Remind me also to never install QuestHelper. Pugged the Wanton Warlord questline yesterday and both of my allies were using QH and that danged thing diminishes WOW's fun factor by 75%.
Kill three magnataur mini-bosses ? No problem. Beeline to spot A, kill one. Gallop to spot B, kill another. Spot C likwise. Now kill the Warlord boss ? Don't we need to find him first ? No way, noob, QH takes us right to him, Bam ! questline over in 5 minutes flat.
Woo Hoo. What fun. Now, I was just as annoyed as the next person when trying to find Manrik's wife or those animal bosses in STV for the first time, but what the heck, much of the game's atmosphere comes from exploring a zone to find quest targets and stumbling onto neat little details of terrain or character. Besides, that's how you find your mineral and herb veins. If you're running QH you might as well run a quest-bot, too, it makes things so easy.
I never run those things or reaed the guide when I do the zone the first time. Leveling guides are for getting your alts through boring ass content you've already done 5 times.
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HalfmexI mock your value systemYou also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered Userregular
They said they were aiming for the first content patch of wrath
Yep, patch 3.1 which is the "Ulduar" patch.
Interestingly, that's apparently NOT going to be the first post-WotLK patch. I guess there's another tweak/bugfix/etc. patch coming between now and 3.1, so who knows how long it'll be before we see dual specs.
Remind me also to never install QuestHelper. Pugged the Wanton Warlord questline yesterday and both of my allies were using QH and that danged thing diminishes WOW's fun factor by 75%.
Kill three magnataur mini-bosses ? No problem. Beeline to spot A, kill one. Gallop to spot B, kill another. Spot C likwise. Now kill the Warlord boss ? Don't we need to find him first ? No way, noob, QH takes us right to him, Bam ! questline over in 5 minutes flat.
Woo Hoo. What fun. Now, I was just as annoyed as the next person when trying to find Manrik's wife or those animal bosses in STV for the first time, but what the heck, much of the game's atmosphere comes from exploring a zone to find quest targets and stumbling onto neat little details of terrain or character. Besides, that's how you find your mineral and herb veins. If you're running QH you might as well run a quest-bot, too, it makes things so easy.
I have LightHeaded and TomTom installed, but I always try to get through the quest with just the quest dialogue at first. With some quests though, either the quest text is poorly written ("Go west" doesn't help me; "West" is a fucking huge span of land, give me some landmarks or something, like "Go west until you hit the waterfall") or the mob/quest item is in some obscure place that you wouldn't think to look.
For those times, I'm glad I have LH and TT.
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FairchildRabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?"Registered Userregular
edited November 2008
The Big Content patch will kick off the next Arena season, I'm guessing ? Any ideas how that will work ? Will a new set of Level 80 PVP gear become available for tokens and points, or will they toss Vengeful to the masses ?
Eh, that's the way it usually runs. Big content patches every few months with tweaker patches in between.
Oh yeah, I'm still guessing end of first quarter for 3.1 or thereabouts. I've got plenty to do between now and then. I was just surprised that they were patching again before then.
Remind me also to never install QuestHelper. Pugged the Wanton Warlord questline yesterday and both of my allies were using QH and that danged thing diminishes WOW's fun factor by 75%.
Kill three magnataur mini-bosses ? No problem. Beeline to spot A, kill one. Gallop to spot B, kill another. Spot C likwise. Now kill the Warlord boss ? Don't we need to find him first ? No way, noob, QH takes us right to him, Bam ! questline over in 5 minutes flat.
Woo Hoo. What fun. Now, I was just as annoyed as the next person when trying to find Manrik's wife or those animal bosses in STV for the first time, but what the heck, much of the game's atmosphere comes from exploring a zone to find quest targets and stumbling onto neat little details of terrain or character. Besides, that's how you find your mineral and herb veins. If you're running QH you might as well run a quest-bot, too, it makes things so easy.
I have LightHeaded and TomTom installed, but I always try to get through the quest with just the quest dialogue at first. With some quests though, either the quest text is poorly written ("Go west" doesn't help me; "West" is a fucking huge span of land, give me some landmarks or something, like "Go west until you hit the waterfall") or the mob/quest item is in some obscure place that you wouldn't think to look.
For those times, I'm glad I have LH and TT.
I like questhelper because it makes questing much more efficent. I can pick up all the quests in a questhub and then look at the map to plan my route instead of me trying to remember where everything I need to get is and having to read quests 3-4 times each (I have a terrible memory so while I could plan a route and then write it all down with just the quest text, this would take far longer than just glancing at the map).
