Also I note that TF2 in Win7 has the same joyous starting glitch it sometimes gets in Vista (where it freaks out, switching back and forth from the desktop to the game rapidly while loading.)
Two options to fix that:
A) Run it in windowed mode (with Aero, you don't get nearly the same performance hit as you used to with non-composited desktop graphics). If you want it to be full screen add --noborder to the launch options, and set the game to windowed and your display resolution.
Be sure you don't have anything that runs itself in "always on top" mode. Even if you have multiple monitors. This includes obvious stuff like task manager, and less obvious stuff like RocketDock or IM programs on auto-hide.
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Also I note that TF2 in Win7 has the same joyous starting glitch it sometimes gets in Vista (where it freaks out, switching back and forth from the desktop to the game rapidly while loading.)
Two options to fix that:
A) Run it in windowed mode (with Aero, you don't get nearly the same performance hit as you used to with non-composited desktop graphics). If you want it to be full screen add --noborder to the launch options, and set the game to windowed and your display resolution.
Be sure you don't have anything that runs itself in "always on top" mode. Even if you have multiple monitors. This includes obvious stuff like task manager, and less obvious stuff like RocketDock or IM programs on auto-hide.
Yea that happens on XP for me every once in awhile.
Wish I could move the show desktop button, as I've used it religiously for years now on the left side.
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I find the window version to be useful; I often have to refer to pieces of data on a buried window or three.
Desktop? Beyond looking at a static gadget, I don't see much use (though I try to avoid having stuff on the desktop).
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edited January 2009
The only computability issues I have managed to find is that Skype did not work nor did my Microsoft Lifecam webcam (THAT is more than a little silly).
Both times getting the newer Beta versions fixed my issues.
Oh and Daemon tools, but I have yet to need to use that.
Mostly seems to be a way to identify the window you want to switch to without alt-tabbing, or maybe bringing one to the foreground temporarily without actually moving the rest of your workspace.
I've installed the beta on our media pc, and everything is hunky dory but for the sound. The pc has the typical onboard motherboard sound chip - Realtek HD Audio - and sound is just a little crackly sometimes. Changing to the Realtek Vista drivers make it ten times worse, so we're stuck with the drivers that come with the beta. Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing the same thing?
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Also I note that TF2 in Win7 has the same joyous starting glitch it sometimes gets in Vista (where it freaks out, switching back and forth from the desktop to the game rapidly while loading.)
Two options to fix that:
A) Run it in windowed mode (with Aero, you don't get nearly the same performance hit as you used to with non-composited desktop graphics). If you want it to be full screen add --noborder to the launch options, and set the game to windowed and your display resolution.
Be sure you don't have anything that runs itself in "always on top" mode. Even if you have multiple monitors. This includes obvious stuff like task manager, and less obvious stuff like RocketDock or IM programs on auto-hide.
I've installed the beta on our media pc, and everything is hunky dory but for the sound. The pc has the typical onboard motherboard sound chip - Realtek HD Audio - and sound is just a little crackly sometimes. Changing to the Realtek Vista drivers make it ten times worse, so we're stuck with the drivers that come with the beta. Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing the same thing?
I have the same chipset and I'm not having any issues. Sorry.
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Alright, thanks. We'll just have to grin and bear it for the time being, and it's only a minor issue anyway. The next one I have here, however, is not... whenever I think about how Microsoft is trying to present networking in Vista and Windows 7, I get so angry I can't even formulate a proper post asking for help (witness my ranting and raving a few days ago here in Moe's). I mean, what with all this crap about homegroups and public/private networking, having several different ways to go about setting folder permissions... whenever I think about it, I see red. It was so easy in XP by comparison. Setup the network wizard, create a name for the network, install the IPX protocol, and boom. Everything works as it should. Want to share a folder? Right-click, click on properties and select "Yes I want to share this folder on my unsecured network as far as you're concerned Microsoft now piss off" (or something to that effect) and it worked.
When it comes to sharing folders in Vista, I have to create a new guest user and make them a co-owner, and still some machines give errors when trying to connect to these folders. By and large, however, it worked. Media sharing was also easy between two Vista machines and Media Centre. Not so with Windows 7. They seem to have added yet more options to the Network & Sharing Centre. I mean, what's a homegroup? How do I get the Vista and XP machines in the apartment to connect to this homegroup? What if I want to create a workgroup with trusty old XP on one machine? What's with the network map? Why does one Vista machine show up on it, but the other gives a message about how it can't be explained? How do I tell Vista and 7 that I want to join that workgroup and ignore all their bullshittery about private sharing access? Renaming the network doesn't seem to do it. And then there's the sharing folders option in 7. To be able to even access, without changing anything, a shared folder, I seem to have to go through several different windows as the os tries to tell me in a condescending manner that anyone who doesn't do things Microsoft's way is a retard.
