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Wii Update 3.4. Faster SD-card access, automatic updates, blocks Homebrew
elkatas
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This is direct copy of message on the VC-thread.
Good and bad news. New Wii update (3.4) is out, or should be out in your region pretty soon. Good news is that it improves SD-card speed dramatically on better brands. Some reports suggest that 90 blocks file could be copied into system in less than three seconds*. In addition it adds support for USB keyboards on Mii Channel. And then the bad news. New update blocks installing homebrew completely, and in the new system terms, Nintendo claims right to update system without further notification.
* Meaning that even biggest WiiWare game would take 11 seconds or so to copy.
EDIT: It is now confirmed that new patch doesn't affect already installed Homebrew channels.
Good and bad news. New Wii update (3.4) is out, or should be out in your region pretty soon. Good news is that it improves SD-card speed dramatically on better brands. Some reports suggest that 90 blocks file could be copied into system in less than three seconds*. In addition it adds support for USB keyboards on Mii Channel. And then the bad news. New update blocks installing homebrew completely, and in the new system terms, Nintendo claims right to update system without further notification.
* Meaning that even biggest WiiWare game would take 11 seconds or so to copy.
EDIT: It is now confirmed that new patch doesn't affect already installed Homebrew channels.
Hypnotically inclined.
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Pretty scary stuff. I never even really got around to installing the Homebrew Channel, either. (By the way, did you see the part where the Homebrew Channel voids your warranty?)
It's typical legal lingo. In legal terms, you have never owned any of the computer / console software you have purchased, you have only leased it, and paid for media on which it has been stored. It's creator's property.
On the other, MII CHANNEL KEYBOARD SUPPORT!!! :!!::!!::!!::!!::!::!::!::!:
...just kidding, I'm too chicken to update right away. Do you think they're going to royally screw anyone over who has messed with the Twilight Hack? The only traces of it on my system (that I'm aware of, at least) are the save file and the logs with Twilight Princess scattered all over. I didn't actually install the Homebrew Channel (or install anything).
Now if only they would support SDHC, the Homebrew Channel has taught us that it's just a software limitation rather than hardware.
Who needs three guesses to figure out what 3.5 will do?
I guess this also means the wavedashing + non-tripping Brawl is going to be a small niche.
I WILL NOT BE DOING 3DS FOR NWC THREAD. SOMEONE ELSE WILL HAVE TO TAKE OVER.
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Mario Kart Wii: 3136-6982-0286 Tetris Party: 2364 1569 4310
Guitar Hero: Metallica: 1032 7229 7191
TATSUNOKO VS CAPCOM: 1935-2070-9123
Nintendo DS:
Worms: Open Warfare 2: 1418-7870-1606 Space Bust-a-Move: 017398 403043
Scribblenauts: 1290-7509-5558
BTP, such agreements are widespread if you bother to read them. people often agree to agreements where the service provider could delete your whole hard drive and not be considered responsible!
I read the agreement when I started doing stuff with the Wii Shop Channel. I knew that some stuff sucked, but figured Nintendo needed to cover their ass whenever a time comes where they actually need to cover their ass. That, plus the messages Nintendo sends to our Wii-mail alerting us of updates, made me think "they could, but they probably won't" about what I said before.
I hope that's still the case.
I WILL NOT BE DOING 3DS FOR NWC THREAD. SOMEONE ELSE WILL HAVE TO TAKE OVER.
Spoiler contains Friend Codes. Won't you be my friend?
More Friend Codes!
Mario Kart Wii: 3136-6982-0286 Tetris Party: 2364 1569 4310
Guitar Hero: Metallica: 1032 7229 7191
TATSUNOKO VS CAPCOM: 1935-2070-9123
Nintendo DS:
Worms: Open Warfare 2: 1418-7870-1606 Space Bust-a-Move: 017398 403043
Scribblenauts: 1290-7509-5558
Yeah, sure. Let's just leave alone Channel that already supports booting pirated copies. What a brilliant idea. :P
I'm more concerned with being able to save replays over 3 minutes long than anything else. No tripping is also great but losing that wouldn't be the end of the world.
So, here's my question: Is the "worst case scenario" just that the Homebrew Channel gets removed, or could anything else bad happen to the Wii? Depending on risks, I may at least advise my friends to remove the Homebrew Channel, whether or not I do myself.
