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  • UltimanecatUltimanecat Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'm going to ask again since it kind of got buried in the middle of another post which itself was buried by the flood of other posts:

    About the Talon Mercs:
    I snuck into a base of theirs (THE base?) and killed Commander Jabsco, but I still get Talon Mercs trying to collect contracts on me. Now, I didn't really clear out the base to avoid this, but I'm wondering if there's more to it than what I know or if it's even possible to get them to stop in the first place.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    Got to GNR tonight. Much easier than that fuckin fire ant pit. Which I still need to do. About to go to Rivet City. Is it all above ground or do I go into some more subways?

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Ultimanecat wrote: »
    I'm going to ask again since it kind of got buried in the middle of another post which itself was buried by the flood of other posts:

    About the Talon Mercs:
    I snuck into a base of theirs (THE base?) and killed Commander Jabsco, but I still get Talon Mercs trying to collect contracts on me. Now, I didn't really clear out the base to avoid this, but I'm wondering if there's more to it than what I know or if it's even possible to get them to stop in the first place.

    Fairly sure they keep coming.

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  • JubehJubeh Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Also reposting. I'm at Lamplight.

    About Sticky and Big Town
    Yeah so I got him killed. Is he important at all? Also, where the hell is Big Town?

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  • ShurakaiShurakai Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Ultimanecat wrote: »
    I'm going to ask again since it kind of got buried in the middle of another post which itself was buried by the flood of other posts:

    About the Talon Mercs:
    I snuck into a base of theirs (THE base?) and killed Commander Jabsco, but I still get Talon Mercs trying to collect contracts on me. Now, I didn't really clear out the base to avoid this, but I'm wondering if there's more to it than what I know or if it's even possible to get them to stop in the first place.
    I FUCKING SLAUGHTERED THEM ALL. They better not come back. I assumed that by killing their commander they can no longer receive contracts.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2008
    DisruptorX2 wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I was really saddened by how easy it was to completely fuck up towns. Level 9 or so and Megaton/Rivet City are looted. Rivet City was harder, but I expected more.
    Huh? You don't remember doing the same in 1/2?
    I never actually tried to do it in 1 or 2. Note that I didn't actually OWN either game, so my playing was far more limited.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    DisruptorX2 wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I was really saddened by how easy it was to completely fuck up towns. Level 9 or so and Megaton/Rivet City are looted. Rivet City was harder, but I expected more.
    Huh? You don't remember doing the same in 1/2?
    I never actually tried to do it in 1 or 2. Note that I didn't actually OWN either game, so my playing was far more limited.

    It was one of the highlights.

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  • LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Man new thread already, so many end-game spoilers to avoid. Y'all will have all beaten the game like 2+ times i'm done. I'm 50+ hours in and i'm just barely starting the GNR stuff. Think once i finish Washington's quest i'm gonna go sidetrack to Paradise Falls and make some new friends and get myself a travelling companion. Then, MAYBE, i'll get back too the main quesdt. Thank god there's no time limit like in Fallout 1.

    Anyone know the day and date when you escape the vault? I wanna see how long it's been.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2008
    DisruptorX2 wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    DisruptorX2 wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I was really saddened by how easy it was to completely fuck up towns. Level 9 or so and Megaton/Rivet City are looted. Rivet City was harder, but I expected more.
    Huh? You don't remember doing the same in 1/2?
    I never actually tried to do it in 1 or 2. Note that I didn't actually OWN either game, so my playing was far more limited.
    It was one of the highlights.
    Well, I knew you could do it, I just thought it required a higher level and a lot of equipment to manage. I just went all firesword on people.

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  • JubehJubeh Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    About the slaver guy that wants me to look for Lincoln stuff. Do I have to do his missions? Because he kind of pisses me off.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Jubeh wrote: »
    About the slaver guy that wants me to look for Lincoln stuff. Do I have to do his missions? Because he kind of pisses me off.

    You only have to do missions directly connected to the main plot.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    DisruptorX2 wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    DisruptorX2 wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I was really saddened by how easy it was to completely fuck up towns. Level 9 or so and Megaton/Rivet City are looted. Rivet City was harder, but I expected more.
    Huh? You don't remember doing the same in 1/2?
    I never actually tried to do it in 1 or 2. Note that I didn't actually OWN either game, so my playing was far more limited.
    It was one of the highlights.
    Well, I knew you could do it, I just thought it required a higher level and a lot of equipment to manage. I just went all firesword on people.

