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Music thread wherein we talk about bands from the ill-defined [Indie] genre

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  • animaleanimale Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I don't see how Explosions are at all related to BSS, Neutral Milk, or Stars.

    Yup, EitS are from Austin, NMH is part of the Elephant 6 Collective from GA. And BSS and Stars are part of the incestuous Canadian music scene.

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  • SnorkSnork word Jamaica Plain, MARegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    yeah sarah millan has been a part of BSS before but aside from that

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  • flamebroiledchickenflamebroiledchicken Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Snork wrote: »
    I personally think all three of those other bands are a great deal better than Broken Social Scene. Especially Stars.

    I'm inclined to agree. Some BSS songs are amazing (Almost Crimes, Anthems for a Seventeen Year Old Girl, 7/4 Shoreline, their singles basically), but overall they don't really do it for me.

    Stars and Explosions both need to start switching up their formulas, but they've been consistently awesome up to now. And nothing more really needs to be said about NMH.

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  • SnorkSnork word Jamaica Plain, MARegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    stars' new ep was pretty cool, i think explosions in the sky is in much greater need of innovation than stars is
    after a while i can just keep going back and listening to the earth is not a cold dead place over and over again whenever they put out something new

    in a similar vein i'm really digging what sigur ros is doing with themselves

    expanding themselves to include a style that i never would have anticipated listening to ( ) and to some extent takk, but still keeping a couple songs that throw back to older albums

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I thought In Our Bedrooms by the Stars was about as big of a change from Set yourself on Fire as would be possible without switching all the members from the band.

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  • flamebroiledchickenflamebroiledchicken Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Don't get me wrong, I loved In Our Bedroom, but I was kinda disappointed by the Sad Robot EP. I was just like "...yep, sounds like Stars." If you listen to them for a while, you notice they reuse a lot of melodies and song structures.

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  • WerdnaWerdna Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Explosions in the sky are the least innovative experimental band I've ever heard. Now mind you they have like one good album as Stars do. BSS is excellent on two albums, You forget in people and Feel Good Lost. Anyway, my point was just that NMH is far deeper and enjoyable. Anyway, yeah.

    I'd say Yo La Tengo kicks much more ass than the likes of stars.

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  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Since when are EitS indie? o_O

    Next you lot will be saying Godspeed You! Black Emperor or God Is An Astronaut are indie.

    Also, EitS are wonderful and according to several friends lucky enough to catch their gig here a few months back, are amazing live.

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  • ShankusuShankusu __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    post-rock and indie music are like, one or two clicks from each other on the music chart

    and their fans overlap immensely

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Wait, wait, wait....indie is short for 'independant,' as in music that isn't produced by large record companies. At least that's always how I've seen it.

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  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Wait, wait, wait....indie is short for 'independant,' as in music that isn't produced by large record companies. At least that's always how I've seen it.

    So niave.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Tav wrote: »
    Wait, wait, wait....indie is short for 'independant,' as in music that isn't produced by large record companies. At least that's always how I've seen it.

    So niave.

    Yes, so niave.

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Let's not get into semantics about genres and shit.


    Please?

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Let's not get into semantics about genres and shit.


    Please?

    Well we've already ranked bands in terms of which is most indie, so I'd say we don't have a long ways to go before we start arguing semantics.

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Wait, which band is most indie? I must've missed it.

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  • Page-Page- Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Wait, which band is most indie? I must've missed it.

    I just started a band. Fifteen minutes ago. There are 1.5 members, we haven't played a show or even practised. And I don't even play an instrument. I'm the most indie-est of them all!

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Page- wrote: »
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Wait, which band is most indie? I must've missed it.

    I just started a band. Fifteen minutes ago. There are 1.5 members, we haven't played a show or even practised. And I don't even play an instrument. I'm the most indie-est of them all!

    Oh yeah, well I started one five minutes ago and we played our final show 3 minutes ago.

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  • ilmmadilmmad Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'm so indie I saw a band play alone in a basement then killed them afterwards so I would be the only one to know.

    And to the previous question: not Akron, Philly.

    Also: I wasn't comparing Stars or Explosions to NMH; rather I was bringing up bands I've been recommended that I haven't looked into yet. But to be frank the whole "better than everything else" vibe I'm getting when people talk about NMH is a tad offputting.

    And yes, the Aquabats are ridiculous. Some fan had lightning bolts he was throwing for "Tiger Rider" and MC Bat Commander grabbed one and "rode the lighting" over to Ricky.

