Im actually not a fan of the tank, he ruins the game a lot of the time... there's no suspense or frantic fight, it's just a tank who runs up and rapes everyone, unless you exploit the AI. This seems to be bad design to me as exploiting corners and shit so he gets stuck running or perpetually climbing up a ledge is a little lame.
I'd be all for a chainsaw boss that doesn't get along with other zombies and will in fact kill them while chasing you down. Tanks are just bad form.
The other bosses are all about surprising you or doing something nasty like pulling you into a witch with a smoker. They're thrilling to take down and it stays fast paced. The tank is just all "shit, tank, everyone backpedal and shoot for a while."
Edit: (Or he's all about "okay, jump on and off of that car while everyone shoots at him.") Which is just as meh.
I agree to a point. The only thing I would like to see changed about the tank is how only melee seems to get his attention. Shooting him should be enough and would encourage more teamwork by "kiting" him around.
That would probably be enough, maybe drop his HP or swing radius a little, a lot of the time due to ping he misses me entirely with the rock toss or haymaker and I still end out on my ass.
Im actually not a fan of the tank, he ruins the game a lot of the time... there's no suspense or frantic fight, it's just a tank who runs up and rapes everyone, unless you exploit the AI. This seems to be bad design to me as exploiting corners and shit so he gets stuck running or perpetually climbing up a ledge is a little lame.
I'd be all for a chainsaw boss that doesn't get along with other zombies and will in fact kill them while chasing you down. Tanks are just bad form.
The other bosses are all about surprising you or doing something nasty like pulling you into a witch with a smoker. They're thrilling to take down and it stays fast paced. The tank is just all "shit, tank, everyone backpedal and shoot for a while."
Edit: (Or he's all about "okay, jump on and off of that car while everyone shoots at him.") Which is just as meh.
I agree to a point. The only thing I would like to see changed about the tank is how only melee seems to get his attention. Shooting him should be enough and would encourage more teamwork by "kiting" him around.
That's a thing many people don't seem to know. Melee can make him switch his aggro. Fighting the tank is about working as a team to confuse him and to never let him fully rape a person.
Im actually not a fan of the tank, he ruins the game a lot of the time... there's no suspense or frantic fight, it's just a tank who runs up and rapes everyone, unless you exploit the AI. This seems to be bad design to me as exploiting corners and shit so he gets stuck running or perpetually climbing up a ledge is a little lame.
I'd be all for a chainsaw boss that doesn't get along with other zombies and will in fact kill them while chasing you down. Tanks are just bad form.
The other bosses are all about surprising you or doing something nasty like pulling you into a witch with a smoker. They're thrilling to take down and it stays fast paced. The tank is just all "shit, tank, everyone backpedal and shoot for a while."
Edit: (Or he's all about "okay, jump on and off of that car while everyone shoots at him.") Which is just as meh.
I agree to a point. The only thing I would like to see changed about the tank is how only melee seems to get his attention. Shooting him should be enough and would encourage more teamwork by "kiting" him around.
You can do that. You just need to be closer to him when you shoot than how close he is to the person he is after, which can can be tricky.
Easiest way to take him out is to stay close and constantly be firing. When he downs someone, and he will, everyone needs to RUN RIGHT UP IN HIS FACE AND UNLOAD ALL THEY GOT. You do more damage the closer you are to enemies. He'll drop decently fast like this.
Im actually not a fan of the tank, he ruins the game a lot of the time... there's no suspense or frantic fight, it's just a tank who runs up and rapes everyone, unless you exploit the AI. This seems to be bad design to me as exploiting corners and shit so he gets stuck running or perpetually climbing up a ledge is a little lame.
I'd be all for a chainsaw boss that doesn't get along with other zombies and will in fact kill them while chasing you down. Tanks are just bad form.
The other bosses are all about surprising you or doing something nasty like pulling you into a witch with a smoker. They're thrilling to take down and it stays fast paced. The tank is just all "shit, tank, everyone backpedal and shoot for a while."
Edit: (Or he's all about "okay, jump on and off of that car while everyone shoots at him.") Which is just as meh.
I agree to a point. The only thing I would like to see changed about the tank is how only melee seems to get his attention. Shooting him should be enough and would encourage more teamwork by "kiting" him around.
