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    FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Air wrote: »
    everyone vote for blackwater

    I'm thinking of just writing in Cheney so that when he ends up at the top of the government anyways, I will be spared

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    HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I wonder if Cheney will leave peacefully or refuse to hand over the keys to the Death Star to Biden.

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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Futore wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    futore if you want to pay me some money I can go out and properly educate groups or individuals.

    I wish. I would be the raddest president and totally move to get education all sorts of amazing and the main focus of the country.
    it'd be pretty easy with certain people out of the way.

    just say the word, man, I'm so ready

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    FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hunter wrote: »
    I wonder if Cheney will leave peacefully or refuse to hand over the keys to the Death Star to Biden.

    someone's going to get peppered on their train ride to work

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    HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Honestly, Cheney is the most powerful man alive today. He shot a dude in the face, while most likely being careless and/or intoxicated, and had the pull to make the man who gargled birdshot get on national TV and apologize for being shot by the vice president. Now that's authority.

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    GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Futore wrote: »
    Stale wrote: »
    GRMike wrote: »
    Futore wrote: »
    Futore wrote: »
    Stale wrote: »
    not quite getting my point here are you?

    I was guessing one of two-ish options, really :P

    So you think the elections are 100% rigged? I really doubt that.

    You've never actually read our constitution, have you?

    Ten years ago. Educate me, what is Stale talking about?

    Our president is chosen by an electoral college, which is essentially alll the senators and all the representatives voting on who they think should be president.

    Your vote is part of the popular vote. It doesn't matter.

    HOWEVER, you can make a bit of a difference if you vote for stuff in local and state elections. Those are usually the things that affect you most directly and on a common basis. It is also the way that you chose who you want to chose who the president is.

    edit: i'm sure someone is going to get fussy about this summary, but i don't care. It's close enough and i'm naked right now deciding what i should wear for school

    I don't know this but, in history has the electoral college ever broken with the popular vote of each state? I mean has a candidate ever received the popular vote in a state and the EC board of the state decided to vote another way.


    the elctoral voters are not held accountable to vote either way

    and yes, they have, do, and will, vote against the popular vote

    OH HEY PRESIDENT BUSH IN 2000

    I was not aware that the Electoral College broke with the popular vote in any individual state. Except for the snafu in Florida, the popular vote at the end was still in Bush's favor so the votes went to Bush.

    I would like to see a serious example of the EC voting against the popular vote in any state for any election.

    I think it should be abolished myself, but fear of corruption isn't my reasoning.

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    MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Electoral colleges are draconic and stupid.

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    GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I agree.

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    AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    GRMike wrote: »
    Futore wrote: »
    Stale wrote: »
    GRMike wrote: »
    Futore wrote: »
    Futore wrote: »
    Stale wrote: »
    not quite getting my point here are you?

    I was guessing one of two-ish options, really :P

    So you think the elections are 100% rigged? I really doubt that.

    You've never actually read our constitution, have you?

    Ten years ago. Educate me, what is Stale talking about?

    Our president is chosen by an electoral college, which is essentially alll the senators and all the representatives voting on who they think should be president.

    Your vote is part of the popular vote. It doesn't matter.

    HOWEVER, you can make a bit of a difference if you vote for stuff in local and state elections. Those are usually the things that affect you most directly and on a common basis. It is also the way that you chose who you want to chose who the president is.

    edit: i'm sure someone is going to get fussy about this summary, but i don't care. It's close enough and i'm naked right now deciding what i should wear for school

    I don't know this but, in history has the electoral college ever broken with the popular vote of each state? I mean has a candidate ever received the popular vote in a state and the EC board of the state decided to vote another way.


    the elctoral voters are not held accountable to vote either way

    and yes, they have, do, and will, vote against the popular vote

    OH HEY PRESIDENT BUSH IN 2000

    I was not aware that the Electoral College broke with the popular vote in any individual state. Except for the snafu in Florida, the popular vote at the end was still in Bush's favor so the votes went to Bush.