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  • SnorkSnork word Jamaica Plain, MARegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Werdna wrote: »
    Explosions in the sky are the least innovative experimental band I've ever heard. Now mind you they have like one good album as Stars do. BSS is excellent on two albums, You forget in people and Feel Good Lost. Anyway, my point was just that NMH is far deeper and enjoyable. Anyway, yeah.

    I'd say Yo La Tengo kicks much more ass than the likes of stars.
    whoah wahoah whoah

    stars has at the very least two good albums

    i'm sure when you said one you meant set yourself on fire

    because if not i'm going to have to kill you

    i love in our bedroom after the war too, though. it's not as superamazing as set yourself on fire is, but it is an album that has a whole lot of really good songs on it

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  • MarsloMarslo is, the dirty frenchmen MontrealRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    stars sits somewhere in my head as one of the most injoyable live acts out there. plus they hit all my melancholic buttons just right.

    but my curent playlist hoovers around this band.
    http://www.myspace.com/holyfuck

    have a lisen to Lovely Allen first and then Super Inuit before you start throwing the E word around.

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  • Page-Page- Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Oh yes. Holy Fuck are really great.

    Our tax dollars at work.

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  • MarsloMarslo is, the dirty frenchmen MontrealRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    i like to belive that the fact it was mentioned repeatedly in relation to the Conservative Party, may have stopped them from taking Quebec and that ever-looming majority.

    but on the same note of awsomness, if just found about Chad VanGaalen. now i feel like iv been missing out.
    http://www.myspace.com/chadvangaalen

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  • frank as fuckfrank as fuck __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    Singer/songwriter fans: I would like to direct your attention to Madeline Adams.

    Fans of bands may enjoy Decibully.

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  • MarsloMarslo is, the dirty frenchmen MontrealRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    ill tell you what not to lisen too. Aids Wolf.

    40 minutes of noise for the sack of art is all i can take.

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  • flamebroiledchickenflamebroiledchicken Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'll never understand why noise suddenly became so popular in indie circles.

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  • metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'll never understand why noise suddenly became so popular in indie circles.

    It makes you feel dangerous.

    But honestly, it's mostly just the cyclical nature of things.
    Though "indie" as we know it today is something of a 90's phenomenon/genrefication, the intersection of indie and noise basically predates indie itself in the form of 80's "no-wave".

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  • flamebroiledchickenflamebroiledchicken Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Yeah, I know noise has crept its way into indie before, but it's like all of a sudden Pitchfork and Pals are jerking off all over static-rock bands like Times New Viking, No Age, HEALTH, Fuck Buttons, AIDS Wolf, etc. and I'm just like "When the hell did this happen? Why did this crap become cool?"

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  • FoodFood Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Yeah, I know noise has crept its way into indie before, but it's like all of a sudden Pitchfork and Pals are jerking off all over static-rock bands like Times New Viking, No Age, HEALTH, Fuck Buttons, AIDS Wolf, etc. and I'm just like "When the hell did this happen? Why did this crap become cool?"

    I really like noise rock if it's done well. See: The Jesus and Mary Chain, Sonic Youth, My Bloody Valentine. I haven't heard any of this wave of modern of noise bands, though.

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  • metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Food wrote: »
    Yeah, I know noise has crept its way into indie before, but it's like all of a sudden Pitchfork and Pals are jerking off all over static-rock bands like Times New Viking, No Age, HEALTH, Fuck Buttons, AIDS Wolf, etc. and I'm just like "When the hell did this happen? Why did this crap become cool?"

    I really like noise rock if it's done well. See: The Jesus and Mary Chain, Sonic Youth, My Bloody Valentine. I haven't heard any of this wave of modern of noise bands, though.

    They're very different. The bands you described are pretty much direct descendants of the no-wave scene.
    The modern bands he referenced are more like...half-retarded punk kids too lazy to learn power chords and instead turn to circuit-bending. (Not so much No Age though. They're just boring.)

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  • KealohaKealoha Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    No Age is actually one of the few bands of the new noise scene that I like. But circuit-bending stuff is so fucking annoying here in my small (yet thriving) community.

    The thing with a lot of those noise bands is that the beginning of their set (or their one really, really long song) will be pretty cool and interesting. But by the end of it it's all droned out and then they're just screaming and stuff. And another thing about it is that everyone thinks that they can just fuck with some wires and make noise and call it music. Most of it just turns out to be embarrassing. What's worse is that the college station up here is really heavily involved in it, and they book most of the shows around town. So they just get all of their shitty noise friends to play in the bars and DIY houses and like 70% of the shows in town each night will just be "noise blowouts."