You can do that. You just need to be closer to him when you shoot than how close he is to the person he is after, which can can be tricky.
Easiest way to take him out is to stay close and constantly be firing. When he downs someone, and he will, everyone needs to RUN RIGHT UP IN HIS FACE AND UNLOAD ALL THEY GOT. You do more damage the closer you are to enemies. He'll drop decently fast like this.
Yeah, that's fine and all but it's not fun.
When I get snagged by a hunter or smoker I say something like "crap help!" on the mic.
When I get downed by a Tank I just sigh. It's not exciting or fun, it's like losing the lottery, you already expect it and you know it wont be good.
Im actually not a fan of the tank, he ruins the game a lot of the time... there's no suspense or frantic fight, it's just a tank who runs up and rapes everyone, unless you exploit the AI. This seems to be bad design to me as exploiting corners and shit so he gets stuck running or perpetually climbing up a ledge is a little lame.
I'd be all for a chainsaw boss that doesn't get along with other zombies and will in fact kill them while chasing you down. Tanks are just bad form.
The other bosses are all about surprising you or doing something nasty like pulling you into a witch with a smoker. They're thrilling to take down and it stays fast paced. The tank is just all "shit, tank, everyone backpedal and shoot for a while."
Edit: (Or he's all about "okay, jump on and off of that car while everyone shoots at him.") Which is just as meh.
I agree to a point. The only thing I would like to see changed about the tank is how only melee seems to get his attention. Shooting him should be enough and would encourage more teamwork by "kiting" him around.
You can do that. You just need to be closer to him when you shoot than how close he is to the person he is after, which can can be tricky.
Easiest way to take him out is to stay close and constantly be firing. When he downs someone, and he will, everyone needs to RUN RIGHT UP IN HIS FACE AND UNLOAD ALL THEY GOT. You do more damage the closer you are to enemies. He'll drop decently fast like this.
Yeah, that's fine and all but it's not fun.
When I get snagged by a hunter or smoker I say something like "crap help!" on the mic.
When I get downed by a Tank I just sigh. It's not exciting or fun, it's like losing the lottery, you already expect it and you know it wont be good.
When you get downed by the tank, you know you die. So I'm with you there.
But, you can only hope that in the full release that the guys playing the tank have no idea what they're doing and let you slip by.
Im actually not a fan of the tank, he ruins the game a lot of the time... there's no suspense or frantic fight, it's just a tank who runs up and rapes everyone, unless you exploit the AI. This seems to be bad design to me as exploiting corners and shit so he gets stuck running or perpetually climbing up a ledge is a little lame.
I'd be all for a chainsaw boss that doesn't get along with other zombies and will in fact kill them while chasing you down. Tanks are just bad form.
The other bosses are all about surprising you or doing something nasty like pulling you into a witch with a smoker. They're thrilling to take down and it stays fast paced. The tank is just all "shit, tank, everyone backpedal and shoot for a while."
Edit: (Or he's all about "okay, jump on and off of that car while everyone shoots at him.") Which is just as meh.
I agree to a point. The only thing I would like to see changed about the tank is how only melee seems to get his attention. Shooting him should be enough and would encourage more teamwork by "kiting" him around.
You can do that. You just need to be closer to him when you shoot than how close he is to the person he is after, which can can be tricky.
Easiest way to take him out is to stay close and constantly be firing. When he downs someone, and he will, everyone needs to RUN RIGHT UP IN HIS FACE AND UNLOAD ALL THEY GOT. You do more damage the closer you are to enemies. He'll drop decently fast like this.
Yeah, that's fine and all but it's not fun.
When I get snagged by a hunter or smoker I say something like "crap help!" on the mic.
When I get downed by a Tank I just sigh. It's not exciting or fun, it's like losing the lottery, you already expect it and you know it wont be good.
When you get downed by the tank, you know you die. So I'm with you there.
But, you can only hope that in the full release that the guys playing the tank have no idea what they're doing and let you slip by.
Well, you can hope they vastly reduce tank hp and attack speed because as it is right now I've played on some servers with one of the survivors somehow switching teams and rushing us as a tank, and it's basically game over instantly because without retarded AI to exploit they win every time.
