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Elite Beat Agents or Osu! Tatakae! OUENDEN! - Helping kids not wet the bed since 2007

ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
edited May 2009 in Games and Technology
So I just beat Elite Beat Agents today on the 2 start difficulty. Not a difficult task and despite failing some songs multiple times I enjoyed myself quite a lot. Even while trying to learn what in the world I was supposed to be doing on the last song when I would fail out in about 1.25 seconds.

So, naturally, I moved on to the hard 3 star difficulty.

Ouch. First off, the beginning slow songs are made even harder by the fact that if there's 2 seconds between taps you are still losing your success bar and you could have 1/4-1/2 of your bar and lose the song because the taps are so far apart.

Finally, and the reason for this post, I dislike that there are times when you only have 1 song to do. I am currently trying to get through Material Girl (2 stranded supermodels) and I could seriously beat the person who designed the "chart" for this song. It's just so RANDOM!! Argh.

Back to the grind.


Also, where's the cheapest I could probably find Oendin (sp?)? Is it possible to play with zero knowledge of Japanese? I really love the whole rhythm games on the DS thing right now, despite my current brick wall.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    You don't need any knowledge of Japanese to play Ouendan. In fact I probably enjoyed it more having no clue what the hell is going on.

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  • AggroChanAggroChan __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    Ouendan and Ouendan 2 are completely playable without knowing a word of jappo.
    Ouendan one may seem like a step back though without any bonus songs and unskippable openings as well as no download play.

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Apparently I have the Ninja level open as well. "Canned Heat"

    It's even WORSE than "Material Girl". The taps are not on beat, or don't seem like it!!! Arghh..

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Material Girl was one of my favorite songs in EBA. Was the first song that I got the highest rating or whatever on in the diva mode.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    It's worth getting Ouendan just for the second level, which is still the best scenario of all three games.

    It'll probably run you anywhere between $20-$30, the latter if you get it through Play-Asia or somewhere.

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  • CohsaeCohsae Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Canned Heat (the intro at least) is all about the hi-hat, so you're on the off-beat. Tricky to get the timing but so fun once you do. That song is where the difficulty jumps up on Hard. Get through that and you're looking good.

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  • AggroChanAggroChan __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    Apparently I have the Ninja level open as well. "Canned Heat"

    It's even WORSE than "Material Girl". The taps are not on beat, or don't seem like it!!! Arghh..

    Well, in that song you're pretty much making the beat in that particular part. Use headphones if you aren't already.

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  • JurgJurg In a TeacupRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I couldn't beat the last song on the three star difficulty, but I will forever blame this on my stylus.

    My favorite level was the one in which a weather lady promised her son that it would be sunny and that they could go on a picnic. Then, she receives the report that it will rain, but reports it as sunny anyway and uses the power of animals to change the weather.

    Come to think of it, every single level was awesome. Even if the song sucked, the game dragged you into it anyway.

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Jurg wrote: »
    I couldn't beat the last song on the three star difficulty, but I will forever blame this on my stylus.

    My favorite level was the one in which a weather lady promised her son that it would be sunny and that they could go on a picnic. Then, she receives the report that it will rain, but reports it as sunny anyway and uses the power of animals to change the weather.

    Come to think of it, every single level was awesome. Even if the song sucked, the game dragged you into it anyway.

    That's currently my favorite song on Hard. I can A-rank it.

    The only song I will never play unless I have to is the Christmas song. Never again. I was happily going along in the game enjoying all the silly stories and then they through that at me? Evil.

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  • CohsaeCohsae Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Yeah September was awesome, fun and catchy as hell. Still, nothing matches the pure epicness of the buildup to the final song. Once I realised what it was I was like "FUCK YEAH" then about 10 seconds later I failed and had to start again. Still awesome though.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    September's the only song in EBA I really enjoyed playing.

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  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    September's the only song in EBA I really enjoyed playing.

    what

    CJ, you and I agree on many things, but you are so wrong here. So wrong.

    (It's a gas, gas, gas...)

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  • BantryBantry Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Survivor is a terrible song, but an awesome level. I can't remember if I ever got a perfect on 5-star.

    Echoing that anyone who enjoyed EBA will have a blast with Ouendan 1 & 2, although they definitely have a slightly different feel.

    Edit: Also Jumping Jack Flash is NOTHING compaired to the last song in O2. I think Ready Steady Go gave me the least trouble out of the three, although I always though EBA was the easier game (the spiners in the Japenese titles are just terrible). Then again I did paly Ouendan after beating the second one.

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  • YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    oh god Canned Heat is like punishment from God

    but yeah JJF on Sweatin' is pretty goddamn difficult too

    still haven't beaten it

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  • manaleak34manaleak34 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I did enjoy the chirstmas level, but when I first started I was thinking "Damn it I'm going to fail this and feel like such an asshole aren't I?"

    I haven't beat JJF on 2-Star yet myself :|

    It's a fun game but damn is it brutal.

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  • elevatureelevature Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    JJF on Sweatin' is brutal. Took me weeks to beat it, and I almost snapped my stylus from gripping it so hard, but it felt so, so good when I did it.

