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Well the first four parts of it are fucking pointless but I guess the space stage is pretty neat. I've been playing about an hour an tooling about doing stuff, but my abilities at having fun are tampered by my lack of money. It seems like everyone expects me to have more money than I do, what am I doing wrong? My only source of income seems to be collecting the spice and selling it, but it makes fuck all. Do I have to grind the shitty missions to make enough money to terraform things? Does that just get me more useless spice?
Different color spices sell for different amounts. Some inhabited planets will also buy certain spices for more than normal. All planets will pay shit for spice of hte color they already produce. Because of this, you should concentrate on getting a few planets with pink or purple spice, get them up to decent production levels, and then start selling the shit to planets that will pay high prices. Most other types of spices are useless. You can reinvest the profits to terraform the planets more. In order to get enough money to terraform a fucking shithole with purple or pink spice, you will probably have to grind money to either buy terraforming tools. You eventually get tools that aren't used up and just use energy.
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Blue and green spice can also sell for a decent amount. Red and yellow is basically worthless.
Also, you can make money by attacking people and destroying their cities.
Well the first four parts of it are fucking pointless but I guess the space stage is pretty neat. I've been playing about an hour an tooling about doing stuff, but my abilities at having fun are tampered by my lack of money. It seems like everyone expects me to have more money than I do, what am I doing wrong? My only source of income seems to be collecting the spice and selling it, but it makes fuck all. Do I have to grind the shitty missions to make enough money to terraform things? Does that just get me more useless spice?
Terraforming will get you spice, but I tend to do it just for the hell of it. Doing missions will give you blocks of money while your spice is regenerating, and after doing a shit-ton of them you'll get some of the cool unlockables (hologram, cloaking device, etc...).
Eventually, you're going to unlock all the atmosphere tools in a more economic fashion; costing ship power rather than money. So, yeah, space stage definitely starts off slow. It will all be a faint memory when you reach the godlike power of late game.
Oh, and try to stay away from the center of the galaxy, unless you want to deal with an attack every 15 minutes. And watch out for Spode worshippers (unless you're a filthy Spodite yourself :x).
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^ That's pretty much it. Collecting artifacts is a good way to earn money for the initial terraforming to build your empire. Quicker and easier than those shitty missions for that asshole neighbor you don't like.
Man, once you get the better weapons, kiss paying any tributes ever again. Go genocidal on the Spode worshippers.
Cloud Accumulator - Empire 2 or Terra-Wrangler - Base Cost = §450,000
Cloud Vaccum - Empire 2 or Terra-Wrangler - Base Cost = §450,000
Refrigeration Ray - Empire 3 or Terra-Wrangler - Base Cost = §450,000
Heat Ray - Empire 3 or Terra-Wrangler - Base Cost = §450,000
Air Conditioning - Empire 5 or Terra-Wrangler - Base Cost = §600,000
Hot Cloud Seeder - Empire 5 or Terra-Wrangler - Base Cost = §600,000
Hot Cloud Vaccum - Empire 4 or Terra-Wrangler - Base Cost = §600,000
Cold Cloud Vaccum - Empire 4 or Terra-Wrangler - Base Cost = §600,000
--==Empire==--
Level 1 - Grow to 3 Solar Systems, 2 Badge Points
Level 2 - Grow to 7 Solar Systems, 4 Badge Points
Level 3 - Grow to 13 Solar Systems, 6 Badge Points
Level 4 - Grow to 22 Solar Systems, 8 Badge Points
Level 5 - Grow to 35 Solar Systems, 10 Badge Points
This requires you to be using those terraforming tools quite a fair bit,
but this isn't all that bad, you can get the Zoologist badge while you are
here as well.
You should only need to get to empire 3 to terraform any planet with energy weapons.
Blue and green spice can also sell for a decent amount. Red and yellow is basically worthless.
Also, you can make money by attacking people and destroying their cities.