    I would like to see a serious example of the EC voting against the popular vote in any state for any election.

    I think it should be abolished myself, but fear of corruption isn't my reasoning.

    I think the last time an electoral voter voted against his state was the Dukkakis (sp?) fiasco.

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    FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hunter wrote: »
    Honestly, Cheney is the most powerful man alive today. He shot a dude in the face, while most likely being careless and/or intoxicated, and had the pull to make the man who gargled birdshot get on national TV and apologize for being shot by the vice president. Now that's authority.

    Have you read that new book about him? Angler i think it is called. I want to get it, but hardcovers are expensive

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    GRMike wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    GRMike wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Futore wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
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    guys i just found out my journalism class is going on some kind of gay field trip in like 45 minutes.

    do i get hella toasted beforehand y/n

    yes
    then when you're on the field trip, scream "what a scoop!" and jot stuff down or take a picture with an old timey camera

    oh my god i want to wear a fedora and carry a flashbulb

    then if i see police officers i will yell "CHEESE IT"

    ahahahahaha i wish i were in class with you, Fandy. I'd come in late every day and bust through the door yelling, "STOP THE PRESSES! STOP THE PRESSES!"

    that would be so awesome. it'd give me great joy to have someone else legitimately interested in this stuff in the class, because usually it's fucking pathetic.

    for our section on print media, we had to bring in our favorite book or magazine. there were like 23 cosmos and one guy with an indy music magazine, then i stood up and talked about On The Road and The Big Sleep and everybody looked at me like i had tentacles or something.

    that's too bad. I need to find a place with a good Journalism department. I don't know how University of Florida's is and the school i'm in right now has Journalism as a major, but no classes on it. :|

    it's seriously a phoney major. i'm technically mass communications - journalism, and it's absolutely retarded. it is essentially a major for people who are interested in obtaining a piece of paper and interning for the rest of their lives.

    i'm switching over to english next semester for sure. from what i've read/heard, most successful journalists/writers take english degrees and then move onto a graduate school where they study journalism.

    You are going to be an intern your first several years no matter where you go anyhow, unless your lead reporter gets murdered and you turn into the AP, photog and editor your second week on the job.

    probably. i'm just saying journalism as a major is short of an illegitimate short cut, and the classes are weird hybrids of english and mass comm. it's just dumb.

    I'll agree with that. It wasn't long before I switched my major to English as well. About the only class that helps in a JMC degree plan is Comm Law. I really enjoyed it.

    But I digress- all my experience is in TV news and TV news isn't journalism.

    You're being far too reductionist here and I think you don't really know what you are on about.

    What you should be doing if you want to work as a practicing reporter journalist is take a journalism major, not english major. Unless you have some amorphous 'general non specific journalism' degrees in America, because here in the UK they split them up into a bunch of different specialist topics. For example, I took Journalism single hons whereas I could have taken broadcast, or sports reporting, or newscasting, multiple media journalism, hard journalism (yes many sniggers at that).

    The point being that people who want to work as a journalism with an english major do end up being interns for years. People with the right journalism degree walk right into a position. Like I did.

    Such a misnomer that a straight journalism degree is worth less than english. For starters, if you go to a decent university they will assume you have the base level of english skills required for an english major even to be allowed onto the journalism course. for two years i essentially taught my roommate his entire english major because it is such a different subject here in the UK.

    Then again, if you cant write for shit it doesnt matter which course you take, you will fail. I saw a guy the same age as I get fired on his first day because in copy he submitted for editing he spelled one word incorrectly.

    If in your experience though an English major is more useful then go for it. But if you want to be a reporter, the stereotypical 'STOP THE PRESSES' scoop scoop reporter, then you are taking too general a course to have many job opportunities.