I wish they'd drop the price for epic flyer a bit, since I'm broke.
Some day one of my characters will get an epic flyer
Maybe I should make my dk a gatherer and get him the epic first so he can mine and herb up epic flying for my spriest and rogue with on a pale horse.
Edit: I also don't understand how everyone seems to think that wow throws money at you in mass quanity. Between lvling tailoring/enchanting and training on my spriest(just dinged 79) I am only at 1300 starting wotlk with 900 and buying the cold flight. While I'm sure if I do every quest at 80 I should get there or close its still not like 5k is simple to get with out alot of daily questing that I frankly couldn't force my self thru in tbc.
I used questhelper from about 74 on, and I enjoyed leveling just fine.
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FairchildRabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?"Registered Userregular
edited November 2008
Ugh. Took me 6 days to farm up my DK to 300 Mining/Blacksmithing. Never again as God is my witness will I ride in circles around Arathi or Hinterlands !
what the hell do you people spend your gold on I honestly dont understabd
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HalfmexI mock your value systemYou also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered Userregular
edited November 2008
Also, is it me or was socketed gear really sparse in this expansion? I can count all of the socketed quest rewards I got on one hand, ditto instance drops. I thought that was the "new direction" the devs wanted to go in lieu of spending a bunch of the item stat budget on potentially undesireable stats (coughHasteArmorPenetrationcough).
Well I made it a month until this fucking kidney stone drove me back to WoW. I had resisted the temptation of the new expansion fairly well, but I feel like there's an angry badger in my abdomen and I needed a mindless distraction that was semi-engaging.
Unfortunately I didn't see this slow ass/long ass download/install coming. Sketchy as hell, too. Ranges from full blast 700KB/s to stalling for minutes at a time downloading nothing.
edit.. are there a shit ton of DK mains around? Towards the end there I was somewhat burned out on WoW, I'd like to roll hard on a new class just to have a change of pace. But my main for a long time was a rogue and fuck being the overpopulated, "LFM no more <class>" class again. If that's the case I'll have to decide between my prot war or boomkin.
Prot war is pretty damn invincible right now
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FairchildRabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?"Registered Userregular
Some day one of my characters will get an epic flyer
Maybe I should make my dk a gatherer and get him the epic first so he can mine and herb up epic flying for my spriest and rogue with on a pale horse.
Edit: I also don't understand how everyone seems to think that wow throws money at you in mass quanity. Between lvling tailoring/enchanting and training on my spriest(just dinged 79) I am only at 1300 starting wotlk with 900 and buying the cold flight. While I'm sure if I do every quest at 80 I should get there or close its still not like 5k is simple to get with out alot of daily questing that I frankly couldn't force my self thru in tbc.
The 5K for epic flight is almost impossible to get if you aren't willing to run the dailies. Sorry to say it, but that's the hard truth. Your only other path would be to go into one of the more profitable professions- like Alchemy, say- and sell the rarer items on the AH.
edit.. are there a shit ton of DK mains around? Towards the end there I was somewhat burned out on WoW, I'd like to roll hard on a new class just to have a change of pace. But my main for a long time was a rogue and fuck being the overpopulated, "LFM no more <class>" class again. If that's the case I'll have to decide between my prot war or boomkin.
We only have two guys that switched mains to DKs, at least for the raiding crew. I think a lot of people didn't want to do the whole "hey, brand new continent, let's level through Outland instead" part right away.
what the hell do you people spend your gold on I honestly dont understabd
I'm currently only spending my money on skill ups and training spells but just questing I really don't make much. I shard and use all of the rewards I don't use so I effectively only get the gold from the quest. Granted I can make some of this money back from enchant tips once I get the skill up. I am sitting on 44 dream shards @410 enchanting tho.... Damn them making them currency for patterns.
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The 5K for epic flight is almost impossible to get if you aren't willing to run the dailies. Sorry to say it, but that's the hard truth. Your only other path would be to go into one of the more profitable professions- like Alchemy, say- and sell the rarer items on the AH.
My issue with that in TBC was everytime I started to get my gold stock up pretty high is about the time I would run low on my potion/flasks or get like 3 pieces of new gear and need gems/enchant mats or random other things. Either way this isn't something I have issue with just in WoW I am not great at saving money irl either lol.