I only discovered this later in the game when it didn't matter anymore. Yes. Fuck someone up and grab the huge cash drops from the ruins of their cities.
Blue and green spice can also sell for a decent amount. Red and yellow is basically worthless.
Also, you can make money by attacking people and destroying their cities.
I only discovered this later in the game when it didn't matter anymore. Yes. Fuck someone up and grab the huge cash drops from the ruins of their cities.
I only get about 100,000 dollars from each city when I do that, and it only became viable when I got good weapons.
See that stage of the game sounds awesome, where you can just terraform whatever. I guess I'll have to hunt around for some purple spice!
Also am I the only one who can't see any reason that they even put the first four games in? They suck! The civilisation stage is LUDICROUSLY easy! I don't even know how you could lose it!
Blue and green spice can also sell for a decent amount. Red and yellow is basically worthless.
Also, you can make money by attacking people and destroying their cities.
I only discovered this later in the game when it didn't matter anymore. Yes. Fuck someone up and grab the huge cash drops from the ruins of their cities.
I've seen yellow sell for around 10k, and it produces pretty fast, if you find a neighbor suddenly in demand of it. Look around Blue stars for the Blue, Green, Pink, and (omg) Purple spice.
See that stage of the game sounds awesome, where you can just terraform whatever. I guess I'll have to hunt around for some purple spice!
Also am I the only one who can't see any reason that they even put the first four games in? They suck! The civilisation stage is LUDICROUSLY easy! I don't even know how you could lose it!
Civ Stage should have been way better, but I consider Tribal to be greatest sinner. My second and third favorites (respectively) were creature and cell. Yeah, not surprised about your opinion.
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Blue and green spice can also sell for a decent amount. Red and yellow is basically worthless.
Also, you can make money by attacking people and destroying their cities.
I only discovered this later in the game when it didn't matter anymore. Yes. Fuck someone up and grab the huge cash drops from the ruins of their cities.
I only get about 100,000 dollars from each city when I do that, and it only became viable when I got good weapons.
Honestly as long as you have one of the mega weapons, you can fuck a city up like nobody's business. My favorite was always the Mega Pulse, which will take out most buildings in two shots, plus there is splash damage.
Tube, buy the Mega Pulse and blow up some Spode worshippers.
See that stage of the game sounds awesome, where you can just terraform whatever. I guess I'll have to hunt around for some purple spice!
Also am I the only one who can't see any reason that they even put the first four games in? They suck! The civilisation stage is LUDICROUSLY easy! I don't even know how you could lose it!
Well, cell is pointless because you just staple legs on at the end and change everything, so there is no sense of progression.
Creature was a lot of fun, especially if you try to only make incremental changes over generations. Plus, your evolution actually did shit.
Tribal and civ were both entirely pointless. Nothing carries over, you don't do anything meaningful, especially in tribal. The game should have just had 2 stages, creature and space, with a Giants: Citizen Kabuto style RTS action in between instead of the shitty tribal/civ modes. Also, you should be able to get out of your space ship. I hear they're working on that for the expansion after the creepy whatever parts pack.
I liked the creature phase least of all, because it felt like a repetitive grind. Run up to thing. Kill thing. Go looking for parts. Repeat until you have enough parts to not completely hate your creature. Go to next stage. Kill self.
Spode worshippers are religious fanatics who will constantly demand your money. Don't take their shit.
I can blow them up though right
all of them
Like I always say, Spode himself is probably a cool guy, but his followers are total dicks. Kill them all for their insolence.
You can't ignore the fucker's, either. If they're not killing your manz, or demanding money out of you, they're making your allies cry for help. Now I just bomb them on first contact.
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I figured that the early stages (which I think every review commented were boring, to some degree) are there largely as a tutorial, so you're better prepared when you get out into space. Something like that.
Space stage only became fun when I realized that not cheating is for chumps and then began to experiment with the creature-fabricating tools and uplifting species and shit. Then it became a truly epic space drama.