    For example, here in the UK (and again, it may be wildly different in the US) the straight journalism courses teach a broad spectrum of ethical and legal modules that are accompanied by government standard exams. You cant be hired by a newspaper without these and no english course will do them as standard. So you are taking them in your own time.

    Seems strange to me to say you want to do an english major to be a journalist, unless those two definitions are different in the US. Here in the UK, english majors get shit on all over the place because the rest of us didn't need 3 years of tuition to attain that level of command over the language we write in.

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    AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
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    GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    GRMike wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    GRMike wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Futore wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Futore wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    beavotron wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    guys i just found out my journalism class is going on some kind of gay field trip in like 45 minutes.

    do i get hella toasted beforehand y/n

    yes
    then when you're on the field trip, scream "what a scoop!" and jot stuff down or take a picture with an old timey camera

    oh my god i want to wear a fedora and carry a flashbulb

    then if i see police officers i will yell "CHEESE IT"

    ahahahahaha i wish i were in class with you, Fandy. I'd come in late every day and bust through the door yelling, "STOP THE PRESSES! STOP THE PRESSES!"

    that would be so awesome. it'd give me great joy to have someone else legitimately interested in this stuff in the class, because usually it's fucking pathetic.

    for our section on print media, we had to bring in our favorite book or magazine. there were like 23 cosmos and one guy with an indy music magazine, then i stood up and talked about On The Road and The Big Sleep and everybody looked at me like i had tentacles or something.

    that's too bad. I need to find a place with a good Journalism department. I don't know how University of Florida's is and the school i'm in right now has Journalism as a major, but no classes on it. :|

    it's seriously a phoney major. i'm technically mass communications - journalism, and it's absolutely retarded. it is essentially a major for people who are interested in obtaining a piece of paper and interning for the rest of their lives.

    i'm switching over to english next semester for sure. from what i've read/heard, most successful journalists/writers take english degrees and then move onto a graduate school where they study journalism.

    You are going to be an intern your first several years no matter where you go anyhow, unless your lead reporter gets murdered and you turn into the AP, photog and editor your second week on the job.

    probably. i'm just saying journalism as a major is short of an illegitimate short cut, and the classes are weird hybrids of english and mass comm. it's just dumb.

    I'll agree with that. It wasn't long before I switched my major to English as well. About the only class that helps in a JMC degree plan is Comm Law. I really enjoyed it.

    But I digress- all my experience is in TV news and TV news isn't journalism.

    You're being far too reductionist here and I think you don't really know what you are on about.

    What you should be doing if you want to work as a practicing reporter journalist is take a journalism major, not english major. Unless you have some amorphous 'general non specific journalism' degrees in America, because here in the UK they split them up into a bunch of different specialist topics. For example, I took Journalism single hons whereas I could have taken broadcast, or sports reporting, or newscasting, multiple media journalism, hard journalism (yes many sniggers at that).

    The point being that people who want to work as a journalism with an english major do end up being interns for years. People with the right journalism degree walk right into a position. Like I did.

    Such a misnomer that a straight journalism degree is worth less than english. For starters, if you go to a decent university they will assume you have the base level of english skills required for an english major even to be allowed onto the journalism course. for two years i essentially taught my roommate his entire english major because it is such a different subject here in the UK.

    Then again, if you cant write for shit it doesnt matter which course you take, you will fail. I saw a guy the same age as I get fired on his first day because in copy he submitted for editing he spelled one word incorrectly.

    If in your experience though an English major is more useful then go for it. But if you want to be a reporter, the stereotypical 'STOP THE PRESSES' scoop scoop reporter, then you are taking too general a course to have many job opportunities.

    For example, here in the UK (and again, it may be wildly different in the US) the straight journalism courses teach a broad spectrum of ethical and legal modules that are accompanied by government standard exams. You cant be hired by a newspaper without these and no english course will do them as standard. So you are taking them in your own time.

