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Out of the blue breakup

tzieltziel Registered User regular
edited November 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
I really should start this with some backstory. I live out in Seattle and untill recently with my now EX courtney (together about 3 months). She moved up here from Louisiana recently and seems to be loving it, however, her Ex from back home continued to try to win her back saying he was going to change and even going so far as to say if she came back home he would marry her.
Even with this however, things went rather smoothly untill last week when she went home to visit her family. She ended up meeting up with him there where he broke down crying gave her some seven pages of love letters that he wrote her. I didn't hear anymore about it till last night when I picked her up from the airport and got back to the house when she broke the news on me that she has to leave me because she doesn't love me the same way as she loved him when they were together. I tried to get her to stay saying the the scheme of a long term relationship three months is nothing and it is perfectly normal to have different feelings toward your partner in different relationships.
She packed up and left right then which leads me to my question. I really do love her and want to be with her, but would I just be wasting my time by trying to work things out with her at this point? or should I just let her go?

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  • Forbe!Forbe! Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Let her go.

    Seriously, if she would leave you willie nillie like this for someone else, what makes you believe that even if you did win her back it wouldn't happen again?!

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Yeah, it seems like she's more interested in emotional turbulence than steady longterm relationship. You could win her back with a grand gesture, maybe, but as soon as you settled down she might just end up yearning for someone to break down in tears in front of her again.

    Anyone who'd do what she did probably isn't interested in a commitment right now, and won't be for a while.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2008
    You avoided a trainwreck. Go buy yourself a beer.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    You avoided a trainwreck. Go buy yourself a beer.
    Several beers. Call some friends, hang out, say bad things about her.

    You've been dumped, but that doesn't mean you have to be pathetic about it. Don't be surprised if she comes crawling back a few months down the line, either, but under no circumstances should you take her back. You can do better.

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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    If she expected to have strong feelings of love, and for this relationship to feel exactly like her old one, after 3 months, methinks she has an unrealistic understanding of relationships. Finding out 3 months in is MUCH better than finding out 2 years in (TRUST me). Consider yourself lucky and move on to your next life experience.

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Don't be surprised if she comes crawling back a few months down the line, either, but under no circumstances should you take her back. You can do better.

    This. Yes.

    Also, I've been just where you are, let her go. She's an idiot. Time mends broken hearts and then you'll find someone who will make you happy and will be more considerate of your feelings and will respect you.

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  • Tucanwarrior13Tucanwarrior13 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I think most people can agree when I say; we've all been through it, and we all went with "Fuck it, I'm gonna get her back" only to have it happen a month, two, or three later all over again. Girls like that (as said before) are happier when there is someone pining after them, and they have two people to play the filed with. If you played the game all you'd be doing is giving her what she wants.

    I second drinking MANY beers with some good pals, and saying nasty things about her. It honestly makes the situation about a thousand times better.

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  • TrowizillaTrowizilla Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    It was three months and she wasn't over her ex even a little. Mail her stuff and don't ever see her again, even when she inevitably comes looking to you to provide drama in her new-old relationship.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Be glad her crazy-ass ex (sobbing, seven pages of love letters, and three months of obsession = crazy) saved you from even more suffering than you've got now.

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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    It sounds like you already know what you should do, you're just looking for confirmation. As everyone else has said: Confirmed. Let the silly bitch go, be glad it's now, and vindictively hope the door hits her ass on the way out.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited November 2008
    tziel wrote: »
    She packed up and left right then which leads me to my question. I really do love her and want to be with her, but would I just be wasting my time by trying to work things out with her at this point? or should I just let her go?

    Absolutely.

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  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Why would you want to be with someone who treats you like that? You were rebound guy!

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  • tzieltziel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I guess my problem is that everything was going so well up to her trip, at which point her entire family tried to get her to stay and go back to her Ex. In her shoes I know I would have left that visit enourmously confused and backwards. I normally would be on exactly the page you guys are on (been through that before as well) but this time I think I may try leaving things open to trying agian once she has had some time to come away from her pressuring family.

    I just left her a note in some of her stuff saying that it was fun but I will not be your rebound relationship. And that months down the road if she thinks she has her shit together enough to give this relationship an honest shot I will be here, but if I even get a hint that her goal is just to stir up some old drama then we go our seperate ways for good.

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  • tzieltziel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Luckily I have no problem ending relationships, so if we do attempt to patch things up and she can't get over that guy then I will know absolutely that there is no making it work and end it. As things are now I realize it is a bad idea to try to start agian, but hopefully in a while we will at least be able to sit down and discuss what happened and go from there. But thanks to all your sugjestions I will be doing it very very cautiously and at the first sign that this may to repeat itself I will be out of there like a bolt.

