Let's play Nomic

Darian

Wha? I thought that was only if you voted no for a motion that passes.

204.2; Should it be passed into law, proposal 204 indicates that if, and when, rule changes can be adopted without unanimity, the players who vote against winning proposals shall receive 5 points apiece. These players who receive 5 points also receive a mandatory change in status and become "Penguins."

kime

And I lose again. Wow I've had so many reading comprehension failures in this thread .

Anyways, who's got an idea for a new proposal?

And MechMantis' turn is next, right?

Darian

It is now MechMantis' turn, yes. He has until 5:57 PM EST on the 19th to submit something, and he's even active so it should go through.

MechMantis

I !Propose Rule 205: The Holiday Active Turn Skipping Rule

Players during the Holiday Week may !SKIP their active turn at the cost of immediately losing a chip and going inactive.

1. Holiday Week is defined as Midnight of the 21st of December to Midnight on the 27th of December.
2. Any player may skip their active turn as many times as it comes up, so long as they have chips

Okay, guys, seriously. Nomic is going to be taking a back burner for most of us. Hence this rule.

kime

psst. How is this any different than just not doing anything, besides losing a chip?

MechMantis

....

Shut it, you.

weatheredclown

I guess this has the advantage of being polite enough to pass the current turn along to somebody else, but of course that would just force them to spend a chip

weatheredclown

I'd like to propose a side car that Penguins can aquire PenguinPoints..
I'm not sure how yet.. but I want to do it.

kime

What would PenguinPoints do? We already have chips and regular points, you want to add a third thing ?

Oh, and I have to vote !no to MechMantis' proposal since. . . really. . . it doesn't do much. . .

weatheredclown

!no for MechMantis..

sorry

Darian

Yeah, I'm not seeing the benefit here. If it actually skipped their turn (such that someone else became the current player), maybe, but not as is.

!no for Mechmantis' proposal.

A Bear

!no for turn skipping as it stands.

kime

You know, if you guys would have just passed Darian's proposal,w e wouldn't have this problem. . .

A Bear

If the numbering is off, someone correct me, but...

I !propose side CAR 005:

Side CAR 005: The Riddler

1. Any Player may elect to propose a !Riddle in the form of a humorous or thoughtful question or puzzle requiring a clever response. Doing so will give the proposer the temporary title of "Riddler" for 24 hours. During the 24 hour period, other Players may publicly announce their intention to !Answer the proposed riddle, and send a single response via private message to the "Riddler" and to the "Cluemaster."
   A Player may propose a riddle if they meet the following conditions:
   1. The proposer is a Player with no current proposals open for a vote at the time of, or at any point during the duration of the proposed riddle. Once a riddle is proposed, the "Riddler" may not propose any new votable action, even if such inability to propose new votable actions results in penalty outside the jurisdiction of this rule.
   2. The proposer has not presented a riddle in the past 24 hours.
   3. There is no current Player with the title of "Riddler"
   4. The proposer is not the "Cluemaster"
2. At any time, a Player with the title of "Riddler" may !Vacate their title for a penalty of -10 points, closing the proposed riddle. Any players who have attempted to respond to the closed riddle before the vacation will be awarded 1 point, regardless of their answer.
3. Following the full conclusion of the 24 hour period as "Riddler" the Player will become "Cluemaster" for an indefinite period of time. The position of "Cluemaster" is unique and held only by the most recent "Riddler" following their 24 hour period as "Riddler."
   As "Cluemaster" the Player is awarded specific rights and duties:
   1. When a new riddle is proposed, the answer to the riddle is sent via private message from the proposer to the current "Cluemaster." The "Cluemaster" may not answer the riddle.
   2. At the end of the 24 hour period, either the "Riddler" or the "Cluemaster" may reveal the proper answer to the proposed riddle.
   3. The "Cluemaster" serves as a safeguard against unfair, improper, or inappropriate actions of the "Riddler" and as such may sanction the "Riddler", thus forcing the "Riddler" to !Vacate and be penalized -10 points. If the "Riddler" in question finds this action to be unfair, the "Riddler" may publicly !Challenge the "Cluemaster" in a 24-hour Player-juried trial, wherein both the "Cluemaster" and former "Riddler" in question may present their case, and all other Players may vote either to uphold or overturn the sanction. Overturning the sanction still results in the closure of the riddle and the loss of "Riddler" status, but the former "Riddler" is returned the 10 points, and the "Cluemaster" is instead penalized -10 points. If the challenge fails, the former "Riddler" in question loses an additional 5 points for a total penalty of -15 points.
4. At the end of the 24 hour period, all players with a reasonably correct answer (as determined by the "Cluemaster") will be rewarded with 2 points. For every incorrect answer the "Riddler" will be rewarded with 1 point.
5. Upon the passing of Side CAR 005, the Player "A Bear" will begin as "Cluemaster"