I right-click on a folder in 7. I select Share, and click apply. My Vista desktop can see it but not access it. I go back into the living room and attempt to set co-owner rights to the folder, except Microsoft have taken that bit out and replaced it with a read/write privilege for everyone. Except the Vista machine still cannot access the folder. Back into the living room again, this time heading for the security option after I right-click. Finally the Vista machine can access the folder, I can copy files into it and everything seems hunky dory. Except when I try to play a video file across the network, nothing happens. Zip. Same thing when I add those shared folders (where every possible option, of which there are several, to make sure that it is shared are selected) in Media Centre - just a black screen. Nothing happens. The red mist descends again. This is all because Microsoft just have to move in what looks like a more modern direction with homegroups and public networking and all that crap, and simply installing the IPX protocol and running a setup wizard just won't cut it these days.
Argh, I've tried to post about my problems with networking in Vista and 7, and again it's turned into a huge rant. Godammit, I hate you, Microsoft! One of the best things about the media pc in the living room was being able to store all of our media on a terabyte hard drive and being able to watch whatever I want in my bedroom, either wirelessly with my laptop or over the wired router on my desktop. Now I can't do this simple task because Microsoft have fucked up the network options so badly in their attempts to make it "easier" and "clearer to understand even for retard doofuses like yourself, Rohan. You doofus."
I hate them. HATE them. And the sad thing is, I love both Vista and 7. Basically, I'm currently feeling like Gabe in that old comic when he tried to sign up to Sega.net on his Dreamcast.
Edit - And why can't 7 see XP machines over the network? That much Vista could do, at least >_<
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...and I thought of how all those people died, and what a good death that is. That nobody can blame you for it, because everyone else died along with you, and it is the fault of none, save those who did the killing.
2. It's a bootable .iso. Use a program like imgburn and you can't go wrong.
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...and I thought of how all those people died, and what a good death that is. That nobody can blame you for it, because everyone else died along with you, and it is the fault of none, save those who did the killing.
If I install the beta, can I revert back to vista? If certain things dont work Id like to go back without a major wipe....
If you have enough room on a drive, use Vista's backup system to create a restore image. It basically takes a full snapshot of your system, and if you want to revert back to it, you boot from your Vista disk to do so.
Also re: networking:
My XP computers show up normally, can't help you there. I'm going to ask someone in the Windows Networking division if they plan to come out with Homegroup functionality for Vista and XP based systems.
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edited January 2009
You can also get it from the torrent sites as well you just gotta grab a beta key from the official site.
You can also mount it with daemon tools and copy the data onto a flash drive and go from there too.
I guess at some point someone compressed the hard drive to free up some space. Now, unfortunately, the OS won't load because the Boot Manager has been compressed. Is there anyway to boot in safe mode or load a restore point? I also tried running a recovery CD but it doesn't seem to want to boot from the disk.
So I just installed it on a laptop with an ati x600. I installed the 64bit version and now i cant really find any 64bit drivers for the x600. So anyone know where I could get some?
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edited January 2009
I just installed Windows 7 on my Dell Latitude D410. Smooth sailing so far. I've never used Vista and didn't even use Explorer in XP so this whole thing is pretty new to me.
I've installed the beta on our media pc, and everything is hunky dory but for the sound. The pc has the typical onboard motherboard sound chip - Realtek HD Audio - and sound is just a little crackly sometimes. Changing to the Realtek Vista drivers make it ten times worse, so we're stuck with the drivers that come with the beta. Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing the same thing?
I have the same chipset and I'm not having any issues. Sorry.
run the driver setup.exe through the compatibility wizard and then install it.
I have the vista realtek driver and its just peachy.
In fact, pre-compatibility wizard none of my drivers worked, post compatibility wizard, all of them did.
I full migrated my gaming desktop to win7 and love it to death so far.
New taskbar is my favorite thing is computing right now (yes I know they stole bits from other things)
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This is more of a general partition question more so than a Windows 7 question but I figured it would be a good enough place to ask.
So, I set up a 20GB partition to install Windows 7 onto and that all went well and fine and I have it all installed. Now, since I used the same hard drive and just made a partition, is it possible to run the games and such that I have in Vista through the Vista partition while running Win7? I went through the manager and gave the old Vista partition a letter (E) in the Win 7 thing so it shows up. I can look through the folders and stuff but it just shows general folders, no .exe's. Is there a way to get them to work or is that just a no go for safety reasons?
Depends on the game. It's very weird that you wouldn't be seeing .exes. Depending on the game you may just need to run the .exe or you may need to reinstall or download a dx93dwtvr.dll.
Depends on the game. It's very weird that you wouldn't be seeing .exes. Depending on the game you may just need to run the .exe or you may need to reinstall or download a dx93dwtvr.dll.