    Seems strange to me to say you want to do an english major to be a journalist, unless those two definitions are different in the US. Here in the UK, english majors get shit on all over the place because the rest of us didn't need 3 years of tuition to attain that level of command over the language we write in.

    How long have you worked in a professional news medium?

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Futore wrote: »
    Stale wrote: »
    GRMike wrote: »

    I don't know this but, in history has the electoral college ever broken with the popular vote of each state? I mean has a candidate ever received the popular vote in a state and the EC board of the state decided to vote another way.


    the elctoral voters are not held accountable to vote either way

    and yes, they have, do, and will, vote against the popular vote

    OH HEY PRESIDENT BUSH IN 2000

    Pay attention, Kyle!

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    GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I said by State. Not nationally. I was pretty clear in the part you didn't resize and boldface.

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    GRMike wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    GRMike wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    GRMike wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Futore wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Futore wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    beavotron wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    guys i just found out my journalism class is going on some kind of gay field trip in like 45 minutes.

    do i get hella toasted beforehand y/n

    yes
    then when you're on the field trip, scream "what a scoop!" and jot stuff down or take a picture with an old timey camera

    oh my god i want to wear a fedora and carry a flashbulb

    then if i see police officers i will yell "CHEESE IT"

    ahahahahaha i wish i were in class with you, Fandy. I'd come in late every day and bust through the door yelling, "STOP THE PRESSES! STOP THE PRESSES!"

    that would be so awesome. it'd give me great joy to have someone else legitimately interested in this stuff in the class, because usually it's fucking pathetic.

    for our section on print media, we had to bring in our favorite book or magazine. there were like 23 cosmos and one guy with an indy music magazine, then i stood up and talked about On The Road and The Big Sleep and everybody looked at me like i had tentacles or something.

    that's too bad. I need to find a place with a good Journalism department. I don't know how University of Florida's is and the school i'm in right now has Journalism as a major, but no classes on it. :|

    it's seriously a phoney major. i'm technically mass communications - journalism, and it's absolutely retarded. it is essentially a major for people who are interested in obtaining a piece of paper and interning for the rest of their lives.

    i'm switching over to english next semester for sure. from what i've read/heard, most successful journalists/writers take english degrees and then move onto a graduate school where they study journalism.

    You are going to be an intern your first several years no matter where you go anyhow, unless your lead reporter gets murdered and you turn into the AP, photog and editor your second week on the job.

    probably. i'm just saying journalism as a major is short of an illegitimate short cut, and the classes are weird hybrids of english and mass comm. it's just dumb.

    I'll agree with that. It wasn't long before I switched my major to English as well. About the only class that helps in a JMC degree plan is Comm Law. I really enjoyed it.

    But I digress- all my experience is in TV news and TV news isn't journalism.

    You're being far too reductionist here and I think you don't really know what you are on about.

    What you should be doing if you want to work as a practicing reporter journalist is take a journalism major, not english major. Unless you have some amorphous 'general non specific journalism' degrees in America, because here in the UK they split them up into a bunch of different specialist topics. For example, I took Journalism single hons whereas I could have taken broadcast, or sports reporting, or newscasting, multiple media journalism, hard journalism (yes many sniggers at that).

    The point being that people who want to work as a journalism with an english major do end up being interns for years. People with the right journalism degree walk right into a position. Like I did.

    Such a misnomer that a straight journalism degree is worth less than english. For starters, if you go to a decent university they will assume you have the base level of english skills required for an english major even to be allowed onto the journalism course. for two years i essentially taught my roommate his entire english major because it is such a different subject here in the UK.

    Then again, if you cant write for shit it doesnt matter which course you take, you will fail. I saw a guy the same age as I get fired on his first day because in copy he submitted for editing he spelled one word incorrectly.

    If in your experience though an English major is more useful then go for it. But if you want to be a reporter, the stereotypical 'STOP THE PRESSES' scoop scoop reporter, then you are taking too general a course to have many job opportunities.