    In Fallout 1, yes. In 2, no, I've levelled characters up by massacring the first couple villages for xp. Only works with melee/unarmed dudes, though.

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  • MrIamMeMrIamMe Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Im on my 2nd playthrough and Im level 16 without having been to megaton yet.

    One caveat though - since I got sick of almost dying in some areas I console added knowledge on power armour use.

    I was NOT going to leave my sweet ass outcast armour I found just lying there.

    EDIT: I'm killing anyone rude to me. There is no paradise falls anymore. They met the wrath of the lincoln repeater rifle.

    Sniper + 100 Small Guns + lincoln repeater rifle = many decapitations.

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  • LockeColeLockeCole Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I finally started running into super mutants (the police station quest) - the normal ones aren't that scary, hunting rifle to the head works pretty well. The brutes on the other hand wreck my shit - they are much better armed and armored.

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  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    So I finished Trouble on the Homefront peacefully.
    :cry:

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    I found that tilting it doesn't work very well, and once I started jerking it, I got much better results.

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  • JubehJubeh Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    DisruptorX2 wrote: »
    Jubeh wrote: »
    About the slaver guy that wants me to look for Lincoln stuff. Do I have to do his missions? Because he kind of pisses me off.

    You only have to do missions directly connected to the main plot.

    I mean is there any way to directly oppose this dude?

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  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Steel Angel wrote: »
    So I finished Trouble on the Homefront peacefully.
    :cry:
    Don't you always have to kill that guy if you talk to him?

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  • Canada_jezusCanada_jezus Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    randombattle wrote: »
    Steel Angel wrote: »
    So I finished Trouble on the Homefront peacefully.
    :cry:
    Don't you always have to kill that guy if you talk to him?
    Well if you don't kill the original overseer apparently.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Jubeh wrote: »
    DisruptorX2 wrote: »
    Jubeh wrote: »
    About the slaver guy that wants me to look for Lincoln stuff. Do I have to do his missions? Because he kind of pisses me off.

    You only have to do missions directly connected to the main plot.

    I mean is there any way to directly oppose this dude?

    If he's who I think he is
    There's the quest for the slave village in the Shrine of the Union. You collect a bunch of Lincoln stuff for them, then battle some slavers and take their super sexy metal armor

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  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    randombattle wrote: »
    Steel Angel wrote: »
    So I finished Trouble on the Homefront peacefully.
    :cry:
    Don't you always have to kill that guy if you talk to him?

    Well, peacefully as in everyone that doesn't try to kill you survived and I used dialogue to resolve the situation peacefully, resisting the urge to use a lever action rifle on a head.

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    Big Dookie wrote: »
    I found that tilting it doesn't work very well, and once I started jerking it, I got much better results.

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  • JensenJensen Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Question, not a huge spoiler since it's at the very beginning, i don't think, but in case:
    at the beginning of the game when heading to the overseers office I heard them questioning Amata, so i busted in and beat mack and the overseer to death with a bat. After, Amata wouldn't talk to me and so I went to the previous save and bypassed them this time and went straight for the tunnel. Should I have killed them or does it even matter?

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  • JubehJubeh Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    DisruptorX2 wrote: »
    Jubeh wrote: »
    DisruptorX2 wrote: »
    Jubeh wrote: »
    About the slaver guy that wants me to look for Lincoln stuff. Do I have to do his missions? Because he kind of pisses me off.

    You only have to do missions directly connected to the main plot.

    I mean is there any way to directly oppose this dude?

    If he's who I think he is
    There's the quest for the slave village in the Shrine of the Union. You collect a bunch of Lincoln stuff for them, then battle some slavers and take their super sexy metal armor

    Alright, sweet. Thanks buddy.

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Sheep wrote: »
    Got to GNR tonight. Much easier than that fuckin fire ant pit. Which I still need to do. About to go to Rivet City. Is it all above ground or do I go into some more subways?

    You can be completely subway free on your way there.

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  • fsmith1fsmith1 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Oh WOW, in regards to location 112:
    If you set the robot in Henderson's house to security mode, the shit he says is SO funny.

    "BY GOD! If I had hands I'd STRANGLE THE LIFE OUT OF YOU!"