Edit: and in expert it is a kill. All it takes is two bonks and you die, no knock down waiting to get up, you are dead.
I've killed a Tank before he's had the chance to kill a downed person.
I've also seen someone run up to a Tank and divert his attention away from a downed person. It's not a guranteed kill.
I guess you havent played public servers much.
This game is so not about playing on Public servers. It's about playing with a group of people who aren't asshats. So no I don't, I play with PA people.
If you play with people who know what the hell they're doing, tanks are actually very killable.
That doesn't make the encounter fun. They ruin the pacing. I'd rather face any three other bosses combined with a horde because it's interesting. Tanks are just boring. Killable or not.
Whatever, I like fighting Tanks. You hear his angry grunts and you're like "oh shit Tank", and then the music kicks in and you hear the giant thuds and everyone's freaked out and it's awesome.
Whatever, I like fighting Tanks. You hear his angry grunts and you're like "oh shit Tank", and then the music kicks in and you hear the giant thuds and everyone's freaked out and it's awesome.
That's the thing, I never see anyone "freak out" over a tank. They all just get irritated that it's in the way of an otherwise fun run.
Edit: Just different strokes, there's plenty to be happy with in the game and it's only a minor gripe, so if they don't change it I wont cancel my already-purchased pre-order or something.
Sorry dispatch but I don't agree with you at all and personally find your opinions to be butt.
Agreed. Tanks don't frustrate me, and I don't think anyone I've played with was "annoyed" at the tanks. We are freaking out exactly because tanks often will rape us.
The pre-pay can be gifted, correct? I have a friend wanting to get it, but only has the means to do so by cash, and we'd like to play tonight. Is this a possibility?
how big is the pc demo download? I want to play like a mother but my (college) connection goes between 20 kb/s and 400 kb/s depending on the time of day.
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We just had a great game on expert where we heard the tank music start, and started freaking out. "OH SHIT HERE IT COMES" Etc.
The music suddenly just stops, and we have no clue what happened...
We found out later that it simply fell under the subway train. And just died.
So great.
That same game, I simply killed the witch with the minigun. She staggered through the right window, so I thought I was fucked. Fortunately, her death animation is just long.
how big is the pc demo download? I want to play like a mother but my (college) connection goes between 20 kb/s and 400 kb/s depending on the time of day.
how big is the pc demo download? I want to play like a mother but my (college) connection goes between 20 kb/s and 400 kb/s depending on the time of day.
We just had a great game on expert where we heard the tank music start, and started freaking out. "OH SHIT HERE IT COMES" Etc.
The music suddenly just stops, and we have no clue what happened...
We found out later that it simply fell under the subway train. And just died.
So great.
That same game, I simply killed the witch with the minigun. She staggered through the right window, so I thought I was fucked. Fortunately, her death animation is just long.
Apparently I am very good at shotgunning my teamates in the face.
EDIT: also that moltoving tanks just annoys them, making you fight a FLAMING tank.
That's a hunter beating me down, I tried to get a shot of the flaming tank but he killed me to fast.
If you squint though I think thats him next to the left train carriage
Note to self:
Hitsu is so out to get me! I know that crazy Crocodile Dundee hating Wallaby has it in for me, however he’s always hiding behind that 'nice guy' disguise...but I’m not falling for it. Be sure I always watch his back instead of the other way around so I can keep an eye on him. He's probably up something even as I speak.
Note to self:
Think Dr.Oblivious may be on to my attempts to kill him, need to work on better methods of subterfuge for future attempts, possibly regale him with stories of Kangaroos and wombats (maybe even dingoes).
Also attempt to have Phoenix_Decoy (That's what the D really stands for) along to further remove suspicion
Pre-order got you early access to the demo on the 6th. However, the demo will go public this tuesday Nov 11th but will end as soon as the game is released.
You should be able to change the orientation of the split-screen on the 360. It was stated in the previews you could choose which way to slice it and people got it working both ways on the PC version through some console/config trickery.
So, the news that the Reputation/Demerit system got axed has guarenteed that I will never, ever play this game with pubbies. Too many people out there think TK'ing is the height of comedy.