    Canned Heat is pretty evil too. So is the Let's Dance, I was stuck on that one for a long time.

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  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Bantry wrote: »
    Survivor is a terrible song, but an awesome level. I can't remember if I ever got a perfect on 5-star.

    Echoing that anyone who enjoyed EBA will have a blast with Ouendan 1 & 2, although they definitely have a slightly different feel.

    Edit: Also Jumping Jack Flash is NOTHING compaired to the last song in O2. I think Ready Steady Go gave me the least trouble out of the three, although I always though EBA was the easier game (the spiners in the Japenese titles are just terrible). Then again I did paly Ouendan after beating the second one.

    Sekai wa Sore is excellent, yes. I'm not Sixfortyfive, but I did manage to get -6 away from a full combo on the hardest difficulty with hidden on, so...:P

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    manaleak34 wrote: »
    I did enjoy the chirstmas level, but when I first started I was thinking "Damn it I'm going to fail this and feel like such an asshole aren't I?"

    Oh goddammit, why did you have to mention that level? Now I remembered the really sad part that occurs if you fail the 3rd checkpoint and now I want to kill myself. Fuck. Seriously, never fail the 3rd checkpoint. If it looks like you're going to, turn the system off. It's too depressing.

    Also Canned Heat is an awesome song but it is awful to play in EBA on harder difficulties. I got near perfect scores on like 10 songs in hidden cheergirls mode in Ounedan 2 in less tries than it took me to beat Canned Heat on the last 2 difficulties.

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  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Gilder wrote: »
    Also Canned Heat is an awesome song but it is awful to play in EBA on harder difficulties. I got near perfect scores on like 10 songs in hidden cheergirls mode in Ounedan 2 in less tries than it took me to beat Canned Heat on the last 2 difficulties.

    Wh...what? How did you manage that? :lol:

    Once you get used to the syncopation, I found it came pretty naturally.

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  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Also, I maintain that this is the most entertaining watch ever.

    Final level, in case you don't want to be 'spoiled' somehow.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvLCnKqYWzA

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Gilder wrote: »
    Also Canned Heat is an awesome song but it is awful to play in EBA on harder difficulties. I got near perfect scores on like 10 songs in hidden cheergirls mode in Ounedan 2 in less tries than it took me to beat Canned Heat on the last 2 difficulties.

    Wh...what? How did you manage that? :lol:

    Once you get used to the syncopation, I found it came pretty naturally.

    Because I could never hear the part it wanted me to make so I was always stumbling along to make the beat for the song. I would keep trying to hear the part I was supposed to make but it never clicked for me. Meanwhile hidden mode was just memorization and I'm much better at that.

    Thinking back though I guess hidden mode did take more tries, as I just remembered it took me forever to finish that song with the women chasing after the music idol guy, but it was mostly because I'd screw up near the start and start over. Those attempts were more fun though. Canned Heat was annoying because it was just me failing at random intervals because I couldn't hear the random part of the song I was supposed to hear. I also didn't use headphones.

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  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Gilder wrote: »
    Gilder wrote: »
    Also Canned Heat is an awesome song but it is awful to play in EBA on harder difficulties. I got near perfect scores on like 10 songs in hidden cheergirls mode in Ounedan 2 in less tries than it took me to beat Canned Heat on the last 2 difficulties.

    Wh...what? How did you manage that? :lol:

    Once you get used to the syncopation, I found it came pretty naturally.

    Because I could never hear the part it wanted me to make so I was always stumbling along to make the beat for the song. I would keep trying to hear the part I was supposed to make but it never clicked for me. Meanwhile hidden mode was just memorization and I'm much better at that.

    Thinking back though I guess hidden mode did take more tries, as I just remembered it took me forever to finish that song with the women chasing after the music idol guy, but it was mostly because I'd screw up near the start and start over. Those attempts were more fun though. Canned Heat was annoying because it was just me failing at random intervals because I couldn't hear the random part of the song I was supposed to hear. I also didn't use headphones.

    Can't hear an off beat, can't find a fortress door, what do we keep you around for? :P

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  • Road BlockRoad Block Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I was at a local store today browsing the games. I noticed a little tag reading Ellite Beat Agents $11. I quickly bend down to pick up my bargin priced gem. One frantic search latter I stand mentally swearing my head off. There were no copies left D:

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  • metal_spidermetal_spider Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Gilder wrote: »
    Gilder wrote: »
    Also Canned Heat is an awesome song but it is awful to play in EBA on harder difficulties. I got near perfect scores on like 10 songs in hidden cheergirls mode in Ounedan 2 in less tries than it took me to beat Canned Heat on the last 2 difficulties.

    Wh...what? How did you manage that? :lol:

    Once you get used to the syncopation, I found it came pretty naturally.

    Because I could never hear the part it wanted me to make so I was always stumbling along to make the beat for the song. I would keep trying to hear the part I was supposed to make but it never clicked for me. Meanwhile hidden mode was just memorization and I'm much better at that.

