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ROUND THREE: FIGHT C: PRE-FIGHT DEBATE

Son of BeyonderSon of Beyonder From BeyondBeyondRegistered User regular
edited November 2006 in Graphic Violence
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HULK – HULK IS STRONGEST ONE THERE IS

POWERS AND ABILITIES: Superhuman strength, stamina, and invulnerability. Regenerative healing factor. Ability to see and communicate with astral bodies. Radiation absorption. Transformation. Strong resistance (but not immunity) to mind control.

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THOR – Norse God

POWERS AND ABILITIES: Superhuman Strength, Speed and Stamina, Semi-invulnerability, Flight (via Mjolnir), Weather Control, Force Blasts

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NAMOR – IMPERIUS REX

POWERS AND ABILITIES: Fully amphibious physiology suited for extreme pressures, superhuman strength, speed and durability, Flight

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MARTIAN MANHUNTER – WANTS CHOCOS

POWERS AND ABILITIES: Superhuman strength, speed and endurance, Invulnerability, Invisibility, Intangibility, Shape Shifting, Telepathy, Flight, Martian vision

In all third round battles, heroes may choose to prepare only at their own facilities, or at the facilities of their supergroup. Heroes may match video of two of their three opponents. Heroes have TWENTY MINUTES outside of video time to prepare for battle. If a character opts out of the video, he still only has twenty minutes to prepare. Heroes come equipped with their standard equipment, and may equip one special item, provided that item is not a dues ex machina. Weaknesses that are not publicly known to the hero’s home universe/world will not be made available to the heroes during prep time. Heroes who already know of these weaknesses for whatever reason are not caused to forget this information. Heroes may also consult with an advisor for thirty minutes, rules on that may be found in the recap thread.

VOTING WILL TAKE PLACE IN A SEPARATE THREAD. RULES FOR VOTING WILL BE POSTED UPON THAT THREAD’S OPENING. THE VOTING THREAD WILL OPEN AT ELEVEN O’CLOCK CENTRAL TIME TOMORROW.

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1. Giant forest – trees three times of any redwood
2. Baxter Building
3. the Grand Canyon
4. Alpine mountains
5. Monster Island

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited November 2006
    Man.

    Namor definitely doesn't win this one. And I think the only way Hulk advances is if J'onn or Thor take each other out.

    And I think I'd give that fight to Thor.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Thor and MM. Sorry, Hulkster.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Fencingsax wrote:
    Thor and MM. Sorry, Hulkster.
    But...Hulk is the strongest there is...

    Sigh.

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Ouch no water, Namor is pretty Fucked.

    I'd say Thor and either MM or Hulk, but I'm not sure as to how much J'onn could mindfuck with Hulk.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Fencingsax wrote:
    Thor and MM. Sorry, Hulkster.
    But...Hulk is the strongest there is...

    Sigh.

    Yes, but MM can go intangible, Shapeshift, and is as strong as Superman.

    And Thor has fought a pretty angry Hulk to a standstill.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    namor is out, lack of water.

    MM won't be able to mind rape hulkster if he has that resistance plus having to fend off the other combatants.

    I'd say Hulk and Thor.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Also, MM will just get whatever Batman has that will take out Doomsday.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited November 2006
    Fencingsax wrote:
    Also, MM will just get whatever Batman has that will take out Doomsday.

    What? No.

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  • NinjaSquirrelNinjaSquirrel Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Think I'm gonna go with Thor and MM. Not sure which order yet though.

    Hulk cannot fly so the others can just stay away from him and he'll spend his time just sitting on the ground twittling his thumbs and Namor just isn't strong enough to take out the other two.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    Hulk can throw those huge ass trees

    EDIT: And them ignoring Hulk make Hulk angry. Hulk strongest there is! Hulk use tree as bat! Swat them, make them fight Hulk!

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Namor doesn't really need water to win.

    He was around at the same time as Golden Age Superman, and has done just as much crazy shit. Whether or not you want to take all of that as canon, though, is another story.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Hulk can throw those huge ass trees
    Or monsters from Monster Island.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited November 2006
    Hulk also can jump really damn high.

    And if you don't think the Planet Hulk version can, well, you obviously haven't read #100

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  • kdrudykdrudy Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Could Hulk conceivably turn back to Banner and use Baxter Building tech?

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Geebs wrote:
    Hulk also can jump really damn high.

    And if you don't think the Planet Hulk version can, well, you obviously haven't read #100

    Thor and MM can both fly.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited November 2006
    kdrudy wrote:
    Could Hulk conceivably turn back to Banner and use Baxter Building tech?