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They won't, just so you know, because it enables piracy. And I kind of hate them for it. I use homebrew because I am a computer science student and programming is my hobby, and I want to program for my Wii. What is wrong with that? Nothing. Microsoft understands this. :x
You can now (via homebrew) get all the advantages of this update without the anti-homebrew measures, although it's probably better to hold off for something more robust.
There haven't been many updates at all for the Wii.
Also, I'm kind of glad they are shutting down some of the homebrew to prevent piracy. I have a friend who put the Homebrew channel on his Wii, ONLY to pirate games. He has like 50 ISOs on his computer that he will burn to a disk to play them.
Pretty sure everything there is within the forum rules/law.
This is why I'm confused by people who get pissed at Nintendo for this.
They're supposed to ignore the huge percentage of people who use wii hacking for pirating software because there are a few people who use it for legitimate homebrew things only? Really?
I mean, what did you guys expect? We all know why this is happening.
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Yeah, but what games are coming out soon?
(This is completely aside from the fact that this "protection" is going to get thoroughly broken inside of a week.)
I swear my PS3 needs an update everytime I turn it on.
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At least the HBC isn't affected, but I'm not updating. If anything, Nintendo is the one that is going to be the one affected by this, since I can't access the Wii Shop Channel because of that.
Not that there are any games that I want to get on the VC or WiiWare right now, though. I'm sure there will be in the future.
It's a nice idea, but such specificity just (a) isn't worth their effort and (b) only increases the chances of an easy work around.
Apparently this is there solution:
To download directly to SD Cards. Nothing was ever said about loading from.
<from the VC and Wiiware topic>
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SUPPOSEDLY you'll be able to access games on your SD card directly from the Wii Menu, though. A hunk of space on the Wii's internal memory will be set aside for temporarily loading games you wish to play that are on an SD card.
Which is good enough for me, so long as the SD transfer rate is nice and fast.
How about just letting us play region-free games then?
What was it that Kaplan said in that interview? "Why would you want to import games anyway, they'd be in japanese!"
But so for you guys who already installed the homebrew channel, what have they now disabled for you? I keep meaning to install it, but I don't really have a hard-on for any particular imports at the moment.
Software piracy is illegal in and of itself. This whole thing is not fair to people who use homebrew for legitimate purposes to run software on hardware they own.
Of course, when you think about Nintendo's history (remember, they stuck with cartridges for so long for similar reasons) none of this is at all surprising. The thing that really sucks now is they can:
1) Send an update to your Wii without telling you
2) Said update can check your Wii for homebrew software
3) If any homebrew is detected, your online account for the shop and whatnot is shutdown and content you bought is locked-out, and your Wii can no longer use WFC
What a dumb business decision that would be.
"Steal some games we don't sell, will you? Well, now you can't send us any money!"
I use a MicroSD card in a SD adapter. I wonder if that'll hamper it any.
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If you have the homebrew channel installed now, I am pretty sure there is a workaround for everything else.
They have prevented "WAD installation", which could be used for several things, like installing custom made channels. The most common use seems to be piracy of Wiiware/VC games. However, it looks like it is pretty simple to find a workaround for all of these. I've not updated to 3.4 myself, so I am not 100% certain on all this.
As is stands, there are (at least) 3 things that Nintendo is attempting to stop with firmware updates:
Wiiware/VC piracy
Effectively these are the same, the procedure for users doing them is basically the same, and the loss of revenue is basically the same.
To pirate Wiiware/VC games requires users to have a homebrew enabled console (basically have the homebrew channel installed), then they just download a wad for whatever game they want from the internet, and install it from the SD card to the Wii console with a piece of homebrew software.
This new firmware attempts to prevent this by A) Blocking the install of the homebrew channel (but it will not effect existing installs).
Region Free Gaming
This is basically out of the bag now. I've not used it yet (not imported any games yet), but anyone with the homebrew channel installed can pretty easily play imported titles.
The only potential importers that this update harms are those yet to install the homebrew channel.
Retail Wii games piracy
It is possible, through the homebrew channel, to get homebrew software that allows you to play DVDr backup games. Users could use this to download disc images off the internet, and pirate games without any hardware modification.
The only potential pirates that this update harms are those yet to install the homebrew channel.
Homebrew
I am pretty sure Nintendo is terrified of legitimate homebrew, and would love to outright prevent it.
The only potential homebrew users that this update harms are those yet to install the homebrew channel.
All of this will be moot when the twilight hack, or another alternative is updated to get around this update. I give it a week tops.