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That would probably be enough, maybe drop his HP or swing radius a little, a lot of the time due to ping he misses me entirely with the rock toss or haymaker and I still end out on my ass.
That's a thing many people don't seem to know. Melee can make him switch his aggro. Fighting the tank is about working as a team to confuse him and to never let him fully rape a person.
You can do that. You just need to be closer to him when you shoot than how close he is to the person he is after, which can can be tricky.
Easiest way to take him out is to stay close and constantly be firing. When he downs someone, and he will, everyone needs to RUN RIGHT UP IN HIS FACE AND UNLOAD ALL THEY GOT. You do more damage the closer you are to enemies. He'll drop decently fast like this.
Yeah, that's fine and all but it's not fun.
When I get snagged by a hunter or smoker I say something like "crap help!" on the mic.
When I get downed by a Tank I just sigh. It's not exciting or fun, it's like losing the lottery, you already expect it and you know it wont be good.
When you get downed by the tank, you know you die. So I'm with you there.
But, you can only hope that in the full release that the guys playing the tank have no idea what they're doing and let you slip by.
I've also seen someone run up to a Tank and divert his attention away from a downed person. It's not a guranteed kill.
Well, you can hope they vastly reduce tank hp and attack speed because as it is right now I've played on some servers with one of the survivors somehow switching teams and rushing us as a tank, and it's basically game over instantly because without retarded AI to exploit they win every time.
Edit: and in expert it is a kill. All it takes is two bonks and you die, no knock down waiting to get up, you are dead.
I guess you havent played public servers much.
This game is so not about playing on Public servers. It's about playing with a group of people who aren't asshats. So no I don't, I play with PA people.
That doesn't make the encounter fun. They ruin the pacing. I'd rather face any three other bosses combined with a horde because it's interesting. Tanks are just boring. Killable or not.
That's the thing, I never see anyone "freak out" over a tank. They all just get irritated that it's in the way of an otherwise fun run.
Edit: Just different strokes, there's plenty to be happy with in the game and it's only a minor gripe, so if they don't change it I wont cancel my already-purchased pre-order or something.
Agreed. Tanks don't frustrate me, and I don't think anyone I've played with was "annoyed" at the tanks. We are freaking out exactly because tanks often will rape us.
The music suddenly just stops, and we have no clue what happened...
We found out later that it simply fell under the subway train. And just died.
So great.
About 3gb
3200 MB I think. Which is about 3 GB.
Beaten by Hitsu.
I was at 10 temp health, so I sacrificed myself and started shooting at her from the window.
Three autoshotty rounds and she dropped like a sack of hammers. Huh.
EDIT: also that moltoving tanks just annoys them, making you fight a FLAMING tank.
Yes, that was awesome.
Anyone mind inviting me to the steam group?
http://steamcommunity.com/id/nekose
That's a hunter beating me down, I tried to get a shot of the flaming tank but he killed me to fast.
If you squint though I think thats him next to the left train carriage
Wrong wrong wrong.
Hitsu is so out to get me! I know that crazy Crocodile Dundee hating Wallaby has it in for me, however he’s always hiding behind that 'nice guy' disguise...but I’m not falling for it. Be sure I always watch his back instead of the other way around so I can keep an eye on him. He's probably up something even as I speak.
Steam Name: Dr.Oblivious
If you can't live for the now, at least live for the future.
Think Dr.Oblivious may be on to my attempts to kill him, need to work on better methods of subterfuge for future attempts, possibly regale him with stories of Kangaroos and wombats (maybe even dingoes).
Also attempt to have Phoenix_Decoy (That's what the D really stands for) along to further remove suspicion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTvqkzLXcJY
Oh fuck yes.
PSN:Hakira__
Good god, this map would brilliant for L4D.
PSN:Hakira__
I wish there was away to change the orientation of the split screen though, I much prefer top and bottom than left and right.
If you pray hard enough to Raptor Jesus your wishes will come true.
You should be able to change the orientation of the split-screen on the 360. It was stated in the previews you could choose which way to slice it and people got it working both ways on the PC version through some console/config trickery.
Finally got a chance to sit down and play the demo. Two hours of my life vanished before I knew it.
Everything about the game is just brilliant.
Nov 11. The day the COD 5 beta dies.
Thanks Tertiee.