    He probably could, but he won't.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited November 2006
    Fencingsax wrote:
    Geebs wrote:
    Hulk also can jump really damn high.

    And if you don't think the Planet Hulk version can, well, you obviously haven't read #100

    Thor and MM can both fly.

    Yes, I know. But I'm just saying that just because Hulk can't fly doesn't mean he doesn't have any range at all.

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  • NinjaSquirrelNinjaSquirrel Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Geebs wrote:
    Fencingsax wrote:
    Geebs wrote:
    Hulk also can jump really damn high.

    And if you don't think the Planet Hulk version can, well, you obviously haven't read #100

    Thor and MM can both fly.

    Yes, I know. But I'm just saying that just because Hulk can't fly doesn't mean he doesn't have any range at all.

    He has range, but I'm pretty sure the other three would notice a giant green mass flying at them and...you know...get out of the way.

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  • kdrudykdrudy Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Geebs wrote:
    kdrudy wrote:
    Could Hulk conceivably turn back to Banner and use Baxter Building tech?

    He probably could, but he won't.

    That's a fair point, Gladiator Hulk would be rational enough to see the benefit in it if he were super outclassed I believe, but he isn't THAT outclassed in this match. Still sadly MM's versatility will be Hulk's downfall.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited November 2006
    Geebs wrote:
    Fencingsax wrote:
    Geebs wrote:
    Hulk also can jump really damn high.

    And if you don't think the Planet Hulk version can, well, you obviously haven't read #100

    Thor and MM can both fly.

    Yes, I know. But I'm just saying that just because Hulk can't fly doesn't mean he doesn't have any range at all.

    He has range, but I'm pretty sure the other three would notice a giant green mass flying at them and...you know...get out of the way.

    Not if they're busy getting wailed on.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Geebs wrote:
    Geebs wrote:
    Fencingsax wrote:
    Geebs wrote:
    Hulk also can jump really damn high.

    And if you don't think the Planet Hulk version can, well, you obviously haven't read #100

    Thor and MM can both fly.

    Yes, I know. But I'm just saying that just because Hulk can't fly doesn't mean he doesn't have any range at all.

    He has range, but I'm pretty sure the other three would notice a giant green mass flying at them and...you know...get out of the way.

    Not if they're busy getting wailed on.

    I think that anyone who say the Hulk jumping at them, Screaming "HULK SMASH" (or "Grundy Crush!", Why is Grundy not in this, anyways? I would've liked to see Grundy vs Hulk) would have enough sense to stop whatever the fuck they are doing and get out of the fucking way.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited November 2006
    I'd like to think that this version is smart enough not to scream as he's trying to attack someone who isn't paying attention.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Geebs wrote:
    I'd like to think that this version is smart enough not to scream as he's trying to attack someone who isn't paying attention.

    But... It's Hulk! It's like Hulk not being Green! (Yes, I know. That's the joke)

    Also, I'm really pondering this Grundy issue.

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  • HrakaHraka Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    it doesnt really matter if MM and thor can fly out of range of hulk. They will still have to deal with him when they are done with eachother. But if they do just fly around and leave the hulk alone I think the hulk will beat namor and then will advance along with whoever wins between thor and mm

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Hraka wrote:
    it doesnt really matter if MM and thor can fly out of range of hulk. They will still have to deal with him when they are done with eachother. But if they do just fly around and leave the hulk alone I think the hulk will beat namor and then will advance along with whoever wins between thor and mm
    Namor can fly too, you know.

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  • TerrorbyteTerrorbyte __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2006
    J'onn mind-controls Namor into keeping Thor busy while he shape-shifts into a bloody and beaten Betty. He convinces Hulk that Thor, "tried to have his way with her". Enraged, Hulk rips Thor's wang off and stuffs it down his throat. J'onn then tosses Hulk into space and forces Namor to stick his head up his butt, suffocating him to death.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Terrorbyte wrote:
    J'onn mind-controls Namor into keeping Thor busy while he shape-shifts into a bloody and beaten Betty. He convinces Hulk that Thor, "tried to have his way with her". Enraged, Hulk rips Thor's wang off and stuffs it down his throat. J'onn then tosses Hulk into space and forces Namor to stick his head up his butt, suffocating him to death.

    Namor's head is already up his ass. He'd be used to it.

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    We definitely need to incorporate sodomy into more of these fights.

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  • NinjaSquirrelNinjaSquirrel Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I concur. Anyone who can make another contestant sodomize himself gets an instant pass.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Terrorbyte wrote:
    J'onn mind-controls Namor into keeping Thor busy while he shape-shifts into a bloody and beaten Betty. He convinces Hulk that Thor, "tried to have his way with her". Enraged, Hulk rips Thor's wang off and stuffs it down his throat. J'onn then tosses Hulk into space and forces Namor to stick his head up his butt, suffocating him to death.