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Jensen wrote: »
    Question, not a huge spoiler since it's at the very beginning, i don't think, but in case:
    at the beginning of the game when heading to the overseers office I heard them questioning Amata, so i busted in and beat mack and the overseer to death with a bat. After, Amata wouldn't talk to me and so I went to the previous save and bypassed them this time and went straight for the tunnel. Should I have killed them or does it even matter?
    She's sad because you killed the overseer, you can kill Mack with no problems. I don't know what happens if you just bypass the room.

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  • Walrus PeteWalrus Pete Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I keep second-guessing myself on what my skills/stats should be on my evil character. I'm thinking big guns and explosives, or maybe sub one of those for melee or unarmed.

    So many choices D:

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  • JarthJarth Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    God, I was having a complete blast with this game, what with the Rock It Launcher and Bloody Mess, but then I got through the story up to Vault 112. This game just continues to climb to new peaks of awesomeness. The first thing I tried to do? Pull out my Pip-Boy to see what the hell was going on, and all I got was
    a little kid's pip-boy watch! Hells yeah!
    Then I talked to "her" and did a few tasks...then it took a turn for the evil
    The Pint-Sized Slasher strikes again! MWAHAHA
    Man, I was a good character till then, lost a lot of karma :D
    Anyone else think it's odd that
    Slashing the people and not really killing them is -karma, but triggering the Chinese invasion and killing them for real in the world is +karma?! Mercy I guess, it gets them out of their fake hell.

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  • MegaMekMegaMek Girls like girls. Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Tiemler wrote: »
    The Laser Pistol sucks. I repaired one to nearly full condition, and it still deals like 8 damage. They're not really that scarce, and if you're short on ammo or want to save wear on your other guns, then it may be worth carrying around for the 3 weight. But investing the points into Energy Weapons to use it in VATS would be a complete waste. I just picked up a Laser Rifle, and it appears to have a good deal more kick, but so far, they're light on the ground.
    For anyone who's wondering exactly how wrong this guy is, I'll tell you right now: he's dead wrong. That laser pistol you find in the Super-Duper mart will last you up until the goddamned Citidel, where you can trade it in for a laser rifle, and even then it nice to keep for raiders and weaker critters.

    I'm playing through right now with high perception and intellegince, and the energy weapons skill has been great. You make so much money selling all the small guns and ammo you find, and Moira generally stocks enough energy cells, that you never have any problems. And you can just get traders to repair it. The only creatures that give me problems are the super mutant brutes, but frag grenades and bottlecap mines work well enough on them.

    tl;dr Energy Weapons is a perfectly viable skill choice, even in the early game.

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  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Jarth wrote: »
    God, I was having a complete blast with this game, what with the Rock It Launcher and Bloody Mess, but then I got through the story up to Vault 112. This game just continues to climb to new peaks of awesomeness. The first thing I tried to do? Pull out my Pip-Boy to see what the hell was going on, and all I got was
    a little kid's pip-boy watch! Hells yeah!
    Then I talked to "her" and did a few tasks...then it took a turn for the evil
    The Pint-Sized Slasher strikes again! MWAHAHA
    Man, I was a good character till then, lost a lot of karma :D
    Anyone else think it's odd that
    Slashing the people and not really killing them is -karma, but triggering the Chinese invasion and killing them for real in the world is +karma?! Mercy I guess, it gets them out of their fake hell.
    If you read the background on what has been going on there in the 200 years since the big bangs it's pretty clear how you get +karma for doing that.

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  • JubehJubeh Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    randombattle wrote: »
    If you read the background on what has been going on there in the 200 years since the big bangs it's pretty clear how you get +karma for doing that.

    Whoa wait I missed that. Mind filling me in?

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Jarth wrote: »
    Anyone else think it's odd that
    Slashing the people and not really killing them is -karma, but triggering the Chinese invasion and killing them for real in the world is +karma?! Mercy I guess, it gets them out of their fake hell.
    You lose karma for furthering their torment, and gain karma for releasing them from it in the only way possible. It isn't so much odd as morally ambiguous.
    Jubeh wrote: »
    randombattle wrote: »
    If you read the background on what has been going on there in the 200 years since the big bangs it's pretty clear how you get +karma for doing that.

    Whoa wait I missed that. Mind filling me in?
    MONUMENTAL SPOILERS
    The little girl is the doctor who runs the vault. He's been doing sick social and psychological experiments on the people in it using various artificial scenarios, playing them against each other to probe the limits of what their psyche can handle and so forth. The people are kept only subconsciously aware of the situation, at least one of them seems to have a vague idea upon direct questioning, though. The doctor implemented a safeguard system so he could end the entire mess when he was through, but the vault was designed to prevent him from killing himself, even with the safeguard program activated. By killing the people, you leave him stranded in there forever, alone.