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  • CoJoeTheLawyerCoJoeTheLawyer Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    mcdermott wrote: »

    EDIT: If she was this easily swayed by her family into making a serious relationship decision, you honestly thing that (A) she was that serious about you to begin with or (B) this won't happen in some form or another again? I guess some people, after having narrowly avoided a train wreck, just have to park their car on the tracks again just to see.

    You don't want to be in the situation where every time she returns home to the Louisiana bayou, that she'll flip-flop, dump you again and place you in the exact same situation you're in now.

    Cut your losses now, take a deep breath, then start over wiser from the exsperience.

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  • LailLail Surrey, B.C.Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    If she had told you that she cheated on you when she met up with this guy, would you still take her back? Because, she probably did.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Lail wrote: »
    If she had told you that she cheated on you when she met up with this guy, would you still take her back? Because, she probably did.
    Does it really matter whether she started fucking him again immediately before or immediately after she broke up with him? I would think not.

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  • tzieltziel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I think based on what you all have said I am going to relent on this one and try to let it go. Realisticly speaking however if she does try to come back and make it work I will end up trying agian (just speaking on what I know of myself). But I don't know if she will, what do you all think the chances are in this kind of situation of her coming crawling back?

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  • tzieltziel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Surprisingly this is the least fucked over I have been in any relationship and that is really doing a lot to confuse me. In previous relationships I have been abused both mentally and physically(I have some hillarious stories in this regard), been taken advantage of in many ways and I have always just taken it in stride. She has been the first person to treat me half as well as I have treated her. Please do forgive me if I am an idiot when it comes to relationships, but I will try to follow your advice as best I can

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I don't think people are necessarily dumping on you, even if it sounds that way. But the note is very passive, yet gives you a "hook" to see if you can snag her. You're trying to see if you can plant doubt in her mind, so she thinks about you in the future.

    Seriously, what are you going to think about when she's down there and unpacking? The note! And when a month goes by and you haven't heard from her, what are you going to think? "Hmm I wonder if she found that note, maybe she really doesn't like me at all" And then, if she DOES get a hold of you, even if it's just to say "Look, I'm sorry this went bad, just don't hate me OK," you're going to think "OK, is she saying this because she found my note and actually wants to get back with me?

    When I was like 14, I moved cross country and the first thing I did was send a love letter to a girl I had a crush on. She, of course, had no real idea that I felt strongly about her, and I had just left. My young, addled brain at the time wanted to get it off my chest.

    Instead, I know that 2-3 days after I sent it, she received it, read it, and thought I was a creep. Probably told some people at the school too, so then I was the "creepy guy who moved away." Of course I never heard from her again. Of course, it was a fabulous way for me to get past her as I realized after a month or two that of course she wasn't going to respond to me and now she knew I was a weirdo, so I had no choice but to forget about her -- and felt bad about it, instead of positive and "OK, screw those people, new life for me!"

    It's the same reason why people will throw away trinkets and reminders when they break up with someone -- they don't want to be reminded of bad stuff going down. But you left a note, tucked in with her stuff, that she'll probably find creepy and that you'll get stuck on once she's moved away.

    The outrage above is that it seemed fine, but then you essentially said "well I know she's probably a bad deal but if she came back to me I wouldn't turn her away," which says "I plan on dwelling on her for a long time, not moving forward."

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  • tzieltziel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I left it on top of her crap, and she isn't moving back home she is just moving out

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    You avoided a trainwreck. Go buy yourself a beer.
    Several beers. Call some friends, hang out, say bad things about her.

    You've been dumped, but that doesn't mean you have to be pathetic about it. Don't be surprised if she comes crawling back a few months down the line, either, but under no circumstances should you take her back. You can do better.

    All of this. The backstory here suggests that you are the one who has emerged victorious.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    tziel wrote: »
    Surprisingly this is the least fucked over I have been in any relationship and that is really doing a lot to confuse me. In previous relationships I have been abused both mentally and physically(I have some hillarious stories in this regard), been taken advantage of in many ways and I have always just taken it in stride. She has been the first person to treat me half as well as I have treated her. Please do forgive me if I am an idiot when it comes to relationships, but I will try to follow your advice as best I can


    Gee. I wonder why people take advantage of you. It's not like any of your related posts here have indicated that you have doormat written on your forehead.

    Still, I would take a look at the mirror and check anyways.