    This Hulk doesn't give a shit about Betty.

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  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Rating: AWESOME YESRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Thor and MM. Both are too powerful and versatile for Hulk.

    You had best believe that Martian Manhunter is powerful enough to take down Hulk or Namor. And he's pretty much on equal grounds with Thor.

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  • Adaemus1sfAdaemus1sf Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Manhunter would probably be able to beat any of these three one-on-one, and his intangibility means that there is literally nothing Namor or Hulk can do to him if he doesn't want them to. If Hulk jumps up at the flyers, Namor can move, J'onn can turn intangible, and Thor can make a portal to transport him to the realm of the Ice Giants. Namor's likely to go out first, though, I think. He's so totally outclassed here, but not the sort to acknowledge it, so he's gonna charge J'onn or Thor and get his ass handed to him, while whoever he doesn't charge at deals with the Hulk in whatever non-physical way seems best to them.
    Can Thor affect an intangible Manhunter? He's got some sort of crazy magic/energy blasts from Mjolnir, but I don't know if he can really do anything to someone intangible.

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Nevermind. :oops:

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    robosagogo wrote:
    Going to the realm of the Ice Giants would be a leaving the fight DQ, I think.

    The him refers to Hulk, I think. Although I would love to watch Hulk wail on some giants.

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  • JordynJordyn Really, Commander? Probing Uranus. Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    J'onn and Thor.

    J'onn is too much of a badass.

    Too much.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Jordyn wrote:
    J'onn and Thor.

    J'onn is too much of a badass.

    Too much.

    Agreed. Thor and MM both have a wide variety of powers on top of really high-level strength. Neither of them may be able to knock Hulk out, but I think it's pretty damn likely that he'll be leaving the arena in one way or another.

    And if Hulk can't win, Namor sure can't.

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  • TerrorbyteTerrorbyte __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2006
    DarkPrimus wrote:
    Terrorbyte wrote:
    J'onn mind-controls Namor into keeping Thor busy while he shape-shifts into a bloody and beaten Betty. He convinces Hulk that Thor, "tried to have his way with her". Enraged, Hulk rips Thor's wang off and stuffs it down his throat. J'onn then tosses Hulk into space and forces Namor to stick his head up his butt, suffocating him to death.

    This Hulk doesn't give a shit about Betty.

    Wait, what?
    Namor's head is already up his ass. He'd be used to it.

    HIYO!

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Terrorbyte wrote:
    DarkPrimus wrote:
    Terrorbyte wrote:
    J'onn mind-controls Namor into keeping Thor busy while he shape-shifts into a bloody and beaten Betty. He convinces Hulk that Thor, "tried to have his way with her". Enraged, Hulk rips Thor's wang off and stuffs it down his throat. J'onn then tosses Hulk into space and forces Namor to stick his head up his butt, suffocating him to death.

    This Hulk doesn't give a shit about Betty.

    Wait, what?

    Simply put, Planet Hulk Hulk is not Hulk with Banner's personality. The Hulk is a seperate persona. He and Banner have mental battle in the Planet Hulk story in Giant-Size Hulk #1 that was released a couple months back.

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  • TerrorbyteTerrorbyte __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2006
    DarkPrimus wrote:
    Simply put, Planet Hulk Hulk is not Hulk with Banner's personality. The Hulk is a seperate persona. He and Banner have mental battle in the Planet Hulk story in Giant-Size Hulk #1 that was released a couple months back.

    Oh, I got that confused with The End story. Still, are you telling me that Hulk right now wouldn't give a shit if Betty popped up right in front of him? I thought the Hulk persona was an extension of the core Bruce Banner personality - just more savage and emotional and junk. I just can't imagine Gladiator Hulk being all, "Tough luck, toots."

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Terrorbyte wrote:
    DarkPrimus wrote:
    Simply put, Planet Hulk Hulk is not Hulk with Banner's personality. The Hulk is a seperate persona. He and Banner have mental battle in the Planet Hulk story in Giant-Size Hulk #1 that was released a couple months back.

    Oh, I got that confused with The End story.

    Well, they had an argument there too.
    Still, are you telling me that Hulk right now wouldn't give a shit if Betty popped up right in front of him? I thought the Hulk persona was an extension of the core Bruce Banner personality - just more savage and emotional and junk. I just can't imagine Gladiator Hulk being all, "Tough luck, toots."

    He's smart enough that he'd know something wasn't kosher.

    ...Isn't she dead?

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