    Thinking back though I guess hidden mode did take more tries, as I just remembered it took me forever to finish that song with the women chasing after the music idol guy, but it was mostly because I'd screw up near the start and start over. Those attempts were more fun though. Canned Heat was annoying because it was just me failing at random intervals because I couldn't hear the random part of the song I was supposed to hear. I also didn't use headphones.

    Can't hear an off beat, can't find a fortress door, what do we keep you around for? :P

    The Let's Play threads, obviously. :P

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Also, I maintain that this is the most entertaining watch ever.

    Final level, in case you don't want to be 'spoiled' somehow.
    FUCKING SPINNERS!!!

    I hate those things so much. :x

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    It should be mentioned that Elite Beat Agents is cheap just about everywhere now. You can get it at Amazon for $6. If you like music games at all and don't get this, you have no soul. This game makes me crack goofy grins like no other.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'm visiting this thread to let you all know that I rocked the pants off EBA on all difficulty modes, including Canned Heat's syncopation parts. Delicious S rank with cheerleaders.

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  • quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Yeah, I spent alot of time trying to S-rank those songs on the hardest difficulties. I know I wasnt the best, but I had scores up there.


    I love the replay feature because I can go back and watch my Jumping Jack Flash S Rank on Expert whenever I want :)

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    WOO!!

    Guess who just beat both "Material Girl" and "Canned Heat" today?! That's right, ME.

    Finally past those two songs. I must just get out of sync or something with the game after a while. Took me 2 tries on Material Girl and 3 on Canned Heat before beating them, where yesterday I spent at least 10 times on Material Girl (and never made it past the second section) and about 5 times on Canned Heat never making it past the first section.

    When do the cheerleaders show up? That's what the original had in it wasn't it? Then they made it men in EBA?

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  • YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    WOO!!

    Guess who just beat both "Material Girl" and "Canned Heat" today?! That's right, ME.

    Finally past those two songs. I must just get out of sync or something with the game after a while. Took me 2 tries on Material Girl and 3 on Canned Heat before beating them, where yesterday I spent at least 10 times on Material Girl (and never made it past the second section) and about 5 times on Canned Heat never making it past the first section.

    When do the cheerleaders show up? That's what the original had in it wasn't it? Then they made it men in EBA?

    incorrect

    the cheerleaders are the hardest difficulty on both games

    the Ouendan guys actually look pretty scary and nazi-ish

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  • solsovlysolsovly Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    EBA was fun, but I did not like the majority of the songs. I really dream of the day they get content on par with Guitar Hero or Rock Band.

    Ouendan was really fun, I probably enjoyed it more because I couldn't understand the lyrics. I'm sure that if I did, I'd probably think half the songs were pretty bad.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Canned Heat is hells of fun once you get it down.

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'll say it again: If you can't enjoy Skater Boi or Believe or whatever else, then you obviously are spending too much time trying to look cool, and not enough time having fun. The song selection was excellent.

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  • CohsaeCohsae Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'll say it again: If you can't enjoy Skater Boi or Believe or whatever else, then you obviously are spending too much time trying to look cool, and not enough time having fun. The song selection was excellent.

    I'm sorry but Sk8er Boi and Believe (and also La La) made me want to cry. God how I loathe them. Most of the other stuff was pretty awesome though.

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against Russian warships) Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I spent a couple hours today trying to beat Jumping Jack Flash with Agent Chieftain (I also went to a halloween party dressed as him, but that's neither here nor there...) and I always fall apart just before the end. Is there a trick to nailing the spinners like they did in the video, because I've never had much luck with them on hard.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Cohsae wrote: »
    I'll say it again: If you can't enjoy Skater Boi or Believe or whatever else, then you obviously are spending too much time trying to look cool, and not enough time having fun. The song selection was excellent.

    I'm sorry but Sk8er Boi and Believe (and also La La) made me want to cry. God how I loathe them. Most of the other stuff was pretty awesome though.

    There is nothing audibly offensive about either tune, in fact they are quite catchy, which is what you need in order to get in the groove with this game. The only thing wrong with them is that they weren't popular with our demographic back in the day, but that is no reason to avoid them like the plague. Music is music, the chords are interesting, the tunes are fine.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I hate most of the songs in EBA, but I think they're fun to play in spite of that.

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  • ArcibiArcibi Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I actually like Without a Fight more than Jumpin' Jack Flash

    Also: I'd kill a man for EBA2

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    EBA has some really bad songs in it. The well made scenarios lessen the sting, but not by much.

    Granted, Ouendan 2's OST isn't very good either, but I had fun with all the songs in Ouendan 1 on some level.


    And there was a rumor a few weeks back that 'Elite Beat Agents 2' was added to a ratings listing somewhere, but don't hold your breath.

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I don't have a problem with canned heat or material girl, I thought they were offbeat as well but after a few tries I picked it up and now they're two of my favourites.

    I wish the hardest mode was the same level of difficulty for all levels, by the time you're at JJF with the Divas the first ~6 levels seem terribly slow.

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