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  • UltimanecatUltimanecat Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Meh, energy weapons are viable perhaps, but I'm still not really interested...there is a small gun (or two) for most of the combat situations you can find yourself in, but putzing around with a laser pistol for however long it takes you to get a rifle (which is not astoundingly better) just doesn't appeal to me.

    The energy weapons are fine, I'd just take the variety of all the small guns over them any day. And if small guns don't appeal to you, then melee and big guns are both fun options too.

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    But they don't melt people.

    Melting.

    Man I want a mod that melts people on every kill, I'd be all energy all the time if they did. I find that the .44 is just more satisfying more regularly with the loud boom and head splats.

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  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Jubeh wrote: »
    randombattle wrote: »
    If you read the background on what has been going on there in the 200 years since the big bangs it's pretty clear how you get +karma for doing that.

    Whoa wait I missed that. Mind filling me in?
    The overseer created that vault project as a means to basically live forever and keep working on whatever he wanted but as the years went by he found out that all he wanted to do was make people suffer and be miserable. Since he has total control over the matrix like world he just invents new situations for him to watch the same people get killed over and over.

    If killing the people who have been killed over and over for 200 years isn't doing the right thing I dunno what you think it would be.

    Good or bad doesn't come down to kill or don't kill. It is very dependent on the situation, especially in Fallout.



    Also you know you could get the
    alien blaster
    at the start of the game and have a god like energy weapon for the whole game. Not to mention just go out with 10 luck
    and you will have a decent supply of alien powercells from the ship crashes

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  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Fats wrote: »
    Jensen wrote: »
    Question, not a huge spoiler since it's at the very beginning, i don't think, but in case:
    at the beginning of the game when heading to the overseers office I heard them questioning Amata, so i busted in and beat mack and the overseer to death with a bat. After, Amata wouldn't talk to me and so I went to the previous save and bypassed them this time and went straight for the tunnel. Should I have killed them or does it even matter?
    She's sad because you killed the overseer, you can kill Mack with no problems. I don't know what happens if you just bypass the room.

    It's her dad.

    Man, my karma has crept up to very good and now the Talon Mercenaries keep dying around me. =\
    If I pop Tenpenny will they stop? Or will more come because of it?

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  • freakish lightfreakish light butterdick jones and his heavenly asshole machineRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    DisruptorX2 wrote: »
    Jubeh wrote: »
    DisruptorX2 wrote: »
    Jubeh wrote: »
    About the slaver guy that wants me to look for Lincoln stuff. Do I have to do his missions? Because he kind of pisses me off.

    You only have to do missions directly connected to the main plot.

    I mean is there any way to directly oppose this dude?

    If he's who I think he is
    There's the quest for the slave village in the Shrine of the Union. You collect a bunch of Lincoln stuff for them, then battle some slavers and take their super sexy metal armor

    I got his super sexy metal armor by shooting him in the face and taking it.

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  • MegaMekMegaMek Girls like girls. Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Ultimanecat wrote: »
    The energy weapons are fine, I'd just take the variety of all the small guns over them any day. And if small guns don't appeal to you, then melee and big guns are both fun options too.
    I wouldn't disagree with that. I'm just saying that energy weapons are just as viable.

    And yes, they melt people.

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  • UltimanecatUltimanecat Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    When I first talked to Burke, he pissed me off so I started shooting him in the face with a laser pistol. A few seconds later he was melting in slow motion.

    Then Viola came to look at his pile of ashes. Then I had sex with her.

    Another day in the Wastes...

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Ultimanecat wrote: »
    When I first talked to Burke, he pissed me off so I started shooting him in the face with a laser pistol. A few seconds later he was melting in slow motion.

    Then Viola came to look at his pile of ashes. Then I had sex with her.

    Another day in the Wastes...

    So what you're saying is, if I buy a laser pistol, women will have sex with me?

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  • LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Hevach wrote: »
    Ultimanecat wrote: »
    When I first talked to Burke, he pissed me off so I started shooting him in the face with a laser pistol. A few seconds later he was melting in slow motion.

    Then Viola came to look at his pile of ashes. Then I had sex with her.

    Another day in the Wastes...

    So what you're saying is, if I buy a laser pistol, women will have sex with me?

    If you buy it they will come. :winky:

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