Could it be that i'm on a 32bit beta of Win 7 (got it before it was officially released) and a 64bit version of Vista? I just remembered to mention that now...
EDIT: oddly enough after looking further not all .exe's are there. Crysis and WAR show up but WoW doesn't. Neither does Stalker. In the WoW directly for a reference, it just shows the interface, WTF and WauBackups folder, the rest of the directory is empty. Other non-gaming programs seem to show up. iTunes doesn't run though saying it needs to be repaired to work with Vista. Is all this basic run of the course stuff or did I slightly screw something up when I installed Windows 7?
For the record, after reading that iTuns error, at the boot selection window on start-up it does say "Windows Vista Premium (Recovered)" there. Should it? (I had to recover it after installing Windows 7 which I found odd, but it still boots up and runs the same as before).
Well my laptop which ran Ubuntu for about a year has become a Windows 7 laptop. It runs better than XP ever did... weird. It's a HP nc6000 with ati mobility 64mb if anyone's wondering. The CPU fan (or some fan anyway) is running full blast nearly all the time, but it did that in XP and Ubuntu also.
God damn standby is fast. I am loving it after an hour of playing around on it. The only issues I ran into were touchpad drivers (I had to get the Vista Synaptics package to get scrolling and tapping) and video and wireless drivers took a few runs of Windows Update.
Otherwise install was quick and painless. The new taskbar is sweet. I can't wait for retail; I'm definitely upgrading my 64-bit Vista desktop then (maybe sooner).
I love this OS to death. BUT: has anyone figured out how get Firefox out of Safe-Mode in it? I miss my add-ons.
Uhh, it's right there in the Start Menu shortcut?
I like this OS. I like the new TaskDock and I like the refinements to the visual elements of the theme, thought it's still very Microsoft flashy and not really classy in the same way Apple OSes are. I've not really tinkered with any of the other stuff yet. I'm going to try installing some Vista drivers and seeing if it gets upset.
Curious... Why are some of you upgrading to this? It's still beta, and eventually they're going to hit the "off" switch... what will you do? Why would you choose to overwrite your current OS for one that isn't going to last forever? Again, just curious...
Got my 64-bit downloaded and got a key, probably just going to make a partition on one of the SATAs.
With Vista they just released a new version of the beta, where they gave you a new code and allowed the your test copy to continue and then when the new OS does come out we can just switch from the test to full retail.
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Two options to fix that:
A) Run it in windowed mode (with Aero, you don't get nearly the same performance hit as you used to with non-composited desktop graphics). If you want it to be full screen add --noborder to the launch options, and set the game to windowed and your display resolution.
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Yea that happens on XP for me every once in awhile.
Wish I could move the show desktop button, as I've used it religiously for years now on the left side.
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"Hope he dies tbh but a ban would do."
- Pentium M 1.7 Centrino
- 1.5 gigs of ram
- Intel integrated
Anyone installed it on a similar system? Its obviously the Intel integrated I'm worried about, am I going to be OK though?
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My laptop is running integrated express chipset 965 and runs beautifully
I find the window version to be useful; I often have to refer to pieces of data on a buried window or three.
Desktop? Beyond looking at a static gadget, I don't see much use (though I try to avoid having stuff on the desktop).
Both times getting the newer Beta versions fixed my issues.
Oh and Daemon tools, but I have yet to need to use that.
Satans..... hints.....
I've got weather and system stats gadgets on my desktop, so I find the desktop bit useful. As for the window version, pretty much what Ego said.
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Thanks, shall give it a go.
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I have the same chipset and I'm not having any issues. Sorry.
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When it comes to sharing folders in Vista, I have to create a new guest user and make them a co-owner, and still some machines give errors when trying to connect to these folders. By and large, however, it worked. Media sharing was also easy between two Vista machines and Media Centre. Not so with Windows 7. They seem to have added yet more options to the Network & Sharing Centre. I mean, what's a homegroup? How do I get the Vista and XP machines in the apartment to connect to this homegroup? What if I want to create a workgroup with trusty old XP on one machine? What's with the network map? Why does one Vista machine show up on it, but the other gives a message about how it can't be explained? How do I tell Vista and 7 that I want to join that workgroup and ignore all their bullshittery about private sharing access? Renaming the network doesn't seem to do it. And then there's the sharing folders option in 7. To be able to even access, without changing anything, a shared folder, I seem to have to go through several different windows as the os tries to tell me in a condescending manner that anyone who doesn't do things Microsoft's way is a retard.