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HalfmexI mock your value systemYou also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered Userregular
Edit: I also don't understand how everyone seems to think that wow throws money at you in mass quanity. Between lvling tailoring/enchanting and training on my spriest(just dinged 79) I am only at 1300 starting wotlk with 900 and buying the cold flight. While I'm sure if I do every quest at 80 I should get there or close its still not like 5k is simple to get with out alot of daily questing that I frankly couldn't force my self thru in tbc.
There's the issue.
The people with money coming out their ears have at least one character with a gathering profession. I used to have money issues too until I leveled herb and mining on my characters. Hell, just this weekend alone I made easily 500g on herbs, and that was just with herbs I found while leveling on a land mount; I wasn't even farming for 'em.
Leveling Enchanting could be incredibly expensive right now if you don't disenchant literally everything you come across, and even then it's slow going. I haven't even touched Tailoring yet, thankfully.
Remind me also to never install QuestHelper. Pugged the Wanton Warlord questline yesterday and both of my allies were using QH and that danged thing diminishes WOW's fun factor by 75%.
Kill three magnataur mini-bosses ? No problem. Beeline to spot A, kill one. Gallop to spot B, kill another. Spot C likwise. Now kill the Warlord boss ? Don't we need to find him first ? No way, noob, QH takes us right to him, Bam ! questline over in 5 minutes flat.
Woo Hoo. What fun. Now, I was just as annoyed as the next person when trying to find Manrik's wife or those animal bosses in STV for the first time, but what the heck, much of the game's atmosphere comes from exploring a zone to find quest targets and stumbling onto neat little details of terrain or character. Besides, that's how you find your mineral and herb veins. If you're running QH you might as well run a quest-bot, too, it makes things so easy.
I have LightHeaded and TomTom installed, but I always try to get through the quest with just the quest dialogue at first. With some quests though, either the quest text is poorly written ("Go west" doesn't help me; "West" is a fucking huge span of land, give me some landmarks or something, like "Go west until you hit the waterfall") or the mob/quest item is in some obscure place that you wouldn't think to look.
For those times, I'm glad I have LH and TT.
I like questhelper because it makes questing much more efficent. I can pick up all the quests in a questhub and then look at the map to plan my route instead of me trying to remember where everything I need to get is and having to read quests 3-4 times each (I have a terrible memory so while I could plan a route and then write it all down with just the quest text, this would take far longer than just glancing at the map).
I like Quest Helper because, truth be told, 99% of those quests are dumb and aren't worth reading. Like, oh dear, your land is being pillaged.
I don't care.
But that's a mighty fine vest you've got there.
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Edit: I also don't understand how everyone seems to think that wow throws money at you in mass quanity. Between lvling tailoring/enchanting and training on my spriest(just dinged 79) I am only at 1300 starting wotlk with 900 and buying the cold flight. While I'm sure if I do every quest at 80 I should get there or close its still not like 5k is simple to get with out alot of daily questing that I frankly couldn't force my self thru in tbc.
There's the issue.
The people with money coming out their ears have at least one character with a gathering profession. I used to have money issues too until I leveled herb and mining on my characters. Hell, just this weekend alone I made easily 500g on herbs, and that was just with herbs I found while leveling on a land mount; I wasn't even farming for 'em.
Leveling Enchanting could be incredibly expensive right now if you don't disenchant literally everything you come across, and even then it's slow going. I haven't even touched Tailoring yet, thankfully.
It's even expensive if you do disenchant literally everything you come across. Just because you're not vendoring that green trash loot that you find. That's a lot of lost golds.
HalfmexI mock your value systemYou also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered Userregular
edited November 2008
The market's being pretty odd, though. Crystallized (element) and their primal equivalents are really not selling for much at all. I suppose that's because so many people are leveling and coming across them, but it seems like they drop quite a bit more frequently than the motes ever did in TBC.
Also, I LOVE the vellums and being able to sell my enchants. Sold two Greater Savagerys this weekend for 150g each, and got the skillups from both.
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HalfmexI mock your value systemYou also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered Userregular
It's even expensive if you do disenchant literally everything you come across. Just because you're not vendoring that green trash loot that you find. That's a lot of lost golds.
True enough. I suppose it's money "spent" either way, either by buying the enchanting mats or not selling the green quest items/drops you get. I d/e'd a couple of green staves this weekend that would have vendored for 15g each. One only gave me one Infinite Dust I chose poorly.