    For example, here in the UK (and again, it may be wildly different in the US) the straight journalism courses teach a broad spectrum of ethical and legal modules that are accompanied by government standard exams. You cant be hired by a newspaper without these and no english course will do them as standard. So you are taking them in your own time.

    Seems strange to me to say you want to do an english major to be a journalist, unless those two definitions are different in the US. Here in the UK, english majors get shit on all over the place because the rest of us didn't need 3 years of tuition to attain that level of command over the language we write in.

    How long have you worked in a professional news medium?

    3 years.

    4 if you count my final year at uni which was 90% placement experience, 6 days a week for 8 months.

    Not long enough time to have any sort of experience on the matter, but long enough that I can talk about how to get started in a real bitch of an industry.

    I'm not saying an English major will not get a job, because they will. But it will be harder.

    Then again, you have more options with an English major, than with a straight Journo, which is a major boon. But I wanted to be a reporter, I took a reporting course, had my first job and not an internship before I even graduated. I've done internships, of course, but never only done one.

    If anything an English major can pick and choose a wider variety of positions making it easier to get a job, but perhaps not the job they want.

    Either one is a viable route to a professional writing career is what I'm saying.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    did you eat paint chips as a child?

    I don't get why you're so stunned that a machine that's out of calibration isn't working correctly

    do you try to start your car knowing it has an empty tank or dead battery and then freak out that "omg car won't start how can this be?!"

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    GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Placement program. Nice. I had to get my job pretty much going door to door at all the news affiliates and public TV stations.

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    GRMike wrote: »
    Placement program. Nice. I had to get my job pretty much going door to door at all the news affiliates and public TV stations.

    Yeah co-op and placement programs are pretty fucking awesome.

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    FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Butters wrote: »
    Futore wrote: »
    Stale wrote: »
    GRMike wrote: »

    I don't know this but, in history has the electoral college ever broken with the popular vote of each state? I mean has a candidate ever received the popular vote in a state and the EC board of the state decided to vote another way.


    the elctoral voters are not held accountable to vote either way

    and yes, they have, do, and will, vote against the popular vote

    OH HEY PRESIDENT BUSH IN 2000

    Pay attention, Kyle!

    stop yelling at me. Florida sucks

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    AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Druhim wrote: »
    did you eat paint chips as a child?

    I don't get why you're so stunned that a machine that's out of calibration isn't working correctly

    do you try to start your car knowing it has an empty tank or dead battery and then freak out that "omg car won't start how can this be?!"

    I'm not stunned, but I'm surprised that even after he supposedly fixed it immediately fucked up again. And what about the people who won't catch that it's messed up?

    And could you please make an effort not to be a fucking internet cliché and curb your dickish tendencies? Is is that difficult to communicate like an adult?

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    sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited October 2008
    Stale wrote: »
    the elctoral voters are not held accountable to vote either way

    and yes, they have, do, and will, vote against the popular vote

    It's comparing apples to oranges to some extent.

    How would have the popular vote have turned out in 2000 if the candidates had been forced to run a national campaign for the popular vote instead of state-by-state vote? It's almost impossible to say, because non-competitive states generally have relatively low turnout.

    So, it's kind of inaccurate to place so much value in the "popular" vote in an election that was run on the premise of the electoral college.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Druhim wrote: »
    did you eat paint chips as a child?

    I don't get why you're so stunned that a machine that's out of calibration isn't working correctly

    do you try to start your car knowing it has an empty tank or dead battery and then freak out that "omg car won't start how can this be?!"

    I'm not stunned, but I'm surprised that even after he supposedly fixed it immediately fucked up again. And what about the people who won't catch that it's messed up?