Civ was my favorite. Waging all out war was great. I did find the instant win weapon retarded though. I have 4 cities left, I don't want to just instantly blow them up or convert them. I want it to be personnal. I haven't done an economic Civ stage yet, although there is really hardly a difference.
I tried to do an economic civ stage, but everyone kept fighting me instead of trading. I lost 2 vehicles and then... well, what can I say, I'm not much of a diplomat.
I tried to do an economic civ stage, but everyone kept fighting me instead of trading. I lost 2 vehicles and then... well, what can I say, I'm not much of a diplomat.
You're telling me I should give money to the people who blew up my shit? Over my grave.
It just makes more satisfying later when, suddenly, you buy the fuck out of all their cities. It's the Karma from high school, coming right back to bite them.
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You're telling me I should give money to the people who blew up my shit? Over my grave.
It just makes more satisfying later when, suddenly, you buy the fuck out of all their cities. It's the Karma from high school, coming right back to bite them.
The thing is, once you give them enough cash to make them happy, you've basically won. It just takes an extra 10-15 minutes of staring at the screen before your victory actually kicks in.
You're telling me I should give money to the people who blew up my shit? Over my grave.
It just makes more satisfying later when, suddenly, you buy the fuck out of all their cities. It's the Karma from high school, coming right back to bite them.
The thing is, once you give them enough cash to make them happy, you've basically won. It just takes an extra 10-15 minutes of staring at the screen before your victory actually kicks in.
Going herbivore at cell stage gives you a nice ability to fend off war. If you went carnivore, then it's going to be a little more difficult.
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You're telling me I should give money to the people who blew up my shit? Over my grave.
It just makes more satisfying later when, suddenly, you buy the fuck out of all their cities. It's the Karma from high school, coming right back to bite them.
The thing is, once you give them enough cash to make them happy, you've basically won. It just takes an extra 10-15 minutes of staring at the screen before your victory actually kicks in.
Going herbivore at cell stage gives you a nice ability to fend off war. If you went carnivore, then it's going to be a little more difficult.
You're telling me I should give money to the people who blew up my shit? Over my grave.
It just makes more satisfying later when, suddenly, you buy the fuck out of all their cities. It's the Karma from high school, coming right back to bite them.
The thing is, once you give them enough cash to make them happy, you've basically won. It just takes an extra 10-15 minutes of staring at the screen before your victory actually kicks in.
Going herbivore at cell stage gives you a nice ability to fend off war. If you went carnivore, then it's going to be a little more difficult.
Huh? The healing one? How does that help at all?
Oops, my bad. Wrong stage. The Social creature stage bonus, actually. Diplo Dervish.
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See that stage of the game sounds awesome, where you can just terraform whatever. I guess I'll have to hunt around for some purple spice!
Also am I the only one who can't see any reason that they even put the first four games in? They suck! The civilisation stage is LUDICROUSLY easy! I don't even know how you could lose it!
I love the first two stages.
The second two blow.
And then you have space, which is occasionally cool, but mostly just sucks ass.
Ok I started again and played all day. It's not so bad once you get the hang of it.
The problem is, I want to build a solid foundation and tool about a bit, but I can't because literally every five minutes someone launches an attack on one of my planets, which I, personally, have to defend. Sometimes three at once. It's not feasible to keep peace with everyone, and the only way to peace once you're at war is buying your way out. Even with the mega laser, going on the offensive isn't terribly practical, and where does it end? If I kill the two species I'm fighting now, are two more going to pop up? Am I doing something horribly wrong?
Also no sign of any purple spice worlds yet. I have a pink and some greens.
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Also, you can make money by attacking people and destroying their cities.
Terraforming will get you spice, but I tend to do it just for the hell of it. Doing missions will give you blocks of money while your spice is regenerating, and after doing a shit-ton of them you'll get some of the cool unlockables (hologram, cloaking device, etc...).