Yea I need to get my guild inscripter to send me the paper to put enchants on because I often just free enchant people in group or re-enchant gear for skill ups and the paper is out of control on my server on the ah.
The quests in Northrend were suprisingly descriptive. I had very little problems reading the quest and figuring out what to do. Hell, the quest that the person was complaining about earlier (the kill 3 magnataur and then the other guy) I did in exactly the same way just by reading the quest text.
edit: I also made a lot of money selling herbs instead of leveling alchemy. I sold 4 stacks of lichbloom for 130g, 180g, 180g, and 190g. People are dumb. I can farm that in like 30 minutes.
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HalfmexI mock your value systemYou also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered Userregular
The quests in Northrend were suprisingly descriptive. I had very little problems reading the quest and figuring out what to do. Hell, the quest that the person was complaining about earlier (the kill 3 magnataur and then the other guy) I did in exactly the same way just by reading the quest text.
I don't think he was complaining about it, he was just stating that he wished he hadn't made it trivial by using QuestHelper instead of just reading the quest dialogue. I may have misinterpreted his post, but that's what I got out of it anyway.
And I agree, largely, that the quests are better written this time around, but there's still a lot of "go East" or "head towards the coast" and that's just annoying when you have to dodge mobs on foot. They're not all that way mind you, just the ones that are tend to be annoying.
The quests in Northrend were suprisingly descriptive. I had very little problems reading the quest and figuring out what to do. Hell, the quest that the person was complaining about earlier (the kill 3 magnataur and then the other guy) I did in exactly the same way just by reading the quest text.
I don't think he was complaining about it, he was just stating that he wished he hadn't made it trivial by using QuestHelper instead of just reading the quest dialogue. I may have misinterpreted his post, but that's what I got out of it anyway.
And I agree, largely, that the quests are better written this time around, but there's still a lot of "go East" or "head towards the coast" and that's just annoying when you have to dodge mobs on foot. They're not all that way mind you, just the ones that are tend to be annoying.
The only questing thing that WotLK does that can be kind of annoying are the quest lines where there will be a single quest giver who will give you a single quest a 5 minute run (total) south of you that takes 20 seconds when you get there. When you return the quest the quest giver will give you a follow up quest in the same place. Then she'll do it 3-4 more times so that one quest line has 20 minutes of travel time. I'm sure this happened in vanilla and tbc, but I seem to notice it a lot in WotLK.
The only questing thing that WotLK does that can be kind of annoying are the quest lines where there will be a single quest giver who will give you a single quest a 5 minute run (total) south of you that takes 20 seconds when you get there. When you return the quest the quest giver will give you a follow up quest in the same place. Then she'll do it 3-4 more times so that one quest line has 20 minutes of travel time. I'm sure this happened in vanilla and tbc, but I seem to notice it a lot in WotLK.
That too.
New Hearthglen
was a HUGE offender in that category. People in Venomblight sent me there way too many times.
Yeah but you still have 2-3 quests to do at a time in New Hearthglen which was cool. Each time you'd run back you'd get 3 more in the same place
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edited November 2008
Yesterday I realized I had never done the fishing tournament in STV. My priest is at level 76, and I thought I'd been levelling up too fast, so I decided to take a break and work on fishing.
My fishing skill was somewhere around the 200s.
I went to Booty Bay and started fishing to level up my skill until the tourny began. Unfortunately, I didn't win, (had a Horde warrior running around harrassing all the Alliance fishers) but it was even more motivation to keep fishing.
I continued to level up fishing for most of the rest of the day, with a little bit of questing in Grizzly Hills. Then I remembered that there were fishing dailies in Outland, so I checked that out and ended up getting the ability to track fish. I'd say my fishing skill was around 367 by the time I went to sleep. I was fishing up coins from the Dalaran fountain by the end of the night.
I don't ever want to level up fishing on another character again.
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Are there any Alliance quests for New Hearthglen besides killing Abbendis there?
edit: And seriously? New Hearthglen? It was like 50 steps from Venomspite. No offense, but people will complain about anything apparently. Complain about the Ley Lines quests if you want something shitty to complain about.
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I never run those things or reaed the guide when I do the zone the first time. Leveling guides are for getting your alts through boring ass content you've already done 5 times.
Interestingly, that's apparently NOT going to be the first post-WotLK patch. I guess there's another tweak/bugfix/etc. patch coming between now and 3.1, so who knows how long it'll be before we see dual specs.
For those times, I'm glad I have LH and TT.