    And could you please make an effort not to be a fucking internet cliché and curb your dickish tendencies? Is is that difficult to communicate like an adult?
    I'll treat you like an adult when you earn it
    machines malfunction
    sometimes they keep malfunctioning even after a non technician follows the basic steps they're told to follow and someone who's actually qualified to repair it will need to work on the machine
    I'm not talking specifically about voting machines in case that's not clear to your addled mind
    sometimes even techs screw up

    surprise, sometimes things don't work the way they're supposed to
    humans are fallible
    somehow we manage to keep going

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    sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited October 2008
    Stale wrote: »
    the elctoral voters are not held accountable to vote either way

    and yes, they have, do, and will, vote against the popular vote

    It's comparing apples to oranges to some extent.

    How would have the popular vote have turned out in 2000 if the candidates had been forced to run a national campaign for the popular vote instead of state-by-state vote? It's almost impossible to say, because non-competitive states generally have relatively low turnout.

    So, it's kind of inaccurate to place so much value in the "popular" vote in an election that was run on the premise of the electoral college.

    I will say that the election in 2000 was stolen, but only because Gore actually won florida under a full statewide recount

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Stale wrote: »
    the elctoral voters are not held accountable to vote either way

    and yes, they have, do, and will, vote against the popular vote

    It's comparing apples to oranges to some extent.

    How would have the popular vote have turned out in 2000 if the candidates had been forced to run a national campaign for the popular vote instead of state-by-state vote? It's almost impossible to say, because non-competitive states generally have relatively low turnout.

    So, it's kind of inaccurate to place so much value in the "popular" vote in an election that was run on the premise of the electoral college.

    I will say that the election in 2000 was stolen, but only because Gore actually won florida under a full statewide recount

    You mean the illegal recount. By the legal recount he lost.

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    AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yes, but I AM talking specifically about voting procedures and voting machines. This is what this thread's ABOUT.

    For something so crucial and foundational to the way our nation works, it's a big deal. But thank you for points out obvious facts about way regular machines work.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    yes it's so crucial that everything related to voting work perfectly even though such a thing is demonstrably impossible

    this is why I treat you like a child
    because you think and speak like a child

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Are you saying a receipt system would cut down on fraud or mistakes? Because as someone already said and in my experience, the receipt only serves to make the customer raise their voice more than they normally would. Very rarely does it magically prevent fuck ups.

    If anything, voting receipts would make the process slower and more aggravating. Receipts can be lost. Receipts can be forged. They can be traded, they can be copied.

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    fadingathedgesfadingathedges Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I actually thought the EC was required or at least always did vote with the popular vote in their state.

    Despite the FL 2000 shenanigans, are there many examples of EC going against the popular vote?

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Are you saying a receipt system would cut down on fraud or mistakes? Because as someone already said and in my experience, the receipt only serves to make the customer raise their voice more than they normally would. Very rarely does it magically prevent fuck ups.

    If anything, voting receipts would make the process slower and more aggravating. Receipts can be lost. Receipts can be forged. They can be traded, they can be copied.
    he's naive
    just smile and pat him on the head

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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    we should all vote with differently colored ping pong balls and make them in piles, whichever has the biggest pile wins.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    I think we should vote by picking which kitten we think is the cutest without knowing which candidate each kitten represents

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    AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Druhim wrote: »
    yes it's so crucial that everything related to voting work perfectly even though such a thing is demonstrably impossible

    this is why I treat you like a child
    because you think and speak like a child

    Have I said that it's possible for things to work perfectly? Or have I tried to suggest ways to improve it, while showing some of the problems?

    I think that answer is pretty clear. You are finding things to argue about or insult me over because it seems you need to.

    I'm sorry you feel the need to put people down online. But I won't play your game.

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Druhim wrote: »
    I think we should vote by picking which kitten we think is the cutest without knowing which candidate each kitten represents

    Here is a democratic system I can get behind.

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    MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »
    I think we should vote by picking which kitten we think is the cutest without knowing which candidate each kitten represents

    Here is a democratic system I can get behind.

