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If my cd breaks are my mp3s now illegal?
Lord Jezo
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I have wondered this.. I have a cd, I ripped the tracks like everyone would to put them onto my mp3 player. Cd was bought legally new at a real store.
But then the cd found it's way underneath the drivers seat of my car somehow and when I find it months later it's cracked in half.
Are all the mp3s I made off this cd now illegal and should they be destroyed or else I get sent to prison?
But then the cd found it's way underneath the drivers seat of my car somehow and when I find it months later it's cracked in half.
Are all the mp3s I made off this cd now illegal and should they be destroyed or else I get sent to prison?
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The disc is meaningless, according to the modern music industry you're just paying for the "right" to listen to the songs on it anyway. You made a backup in the form of .mp3s in case the disc was ever irreparably damaged (which it was), so no, it's not illegal for you to listen to .mp3s of a disc that you legally bought.
And you don't go to prison for stealing music. You're either an idiot, or you're trolling, or you've been so brainwashed by the RIAA that you're afraid to listen to music you paid for.
How would they even catch you if it was illegal?
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Or so the MAFIAA wants everyone to believe.
There are two views:
1. You bought a physical product. Fair use laws lets you do whatever the hell with it, including backup copies and format shifting. In the backwards country known as USA, there are laws that make you a criminal if you try to actually use your fair use rights, such as the DMCA.
2. You only bought a license to listen to music that happens to come on a plastic disc. It broke? Fuck you, buy a new one.
I've got a bunch of MP3s for CDs that I've lost or lent out never to be seen again. I'm not worried about it.
Don't call him an idiot for having a question. That's unfair.
To add to this thread:
As far as I know, if you share those mp3s at all, you'd be in trouble.
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It drives me crazy when people think they're doing something wrong or illegal when they aren't, just because the music industry has a hardon for screwing the average consumer.
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Windows media player has it to about where you insert the disk and press yes and the music is auto-ripped to whatever format. Certainly don't have to be tech savvy for it anymore.
Totally, completely wrong.
Assuming US law is applicable, let's be clear: there is absolutely nothing in Title 17,107 ("Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use") granting you a right to make backup copies of your music. The notion of a backup copy (or "archival" copy) is introduced in Title 17,117(a)(1) ("Limitations on exclusive rights: Computer programs"), and is explicitly only applicable to computer software.
While some copyright lawyers believe that backup copies and format shifting are theoretically fair use following the outcome of Sony Corporation of America v. Universal City Studios (which determined that "time shifting" -- that is recording a broadcast for later playback via VHS tape or TiVo -- is fair use), I must stress, there is absolutely nothing in US law granting explicit fair use protection to backup albums or films.
At the same time though, the law doesn't deny you said right, and luckily in the US a law has to be in place to deny you rights, not grant you them.
But it IS a violation of existing copyright law to make a copy of a protected material without the rights to do so under Title 17.
This is why people like me have been screaming for 15 years about a dire need to overhaul copyright law to catch up with modern technology. Consumers don't have rights they need to explicitly be granted.