    Granted, there's one noise band (with the best name: Donner Party Dinner Party) that is pretty good. They don't take themselves seriously and they're actually pretty knowledgeable about everything. Other than that one act, though, most of it is just shit.

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  • metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Kealoha wrote: »
    No Age is actually one of the few bands of the new noise scene that I like. But circuit-bending stuff is so fucking annoying here in my small (yet thriving) community.

    The thing with a lot of those noise bands is that the beginning of their set (or their one really, really long song) will be pretty cool and interesting. But by the end of it it's all droned out and then they're just screaming and stuff. And another thing about it is that everyone thinks that they can just fuck with some wires and make noise and call it music. Most of it just turns out to be embarrassing. What's worse is that the college station up here is really heavily involved in it, and they book most of the shows around town. So they just get all of their shitty noise friends to play in the bars and DIY houses and like 70% of the shows in town each night will just be "noise blowouts."

    Granted, there's one noise band (with the best name: Donner Party Dinner Party) that is pretty good. They don't take themselves seriously and they're actually pretty knowledgeable about everything. Other than that one act, though, most of it is just shit.

    Damn. That's about as lame as it gets.
    For some pretty cool semi-noisy indie, I'd recommended The Lovely Public and the band they sorta became, Maus Haus.
    My band got to play with them a couple years back and they're righteous cool dudes.

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  • flamebroiledchickenflamebroiledchicken Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The one band related to that scene that I kinda like is A Place To Bury Strangers, because they basically make epic movie-soundtrack music, just drenched in waves of distortion. See: The Falling Sun

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  • FoodFood Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    metaghost wrote: »
    Food wrote: »
    Yeah, I know noise has crept its way into indie before, but it's like all of a sudden Pitchfork and Pals are jerking off all over static-rock bands like Times New Viking, No Age, HEALTH, Fuck Buttons, AIDS Wolf, etc. and I'm just like "When the hell did this happen? Why did this crap become cool?"

    I really like noise rock if it's done well. See: The Jesus and Mary Chain, Sonic Youth, My Bloody Valentine. I haven't heard any of this wave of modern of noise bands, though.

    They're very different. The bands you described are pretty much direct descendants of the no-wave scene.
    The modern bands he referenced are more like...half-retarded punk kids too lazy to learn power chords and instead turn to circuit-bending. (Not so much No Age though. They're just boring.)

    Heh... so kind of like this?
    That's my brother's band. :lol:

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  • metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The one band related to that scene that I kinda like is A Place To Bury Strangers, because they basically make epic movie-soundtrack music, just drenched in waves of distortion. See: The Falling Sun

    A friend of a bandmate is a pretty similar one-man band called The Bird Cage Theatre.

    He used to be all about brutal ear distruction mixed with classical guitar passages, but now he's significantly streamlined his sound into something more appealing Brooklyn hipsters.

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  • Ghandi 2Ghandi 2 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Marslo wrote: »
    ill tell you what not to lisen too. Aids Wolf.

    40 minutes of noise for the sack of art is all i can take.
    Psh, they're not noise. Merzbow is noise.

    Noise is the future, that's why it's popular? ;-)

    Seriously though, as much as I love free jazz and dissonant 20th century classical, I don't get into guitar noise very much. It's really hard to do well (although I do have a soft spot for Otomo and Boredoms), and and because it's easier to loop feedback and appear reasonably competent than to produce this.

    Not that I care who Pitchfork et al suck off, they're pretty terrible.

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  • RenegadeSilenceRenegadeSilence Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I know I'm a couple pages late in saying this but that guy who does Final Fantasy needs to grow a spine.
    His original stuff is good, but when I saw him opening for another band, he's the most self-deprecating person I've ever seen. He only played two of his songs than went on to do a bunch of covers, because his stuff "sucked" apparently, mentioning it 50 times between each song, also while saying the audience was too kind.

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Came home today after work to find The Decemberists - Always the Bridesmaid: A Singles Series waiting for my. I now own like a total of 11 vinyl.

    So far, it's pretty good. I'm only halfway through the first song, but man do I love me some Decemberists.

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  • animaleanimale Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    So I'm going to see Marnie Stern tonight and she's having her kissing booth open so I might even buy a kiss from her...

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  • Mithrandir86Mithrandir86 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    How'd that kiss go?

    On another note, I'm getting frustrated that Merriweather Post Pavilion hasn't leaked. Very, very, very frustrated.

    The thing that makes me the most upset is that I know people out there have it (press copies have already gone out apparently). But they're all watermarked. No one has leaked it yet. Argh.

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  • KealohaKealoha Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    i never got water curses. was it good?

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