    The cutest system.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Druhim wrote: »
    yes it's so crucial that everything related to voting work perfectly even though such a thing is demonstrably impossible

    this is why I treat you like a child
    because you think and speak like a child

    Have I said that it's possible for things to work perfectly? Or have I tried to suggest ways to improve it, while showing some of the problems?

    I think that answer is pretty clear. You are finding things to argue about or insult me over because it seems you need to.

    I'm sorry you feel the need to put people down online. But I won't play your game.
    ok, let's get specific if you want to be treated like an adult

    what specific "problem" have you shown by linking that video aside from the observation that equipment malfunctions sometimes? here's your chance to shine son

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    Wrench N RocketsWrench N Rockets Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I love how any time there is a mistake or error it automatically becomes ZOMG NEW WORLD ORDER CONSPIRACY on the internet.

    If people were really trying to rig an election, do you think they would do it in a way that any idiot could see?

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Druhim wrote: »
    yes it's so crucial that everything related to voting work perfectly even though such a thing is demonstrably impossible

    this is why I treat you like a child
    because you think and speak like a child

    Have I said that it's possible for things to work perfectly? Or have I tried to suggest ways to improve it, while showing some of the problems?

    I think that answer is pretty clear. You are finding things to argue about or insult me over because it seems you need to.

    I'm sorry you feel the need to put people down online. But I won't play your game.


    Here is how I operate on politics.

    If I think I have discovered a glaring flaw in the electoral system, I always assume I am not the one sane man on Earth and that dozens of other people have thought of it before I, more intelligent men and women in positions of power, who have vetted the idea and come to a conclusion.

    I don't go shouting from the rooftops 'LETS DO THIS I JUST THOUGHT OF IT I SEE NO DOWNSIDES' because

    A: There are always downsides, which people in this thread posted immediately and consistently.

    B: You come off as someone who hasn't done any thought on the matter and has simply blurted out the first political thought in your mind.

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    MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »
    yes it's so crucial that everything related to voting work perfectly even though such a thing is demonstrably impossible

    this is why I treat you like a child
    because you think and speak like a child

    Have I said that it's possible for things to work perfectly? Or have I tried to suggest ways to improve it, while showing some of the problems?

    I think that answer is pretty clear. You are finding things to argue about or insult me over because it seems you need to.

    I'm sorry you feel the need to put people down online. But I won't play your game.


    Here is how I operate on politics.

    If I think I have discovered a glaring flaw in the electoral system, I always assume I am not the one sane man on Earth and that dozens of other people have thought of it before I, more intelligent men and women in positions of power, who have vetted the idea and come to a conclusion.

    I don't go shouting from the rooftops 'LETS DO THIS I JUST THOUGHT OF IT I SEE NO DOWNSIDES' because

    A: There are always downsides, which people in this thread posted immediately and consistently.

    B: You come off as someone who hasn't done any thought on the matter and has simply blurted out the first political thought in your mind.

    yeah whatever hitler

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »
    yes it's so crucial that everything related to voting work perfectly even though such a thing is demonstrably impossible

    this is why I treat you like a child
    because you think and speak like a child

    Have I said that it's possible for things to work perfectly? Or have I tried to suggest ways to improve it, while showing some of the problems?

    I think that answer is pretty clear. You are finding things to argue about or insult me over because it seems you need to.

    I'm sorry you feel the need to put people down online. But I won't play your game.


    Here is how I operate on politics.

    If I think I have discovered a glaring flaw in the electoral system, I always assume I am not the one sane man on Earth and that dozens of other people have thought of it before I, more intelligent men and women in positions of power, who have vetted the idea and come to a conclusion.

    I don't go shouting from the rooftops 'LETS DO THIS I JUST THOUGHT OF IT I SEE NO DOWNSIDES' because

    A: There are always downsides, which people in this thread posted immediately and consistently.

    B: You come off as someone who hasn't done any thought on the matter and has simply blurted out the first political thought in your mind.

    yeah whatever hitler
    you're just trying to keep the man down

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