Eventually, you're going to unlock all the atmosphere tools in a more economic fashion; costing ship power rather than money. So, yeah, space stage definitely starts off slow. It will all be a faint memory when you reach the godlike power of late game.
Oh, and try to stay away from the center of the galaxy, unless you want to deal with an attack every 15 minutes. And watch out for Spode worshippers (unless you're a filthy Spodite yourself :x).
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Man, once you get the better weapons, kiss paying any tributes ever again. Go genocidal on the Spode worshippers.
I only discovered this later in the game when it didn't matter anymore. Yes. Fuck someone up and grab the huge cash drops from the ruins of their cities.
Also am I the only one who can't see any reason that they even put the first four games in? They suck! The civilisation stage is LUDICROUSLY easy! I don't even know how you could lose it!
I've seen yellow sell for around 10k, and it produces pretty fast, if you find a neighbor suddenly in demand of it. Look around Blue stars for the Blue, Green, Pink, and (omg) Purple spice.
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Civ Stage should have been way better, but I consider Tribal to be greatest sinner. My second and third favorites (respectively) were creature and cell. Yeah, not surprised about your opinion.
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Tube, buy the Mega Pulse and blow up some Spode worshippers.
PLEASE.
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Well, cell is pointless because you just staple legs on at the end and change everything, so there is no sense of progression.
Creature was a lot of fun, especially if you try to only make incremental changes over generations. Plus, your evolution actually did shit.
Tribal and civ were both entirely pointless. Nothing carries over, you don't do anything meaningful, especially in tribal. The game should have just had 2 stages, creature and space, with a Giants: Citizen Kabuto style RTS action in between instead of the shitty tribal/civ modes. Also, you should be able to get out of your space ship. I hear they're working on that for the expansion after the creepy whatever parts pack.
They're like those annoying missionaries that come to your door, only they also rob you at gun point.
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I can blow them up though right
all of them
in the end I just cheated my way to the core to see what the fuck
Yes, you can. Mega weapons help.
They are the reason I kept playing. I couldn't let them win.
You can't ignore the fucker's, either. If they're not killing your manz, or demanding money out of you, they're making your allies cry for help. Now I just bomb them on first contact.
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as long as you have enough money from trading
but you can't have too many trade links
and you have to be allied with everyone you meet or you're fucked
and any planet you want to destroy has to be either destroyed from orbit or personally ravaged by your own star ship
Civ was my favorite. Waging all out war was great. I did find the instant win weapon retarded though. I have 4 cities left, I don't want to just instantly blow them up or convert them. I want it to be personnal. I haven't done an economic Civ stage yet, although there is really hardly a difference.
Why didn't you just bribe them?
Bitches need to step back.
It just makes more satisfying later when, suddenly, you buy the fuck out of all their cities. It's the Karma from high school, coming right back to bite them.
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The thing is, once you give them enough cash to make them happy, you've basically won. It just takes an extra 10-15 minutes of staring at the screen before your victory actually kicks in.
Going herbivore at cell stage gives you a nice ability to fend off war. If you went carnivore, then it's going to be a little more difficult.
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Huh? The healing one? How does that help at all?
Oops, my bad. Wrong stage. The Social creature stage bonus, actually. Diplo Dervish.
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Now, religious conquest in Civ? Oh, how I hope for an expansion that turns it into a full game.
I love the first two stages.
The second two blow.
And then you have space, which is occasionally cool, but mostly just sucks ass.
The problem is, I want to build a solid foundation and tool about a bit, but I can't because literally every five minutes someone launches an attack on one of my planets, which I, personally, have to defend. Sometimes three at once. It's not feasible to keep peace with everyone, and the only way to peace once you're at war is buying your way out. Even with the mega laser, going on the offensive isn't terribly practical, and where does it end? If I kill the two species I'm fighting now, are two more going to pop up? Am I doing something horribly wrong?
Also no sign of any purple spice worlds yet. I have a pink and some greens.