ass in those Doomsday commercials that came on every 5 minutes on every freaking channel.

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  • VoodooVVoodooV Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I realize Beckinsale is quite possibly the most beautiful woman in the world...but christ people! These movies blow!

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  • Saint JusticeSaint Justice Mercenary Mah-vel Baybee!!!Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I enjoyed both movies, they are good mindless action flicks. But a sequel without Kate Beckinsale? FUCK THAT.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Jackanapes wrote: »
    The first movie had one of the best concepts Id seen in a long time. Loved the world-building and... Bill Nighy. But... Scott Speedman was terrible, the plot was ludicrous and frankly, it just didnt live up to its promise. That said, its still a favourite of mine. I mean, lets not ignore Kate Beckinsale in tight leather...

    Number two was terrible. Less said the better, and number 3... Bill Nighy AND Rhona Mitra? Oh, Im in :D

    The first movie was pretty much just "World of Darkness" minus anything of interest and with way too many gunfights and not enough werewolf on vampire action.

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  • TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    VoodooV wrote: »
    I realize Beckinsale is quite possibly the most beautiful flat woman in the world...but christ people! These movies blow!

    Fixed

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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I love how in the second movie, that super-impregnable prison for the big bad werewolf dude had a window with moonlight shining down into the room.

    They go through all this security and then install a window in the celing?

    Really?

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