I like questhelper because it makes questing much more efficent. I can pick up all the quests in a questhub and then look at the map to plan my route instead of me trying to remember where everything I need to get is and having to read quests 3-4 times each (I have a terrible memory so while I could plan a route and then write it all down with just the quest text, this would take far longer than just glancing at the map).
B.net: Kusanku
Some day one of my characters will get an epic flyer
Maybe I should make my dk a gatherer and get him the epic first so he can mine and herb up epic flying for my spriest and rogue with on a pale horse.
Edit: I also don't understand how everyone seems to think that wow throws money at you in mass quanity. Between lvling tailoring/enchanting and training on my spriest(just dinged 79) I am only at 1300 starting wotlk with 900 and buying the cold flight. While I'm sure if I do every quest at 80 I should get there or close its still not like 5k is simple to get with out alot of daily questing that I frankly couldn't force my self thru in tbc.
I'm dead serious."
We only have two guys that switched mains to DKs, at least for the raiding crew. I think a lot of people didn't want to do the whole "hey, brand new continent, let's level through Outland instead" part right away.
I'm currently only spending my money on skill ups and training spells but just questing I really don't make much. I shard and use all of the rewards I don't use so I effectively only get the gold from the quest. Granted I can make some of this money back from enchant tips once I get the skill up. I am sitting on 44 dream shards @410 enchanting tho.... Damn them making them currency for patterns.
edit: My issue with that in TBC was everytime I started to get my gold stock up pretty high is about the time I would run low on my potion/flasks or get like 3 pieces of new gear and need gems/enchant mats or random other things. Either way this isn't something I have issue with just in WoW I am not great at saving money irl either lol.
The people with money coming out their ears have at least one character with a gathering profession. I used to have money issues too until I leveled herb and mining on my characters. Hell, just this weekend alone I made easily 500g on herbs, and that was just with herbs I found while leveling on a land mount; I wasn't even farming for 'em.
Leveling Enchanting could be incredibly expensive right now if you don't disenchant literally everything you come across, and even then it's slow going. I haven't even touched Tailoring yet, thankfully.
I'm mining/JC and I've made over 2k gold since the xp hit and I'm not even 77 yet.
I've got two miners, my hunter and my warrior, and I plan to take full advantage of this.
I like Quest Helper because, truth be told, 99% of those quests are dumb and aren't worth reading. Like, oh dear, your land is being pillaged.
I don't care.
But that's a mighty fine vest you've got there.
It's even expensive if you do disenchant literally everything you come across. Just because you're not vendoring that green trash loot that you find. That's a lot of lost golds.
Also, I LOVE the vellums and being able to sell my enchants. Sold two Greater Savagerys this weekend for 150g each, and got the skillups from both.
B.net: Kusanku
edit: I also made a lot of money selling herbs instead of leveling alchemy. I sold 4 stacks of lichbloom for 130g, 180g, 180g, and 190g. People are dumb. I can farm that in like 30 minutes.
And I agree, largely, that the quests are better written this time around, but there's still a lot of "go East" or "head towards the coast" and that's just annoying when you have to dodge mobs on foot. They're not all that way mind you, just the ones that are tend to be annoying.
The only questing thing that WotLK does that can be kind of annoying are the quest lines where there will be a single quest giver who will give you a single quest a 5 minute run (total) south of you that takes 20 seconds when you get there. When you return the quest the quest giver will give you a follow up quest in the same place. Then she'll do it 3-4 more times so that one quest line has 20 minutes of travel time. I'm sure this happened in vanilla and tbc, but I seem to notice it a lot in WotLK.
was a HUGE offender in that category. People in Venomblight sent me there way too many times.
B.net: Kusanku
My fishing skill was somewhere around the 200s.
I went to Booty Bay and started fishing to level up my skill until the tourny began. Unfortunately, I didn't win, (had a Horde warrior running around harrassing all the Alliance fishers) but it was even more motivation to keep fishing.
I continued to level up fishing for most of the rest of the day, with a little bit of questing in Grizzly Hills. Then I remembered that there were fishing dailies in Outland, so I checked that out and ended up getting the ability to track fish. I'd say my fishing skill was around 367 by the time I went to sleep. I was fishing up coins from the Dalaran fountain by the end of the night.
I don't ever want to level up fishing on another character again.
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edit: And seriously? New Hearthglen? It was like 50 steps from Venomspite. No offense, but people will complain about anything apparently. Complain about the Ley Lines quests if you want something shitty to complain about.