I right-click on a folder in 7. I select Share, and click apply. My Vista desktop can see it but not access it. I go back into the living room and attempt to set co-owner rights to the folder, except Microsoft have taken that bit out and replaced it with a read/write privilege for everyone. Except the Vista machine still cannot access the folder. Back into the living room again, this time heading for the security option after I right-click. Finally the Vista machine can access the folder, I can copy files into it and everything seems hunky dory. Except when I try to play a video file across the network, nothing happens. Zip. Same thing when I add those shared folders (where every possible option, of which there are several, to make sure that it is shared are selected) in Media Centre - just a black screen. Nothing happens. The red mist descends again. This is all because Microsoft just have to move in what looks like a more modern direction with homegroups and public networking and all that crap, and simply installing the IPX protocol and running a setup wizard just won't cut it these days.
Argh, I've tried to post about my problems with networking in Vista and 7, and again it's turned into a huge rant. Godammit, I hate you, Microsoft! One of the best things about the media pc in the living room was being able to store all of our media on a terabyte hard drive and being able to watch whatever I want in my bedroom, either wirelessly with my laptop or over the wired router on my desktop. Now I can't do this simple task because Microsoft have fucked up the network options so badly in their attempts to make it "easier" and "clearer to understand even for retard doofuses like yourself, Rohan. You doofus."
I hate them. HATE them. And the sad thing is, I love both Vista and 7. Basically, I'm currently feeling like Gabe in that old comic when he tried to sign up to Sega.net on his Dreamcast.
Edit - And why can't 7 see XP machines over the network? That much Vista could do, at least >_<
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1)How large is the download, and where can I find it?
2)Can I make a boot disk with it?
1. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/ - roughly 2GB in size
2. It's a bootable .iso. Use a program like imgburn and you can't go wrong.
Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
If you have enough room on a drive, use Vista's backup system to create a restore image. It basically takes a full snapshot of your system, and if you want to revert back to it, you boot from your Vista disk to do so.
Also re: networking:
My XP computers show up normally, can't help you there. I'm going to ask someone in the Windows Networking division if they plan to come out with Homegroup functionality for Vista and XP based systems.
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You can also mount it with daemon tools and copy the data onto a flash drive and go from there too.
Satans..... hints.....
I guess at some point someone compressed the hard drive to free up some space. Now, unfortunately, the OS won't load because the Boot Manager has been compressed. Is there anyway to boot in safe mode or load a restore point? I also tried running a recovery CD but it doesn't seem to want to boot from the disk.
I just upgraded because I am lazy. It took me a fair while and I had two computability problems with software.
Other than that it was as easy as pie.
Satans..... hints.....
run the driver setup.exe through the compatibility wizard and then install it.
I have the vista realtek driver and its just peachy.
In fact, pre-compatibility wizard none of my drivers worked, post compatibility wizard, all of them did.
I full migrated my gaming desktop to win7 and love it to death so far.
New taskbar is my favorite thing is computing right now (yes I know they stole bits from other things)
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So, I set up a 20GB partition to install Windows 7 onto and that all went well and fine and I have it all installed. Now, since I used the same hard drive and just made a partition, is it possible to run the games and such that I have in Vista through the Vista partition while running Win7? I went through the manager and gave the old Vista partition a letter (E) in the Win 7 thing so it shows up. I can look through the folders and stuff but it just shows general folders, no .exe's. Is there a way to get them to work or is that just a no go for safety reasons?
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Could it be that i'm on a 32bit beta of Win 7 (got it before it was officially released) and a 64bit version of Vista? I just remembered to mention that now...
EDIT: oddly enough after looking further not all .exe's are there. Crysis and WAR show up but WoW doesn't. Neither does Stalker. In the WoW directly for a reference, it just shows the interface, WTF and WauBackups folder, the rest of the directory is empty. Other non-gaming programs seem to show up. iTunes doesn't run though saying it needs to be repaired to work with Vista. Is all this basic run of the course stuff or did I slightly screw something up when I installed Windows 7?
For the record, after reading that iTuns error, at the boot selection window on start-up it does say "Windows Vista Premium (Recovered)" there. Should it? (I had to recover it after installing Windows 7 which I found odd, but it still boots up and runs the same as before).
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God damn standby is fast. I am loving it after an hour of playing around on it. The only issues I ran into were touchpad drivers (I had to get the Vista Synaptics package to get scrolling and tapping) and video and wireless drivers took a few runs of Windows Update.
Otherwise install was quick and painless. The new taskbar is sweet. I can't wait for retail; I'm definitely upgrading my 64-bit Vista desktop then (maybe sooner).
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I like this OS. I like the new TaskDock and I like the refinements to the visual elements of the theme, thought it's still very Microsoft flashy and not really classy in the same way Apple OSes are. I've not really tinkered with any of the other stuff yet. I'm going to try installing some Vista drivers and seeing if it gets upset.
Got my 64-bit downloaded and got a key, probably just going to make a partition on one of the SATAs.