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Video: Interview w/ Tycho

Sir PeechizworthSir Peechizworth Registered User regular
edited November 2008 in Artist's Corner
I edited this video for GZ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v1Uo_lHnrQ

Hope you like it :D

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  • bombardierbombardier Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited November 2008
    Ok but what does this have to do with the AC?

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  • misosoupmisosoup Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    this is a horrible video, all of the visual clues are patronising as hell, the editing really detracts from the interview itself, which has to be said, is a rubbish interview.

    And yeah, echo, what does this have to do with the AC?

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  • Sir PeechizworthSir Peechizworth Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    is video editing not artsy enough for the ac? haha

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  • Sir PeechizworthSir Peechizworth Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    i'm really not site-whoring guys, I edited the video. I made the motion graphics with the fighting fists, the steamvalve, etc. I'm still learning how to make interesting motion graphics and stuff, so I wondered what you guys would think. The other video i did with Alan Alcorn (the guy that made pong) the graphics are a lot worse, so i'm getting a little better.

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  • Sir PeechizworthSir Peechizworth Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    also, i claim no responsibility for the skill (or lack thereof) of the interviewer girl, haha. I didn't shoot it, i just edited it together.

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  • JivesJives Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The problem is


    WHY DID YOU PUT THE GRAPHICS AND NOISES IN, JESUS CHRIST.


    They completely ruin what could be a reasonable interview. To edit an interview, you need an intro an outro and to remove the crap parts. you don't need fucking steam valves shooting out games consoles

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  • KendeathwalkerKendeathwalker Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    What Jives said.


    That was the most irritating shit I have seen in quite some time.

    Just because you can do something, doesnt mean that you should do it.

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  • Sir PeechizworthSir Peechizworth Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Jives wrote: »
    WHY DID YOU PUT THE GRAPHICS AND NOISES IN, JESUS CHRIST.

    The GameZombie group aesthetic is a kind of ADD editing that we try to do. It's a weird dicotomy because we're trying to make good, entertaining videos, but we're also trying to learn how to use the editing programs. I mean, maybe it's not the greatest, but I'm just learning. :D

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  • KajustaKajusta Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    It's not whether they are good or bad.

    It's why they are even there in the first place.

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  • HeartlashHeartlash Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Effects and editing of this type should only be used to enhance an interview, and generally the best way to do so is through subtlety. If you'd done a good job, I wouldn't have noticed that you did anything. I would've been fully immersed in what I was watching.

    What you've done instead is create effects that overtake and distract from the interview. I want all that shit to be out of the way (including the music, which should definitely have been toned down when people were speaking).

    If you want to practice editing, do so with voice over in documentary-like fashion. Do not do so with an interview.

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  • DeeLockDeeLock Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Terrible...just terrible.

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  • NeoRedXIIINeoRedXIII Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Don't do what you've done again the way you did it.

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  • ProspicienceProspicience The Raven King DenvemoloradoRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The music isn't super distracting, but honestly that's about it. Even with the music though, if the sound level was lowered a bit it'd work better. I agree with everyone on the effects (sound and otherwise) being a little over the top though.

    It's okay to practice those kind of graphical effects and whatnot on your own time (the more you learn the better), our effects editor does all sorts of random stuff on his own just to better understand special effects. But, I wouldn't publish any of it.

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  • DMACDMAC Come at me, bro! Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited November 2008
    All of the effects are terribly distracting. It's like when people first get their hands on PowerPoint and decide to add all kinds of motion and sound effects and clip art to their presentations. It's possible to do these things in moderation to enhance the presentation but that isn't happening here.

    At all.

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  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    C'mon DMAC, everyone knows that as many effects as possible in the shortest amount of time = better.

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  • Castle_BuilderCastle_Builder regular
    edited November 2008
    The REASON people watch interviews is because they are interested in whats being said.

    Whats is being SAID is the FOCUS of the entire reason people would want to watch this.

    Thus anything that detracts from ... overshadows ... obscures ... or in some way maked whats being said difficult to understand, hear, follow etc is something you do not want.

    The point being that the sound effects erase some of the dialogue or make it hard to follow or make it irritating as fuck to follow.

    The graphics erase the reactions.

    People WANT to see the person being interviewed ... 60% of language is communicated through nonverbal methods so watching the person you want to see intervied is HIGHLY important when you are promoting an interview in a visual medium. There is an expectation we will be able to see Jerrys posture and facial expressions because this is a video and not a radio blurb.

    You need to understand what your audience expects and wants from you before you start editing. Otherwise you are just fumbling around in the dark with no focus.

    What the audience wants to see and hear is important in a case like this NOT what YOU want to see and hear.