A Bear

So yea, that side car is really long, but I hope is makes sense and can allow for some interesting fun. Basically it will let us try to stump each other for points, and give us more things to do. It got really long as I tried to make sure nobody could abuse it or be dicks to one another.

kime

005 is the correct number. Although there have been several failed 005s before you, it appears to be cursed. I'll read through it more in a bit, need to pack now.

kime

Ah, sure, why not, I'll vote !yes. Didn't really check for loopholes or anything, but it sounds interesting enough.

kime

Hahahaha, so that passed with a resounding unanimous decision.

Darian

And... loses points for A Bear for lack of naming a word.

kime

True. Silly bear. Now I need to go think up a good riddle.

weatheredclown

haha.. awesome..

kime

!Riddle time!

What have I got in my pocket?

Yes, I'm cheating already.

A Bear

I vote !no to the current player's yet to be stated proposal. I think its Neffffffff's?

A Bear

And I !propose Side CAR 006: Winning.

Side CAR 006: Winning

1. All points, chips, and other signifiers are reset to 0.
2. Upon the passing of this Side CAR, any and all players who have made any post of any nature and of any number within this thread in the past 48 hours from this Side CAR's passing will receive 1 (one) Nomic credit immediately.
   1. As of the posting of this Side CAR this list includes (but is not limited to) the players A Bear, Darian, kime, and weatheredclown.
3. Any player with at least 1 (one) Nomic credit will have satisfied any and all victory conditions for this game.
4. Any player with no Nomic credits will have lost, and have had player status revoked.

kime

I vote !yes to A Bear's proposal

A Bear

Under rule 002 I will close my Side CAR 006, and with a 1-0 majority and no other active players, it will pass!

kime

Well then, as the only Players in the game now include A Bear, Darian, kime, and weatheredclown, and as these four Players have just won. . . . I think that's it.

*high five to A Bear*

A Bear

*HI5*

!wearethechampions

Darian

Does.... does this mean I don't need to go back and figure out any more scores?

kime

Darian wrote: »

Does.... does this mean I don't need to go back and figure out any more scores?

No, you are freeeeee! You were behind anyways, slacker.

Darian

Yay!

kime

So. . . . we never did anything with chips, did we? Too bad, that had potential. . .

A Bear

I found mine were delicious with some nice queso dip.

MechMantis

Gonna vote !Yes to that.

Whole-heartedly.

Darian

But... the voting already closed

MechMantis

Within 48 hours, not 24, it said.

At least that's how I read it.

Darian

He used another rule that allowed him to close voting early if at least half of the active players had voted on it. And I think kime was the only active player at the time...

MechMantis

Although pulling a game ender during holiday week is just plain low.

Because seriously, I've only really been able to check this every so often due to crazy holiday shenanigans.

kime

MechMantis wrote: »

Although pulling a game ender during holiday week is just plain low.

Because seriously, I've only really been able to check this every so often due to crazy holiday shenanigans.

I know. But really, this has been going on for over a month and a half, and it had been dying down for a while, now. Seemed like a good time to end it in a fun way, rather then it just kind of dying lamely.

We can do another one later and then you can be evil to us! :P

A Bear

Yea, I figured this one sort of needed to be put to bed. We had 0 active players for a couple of days.

But if anyone would like to get another game started come January I would be down.