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  • tzieltziel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I am not normally this doormatish, but I think under the circumstances I am allowed to be a bit off. I am very curious as to what you all think the chances were of her trying to come back, I have no intention of taking her back but I think it would do wonders for my self-esteem.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    mcdermott wrote: »
    tziel wrote: »
    I am not normally this doormatish, but I think under the circumstances I am allowed to be a bit off. I am very curious as to what you all think the chances were of her trying to come back, I have no intention of taking her back but I think it would do wonders for my self-esteem.

    You should find a way to improve your self-esteem that doesn't involve earning the affection of crazy people.

    You're only crazy if you're poor. If you're rich, you're eccentric

    And Tziel, who cares man? Go get drunk.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    mcdermott wrote: »
    noir_blood wrote: »
    mcdermott wrote: »
    tziel wrote: »
    I am not normally this doormatish, but I think under the circumstances I am allowed to be a bit off. I am very curious as to what you all think the chances were of her trying to come back, I have no intention of taking her back but I think it would do wonders for my self-esteem.

    You should find a way to improve your self-esteem that doesn't involve earning the affection of crazy people.

    You're only crazy if you're poor. If you're rich, you're eccentric

    And Tziel, who cares man? Go get drunk.

    Seriously, less typing more drinking.

    Oh, and just in case, don't you fucking dare drunk-dial/text/IM/email this girl.

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  • tzieltziel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I am actually already drunk (been drinking an 18 year McCallan) and yes it would help my self-esteem, but I am not depending on it to still have a good self image and be happy. But I really am curious as to if you think she will try to come back based on what you guys know about these types of situations.

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  • lsukalellsukalel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    What has been my experience and the experience of many friends is that she will nearly 100% of the time try to come back to you, BUT this not normally because of love for the guy (i.e. you). It more has to do with missing the comfort and stability provided but not the love from the other person. This in turn leads to another and this time messier break up than before.

    Trust me, Forget about her, You have dodged a huge bullet, fuck it you have dodged a missile. Better than getting drunk, get upset, and give yourself time. Nothing but time AWAY from her will help.

    I suggest rounding up anything that reminds you of her and putting it in a box and giving it to someone to hold for you so that sometime in the future you can look back as just memories and not "OMG I love her!"

    Also again just realize that nothing will magically make you feel better it will happen gradually and over an extended period of time.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    Let her go.

    Tell her no when she comes crawling back.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    tziel wrote: »
    I am actually already drunk (been drinking an 18 year McCallan) and yes it would help my self-esteem, but I am not depending on it to still have a good self image and be happy. But I really am curious as to if you think she will try to come back based on what you guys know about these types of situations.

    That when she does you should tell her "no" unless your hobbies include that game where you blindfold yourself, take off your pants, flop your junk on a workbench and try to nail your testicles with an awl.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    mcdermott wrote: »
    tziel wrote: »
    I am actually already drunk (been drinking an 18 year McCallan) and yes it would help my self-esteem, but I am not depending on it to still have a good self image and be happy. But I really am curious as to if you think she will try to come back based on what you guys know about these types of situations.

    That when she does you should tell her "no" unless your hobbies include that game where you blindfold yourself, take off your pants, flop your junk on a workbench and try to nail your testicles with an awl.

    So how precisely does one define "winning" and "losing" in that game?

    Arbitrarily.

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  • tzieltziel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    mcdermott wrote: »
    tziel wrote: »
    I am actually already drunk (been drinking an 18 year McCallan) and yes it would help my self-esteem, but I am not depending on it to still have a good self image and be happy. But I really am curious as to if you think she will try to come back based on what you guys know about these types of situations.

    That when she does you should tell her "no" unless your hobbies include that game where you blindfold yourself, take off your pants, flop your junk on a workbench and try to nail your testicles with an awl.

    So how precisely does one define "winning" and "losing" in that game?

    Also, your goal...and I do mean a short term goal...should be getting to the point where you honestly don't give a fuck if she comes back. So that if/when she does, you can that much more easily tell her to piss off. Because if you have to think about it, you could wind up fucking up big time.

    Trust me when I say I am good at telling an EX to piss off. With the previous one I called he another highfive in the locker room and slept with her best friend/roommate, however she really fucked me over so I feel I was justified. Honestly though I am just amazed I can type at my current level of drunkenness

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2008
    mcdermott wrote: »
    tziel wrote: »
    I am actually already drunk (been drinking an 18 year McCallan) and yes it would help my self-esteem, but I am not depending on it to still have a good self image and be happy. But I really am curious as to if you think she will try to come back based on what you guys know about these types of situations.

    That when she does you should tell her "no" unless your hobbies include that game where you blindfold yourself, take off your pants, flop your junk on a workbench and try to nail your testicles with an awl.

    So how precisely does one define "winning" and "losing" in that game?

    if you can get through both before passing out, you win.

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