    Also ... in editing please remember you may know this interview back and forth by heart but you MUST approach it as though EVERYONE else is seeing it for the first time ... so things your editing covers that you know are there are not going to be seen or heard by the first time viewer.

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  • CrowlestonCrowleston Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    You would have a great career in TV blooper special editing.

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited November 2008
    there's a certain thing you should remember when doing something like this - what's this for? Do the graphics actually add anything to the production or do they take away from it? Are they visually or audibly important or add anything beyond "I know how to push this button"?

    Your additions are distracting, they take away from the interview itself and are generally a nuisance, but they show some basic skills. Be more decisive about why you're doing them and you might have something going for you down the raod.

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  • bombardierbombardier Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited November 2008
    Yeah the effects were pretty much the equivalent of difference clouds and lens flares in a photo manipulation.

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  • r-jasperr-jasper Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    no the video equivilant of a lens flare was be a star swipe.

    *swoosh!*

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  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Star wipes are the rolls royce of wipes anything less is short changing the viewer.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Why eat hamburger when you can have steak!

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  • D-RobeD-Robe Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    That reminded me of all the ridiculous wipes that that terrible "Home Improvement" show used.

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  • ProspicienceProspicience The Raven King DenvemoloradoRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    D-Robe wrote: »
    That reminded me of all the ridiculous wipes that that terrible "Home Improvement" show used.

    You take that back.

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  • D-RobeD-Robe Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Fine, I take it back. Home Improvement was awesome. HOHOHO

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  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    No it wasn't.....seriously it wasn't.

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  • JohnTWMJohnTWM Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Stop deluding yourselves and just admit the genius of Tim Allen alright! (no but seriously I liked that show alright back in the day, no need to hate just cause it was super 90s! Also Heidi was hot!)

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  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Look, this is the internet and hating things isn't just a privilege it's damn well neccessary.
    So get with the program and start hating things, even the shit you used to like because everyone know that liking things is irreversably gay.

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  • D-RobeD-Robe Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Alas, you're right. Fuck Home Improvement!

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  • OllieOllie Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Reading through this topic reminded me of something I've been wondering about. If someone's art is really bad enough, or if you've been around long enough, is it okay to totally ignore rule #2?

    On-topic, I agree that the added effects are really unnecessary and a tad over the top (though I prefer to save "terrible" for videos I can't even comprehend, and I can follow this) but it was irritating enough for me to not finish watching it. I'm used to seeing stuff like randomly changing the hue (color) of the video to something on TV so that it's not very distracting, but all the little things that pop up at the bottom of the screen detract from what Tycho is saying. If you really want to add little pop-up things at the bottom, why not go with a less flashy (and less noisy) approach and try something like... I dunno, trivia? Things like when P-A was first published online, initial vs. present success, something about PAX, stuff that is relevant to the interview content but not actually said by Tycho himself.

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  • LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    So I finally mustered the courage to look at the video and got pissed off by the noises and zoomed by it after 5 seconds then just stopped and rage quit.

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  • FugitiveFugitive Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Hi Peechiz!

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  • bwaniebwanie Posting into the void Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    is this the AC equivalent of trolling?

    is this a gameGRRRL alt?

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  • Sir PeechizworthSir Peechizworth Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Ollie wrote: »
    Tycho is saying. If you really want to add little pop-up things at the bottom, why not go with a less flashy (and less noisy) approach and try something like... I dunno, trivia? Things like when P-A was first published online, initial vs. present success, something about PAX, stuff that is relevant to the interview content but not actually said by Tycho himself.

    Woh, cool. This is some really constructive criticism. This is the kind of thing I can and will think about doing in future videos.

    @Bomb Haha, i wondered how long till someone brought up lens flare.

    Some problems I encountered while editing: Jerry is VERY long winded. The reason that the sepia comes in during that graphic segment is that the audio is very heavily edited, but you wouldn't know that unless you saw the original video footage juxtaposed. If this had been a game interview, I would have used Gameplay footage to cover the sound edits, but the lack thereof left me wondering how to cover my tracks. One of the goals of the video was to make it short enough to keep it engaging, and I didn't want to insult Jerry by making him look like he was unprepared for the interview.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Some problems I encountered while editing: Jerry is VERY long winded.
    You did a decent job in that respect - while I noticed it didn't sync, I didn't realise it was chopped together. However, if it's Jerry Holkins I think you're fine with letting him be a bit sesquipedalian - anyone who's watching the video will be familiar with what he's like. Know your audience.

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  • Sir PeechizworthSir Peechizworth Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Willeth wrote: »
    sesquipedalian

    You win. I <3 that word.

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